Bill Belichick: It was a privilege to coach “ultimate competitor” Julian Edelman

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Julian Edelman officially announced he’s retiring as a Patriot, and shortly after head coach Bill Belichick and team owner Robert Kraft issued statements praising the wide receiver’s accomplishments.

“By any measure of what constitutes an elite NFL career — wins, championships, production — Julian has it all,” Belichick said. “Few players can match Julian’s achievements, period, but considering his professional trajectory and longevity, the group is even more select. It is historic. This is a tribute to his legendary competitiveness, mental and physical toughness and will to excel. Day in and day out, Julian was always the same: all out. Then, in the biggest games and moments, with championships at stake, he reached even greater heights and delivered some of his best, most thrilling performances.

“For all Julian did for our team, what I may appreciate the most is he was the quintessential throwback player. He could, and did, do everything – catch, run, throw, block, return, cover and tackle – all with an edge and attitude that would not allow him to fail under any circumstance. Julian Edelman is the ultimate competitor and it was a privilege to coach him.”

Edelman retires as a three-time Super Bowl champion and the MVP of Super Bowl LIII. He also made a game-saving, diving catch in the Patriots’ comeback victory over the Falcons in Super Bowl LI, and caught the game-winning touchdown when New England defeated Seattle in Super Bowl XLIX.

“Julian Edelman is one of the great success stories in our franchise’s history,” Kraft said. “There aren’t many players who earn an NFL roster spot at a position they have never played before. Julian not only did that as a seventh-round draft selection, but he is retiring with the second-most career receptions in franchise history and as a three-time Super Bowl Champion, including his last as Super Bowl MVP. No one was more committed to his craft and honing his skills than Jules. His explosiveness off the line, quickness in his cuts and elusiveness after the catch made him one of the hardest players to defend throughout his career. His clutch catches in our biggest games and overall toughness made him a fan favorite. Over the past 12 years, I have enjoyed watching him grow as a player, as a person and as a father. In 2019, I had the privilege of traveling to Israel with Julian, which might be the only place where he is more popular than here in New England.”

60 responses to “Bill Belichick: It was a privilege to coach “ultimate competitor” Julian Edelman

  1. Super bowl 49…misses a pass that eventually went for a score to amendola. Tommy and bill trusted Jules..threw the same route again and he caught the game winning touchdown.

    Was a DEFENSIVE BACK so he could stay on the team.

    Still has a sore shoulder from that throw against the ravens

    Caught one of the top 3 greatest grabs (tyree/harris) in NFL history

    Just an all around STUD. A true patriot. Had various roles to ensure he could compete. When I think of #11, I’ll always think of Edelman and then Bledsoe..that’s how big he was. Thanks for the memories Jules!

  2. He had so many crazy good games & catches against the Bills. Quite a few during the “drought” where the Bills probably would have pulled out a close win if not for his effort.

    He was one of those guys who just refused to lose.

    He leaves behind a whole new Patriots team; there are some players still remaining from the last SB of course, but the “heart & soul” guys are all gone now.

    Best of luck to him in retirement, and good health.

  3. Edelman was not very big, strong, fast or other wise gifted with great abilities but he worked hard and never gave up. A college QB, he did anything he could, played any position offered and did his best. Emerging a a very good slot reciever, a position where recievers get hit, not by DBs, but by much bigger LBs, he showed his toughness and grit. He was everything a good possession reciever should be. And the kind of selfless player every team needs. A fine career indeed.

  4. Wow. I still cannot unsee that catch against the Falcons. The sheer determination to get the reception cleanly and you see the strength and determination to keep it off the ground. He lost a season because his competitive fire wasn’t even dimmed in the preseason and he tore his ACL.

    What a ride to be able to see him play in New England. Blessings on you, Julian. I pray that your next chapter is even more successful than this was.

  5. Great player. A true champion. Allegedly, he was offered to return to the Pat’s at the minimum. He declined. $15/hr wasn’t enough. See you in Tampa, Julian!

  6. Kudos to a great football player, and someone who defined the Patriots at their best. All good health and blessings to you in retirement, sir!

  7. No Patriot fan here but how could you not admire this guy, I used to think Welker wrote the book on being a slot receiver but Edelman comes in and raises the bar even higher, tough as nails and a pro through and through, that catch against the Falcon’s totally summed up his career and what he was about..
    Good luck in your future endeavors and in my book your a Hall of Famer

  8. True Clutch player … wont make the HOF but one of the toughest players, ever.
    Rehab the knee, then join the Bucs for the 2021/22 postseason …

  9. To those of you that have been knocking Belichick as GM, Edelman is a case in rebuttal. His summation of Julien’s career is an indication of what Belichick values in a player and found and developed in Edelman.

    A late 7th round pick that Belichick target as both a special teams talent and a developmental project at receiver, a position Edelman had never played. Belichick praised Edelman early but never just handed him the slot receiver position, despite warning Welker Edelman could turn him into another Wally Pipp.

    Edelman was relentless in moving the chains. He could get deep. Despite his size he fought for the ball and blocked. His TD pass to Amendola (along with some creative play-calling by Bill and post game comments by Brady) in a divisional win over the Ravens led to the Ravens and Colts conspiring to push Deflategate because losing hurts.

    Calipari may have trademarked “Refuse To Lose” but it was the Patriots and guys like Edelman and Brady (7th and 6th round draft choices) that lived that motto.

  10. For those that bash Bill Belichick the GM (silly, yes), they must praise Belichick the GM for this one. I doubt anyone else had the foresight and vision to take the Kent St. QB in round 7 and transform him into the legendary slot receiver he became.

    I know, it helps when Tom Brady is threading passes to you, but Edelman improved every year and was as hard-nosed as they come. The guy was a winner and played big on the biggest stage.

  11. Edelman improved every year

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    He didn’t, until middle of 2013 when Gronk was injured and out.

    The poster who claimed Belichick developed him is saying that Belichick developed Edelman for 2 years but not used him as a receiver, even in playoff.

  12. Brady will be retiring the same way- Due to injury, and I’m saying it happens this year. Bank on it

  13. turkeycreekjackjohnson says:
    April 12, 2021 at 7:56 pm
    For those that bash Bill Belichick the GM (silly, yes), they must praise Belichick the GM for this one. I doubt anyone else had the foresight and vision to take the Kent St. QB in round 7 and transform him into the legendary slot receiver he became.

    I know, it helps when Tom Brady is threading passes to you, but Edelman improved every year and was as hard-nosed as they come. The guy was a winner and played big on the biggest stage.

    31 4 Rate This

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    Cue the morons who will claim Edelman made BBs career.

    lmao

    The stupidity of all thinga stupid.

  14. tigerlilac says:
    April 12, 2021 at 7:52 pm
    To those of you that have been knocking Belichick as GM, Edelman is a case in rebuttal.
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    No its not. If Bill or anyone else knew how good Edelman would be, he would have been drafted in the first or second round. Without a doubt Edelman’s career bolster’s Bill’s legacy as a coach, but not a GM.

  15. A simple rule about Belichick: when he’s talking about players he respects, he’s as eloquent as coaches can get.

  16. WARRIOR. It’s a word used to summarize players, but few measure up to the true meaning of the word. JE will always be rembered as a player and a PAT.

  17. Always enjoyed watching him – a combo of quickness, strong route running, good hands and a fun loving personality. Hope his knees aren’t all screwed up long term.

  18. The poster who claimed Belichick developed him is saying that Belichick developed Edelman for 2 years but not used him as a receiver, even in playoff.
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    Considering that for his first year plus, the depth chart in front of him at WR included a couple of guys named Moss and Welker…and then they drafted Gronk and Hernandez, exactly how much PT did you think a 7th round pick was going to get???

  19. By his own admission, Edelman credits Brady working with him in the off-season for bringing his game to another level. He was a helluva player.

  20. icouldcareless says:
    April 12, 2021 at 9:10 pm
    Brady will be retiring the same way- Due to injury, and I’m saying it happens this year. Bank on it

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    Anyone that likes their own money would be wise not to do that, but, thanks for the tip?

  21. evildave,

    Did you check how many yards he had in 2010 and 2011? 86 in his 2nd season and 34 in his 3rd season. Does it sound that Pats coaches were developing him as a WR?

    What happened to Edelman since 2013 is typical “next one step up” while Belichick had no clue who the next one would be, just TRIAL AND ERROR, let Brady work his ass off to figure out who the next one would be, and Belichick shamelessly took all the credits.

    Check what Belichick did to Cam in 2020, another typical “next one step up’, which went nowhere.

  22. It would be hard to find anyone who worked harder than Julian Edelman. He made himself into one of the greatest ,toughest slot receivers to play the game. It won’t be the same without him. I wish him all the best in life.

  23. By his own admission, Edelman credits Brady working with him in the off-season for bringing his game to another level.

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    But that doesn’t prove that Belichick was not involved in developing him.

    In this case, Belichick’s believers will give all the credits to Belichick.

    They will do anything possible, even pulling underwear up to their noses, to prove their believe “smells good”.

  24. Retires with a perfect 158.3 passer rating, 61 points higher than Brady’s career with New England.

    Edelman > Tampa Bay Tommy

  25. William Lee says:
    April 13, 2021 at 9:08 am
    By his own admission, Edelman credits Brady working with him in the off-season for bringing his game to another level.

    ———————————

    But that doesn’t prove that Belichick was not involved in developing him.

    In this case, Belichick’s believers will give all the credits to Belichick.
    ————–
    Kinda like Tampa Bay Tommy lovers crediting Brady for Malcolm Butler’s Super Bowl interception?

    Brady’s contributions with the Bucs this year were also very overstated. Switch the Bucs defense with the Patriots defense in 2020 and the Bucs don’t get out of the first round. If they even make the playoffs at all.

  26. An argument has already started about whether Edeleman is Hall Of Fame worthy. The easiest way I always disagree with people who say the Hall Of Fame is ONLY for the very best players who ever played is two words: Joe Namath.
    Look at Joe Namath’s career statistics and then explain to me how he is in the Hall Of Fame!!!
    Namath threw 173 TDs and 220 interceptions in his career!!His career completion percentage was just 50.1%!
    Joe Namath is in the Hall Of Fame for one reason — his Jets were the first AFC team to win a Super Bowl. But — he didn’t even throw a single TD pass in that game and didn’t even throw a single pass in the 4th quarter of that game!!
    They gave him the MVP of that game, but it should have gone to RB Matt Snell and the Jets defense! It was a joke then and it’s a joke now.
    Namath led the league in passing yards three times (1966, 1967, and 1972) in his career, while throwing more interceptions (76) than touchdowns (64) in those seasons combined.
    He also only threw for a career total of 27,663 passing yards, averaging just over 2,100 yards a season and led the league in interceptions four times during his career—1966 (27), 1967 (28), 1974 (22), and 1975 (28).
    In the five years he made the Pro Bowl, Namath recorded a total of 98 interceptions.
    If Joe Namath belongs in the Hall Of Fame, then just about anybody who ever played belongs in the Hall Of Fame.
    So there’s my reason why I say, heck yeah, put Edelman in, too! He certainly did more in his career than Joe Namath did in his!!

  27. mikeyb says:
    April 13, 2021 at 9:42 am
    An argument has already started about whether Edeleman is Hall Of Fame worthy. The easiest way I always disagree with people who say the Hall Of Fame is ONLY for the very best players who ever played is two words: Joe Namath.
    Look at Joe Namath’s career statistics and then explain to me how he is in the Hall Of Fame!!!
    Namath threw 173 TDs and 220 interceptions in his career!!His career completion percentage was just 50.1%!
    ——
    Stats are from a totally different era but that goes without saying.

    Namath is also remembered by all football fans over 50 years after that Super Bowl guarantee. Will Edelman? In NE sure, but outside of NE? Dunno. Probably not?

    Doubt he gets in anytime soon if at all.

  28. GoodellMustGo says:
    April 13, 2021 at 9:17 am
    William Lee says:
    April 13, 2021 at 9:08 am
    By his own admission, Edelman credits Brady working with him in the off-season for bringing his game to another level.

    ———————————

    But that doesn’t prove that Belichick was not involved in developing him.

    In this case, Belichick’s believers will give all the credits to Belichick.
    ————–
    Kinda like Tampa Bay Tommy lovers crediting Brady for Malcolm Butler’s Super Bowl interception?

    Brady’s contributions with the Bucs this year were also very overstated. Switch the Bucs defense with the Patriots defense in 2020 and the Bucs don’t get out of the first round. If they even make the playoffs at all.

    6 2 Rate This

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    He has a disorder, man. He is a grown adult with Brady posters all over his basement walls.

  29. stubborndata says:
    April 12, 2021 at 10:04 pm
    Are we just gonna ignore the PeD use??? For shame off. He is no role model

    5 80 Rate This

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    the media ignored it with Peyton Manning’s rehab.

    Using it to rehab is not really “use”. It’s an aid to rehab faster and should be allowed and monitored by nfl rehab trainers since everyone used it, certainly pre 2014 when they started the testing for it.

    Your move.

  30. Kinda like Tampa Bay Tommy lovers crediting Brady for Malcolm Butler’s Super Bowl interception?

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    No, it is that Belichick doesn’t deserve the credit.

    First, without Brady’s 28 points, Seahawks would have won with a FG, there would be no throw and no INT

    Second, Seahawks offense was not top 3 or anywhere near being scary, lot of defenses would have had no problem limiting it to 24 points or less.

    Remember how bad Belichick defense was against Ravens? remember how his defense allowed a quick TD before half time? So it is ridiculous to give credits to Belichick for the SB run.

  31. First, without Brady’s 28 points, Seahawks would have won with a FG, there would be no throw and no INT
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    While I will always give credit to players over coaches, Brady had a pretty meh first half and a couple of picks IIRC. Same with the Falcons SB. A comeback wouldn’t have been necessary if Brady played better in the first half and didn’t throw that pick 6.

    Wasn’t as awful as he was in the two Giants games though. That was bad. I wonder if Eli will give him a shout out in his induction thanking him for the rings. He should. 🙂 I think it would be well deserved especially when Brady arrogantly scoffed at the Giants holding them to 17 points… and that was just before they actually held them to 14.

  32. mikeyb says:
    April 13, 2021 at 9:42 am
    An argument has already started about whether Edeleman is Hall Of Fame worthy. The easiest way I always disagree with people who say the Hall Of Fame is ONLY for the very best players who ever played is two words: Joe Namath.
    Look at Joe Namath’s career statistics and then explain to me how he is in the Hall Of Fame!!!
    Namath threw 173 TDs and 220 interceptions in his career!!His career completion percentage was just 50.1%!
    Joe Namath is in the Hall Of Fame for one reason — his Jets were the first AFC team to win a Super Bowl. But — he didn’t even throw a single TD pass in that game and didn’t even throw a single pass in the 4th quarter of that game!!
    They gave him the MVP of that game, but it should have gone to RB Matt Snell and the Jets defense! It was a joke then and it’s a joke now.
    Namath led the league in passing yards three times (1966, 1967, and 1972) in his career, while throwing more interceptions (76) than touchdowns (64) in those seasons combined.
    He also only threw for a career total of 27,663 passing yards, averaging just over 2,100 yards a season and led the league in interceptions four times during his career—1966 (27), 1967 (28), 1974 (22), and 1975 (28).
    In the five years he made the Pro Bowl, Namath recorded a total of 98 interceptions.
    If Joe Namath belongs in the Hall Of Fame, then just about anybody who ever played belongs in the Hall Of Fame.
    So there’s my reason why I say, heck yeah, put Edelman in, too! He certainly did more in his career than Joe Namath did in his!!

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    For those reading this who did not have the benefit of watching Namath play, in person, in his prime, a few items to consider aside from the obvious (the times and rules were different).

    – It took 14 years, and a change to a 16 game schedule, for Namath’s single season passing record of 4,007 yards, set in 1967, to be broken
    – re the Super Bowl – Namath called his own plays throughout his career. He didn’t see the need to call a pass play in the 4th quarter with his team leading 13-0, then 16-0
    – Namath, with two damaged knees butchered by the primitive surgical techniques of the time, played in constant pain. His teammates, and his opponents, acknowledged his toughness in an especially brutal era (for example, receivers could be ‘clotheslined’ coming over the middle without penalty). Namath had his jaw broken by Ben Davidson of the Raiders in a game in 1967, and not only finished the game and played the rest of the season, but even refused to acknowledge it, saying to the press afterwards that he “bit into a bad steak” in his pregame meal.
    -Namath had the undying respect of his AFL colleagues for bringing the AFL to respectability with his Super Bowl win over the Colts. The week after the game was the AFL All-Star game (think Pro Bowl for the AFL), and every player personally thanked Namath for what he did for the AFL.
    -In 1972, Namath outdueled John Unitas in perhaps his last great game, throwing for 496 yards and 6 touchdowns (on only 15 receptions) against the Colts. In the 49 years since, that combination of yards and TDs in a single game has been surpassed only twice.
    – That Super Bowl III win is seen as the game that validated the decision to merge the two leagues, a decision that was still in doubt two years after the merger of the leagues was agreed to in 1966. SB III was a historical and culturallandmark that will never be forgotten, and mostly because of Namath

  33. He has a disorder, man. He is a grown adult with Brady posters all over his basement walls.

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    TD6,

    You obviously haven’t learned.

    All of these posts are for future, to show how stupid Belichick’s believers are.

  34. A comeback wouldn’t have been necessary if Brady played better in the first half and didn’t throw that pick 6.

    —————————–

    Did Mahomes have “off” day in playoff? Did Mahomes have “off” day in playoff? Did Brees have “off” day in playoff? Winning SB is not about how great a QB is when he can do what he loves to do, it is how he plays when he is not that good.

    That is why Rodgers and Brees couldn’t make back to SB, because against elite teams in playoff, every QB will have “off” day, and how a QB plays in his “off” day is the key on whether a QB can win SB or not.

    So please don’t ask “if Brady is God”.

  35. The ultimate stereotype of a lunch pail guy who is sneaky athletic, scrappy with high motor, gym rat, had all the intangibles, and got the most out of his abilities. What a heck of a career he had

  36. William Lee says:
    April 13, 2021 at 8:33 am
    evildave,

    Did you check how many yards he had in 2010 and 2011? 86 in his 2nd season and 34 in his 3rd season. Does it sound that Pats coaches were developing him as a WR?
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    Did you see who else was on the roster? Moss and Welker at WR and then Gronk and Hernandez at TE. Oh and by the way, when Welker went down with an ACL it was Edelman who took his place. So yes, he was developing as a WR, but again with one and possibly two HOF receivers in front of him and one HOF TE on the same roster, he wasn’t going to get many balls thrown his way. Ever.

  37. touchback6 says:
    April 13, 2021 at 10:37 am
    GoodellMustGo says:
    April 13, 2021 at 9:17 am
    William Lee says:
    April 13, 2021 at 9:08 am
    By his own admission, Edelman credits Brady working with him in the off-season for bringing his game to another level.

    ———————————

    But that doesn’t prove that Belichick was not involved in developing him.

    In this case, Belichick’s believers will give all the credits to Belichick.
    ————–
    Kinda like Tampa Bay Tommy lovers crediting Brady for Malcolm Butler’s Super Bowl interception?

    Brady’s contributions with the Bucs this year were also very overstated. Switch the Bucs defense with the Patriots defense in 2020 and the Bucs don’t get out of the first round. If they even make the playoffs at all.

    6 2 Rate This

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    He has a disorder, man. He is a grown adult with Brady posters all over his basement walls.

    —–

    A grown man honors his commitments and lives up to the terms of his agreements. Like when a grown man loses a bet, he lives with the results and doesn’t restate the terms of the bet to let himself off the hook.

  38. For those reading this who did not have the benefit of watching Namath play, in person, in his prime, a few items to consider aside from the obvious (the times and rules were different).

    – It took 14 years, and a change to a 16 game schedule, for Namath’s single season passing record of 4,007 yards, set in 1967, to be broken
    – re the Super Bowl – Namath called his own plays throughout his career. He didn’t see the need to call a pass play in the 4th quarter with his team leading 13-0, then 16-0
    – Namath, with two damaged knees butchered by the primitive surgical techniques of the time, played in constant pain. His teammates, and his opponents, acknowledged his toughness in an especially brutal era (for example, receivers could be ‘clotheslined’ coming over the middle without penalty). Namath had his jaw broken by Ben Davidson of the Raiders in a game in 1967, and not only finished the game and played the rest of the season, but even refused to acknowledge it, saying to the press afterwards that he “bit into a bad steak” in his pregame meal.
    -Namath had the undying respect of his AFL colleagues for bringing the AFL to respectability with his Super Bowl win over the Colts. The week after the game was the AFL All-Star game (think Pro Bowl for the AFL), and every player personally thanked Namath for what he did for the AFL.
    -In 1972, Namath outdueled John Unitas in perhaps his last great game, throwing for 496 yards and 6 touchdowns (on only 15 receptions) against the Colts. In the 49 years since, that combination of yards and TDs in a single game has been surpassed only twice.
    – That Super Bowl III win is seen as the game that validated the decision to merge the two leagues, a decision that was still in doubt two years after the merger of the leagues was agreed to in 1966. SB III was a historical and culturallandmark that will never be forgotten, and mostly because of Namath

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    You didn’t say one thing which disputes anything I said about Namath. Everyone called their own plays when he played, so that means nothing. The same thing with playing injured — it means nothing toward being elected to the Hall Of Fame. As far as the Super Bowl win — he didn’t do much of anything to win that game. The Jets defense and Matt Snell and Emerson Boozer won that game for the Jets.
    Namath is in the Hall Of Fame because he played in NY and had the Broadway Joe image, and he happened to boast a guarantee that his jets would beat the Colts. Had he played his career in Detroit or some place like that, there’s no way he would be in the Hall Of Fame.
    As for out-dueling Johnny Unitas in 1972, Unitas was a mere shell of what he once was by then. Besides, there have been plenty of ordinary QB’s who’ve had great individual games. I’ll give you one. Matt Flynn threw 6 TD passes and 480 yards in a game against the Lions. Should he be in the Hall Of Fame, too?
    Namath does not belong in the Hall Of Fame, based on how he performed in the NFL, period. He does not match up well against guys he played against, and he doesn’t match up well with most guys who are in the Hall Of Fame.
    For example, Daryl Lamonica, the former Oakland Raiders QB had 164 TD’s and 138 interceptions in only 6 full years as a starter. He wasn’t the starter in his first 4 years in the NFL with the Bills and he only played in 12 games total in his last 2 years in the NFL due to injury. So his numbers were actually better than Namath’s.
    It’s ridiculous to say the Hall Of Fame is for only the very best players who ever played and then have someone with Namath’s statistics in it.

  39. 34 in his 3rd season. Does it sound that Pats coaches were developing him as a WR?
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    Did you see who else was on the roster?
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    evildave,

    If 34 yards on 3rd season, you insist that coaches are developing him as receiver? OK.

    BTW, did you ever see him talking to his receivers on sideline, except high 5s?

    Cam Newton came to a new team, tried to learn new system, struggled badly. Did you ever see Belichick giving him any guidance on sideline? He did talk to his defenders on the benches a lot, didn’t he?

  40. William Lee says:
    April 13, 2021 at 1:58 pm
    A comeback wouldn’t have been necessary if Brady played better in the first half and didn’t throw that pick 6.

    —————————–

    Did Mahomes have “off” day in playoff? Did Mahomes have “off” day in playoff? Did Brees have “off” day in playoff? Winning SB is not about how great a QB is when he can do what he loves to do, it is how he plays when he is not that good.

    That is why Rodgers and Brees couldn’t make back to SB, because against elite teams in playoff, every QB will have “off” day, and how a QB plays in his “off” day is the key on whether a QB can win SB or not.

    So please don’t ask “if Brady is God”.

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    Winning is a team accomplishment. Brady has rings when he hasn’t played well, and no rings when he has like in SBLII. It wasn’t Brady that was making Mahomes run horizontally and in circles in that game. The Bucs defense did more to win that that Super Bowl than Brady did.

    If you’re saying Belichick shouldn’t get as much credit as Brady for the Patriots dynasty then I sorta agree. Coaches coach but players actually play the game. Coaches maximize the talent they have. Difficult to argue that the Patriots aren’t a well coached team and the record last year is the ceiling for a team with no passing game and a below average defense no matter who the coach is.

  41. Winning is a team accomplishment.

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    Ya, but would other QB be able to produce top offense with the squad BEFORE 2007? would other QB be able to play 38 minutes against Panthers? would other QB be able to score 28 points against LOB? would other QB be able to take Pats to SB without Gronk? would other QB be able to take Pats over Chiefs in AFCCG with injured Gronk?

    On the other hand, Belichick’s defense was not even good enough to take the team to playoff or to win back to back playoff games.

  42. GoodellMustGo,

    Do you know why you often saw Pats receivers wide open? It is because of the TIME Brady threw the balls, NOT because of the schemes of designs.

    Without Brady, those “easy” routes and “easy” throws are gone.

    Without those “easy” routes and “easy” throws, Belichick has to build the team just like how every other coach does. Even he lands a QB like Rodgers or Peyton, he has to spend tons of resource on offense.

    See the picture? Belichick is back to 2000 season when people thought he was not HC material. Signing some TE and Pats will become top tier team? so laughable, even Rodgers and RW failed on TE experiment. So Belichick’s believers are destined to be laughed at in 2 or 3 years.

  43. evildave,

    If 34 yards on 3rd season, you insist that coaches are developing him as receiver? OK.
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    He was still on the roster and on the depth chart was he not? He was 4th on the WR depth chart behind Welker, Branch, and OchoCinco, and that team had HISTORIC reception output from Gronk and Hernandez at the TE position. If Edelman didn’t show that he could play at WR, he would have been cut since BB doesn’t want a kick/punt returner who can’t play another position.

  44. William Lee says:
    April 13, 2021 at 4:14 pm
    GoodellMustGo,

    Do you know why you often saw Pats receivers wide open? It is because of the TIME Brady threw the balls, NOT because of the schemes of designs.

    Without Brady, those “easy” routes and “easy” throws are gone.

    Without those “easy” routes and “easy” throws, Belichick has to build the team just like how every other coach does. Even he lands a QB like Rodgers or Peyton, he has to spend tons of resource on offense.

    See the picture? Belichick is back to 2000 season when people thought he was not HC material. Signing some TE and Pats will become top tier team? so laughable, even Rodgers and RW failed on TE experiment. So Belichick’s believers are destined to be laughed at in 2 or 3 years.

    —-
    And yet with those “easy” throws Brady still had a sub 90 rating in 2019 with the Patriots, eliminated his own team almost all by himself and if we’re being honest he wasn’t all that in 2018 either.

    They would have missed the playoffs even if he stayed there is no doubt at all about that. And that’s ok, even the GOAT has a best before date.

    Still, I think the Patriots did all right in 2020 with no defense and no passing game.
    That’s coaching.

    We’ll see how the next 2 years turn out when we can finally do an honest assessment of GM and Coach Belichick without Brady this decade – with actual NFL talent on the roster.

  45. evildave,

    He was on the roster for kick return, at which he was very good.

    What makes you think Pats coaches were developing him as receivers? Nothing, it is just that you want to believe it.

    Even some tried to develop him, why do you think it was Belichick? you think he had time on a receiver of less than 100 yards? Not mention he never talked to receivers on sideline. I DON’T EVEN REMEMBER HE AND MCDANIEL TALKING ABOUT OFFENSE ON SIDELINE.

  46. William Lee says:
    April 13, 2021 at 3:33 pm
    Winning is a team accomplishment.

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    Ya, but would other QB be able to produce top offense with the squad BEFORE 2007? would other QB be able to play 38 minutes against Panthers? would other QB be able to score 28 points against LOB? would other QB be able to take Pats to SB without Gronk? would other QB be able to take Pats over Chiefs in AFCCG with injured Gronk?

    On the other hand, Belichick’s defense was not even good enough to take the team to playoff or to win back to back playoff games.

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    I think Brady could have won a couple of games that Cam lost in 2020 but no more than that. 9-7 sounds about right. That wouldn’t have been enough to get in though.

    Brady was kinda terrible in 2019 with no weapons around him and no longer being good enough to carry a team on his back. And that’s ok. Dude is 43 years old.

  47. Brady was kinda terrible in 2019 with no weapons

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    His offense scored 170 points in last 8 games in 2019, that is 340 points in 16 games, with injured and ineffective Edelman.

    That is like around #18 among all 32 offenses. CAN YOU NAME A QB WHO WOULD HAVE DONE BETTER? What is your expectation?

  48. Funny how a salute to Edelman turned into a Brady or Namath debate

    you people should have been politicians

  49. is offense scored 170 points in last 8 games in 2019, that is 340 points in 16 games, with injured and ineffective Edelman.

    That is like around #18 among all 32 offenses.

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    18th out of 32 is by its very definition below average.

    Sounds about right if you want to describe Brady’s last season as a Patriot.

  50. 18th out of 32 is by its very definition below average.

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    Who wouldve been able to do better?

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