Dispute brewing in New York State over vaccine requirement to attend Bills games

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Erie County Executive Mark Poloncarz said this week that fans attending Bills games in the fall would be required to show they’re vaccinated. But New York Governor Andrew Cuomo says no such requirement is legal.

I don’t think the county executive is legally correct,” Cuomo said, via the Buffalo News. “But besides that, we tend to work in a collaborative with local government, and we’re just not there yet to make those decisions.”

Poloncarz responded that policies and procedures at the Bills’ home stadium are under county authority, and the governor has no say on the matter.

“The state has not approved most of the things – actually the state approves almost nothing that we do at the facility,” he said.

It’s possible that this will come down to a legal battle, with courts deciding whether the county has the authority to require proof of vaccination before admittance to the stadium. Regardless, what’s clear is that even if fans don’t legally have to get vaccinated, they should. The COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective, and the sooner everyone gets one, the sooner we can go back to enjoying full football stadiums — and everything else we took for granted 14 months ago.

44 responses to “Dispute brewing in New York State over vaccine requirement to attend Bills games

  1. As a Bills season ticket holder, I support the county’s decision requiring those in attendance to be vaccinated. This makes complete sense from a public health policy standpoint. There is no constitutional right, state of federal, to attend NFL games. Deciding to not get vaccinated will inevitably have consequences, not being able to watch a NFL game in a stadium with thousands of other people is reasonably one of them.

  2. Why get a vaccine if we are not going to open things up ? If everyone is vaccinated in a full stadium what’s the problem ?

  3. Regardless, what’s clear is that even if fans don’t legally have to get vaccinated, they should. The COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective.
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    Why?
    People who are fully vaccinated are getting covid again.

  4. These counties over ruling states rulings is getting old fast. Fall in line. Know your role. Get off your high horse county health person.

  5. I swear, in 100 years people are gonna look back on this pandemic and just wonder at how stupid and petty people were. Millions of people have died worldwide and yet we keep hearing it’s not a “deadly” virus.

    Masks, vaccinations, social distancing – these aren’t measures to stifle your personal freedoms, they’re meant to save lives.

    Of course, the call for full stadiums and returning to normal as numbers are spiking again in many parts of the country and the world seems misguided and premature.

  6. I agree with theCounty Exec and you Mr Smith. People SHOULD be getting the vaccine, PERIOD! In addition, the NFL should be mandating the players for their own safety. I don’t get the great debate here at all. The vaccine is safe and upto 98% effective. The NFLPA needs to get with the program and advocate vaccination.

  7. The shots are free, safe and effective. The practice of quarantine, as we know it, began during the 14th century in an effort to protect coastal cities from plague epidemics.

    The Bills have the right idea – with the shot you protect not only yourself – but everyone with who you come into contact.

    With personal and societal responsibility comes privileges.

  8. The US government has been requiring vaccinations since the 90s… the 1790s. The Small Pox vaccine was mandatory from 1796 to 1972 when it was eradicated because, wait for it, vaccinations were REQUIRED! Also, every student’s family since the early 1970s has been required to show proof of vaccination for public school enrollment. Get the shot. Wear a mask. Look after your neighbors.

  9. Didn’t they just yank the Johnson & Johnson vaccine because it was killing people? Not sure how you can enforce these things after all of that.

  10. There’s no logic for the vaccine shaming. If you get vaccinated yourself, what do you care if others aren’t? You’re safe. I thought that was the point.

    Stop pushing people to make a health decision. It’s creepy.

  11. AFW says:
    April 15, 2021 at 9:05 am
    I swear, in 100 years people are gonna look back on this pandemic and just wonder at how stupid and petty people were. Millions of people have died worldwide and yet we keep hearing it’s not a “deadly” virus.

    Masks, vaccinations, social distancing – these aren’t measures to stifle your personal freedoms, they’re meant to save lives.

    Of course, the call for full stadiums and returning to normal as numbers are spiking again in many parts of the country and the world seems misguided and premature.
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    Per the CDC Website-2019 – 8,000 People per day died in the US, most of them over the age of 78.5, 2020 – 8,000 people per day died in the US, most of them over the age of 78.5
    How many lives were saved and are being saved ?

  12. Regardless, what’s clear is that even if fans don’t legally have to get vaccinated, they should. The COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective.
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    Why?
    People who are fully vaccinated are getting covid again.
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    Getting COVID and dying from COVID are two very different things. Cases are spiking but deaths are declining, a trend that won’t continue if everyone does not start getting vaccinated. When everyone participates in the vaccination process eventually the virus has virtually no where to go and thats how it gets stamped out.

  13. Simple thumbs up vs thumbs down count will tell u where the ppl stand on this one comrade!!! Maybe all the PLAYERS should get the vaccination first. Bet you a bunch won’t. U know the funny thing about having to SHOW ID that lots of people are flipping out about not wanting to to vote, well those same people aren’t gonna wanna show a vaccine ID either!!!!!

  14. Arguing about this with people is pointless. If you can’t understand scientific data and clinical trials, there is nothing anyone can say other than good luck.

  15. I’m fine with incentives for vaccine and feel most everyone should get vaccinated, but i don’t think it should ever be a requirement.

  16. Regardless, what’s clear is that even if fans don’t legally have to get vaccinated, they should. The COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective.

    ++++++++++

    Then why has the AstraZeneca vaccine been pulled in some European countries? Why has the Johnson and Johnson vaccine been suspended?

  17. A lot of these “fans” must’ve hit their heads when they were crashing through tables.
    GET VACCINATED!!

  18. NY & CA always with the drama…they could learn a lot from the south & midwest but they are to arrogant to admit it…thats one of the reasons so many of their residents are moving…

  19. Open everything back up. People who want to be vaccinated can be and people that dont want to be shouldnt be forced to be. The vaccine will still protect the vaccinated people. And the people who choose not to get it will just be protected by their own immune system. Its everyones choice.

  20. collectordude says:
    April 15, 2021 at 8:56 am
    Regardless, what’s clear is that even if fans don’t legally have to get vaccinated, they should. The COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective.
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    Why?
    People who are fully vaccinated are getting covid again.

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    Yes, but there are extenuating circumstances. My own doctor told me he got it right after being vaccinated. You’re not fully protected, to the percentage of your particular vaccination, until 14 days after the 2nd shot. Those who have gotten it had a less serious illness with no hospitalization or death.

  21. It is worth repeating this : thankfully we now have a vaccine against Covid-19, unfortunately there’s still no vaccine available for stupidity!
    COVID 19 has killed over 550,000 Americans!
    Protect your self and others, get vaccinated!!!

  22. “Didn’t they just yank the Johnson & Johnson vaccine because it was killing people? Not sure how you can enforce these things after all of that.”

    No, the J&J vaccine has been paused because six, only SIX, people developed blood clots possibly because of the vaccine. Six people out of the overall six MILLION people who have received the J&J vaccine.

  23. So if people who are vaccinated are getting it again, but not dying due to the vaccine then if someone has already had it without the vaccine and recovered, then they have no need for the vaccine. This whole “EVERYONE SHOULD GET VACCINATED!!11!” ignores the millions who have antibodies and are just as immune as those who have been vaccinated.

  24. What are the rules for Yankee Stadium and Citifield, next biggest stadiums in NY State?

  25. I think I’ll wait to get vaccinated until the FDA approves the vaccine. It currently only has an emergency use authorization because there are no data on the long-term effects of the vaccine. People who say it is “safe” have no idea what they’re talking about.

  26. buffaloboys says:
    April 15, 2021 at 11:05 am
    What are the rules for Yankee Stadium and Citifield, next biggest stadiums in NY State?

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    They are currently at limited capacity.

  27. This is the wrong forum for anyone to be advocating vaccinations or masks — won’t be well-received. The thing is that private businesses can pretty much set whatever parameters they want with respect to entering their premises. If fans don’t like it they can just stay in the parking lot and jump on card tables.

  28. collectordude says:
    April 15, 2021 at 8:56 am
    Regardless, what’s clear is that even if fans don’t legally have to get vaccinated, they should. The COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective.
    —————————–
    Why?
    People who are fully vaccinated are getting covid again.
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    Breakthrough infections are totally expected, predicted, and watched to look for any statistical aberrations and patterns. No vaccine is 100% protective. 77 million are fully vaccinated, but breakthrough infections lag. There have been 5800 breakthrough infections so far and there will be more.

    If you want to be conservative, use 50 million as a fully vaccinated number. There have been 5800 breakthrough infections, 396 hospitalizations, and 74 deaths. Your odds of getting COVID after vaccination are .00012. Your odds of hospitalization or death are miniscule.

    Mass vaccination can lead to herd immunity, decreases the amount of variants being produced that could make vaccines less effective, protects others than just you from getting sick or dying, and breaks the chain of transmission and geometric progression. It’s how we’ve eradicated smallpox and nearly eradicated polio. Read up on the history of polio and how it killed and paralyzed people and disrupted life for decades until a vaccine was found.

  29. purpleguy says:
    April 15, 2021 at 1:14 pm
    This is the wrong forum for anyone to be advocating vaccinations or masks — won’t be well-received. The thing is that private businesses can pretty much set whatever parameters they want with respect to entering their premises. If fans don’t like it they can just stay in the parking lot and jump on card tables.

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    100% They are allowed to establish their own policies for who enters the stadium and who doesn’t. Just gets complicated when the county and the owners aren’t on the same page.

    One thing for the Bills that will have an impact is the Canadian fans. Canada just isn’t getting vaccinated at the pace the states is and likely the border may still be closed come the fall. A good chunk of fans come from Toronto.

    But the team is hot now, so it is likely the can still fill the stadium. Get it as loud as possible!!

  30. How much money do you make? How much do you weigh? We don’t ask questions of this nature, why would someone ask me if I have been vaccinated? Seems like a personal choice. And clearly if they have “paused” on the J&J, it isn’t “safe”.

  31. If someone told you what is in it, you wouldn’t understand one word of it. You don’t have to get vaccinated. But if you choose not to, stay the hell at home for the foreseeable future. You are a clear and present danger to those of us who have more than 2 working brain cells.

  32. I think Cuomo should focus on the sexual harassment allegations against him and stay out of politics.

  33. gotitan says:
    April 15, 2021 at 1:55 pm

    How much money do you make? How much do you weigh? We don’t ask questions of this nature, why would someone ask me if I have been vaccinated? Seems like a personal choice.

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    Money and weight aren’t contagious things that can affect other people.
    Why is this so difficult to understand?

  34. gotitan says:
    April 15, 2021 at 1:55 pm
    How much money do you make? How much do you weigh? We don’t ask questions of this nature, why would someone ask me if I have been vaccinated? Seems like a personal choice. And clearly if they have “paused” on the J&J, it isn’t “safe”.
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    6 cases of blood clots in 7.9 million vaccinations. Less than a one in a million chance of getting a blood clot from the J and J vaccine as it stands. The risk of severe blood clots due to COVID is 8-10 times higher than that of the J & J shot.

    A “pause” in the rollout doesn’t mean it’s not safe. No more will be distributed for the period but you can still get the shot where it’s being offered. The pause is to look at data and the cases and see if there is any causal relationship. CVST blood clots happen in 5 in every million in the general population.

    Medications have side effects. For example, for women using birth control pills, there is a 1 in 1000 chance someone will have a blood clot (though not the same type as they are looking at here). People die from reactions to everyday medications, from aspirin to blood pressure meds.

  35. “The COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective, and the sooner everyone gets one, the sooner we can go back to enjoying full football stadiums — and everything else we took for granted 14 months ago.”

    So if I get the vaccine and become ill, have some kind of side effect, or even die. Since you are stating that it is safe and effective, can I or my family sue you if any of the things I mentioned come to fruition? Because there is no way you can claim that you know for certain that the vaccines are safe. With reports of the Johnson and Johnson vaccine potentially causing blood clots, it is very very irresponsible to continue to push these vaccines.

  36. Most of these commenters are showing precisely why the United States is 14th in world education…

  37. stogiesandfootball says:
    April 15, 2021 at 3:05 pm
    “The COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective, and the sooner everyone gets one, the sooner we can go back to enjoying full football stadiums — and everything else we took for granted 14 months ago.”
    So if I get the vaccine and become ill, have some kind of side effect, or even die. Since you are stating that it is safe and effective, can I or my family sue you if any of the things I mentioned come to fruition? Because there is no way you can claim that you know for certain that the vaccines are safe. With reports of the Johnson and Johnson vaccine potentially causing blood clots, it is very very irresponsible to continue to push these vaccines.
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    There is no way that anyone can claim that anything is safe. You should not take any medications at all then. Probably don’t want to try any new foods either, because with any of these there’s a one-in-a-million chance that you might have a reaction and be hospitalized or die.

    Don’t swim, as the odds of drowning are 1 in 1128. Beware of dogs, because the odds of dying in a dog attack are 1 in 86,000, and stay away or wear protective gear when dealing with sharp objects, since the odds of death are 1 in 30,000. And god forbid, don’t get into a car, where the lifetime odds of dying in a car related accident are 1 in 107. And of course, stay inside so you don’t get COVID. The odds of dying from any of these are far, far, better than dying from a vaccination.

  38. People should be rebellious and fight for things that truly matter. People who think they’re rebels because they don’t want to wear a mask or get a vaccine just make me laugh. They’re not exactly going to write a book someday about this being the greatest generation, that’s for sure.

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