Jim McMahon: Packers are the best organization I played for, Bears are where QBs go to die

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The only starting quarterback to win a Super Bowl for the Bears has made some comments that won’t go over well in Chicago.

Jim McMahon, who started his career in Chicago and ended it in Green Bay, told 1252 Sports that Green Bay was the best franchise he was with in the NFL.

“It was the best team, or the best organization, that I’ve played for of the seven teams I’ve played for,” McMahon said. “By far. From top to bottom it was great people.”

McMahon was the Bears’ first-round draft pick in 1982, won Super Bowl XX with the 1985 Bears, and stayed in Chicago through the 1988 season. He then had stints with the Chargers, Eagles, Vikings, Cardinals and Browns before going to the Packers, where he won a Super Bowl XXXI ring as Brett Favre’s backup. McMahon said the Bears have always emphasized defense and the running game and have never been able to develop a quarterback.

“I think it’s where quarterbacks go to die,” McMahon said.

McMahon isn’t much of a fan these days. Asked what the Bears should do in the draft, he said, “I don’t know, don’t watch them, don’t care. I wouldn’t know what they need or who they’re thinking of drafting.”

102 responses to “Jim McMahon: Packers are the best organization I played for, Bears are where QBs go to die

  1. Just googled it, Jim McMahon is 61 years old. 61 !!!

    Where has the time gone, flown by !!!

  2. Guy has a long history of concussions that can be traced back to his time in Chicago, so naturally with all of the suffering he has gone through in retirement he is going to feel this way about the Bears. I hope he finds peace and good health. Even with all of the concussion damage, he is spot on here. Guy had to completely sacrifice his body for Chicago and they didn’t do much to recognize or take care of him after they used him up.

  3. Jim, the 85 Bears could have had a Mop or Broom at the QB position and still would have destroyed the Patriots in Super Bowl XX. While I can’t argue with you, way to bite the hand that fed you, career backup guy.

  4. Alrighty then. Dont blame the bears cuz your career died jimmy boy. Huge ego…lack of talent…and injuries did that. Yes u won a super bowl but if you can see reality youve gotta know that was due to the defense. Hell you were Trent Dilfer before Trent Dilfer was Trent Dilfer!!!!

  5. A former browns QB says another organization is where QBs go to die? Looks like we moved up a spot in the QB hell power rankings! Of course those were the modell browns organization he’s talking about but I’ll take it!

  6. The more things change, the more things stay the same. GB has expectations and a culture around the QB position (Starr, Favre, Rodgers). CHI has expectations and a culture around their ‘Smash-mouth Defense!!!” Both teams have formed their own way of doing things, and it’ll be the same story playing out time and time again. Don’t be surprised when whoever comes in to replace Rodgers is another top-5 QB in the league, and the Bears either develop or sign high-priced defensive free agents and surround them with top-notch coaching. Bears are a great organization, maybe just not for the QB position.

  7. Must’ve been horrible handing off to Walter Payton 25 times a game and having a defense that gave up nothing in three playoff games.

    Times have changed, but in the 1980s, Da Bears had it and the Packers didn’t.

  8. As a Bears fan, he’s not wrong. While McMahon didn’t light it up on the stats sheet, he was clutch and had a flair for the game in his prime so, no, he was not Trent Dilfer. Ironically, it was Packers’ Charles Martin who slammed him into the ground that injured his shoulder and that was the beginning of his decline that derailed his career. Again, he is not wrong about the Bears’ inability to develop quarterbacks that made them irrelevant in the modern game.

  9. Jimmy Mack played with GB in ’95-96. 25 years ago. Do you honestly think both organizations haven’t changed in a quarter century?

    That said…he is right about the Bears currently. As long as I’ve watched them, McMahon is the only one who’s had any success. They need a culture change to make any impact this century.

  10. ibtp

    The Bears have certainly had their struggles at the QB position but this seems awfully harsh. Sounds like Jimmy’s got a case of sour grapes (and I always loved watching him).

  11. Jim is the original Trent Dilfer “right place at right time” guy who should thank his lucky stars he was dragged along by that defense, but otherwise, he contention here isn’t wrong.

  12. He FORGETS the fact that a Green Bay Packer, Charles Martin, picked McMahon up and drove his head to the ground three seconds after the play was whistled dead. YEA Jim, that’s a CLASSY organization that condoned a player to do that. Real Classy!!

  13. We can comment all we want, but in the end, he’s the only guy who played for the Bears organization. What I appreciate about McMahon’s comments is that he is consistent–he was a badA then and hasn’t changed.

  14. Author, you don’t know Chicago very well. This will go over FINE with Bears fans. Because EVERY SINGLE BEARS FAN ON THE PLANET knows that Chicago is where QBs go to die. If anything, McMahon should be applauded for saying it. No QB has “thrived” in Chicago since the 1940’s (Sid Luckman). So this is not breaking news for Bears fans.

  15. Jim maybe right but too many reckless runs on his part and a cheap shot body slam by Charles Martin just took too much toll on his body … enjoy polishing that ring.

  16. well you can’t argue with the success the Packers have had at the QB position.

  17. He played for three of four teams in the NFCN. If his opinion isn’t legit, whose is?

  18. Sure, the Bears were a defensive juggernaut and had a run-heavy offense, but in the Super Bowl McMahon threw for over 250 yards and ran the ball in twice himself. The score wasn’t 46-10 because McMahon was a nothing QB.

    I was living in Chicago during the first half of the McMahon years. That was when Ditka was the coach and Buddy Ryan the DC. They despised each other and pitted the offensive and defensive guys against each other. Management/ownership allowed that negative atmosphere to continue. It’s pretty easy to imagine why McMahon wouldn’t have fond memories of his time with the Bears.

  19. Jim was a marketing genius, those Rozelle headbands were priceless! But as an actual quarterback? Meh…

  20. Jim said the Packers are by far the best team & organization he ever played for, but he didn’t say the Bears were the worst.

    His Chicago is where the QB’s go to die comment is more truth than not. I don’t think actual Bears fans will hate on Jim for that.

    Jim McMahon played the 1993 season for the Vikings and broke his neck in the final game. The Vikings basically forced Jim to finish the game which was a loss to the Giants. The Vikings medical staff never even bothered to diagnose the injury after the game. I am sure this failure by the Vikings led in part to Jim’s later health issues. Jim is a good dude, he deserved better than that.

    Good luck in the future Jim!✊

  21. There is a reason he played 15 years in the NFL. McMahon was tough as nails as QB and he brought great leadership qualities. He certainly earned his right to an opinion about these organizations. Like him or not McMahon has always told it like it is.

  22. Thanks for confirming what we all already knew….the Packers are a better organization than the Vikings….😁

  23. eaglesfan77511 says:
    April 15, 2021 at 5:21 am
    Alrighty then. Dont blame the bears cuz your career died jimmy boy. Huge ego…lack of talent…and injuries did that. Yes u won a super bowl but if you can see reality youve gotta know that was due to the defense. Hell you were Trent Dilfer before Trent Dilfer was Trent Dilfer!!!!
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    Huh?:

    McMahon, who completed 12 out of 20 passes for 256 yards, became the first quarterback in a Super Bowl to score 2 rushing touchdowns. Bears receiver Willie Gault finished the game with 129 receiving yards on just 4 receptions, an average of 32.3 yards per catch.

  24. Doesn’t bother me that he said it – it’s up to the Bears themselves to prove him wrong.

  25. He’s in the right ballpark. Trubisky would’ve benefited from sitting behind a veteran for a year or two. Then they brought it Foles – who they sort of half committed to, like everyone does with Foles, then went back to Trubisky.

    And now Dalton – who, let’s face it – will probably get pulled the second he’s not perfect. Rarely does any QB do well right away when moving to a new team – the Bucs didn’t pick up steam until the end of the season. The Bears would’ve pulled Brady halfway through the season.

    All of this is just a way of saying that the Bears’ QB strategy is “we have no strategy, and we’re not gonna exercise any patience about it”.

  26. Ouch. Honestly though, I’m not sure a lot of Bears fans are going to disagree with him.

    Even Rex Grossman played a lot better after he left Chicago (when he got his chances in Washington) than he did when he was there. I remember watching him late in his career once and thinking they probably would have won the Super Bowl if he could have played like that when he was still a Bear.

  27. One of the original “Me” Boys; he still has an ego unfettered by reality. He was tough though, give him that for sure, but of course that can often be attributed to numbness.

  28. He’s assuming that the QBs who went there would’ve been good if they played for another team. A long history of below average Bears QBs makes it more more likely that they were just never any good to begin with.

  29. I miss Jimmy Mac. He was the best Bears QB since Luckman. He wasn’t particularly skilled, but could he ever read a Defense. He also was a pretty good leader on the offensive side. He drank beers with his O-Linemen and they would run through a brick wall to protect him. Injuries piled up quickly for him shortening what should have been a more memorable career. The man had swagger.

  30. “Jim, the 85 Bears could have had a Mop or Broom at the QB position and still would have destroyed the Patriots in Super Bowl XX.”

    — Tell that to Mike Tomscak, Steve Fuller or Doug Flutie…

  31. Mitchell Trubisky was actually coming on last season for Chicago. and starting to play well in their system. And then for no apparent reason, they ditched Mitch, and replaced him with Andy Dalton. Confusing.

  32. Brett Favre said the same thing about the Vikings after he had the best season of his career with them.

  33. McMahon would run across the room, tackle a reporter to give an hour long interview to whine how much he hates speaking to reporters

  34. Fun fact: Jim has a Super Bowl ring from both teams both against the Patriots.

  35. Wasn’t it a Packer that picked him up and slammed him to the turf, knocking him out for half a season?

  36. Silliness. He sounds very bitter. Yes, the Packers do have 2 SB wins in the modern NFL. And the Bears have 1. Not really a huge difference. I won’t go to the trouble of naming the Qb’s the Packers had before Favre. Didn’t they have like 25 years of straight futility? 1 playoff win between 1968-1993?

  37. [since McMahon] Steve Walsh, Erik Kramer, Dave Krieg, Shane Matthews, Cade McNown, Jim Miller, Kordell Stewart, Chris Chandler, Craig Krenzel, Chad Hutchinson, Johnathan Quinn, Rex Grossman, Kyle Orton, Brian Griese, Jay Culter, Todd Collings, Caleb Hanie, Josh McCown, Jason Campbell, Jimmy Clausen, Matt Barkley, Brian Hoyer, Mike Glennon, Chase Daniel, Mitchell Trubisky, and Nick Foles all agree.

  38. Jim has always been a goofball, but he’s not wrong obviously. But the Packers jersey is a bit much. He did win a Super Bowl with the Bears after all, and he didn’t die there.

  39. Ironic: the packers are the team that ended his career with the worst cheap shot in nfl history. Look it up. It’s on video.

  40. As a lifelong Bears fan I unfortunately can’t argue with what McMahon said about the Bears. With 100+ years of wasting, not developing, and getting rid of talent at the QB position not much else can be said. This years move from MT to Dalton makes no sense at all.

  41. Where’s the lie? He’s not saying anything any real Bears fan hasn’t said about that team for decades. Seemingly the Packers are the only team in the NFC North not known for using QB’s then throwing them away like dirty laundry. Responding to a comment above at least ex Browns QB’s are offered chances at learning to coach by the team after Cleveland destroys their on field careers which has panned out pretty well since the list of Browns QB’s since 99 can double as QB coaches, OC’s (and in Frank Reichs case head coach)for the 2021 NFL season at this point.

  42. VERY rare set of circumstances.

    Harlan.. Wolf.. Holmgren.. half-a-dozen guys that would be head coaches.. Favre.. Reggie..

    Great organization from the tip of the spear, all the way down.

  43. Asked what the Bears should do in the draft, he said, “I don’t know, don’t watch them, don’t care. I wouldn’t know what they need or who they’re thinking of drafting.”
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    This makes ZERO sense. If he doesn’t watch or follow the Bears, how does he know are “where QBs go to die” anymore? I mean, I get it when Michael Wilbon goes off on the Bears because he’s a passionate Chicago fan and still cares to actually watch, but McMahon comes off as just bitter.

  44. Rick Martin says:
    April 15, 2021 at 9:33 am

    And he gazes down at his Super Bowl Ring
    ********
    Which one?

    Jim McMahon has always been an interesting individual.
    With a certain flair for doing his own thing and saying what he wants with little to no filter.
    So this doesn’t surprise me at all.

    Jim actually wore his Bears’ jersey to the White House when the ‘96 Packers team visited celebrating their Super Bowl win.
    Though it rubbed a few fans the wrong way he had his reasons.
    The Bears Championship trip to the nation’s capital was canceled in ‘86 due to the Challenger shuttle explosion.
    McMahon cleared the move with his Packer teammates beforehand.
    So if they had no problem with it, why should anyone else?

    I’m glad that Jim remembers his time in Green Bay with fondness.
    McMahon isn’t the first veteran player to exalt the Packers organization in such a way, and I’m quite sure he won’t be the last either. 😉

  45. McMahon won his Super Bowl ring in Chicago because the Bears had the league’s top defense that season and they also had Walter Payton, not because McMahon is a great quarterback. If a great D and a strong running game wins Super Bowls (just ask the Steelers of the 1970s and the Cowboys of the 1990s), why shouldn’t Chicago try to do the same? The Steelers had Franco Harris and the Steel Curtain. The Cowboys had Emmitt Smith and a great D.

  46. Jim,

    Have you seen the packers horrific draft boards the passed 10 years?

    ———————————————

    Yeah, how did that Trubisky trade work out for you?

  47. That’s odd, considering every former viking calls Minnesota the best franchise! Every former and CURRENT viking! Minnesota is the franchise where all college and NFL players dream about playing for, and all retired players from other teams wish they had the opportunity to have played for. Almost all former players loved their time in Minnesota so much that they ended up moving there and being a part of the local community after their careers ended. And all of them are ambassadors for the brand, encouraging free agents to come to the land of 10,000 lakes and be a part of the most historic franchise in the history of the league!!

  48. Jim obviously didn’t watch the packers in the 70s,80s,or 90s. ZERO playoff wins! 👌🤣

  49. McMahon is right, but he’ll be criticized because you can’t tell the truth these days.

  50. ariani1985 says:
    April 15, 2021 at 11:53 am

    Jim obviously didn’t watch the packers in the 70s,80s,or 90s. ZERO playoff wins! 👌🤣 —————————————————————————————– Fact: The Packers won 9 playoff games in the 1990’s including Superbowl XXXI.

  51. I always thought it was Brent Williams or Tim Goad who altered the course of his career. He suffered a knee injury in the 1988 rematch with the Patriots, a game New England won 30-7 over the 7-1 Bears. McMahon was out 6 weeks and gave way to quintessential Bear Mike Tomczak. Mike Ditka also suffered a heart attack not long after the game and accused one of the two Patriots defenders of twisting his knee in the pile after the play was blown dead. McMahon was never the same after this. Up to this point he had compiled a 46-15 record as starting QB.

  52. Really… what value is his opinion of what the “culture” or “organizations” were like 25 (or more) years ago?

    Pretty much without value in my mind.

    His comments speak to nothing but his opinion/feelings/memory/experience at a point in time more than a quarter of a century ago.

  53. The 85 Bears championship season is the only one-off I will never consider a f*rt in the wind. Even more than the 2000 Ravens, this team was scary in the way they terrorized offenses. And they brought out the best in the opponents they squashed. I remember three incredible hits to Bears players by the New England defense. The hit on Payton by Julius Adams that forced a fumble and gave the Pats their only lead in SB XX (3-0). The hit on McMahon by Ronnie Lippett. And my fave … in the regular season game earlier that year (Week 2), the hit in which Payton ran right into the arms of black belt Andre Tippett, who picked him up and dropped him on his head. Good times were had by all.

  54. As a Bears fan, I totally agree. They are organizationally dysfunctional about quarterbacks. They don’t draft them, they don’t develop them, they don’t care about them. I think the 85 Bears broke them about quarterbacks. Every other team knows you need quarterbacks, and we seem to think we don’t need to invest in them. I hate it.

  55. californianewton says:

    McMahon won his Super Bowl ring

    **************

    You can stop right there

  56. The 85 Bears championship season is the only one-off I will never consider a f*rt in the wind. Even more than the 2000 Ravens, this team was scary in the way they terrorized offenses.
    _________________________________________

    Bears were scarier, yes. But not better. Ravens allowed only 60 yards a game rushing and lowest points allowed ever in 16 game schedule.

  57. Brett Favre became the Packers starter in 1992 so if Aaron Rodgers finishes his season in 2021, they will have a THIRTY year stability with only 2 quarterbacks at that position! That’s the envy of the league, not just for the Bears! The only comparable stability was in the 49ers from Joe Montana(1980-1990) to Steve Young(1991-1999) in the span of 20 years. And of course, there was that one guy in Foxboro who lasted 20 years in this century.

  58. For the record, Bear QBs better than Jimmy Mcmuffin: Jay Cutler, Erik Kramer, Sid Luckman, The Fridge, Rex Grossman, Andy Dalton.

  59. Where is this QB love for McMahon coming from? Average QB at best! I guess all you guys do look at is wins. They are many other contributing players to wins besides the QB. No wonder you think Brady is the best of all time. No, both he and Jimmy benefited from team success. McMahon is better than Difer, but does he come up in any meaningful QB convo? And please no HOF talk, I may have another Edelman meltdown.

  60. The 85 Bears championship season is the only one-off I will never consider a f*rt in the wind.
    ==========

    49ers – 4 Super Bowls in the 80s
    Redskins – 4 Super Bowls in the 80s
    Giants – 2 Super Bowls in the 80s

    The NFC was absolutely loaded.

    The Eagles are the only other NFC franchise to get to the SB in the 80s… IN 1980..

  61. conormacleod says:
    April 15, 2021 at 9:44 am
    Silliness. He sounds very bitter. Yes, the Packers do have 2 SB wins in the modern NFL. And the Bears have 1. Not really a huge difference. I won’t go to the trouble of naming the Qb’s the Packers had before Favre. Didn’t they have like 25 years of straight futility? 1 playoff win between 1968-1993?
    ==============================================================
    The “Modern NFL” in the eyes of any Vikings’ fan attempts to eliminate any of the Packers’ championships or the first two Super Bowls or the Bears 1963 championship. Vikings’ fans should probably avoid talking about the futility of other teams regarding Super Bowls, given that the Vikings haven’t been to one in 44 years.

  62. If the Bears are where QB’s go to die, then the Vikings are where offensive linemen go to what?

  63. There’s truth to all the comments about McMahon having the luxury of a great defense and (an aging) Walter Payton. That doesn’t change that fact that he and Mike Tomczak, having played QB for both teams, have insights into both organizations that very few if any others do. That includes players, coaches and analysts who don’t have the same level of first hand knowledge of BOTH organizations, and most of all fans who’ve never been inside either either. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just delusional.

  64. philmccracken says:
    April 15, 2021 at 3:03 pm

    If the Bears are where QB’s go to die, then the Vikings are where offensive linemen go to what?
    ***********
    Well, we know for certain that Minnesota is the place where every player’s Championship dreams go to die. 🤣

  65. Sick and tired of hearing all these positive stories about Green Bay. Vikings were best team he played on.

  66. The ONE SB winning QB and you guys crap all over him for speaking the truth. Blaming concussions, geez. I love the Bears but my fellow fans suck the life out of everything.

  67. Can’t wait to see Andy Dalton win the Superbowl this season and see what McMahon says next.

  68. I don’t think anyone has hurt feelings like you do about being wrong about the Lions and Raiders consistently for the past several years.

    The Packers had two back to back HOF QB’s for the past 29 years two SB appearances.

    The Bears never had a HOF QB and have made the SB twice with Jim McMahon and Rex Grossman in those 29 years.

  69. I rarely comment about the Lions or Raiders because I don’t care about either franchise.

    And the Packers have had THREE SB appearances with Favre and Rodger, with 2 wins, making their total 4 SUPER BOWL wins.

    The Bears have been to 2 with 1 win.

    The Bears have also, outside of a few random windows, been largely dominated by the Packers for the last 30 years.

    These are all facts.

  70. The Packers had two back to back HOF QBs in those 30 years, that was what I was pointing out. You clearly got dropped on your head at a young age. The Bears made it to the Superbowl with QB’s worse than your Raiders B squad QBs on the roster. Keep liking our own posts and changing your name though, it’s amazing how much you think your opinion on here means anything while you constantly get worked on here and change your name.

  71. The Packers had two back to back HOF QBs in those 30 years, that was what I was pointing out. You clearly got dropped on your head at a young age. The Bears made it to the Superbowl with QB’s worse than your Raiders B squad QBs on the roster. Keep liking your own posts and changing your name though, it’s amazing how much you think your opinion on here means anything while you constantly get worked on here and change your name.

  72. Never forget that Jim work a Bears jersey to the White House after the Packers won the Super Bowl. I bet that caught some attention in Chicago and Green Bay.

    The league needs more Jim McMahon’s.

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