Do Packers prefer an Aaron Rodgers retirement to a trade?

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By all appearances, the Packers and quarterback Aaron Rodgers have set up shop on the other side of a thick line in the sand, and no one is budging. Unless the two sides reach a compromise (if there was a compromise to be had, it arguably would have already happened), someone will have to blink.

Will it be Rodgers? Based on the world-class grudges he has held in the past, that’s highly unlikely.

Will it be the Packers? There has been no indication that they’ll give in, which obviously could be aimed at maximizing whatever someone else offers for him.

There’s another angle worth considering, and it traces to the fact that the Packers don’t have a traditional owner. If the team had an owner who couldn’t be fired, the owner could/would survive making a mistake in the handling of Rodgers. CEO Mark Murphy is the closest thing the team has to an owner, and he risks eventual accountability based on the manner in which the Rodgers saga unfolds.

The options for the Packers, if Rodgers remains dug in, are to trade him or to let him sit, regardless of the package offered to Green Bay. The choice thus becomes to take the best offer and let Rodgers play elsewhere, or to invite him to retire.

From Murphy’s perspective, only one of those two options opens the door to an alternate reality that possibly gets him fired. If he trades Rodgers and he goes to Denver and wins a Super Bowl or two, that makes the Packers and Murphy looks bad. The Packers and Murphy would end up looking even worse if Rodgers, after two or three years with a team like the Broncos, finagles his way back to the Vikings, Bears, or Lions.

Murphy already has seen this movie. Fortunately for him, it ended without Brett Favre winning a Super Bowl.

This time around, the dynamics are different. The Packers had moved on from Favre. He showed up unannounced to training camp, and the Packers had to decide whether to pay him $12 million to back up Rodgers, to cut him (and let him go straight to Minnesota), or to trade him. The Packers, in contrast, haven’t moved on from Rodgers. Even if Jordan Love becomes the starter to start the 2021 season, they’d immediately pivot back to Rodgers if/when he shows up.

Although they could get much more for Rodgers than the third-round pick they received from the Jets for Favre, they also can get a lot from Rodgers. If he retires, he’ll owe $23 million in unearned signing bonus money. Also, he’d give up the $6.8 million roster bonus he earned earlier this year, and he’d lose his $14.7 million salary for 2021. Throw in the $500,000 workout bonus he’ll forfeit this year, that’s a grand total of $45 million in cash and cap space.

So on one hand, the Packers can trade Rodgers, saving only an extra $14.7 million and getting picks or players for him. On the other hand, they can tell him, “You play for us or you play for no one,” collecting nearly $30 million in cash from Rodgers and freeing up that same amount in cap space.

Here’s the most important factor: If Rodgers retires, Murphy never can be proven wrong. There will be no possible Rodgers Super Bowl win with another team because there will be no other team. And while the Packers also won’t have the draft picks they would have gotten for Rodgers, those potential picks never become names and faces to which Packers fans can point and say, “Wow, that guy would have really helped us.”

Besides, the Packers easily can explain to potentially confused and disgruntled fans and shareholders that the front office created $30 million in cash and cap space by playing hardball with Rodgers. Indeed, if they trade him, whatever they get will be offset by the lost opportunity to capture $30 million in cash and cap space.

That’s why the Packers (and specifically Murphy) should be predisposed to calling Rodgers’ bluff and daring him to retire. If he does, there’s no worst-case scenario to worry about. If he doesn’t, Murphy will spend the next couple of years watching and waiting for an ultra-motivated Rodgers to match and/or to exceed his career output of Super Bowl championships with a new team — while also dreading the possibility that he then would cap his career with a return to the NFC North.

Frankly, it seems like a no-brainer for Murphy. The best message to Rodgers is show up or retire, and if you choose the latter please make the check for 29 million, 800 thousand, and 00/100 dollars payable to Green Bay Packers, Inc.

144 responses to “Do Packers prefer an Aaron Rodgers retirement to a trade?

  1. Let the bum walk. We wouldn’t have done it any differently in New England. #InBBWeTrust.

  2. The cap space GB would save with Rodgers retiring doesn’t touch the assets they could acquire in a trade. It would be ridiculous to let the reigning MVP leave your team for nothing, but as a Bears fan it wouldn’t bother me one bit.

  3. If they can get at least two 1st round picks then trade him, otherwise collect $30 million from Rodgers and thanks for the memories.

  4. By the way if Jordan Love isn’t great right away then Gutekunst and possibly Lafleur are fired anyways. Gute 100%

  5. IMO, the Packers and their fans want him to retire. They can claw money back, and the fans can see their new QB. Jordan Love threw 20TDs and 17INTs in 2019, so its easy to see why the Packers brass thought he would be a good replacement for Rodgers who threw 17INTs and 105TDs in the last 4 years.

    I hope Aaron reports and makes life a nightmare for the organization.

  6. Ok… So they either dont have him anymore and get ridiculous compensation, or, they dont have hin anymore and they get nothing…. Hmmm…. Seems like a no-brainer.

  7. Yes, we would look much less foolish if he retired as opposed to him going to another team and shredding us and/or winning a super bowl.

  8. Another possibility is that Rodgers shows up and is a huge distraction. And it seems like he could do that.

    If he retires, sure, GB gets money back. But the opportunity cost of not trading him when they could have would be huge. As a WFT fan, I can tell you that stings. Bruce Allen could have traded Trent Williams for much higher compensation than he did. But no, he had to get into a pis*ing contest with him.

    Someone in the GB FO needs to figure out how to maximize the value of the situation they’re in. Trade him? Have him play and be a distraction (though you still might win a lot of games)? Let him retire?

    I’m thinking retirement is the least attractive to GB.

  9. If Rodgers retires and the Packers go 6-10 the next few years Murphy looks bad for not getting 3 first round draft picks…

  10. Could you imagine being Jordan Love showing up to work like Urkel “Did I do that” 😂

  11. Force him to play or retire.

    I just want to see Aaron do the Paul Crewe 3rd quarter from The Longest Yard.

  12. The problem with the scenario is yes you get almost 30 million in cap space as opposed to a trade BUT with a trade your bringing in future cost controlled draft picks.if you have a 1st rounder making say 6 million that same caliber player would be making likely around 12 or more if you signed him thru free agency so it’s not simply 30 million cap space vs 14.7 its 30 million with no extra draft picks vs 14.7 million WITH cost controlled draft picks.

  13. Here’s another scenario. Rodgers shows up, takes the money, pouts and puts in about 10% effort. Throws a few lazy picks in the first couple of games and forces the Packers to either trade him or cut him. Knowing the passive-aggressive nature of Aaron, this is also a distinct possibility.

  14. This is the Brett Favre situation all over again. You’d think the Packers would have learned their lesson. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

  15. if Rodgers REALLY wants to get traded he will redo his contract to make it trade friendly-losing a lot of money then forcing Denver to re-do his contract-which i’m sure they would

  16. Rodgers can easily force the Packers’ hand by showing up. Not only would he bring a circus of media with him, he could also feel a twinge in his shoulder or feel like his hamstring is tight all while still getting paid and ignoring the GM.

  17. I don’t see him retiring. He has a huge ego and wants to prove he can continue to play at a high level, possibly for a new team.

  18. I’d like to move on. I really don’t care how insulted Rodgers may have been, not any more. Holding a grudge is one thing. Burning the building down because of ego issues is another altogether. Why can’t the punishment fit the crime? Why, when the assault was a peashooter, is the response a cannon? I’m ready for Jordan Love and if he fails his first year, well, so what. So did Rodgers.

  19. I would not trade him. Make him play out his existing contract. If he becomes a cancer within the team which I would expect, then deactivate him and let him watch.

  20. Are the Packers a legit SB contender the next 2 or 3 years with Rodgers? Yes. Are they are a legit contender SB contender the next 2 or 3 years with Love and a boatload of picks from a trade? Probably not this season but longer term, the outlook will be good with the extra picks, especially a couple more #1’s. Are they a legit SB contender the next 2 or 3 years with Love, no extra picks b/c Rodgers retires, and possibly a significant percentage of the team disenfranchised b/c the team wanted to not look bad instead of wanting to do whatever they can to help them win? No, and if that’s what they do, then they’re no better than the Bengals, the WFT, and any other team that’s been blasted for caring more about anything other than trying to win a SB.

  21. When all is said and done it really doesn’t matter how Rodgers leaves. The only thing that will matter is how Love and the Packers perform, ie winning! If Love takes over and doesn’t miss a beat, then the Rodgers issue is dead. If Love fails, and failure is not getting to the playoffs, then Packers management will have to answer and they WILL NOT be able to use the excuse the QB wasn’t ready, cast around him wasn’t strong enough, etc.

  22. Lol, I’d love them to try to force him to retire and claw the money back. For a team that loves to parade it’s former stars around, you can say goodbye to that (see Calvin Johnson & Barry Sanders). It would also be funny see a Cal or Butte jersey in Aaron’s HOF locker instead of a Packers jersey.

    All this drama because the guy wants to end his career on his terms and timeline. Something that EVERY employee that ever worked anywhere would love to do.

  23. This era of rich babies that play a game for millions isn’t going to help the popularity. Send the guy OUT THE DOOR!

  24. chickensalad43 says:
    May 6, 2021 at 10:17 am
    The cap space GB would save with Rodgers retiring doesn’t touch the assets they could acquire in a trade. It would be ridiculous to let the reigning MVP leave your team for nothing, but as a Bears fan it wouldn’t bother me one bit.

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    You missed the whole point of the article.

    They are in fact NOT letting him “leave for nothing”.

    Per the article, he would not leave, but rather be forced to play or retire- retiring would cost him 30 million- paid to GB and will credit toward their cap. 30 million is not nothing in my world.

  25. The Packers let a lot of people walk and get nothing in return. That is one big difference between them and other teams, they love not paying someone da money and letting them go elsewhere and then getting some stupid very late round comp pick. Nothing is gaine except their bottom line, they keep their money.
    That is the Packer Org. Cheap ball galore.
    No for sure they already know there options and its to have him retire and give back the money. No way they trade him. There is no money in it for them.

  26. Having lived through this with Favre, this is all smoke screen anyway. The worse case scenario happened, the Packers Legend went to their most hated rival, beat them in Lambeau, beat them in MN, and after a first round exit in the playoffs sat on their couches and watched their QB guide the Vikings deep into the playoffs. But what happened?

    Favre (with the help of 1000 fumbles by Adrian Peterson), Favre’d them right out of a Superbowl appearance with a cross body throw to the Saints that was the kind of recklessness that made the Packers want to move on from him in the first place.

    And then the next year, with the Vikings completely historically imploding as only the Vikings can, the Packers won the Superbowl.

    They’ve been down this road before. It was a bit rocky, but it wasn’t the end of the world like they thought it was going to be. This time is no different.

  27. No way he retires. If he does the narrative falls entirely out of his hands, and he can’t have that.

  28. It doesn’t matter where Rodgers play, he isn’t going to win another Super Bowl.

  29. I’m sure they want to wait and see how Jordan is coming along first. Forcing him to retire or play in Green Bay is the best option.

  30. stellarperformance says:

    May 6, 2021 at 10:39 am

    I’d like to move on. I really don’t care how insulted Rodgers may have been, not any more. Holding a grudge is one thing. Burning the building down because of ego issues is another altogether. Why can’t the punishment fit the crime? Why, when the assault was a peashooter, is the response a cannon? I’m ready for Jordan Love and if he fails his first year, well, so what. So did Rodgers.
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    That’s easy to say when it’s happening to someone else. How would you feel and react if at work tomorrow they introduce you to the new employee they brought in to replace you even though you dont want to leave and your then on a day to day basis waiting for them to replace you, if you had leverage to get somewhere else that you feel they actually wanted you, would you not do the same? That’s exactly what I thought…

  31. The worst scenario for the Packers is he comes back and has a serious of nagging, but hard to diagnose injuries and the team is hamstrung for years because of the cap. The worst scenario for Brian is if he comes back and has the same season he had last year and we’re right back where we’re at now and Gutie looks like an idiot again.

    Remember it was ego that started this, but not Rodgers ego. This situation belongs to Gutie. Rodgers could have done some things differently, but Gutie caused it.

  32. What if Rodgers goes back to ‘sulking Rodgers’ and throwing worm balls like he did in 2018 to get McCarthy fired?

  33. All he needs to do is ask the producers of Jeopardy for a $29.8 million signing bonus, and this little problem is solved. He can move on to Career 2.0.

  34. of course they prefer retirement. they’re a nasty lot treating one the best in the history of the league like this. Goddell really needs to step in here.

  35. Rogers is 37 & turns 38 in December…..
    I’d trade him to an AFC team for a huge haul( 2-1sts, 2-2nds -3rd) spread out over a 3 year period….
    Who cares what he does elsewhere, I’d rather move forward with people that want to be there & not deal with the drama & distraction he’d bring with him….. If it’s the Doncos though, I want them to give up 3-1sts in addition to the other pics listed above….

  36. Rodgers may not be speaking because everything he had to say has been said and it’s between him and the Packers. The Packers have a business to run. They’ll do whatever they think is right for the team, not the player. They’re not perfect and they make mistakes. Who doesn’t? Rodgers doesn’t? Please.

  37. “Here’s the most important factor: If Rodgers retires, Murphy never can be proven wrong.”

    He may not be proven wrong, but he will certainly be the fall guy everyone blames for allowing this rift to develop and fester, ultimately leading to the Rodgers’ early retirement and the closure of their championship window.

  38. I’ll bet New England wished Tom Brady would have retired. It’s tough to see a guy go to a losing team and win the super bowl, while your team failed to make the playoffs after years of success. I doubt it would go over well if Rodgers left for another team and won the super bowl. If they had confidence in Love, they wouldn’t be insecure about it. Maybe that’s why this has become so awkward. The team chose to replace Rodgers, then he went out and had an MVP year. Now they look like they’re stumbling and bumbling, but at the same time, trying to make it look like Rodgers is the one causing the commotion. Lol. We’d never fall would that trick, would we?

  39. “Show up or retire”, the Packers are holding the dominant cards for sure. Welcome to the NFL Aaron where you’re a millionaire without a lot of control.

  40. What is the monetary value of draft picks? Would 2 or even 3 first round picks be worth $45 million? If you could get a top tier QB, it would be, but that’s highly unlikely. There’s no sure thing in the draft, plus any team acquiring #12 is likely to be giving up picks in the 20’s or worse. The only answer that isn’t LOSE/LOSE for the Pack is somehow appeasing A Rodg.

  41. Aaron Rodgers isn’t going to retire and leave that much money on the table–not to mention the money that he would have to pay back. The team has the leverage, but the real question is whether or not they want a miserable Rodgers playing for them. As far as Jeopardy as concerned– would they really want to deal with Aaron?

  42. So, trading him and getting something in return would be risky but having him retire and getting absolutely nothing would keep Murphy’s job safe somehow? Either scenario will come down to who the fans blame. If they blame Rodgers, Murphy is safe either way. But if they blame the Packers Murphy is in hot water either way but looks FAR worse if he can’t get some valuable commodities in return via a trade.

  43. The money means nothing if your team gets zero actual return (draft capital) for Rodgers. You can’t buy draft picks with $29.8 million. And, no, free agents are not going to go there after the team forces the guy to retire out of spite. Awful advice.

  44. Not a Packers fan or shareholder, but I would be more upset at losing a big trade haul then the team saving $30 million. If they get a Hershel Walker like trade package for a disgruntled prima donna, then they should take it!

  45. Jordan Love didn’t even suit up for most games last year. He’s a bust and an indictment of the “brain trust” that runs the Packers. If they need a QB other than A-Aron, they’ll need to trade for one (and give up quite a bit to get a starter who won’t fall on his face).

  46. Not sure I understand your Logic Mike, by saying the best option is to tell Rodgers to show up or retire. Even though Aaron is 38, you can still get great value for him. For a team that barely spends in free agency and loves to draft its player, why would you prefer to let the guy who would bring in oodles of picks sit at home just because you don’t see him win elsewhere? This is a business, and the moment you make it personal, you lose. Rodgers could also choose to unretire, show up in week 2, pass the physical, pretend he has a hamstring injury, sit on the bench and collect his money. So, if the Packers didn’t want a 12 Million QB in Favre, I am sure they wouldn’t want a 30 million QB on the bench in Rodgers. Trade the man and be done.

  47. The one real card GB is holding is Love. By continually stating that they won’t trade Rodgers it looks more and more like Love is not a NFL caliber QB and Murphy’s GM and coach wasted picks when they could have drafted defense and maybe were competitive against the Bucs with their draft picks instead of having a 1st round clipboard holder when their current QB is having a MVP season.

    The problem with Aaron showing up is there is no way the coaches can trust him to actually play the game the way they want. GB’s best option is to unload there near 38 year old QB for whatever picks, using the money to load the roster around there trade-up 1st round draft pick Love…unless of course Love isn’t that good.

  48. If the reports are true that the 49ers offered the #3 pick in the draft and the Packers declined Murphy is going to be in big trouble no matter what unless he mend fences with Rodgers.

  49. First, if Murphy has an character at all, which I believe he does, he will do what’s in the best interest of the organization and not himself — and that is trying to gain some on-the-field benefit from this fiasco by obtaining draft picks via trade. Second, how many people have had a job where they didn’t respect their superiors and want to leave? Ultimately, Rodgers isn’t that much different than any regular shmoe, other than being a major public figure. It happens with every team and its players, and the Pack is no exception despite some cheesers believing Green Bay is some sort of nirvana.

  50. I think they’d rather he just shut up and play, but we all know everything is now out in the open. It’s already awkward. So, if he’s not going to be traded to the Redskins, Dolphins, or Raiders, he should retire. No, I’m not including the Broncos. That team is an absolute mess.

  51. One year ago Brian Gutekunst decided to trade up for a new QB when he already had a good one because he thought he was the smartest kid in the room and didn’t think anything could go wrong. Future GMs will hopefully take notes on how not to be a GM.

  52. If GB were going to trade Rodgers, they already blew it. The Niners had the most to offer, but that ship has sailed.

  53. Are the Packers a legit SB contender the next 2 or 3 years with Rodgers? Yes.
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    IF they hit on all their defensive picks? MAYBE.

    Rodgers just had a career-type year, and everything aligned perfectly… and they couldn’t get there.

    I highly doubt the stars align again.

  54. Rodgers won’t win a superbowl with another team for at least a couple years, if at all. He takes way to long to develop rhythm with new WRs.

  55. Murphy’s job is to make the team better. Letting Rodgers sit out when he could get multiple first round picks + players doesn’t make Green Bay better.

  56. Mike you and most of your audience is forgetting something very important. The Packers organization and Mark Murphy don’t want the reputation that the Detriot Lions had when they refused to trade Barry Sanders. Can you imagine the stain the Packers will have for many years for not allowing a player to leave? Maybe to some people it doesn’t make a team look bad, but history I think would make the Packers organization look tyrannical imo.

  57. Aaron Rodgers and two first round picks for Derek Carr, fair for everyone
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    Aaron Rodgers for two first round picks and Derek Carr. Palatable for GB and a steal for LV.

    Fixed it for you.

  58. Rodgers won’t win a superbowl with another team for at least a couple years, if at all. He takes way to long to develop rhythm with new WRs.
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    He wouldn’t need rhythm with an unstoppable force like DK Metcalf

    (not going to happen.. just stating the obvious..)

  59. It looks for all the world like Rodgers has a limited understanding of who he really is.

    He’s not a gameshow host (sorry, no, he didn’t “crush it” on Jeopardy; he was “not bad for a football player,” but if you watched other candidates do it, it was a much smoother ride with almost all of them).

    Nor does he have the kind of easy personality that will ensure him any sort of life in front of the camera after football, Hollywood wife notwithstanding.

    And he also seems to have forgotten that he was once in the same position that Jordan Love is now. He also seems to have forgotten that before the Packers lit a fire under him by drafting Jordan Love, he strung together a few seasons that strongly suggested he was in steady decline.

    So, yes, he’s a QB with market value because of a well-earned reputation and a good most recent season.

    But he needs to be careful. He has put himself out there in a few ways that might not work out the way he expects. What then?

  60. Did the Packers not have an end game in mind in the first place? Drafting Love put the whole chain of events in motion to move on from Rodgers. They were never going to let Love sit on the bench for more than two years. It doesn’t work that way with first-round quarterbacks anymore. You draft them to play, not to watch and learn, especially when you trade up for them. So Rodgers unexpectedly had a great year last year and now the Packers want him back. Well, it’s too late for that now, so just put your plan in place that you formulated last year. They were always going to trade Rodgers at some point because they wanted to move on and they can get good compensation for him. I don’t know why you would give up that trade compensation just because you’re afraid of looking bad. You’re going to look bad no matter what you do.

  61. The Packers won’t win a Superbowl, even with Rodgers. The Niners have shown that when healthy, they own the Packers, especially in the playoffs.

    Having said that. There is NO WAY that Rodgers holds out or retires, and loses $30 Million dollars.

  62. The Packers don’t want to make a decision until after June 1st. I believe if they trade him after that date they get a saving on his contract. So some free CAP money.

  63. Both the star QB and the team can injure the other side’s interests, and Rodgers and the Packers management seem to want to continue working together. Now both sides need to stop just hinting about what they want and instead lay out their priorities more clearly. Have Rodgers and Murphy discuss these issues face to face so they can move beyond all this distant, passive, unspoken mutual hostility stage.

  64. I think there’s a third option for Rodgers, that your article does not consider:

    If the Packers “Call his bluff” he can return the favor by calling that bluff… He can show up to the facility and give a poor effort, fail to learn and execute. If you think he’s stubborn enough to retire or force a trade, then he’s for sure stubborn enough to show up, play the class clown, and force the coach’s hand.

  65. It’s hilarious to hear Packer Fans saying they have a Super Bowl caliber roster. If you are a 5 win team without Rodgers, that means you don’t have a Super Bowl
    Caliber roster. Just a super bowl caliber QB. The 2016 Denver Broncos went 9-7 and could’ve easily gone 11-5..that was with Trevor Simiean and Paxton Lynch at QB..Now that is called a super bowl caliber roster. Or even the Saints winning with Taysom Hill and Bridgewater

  66. Not trading Rodgers just to save face is not the best thing for this football team, and adds more fuel to the idea that the front office hasn’t done much with two hall of fame quarterbacks giving 30 consecutive years of stability to that position. And oh boy, won’t it be fun to listen to those interview Rodgers gives to selected media. The 30 million? Rodgers will just take that out of petty cash.

  67. I think there’s a third option for Rodgers, that your article does not consider:

    If the Packers “Call his bluff” he can return the favor by calling that bluff… He can show up to the facility and give a poor effort, fail to learn and execute. If you think he’s stubborn enough to retire or force a trade, then he’s for sure stubborn enough to show up, play the class clown, and force the coach’s hand.
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    Theres a 4th option;

    Favre it. Retire. Let the Packers sign a few players. Return, and wreck the Packers salary cap. Either Rodgers, or other players have to go.

    .. I don’t think his ego would allow him to show up and tank deliberately.

  68. We got 3 first rounders chillin’ right now. The one we got from the bears could be a top 5 pick if fields bombs. Gutekunst needs to look out for his shareholders instead of himself and better the packers, not his legacy. Take the picks, use them right and he can have that team rebuilt for the long haul pretty quick.

  69. I can’t speak for all New England fans but I’m glad Brady didn’t retire. I’m glad the front office reworked his contract so that he could become a free agent. It was the classy way of handling things. They could have refused or tried to trade him for picks. Fortunately it was resolved without ugliness. This Packers situation is the opposite of all that.

  70. The Packers won’t win a Superbowl, even with Rodgers. The Niners have shown that when healthy, they own the Packers, especially in the playoffs.
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    If you count the Kaepernick game… which was almost a decade ago.

    So do I get to count Holmgrens total ownership of Steve Young?

  71. thebigzero says:
    May 6, 2021 at 11:56 am
    I think there’s a third option for Rodgers, that your article does not consider:

    If the Packers “Call his bluff” he can return the favor by calling that bluff… He can show up to the facility and give a poor effort, fail to learn and execute….
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    Do you think Rodgers is such a jerk that he would be willing to alienate his teammates as well?

    I actually think he might be, just not sure if anyone agrees with me.

  72. Aaron Rodgers and two first round picks for Derek Carr, fair for everyone

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    Derek Carr is the worst cold weather QB in the entire league. Green Bay will want nothing to do with him.

  73. Am I the only person surprised Rodgers does *not* have a no-trade clause? That seems like oversight by his agent, as they could ship him anywhere. Negotiated for money, but not very well for terms.

  74. THe Niners roster is about the same or better than two years ago when they embarrassed the Packers in the playoffs. Why would anyone expect anything different this year? The Packers are essentially the same team as 2 years ago.

  75. I can’t see the comments which is great, but here is what the reality is:

    The Packers are not trading Aaron and that is set in stone already. Ok, so Aaron either plays for the Packers or retires. Anyone who knows Aaron will laugh in your face if say you think he will retire.

    It has been reported that Shailene Woodley was in on the talks when the Packers flew out to speak to Aaron. Shailene is a activist. She gathers spring water, makes her own toothpaste, and creates her own medicines. This girl is not some Hollywood high maintenance glam queen. Shailene is not pushing Aaron to leave Green Bay. Actually, word is that she wants Aaron to remain a Packer. She likes the thought of little Green Bay against the world.

    #OneTeamOneNation

    #PackerNation!✊

  76. I think AR is smart enough not to screw himself as much as he would screw the Pack. He has multiple options to give the Pack nightmares, it all depends on how much fan rejection he can stand. Heck, he could show up, have the worst year possible, throw a ton of INTs citing mental stress, be benched, not really play and collect all the cash. AR IS financially stable, he has already made millions and Shailene hasn’t done too badly either – yes he could forgo the cash – though I think he is more interested in sticking it to Pack management than collecting. Ultimately, if he goes the route of reporting but not playing much, Murphy & Gute will HAVE to excise the boil and trade him. Like I said, he will be a Saint, Bronco’s don’t have the means and wouldn’t it be nice to directly face off with Ryan and Brady twice a year!

  77. Rodgers may be highly skilled at playing QB but we Packer fans know his makeup. He never was a true leader and tanking to get McCarthy fired was the proof even a casual fan could see. Yes Mike was stale and stubborn but players that undermine the coach and his teammates is a major cancer.

  78. Aaron is supposedly worth 120M. I cant imagine he is going to give 30M back to the organization, 1/4 of his net worth and likely almost all of his liquid assets. He is going to report and play.

  79. Sure, if Rodgers retires than Murphy cannot be proven wrong, but he will be remembered as the guy who pushed the most talented passer the NFL has ever seen into early retirement less than a year removed from winning an MVP. Letting a disgruntled employee who is undervalued pursue success elsewhere is what a good leader would do. Forcing him into retirement is what a petty, egocentric, and inept leader would do. Murphy needs to decide what kind of leader he wants to be remembered as.

  80. I’m a WFT fan and can tell you from experience…spite is not a strategy.

    (Nor is it an acceptable reason to return a jacket you purchased from a store.)

  81. I think the Packers are playing this correctly for a simple reason, Rodger’s ego.

    His ego will never allow him to mail it in because that would validate the Love draft pick. The same thing with retiring. As much as he wants to stick it to the Packers, his whole identity relies on him being the best and playing.

    Keep in mind that Aaron hasn’t said anything publicly. He doesn’t have a statement to walk back if the Packers keep him and will just play it off as the media blowing up minor disagreements.

    The king of passive/aggressive.

  82. I’ve never been a fan of Rodgers, and usually I side against the player when it comes to these types of situations, but for some reason I’m sympathetic to Rodgers on this one. Like I’ve rooted against the guy his whole career and called him over-rated, but when the rubber hits the road, he is one of the truly special talents in this league, and I really think he deserves to be treated with a little more loyalty by his employer. I think any guy who’s been the face of a franchise for a decade plus and poured his guts into trying to succeed does, which to me is a lot different than some kid who’s been in the league for 4 years, never won anything, and wants out just after getting paid.

  83. No way Rodgers pays ANY money back to the Packers. He’s going to sit out until the end of pre season and then the Packers will decide what they are going to do. Rodgers plays for the name on the back of the jersey anyway.

  84. He will be 45 million sitting on the bench with sore arm if they try and play hardball with him. Just try and outsmart AA and you won’t get anything in return plus he will make sure he will make his way back to the Vikings to finish job Favre was supposed to do!

  85. Sunday Swami says:
    May 6, 2021 at 10:51 am
    That’s easy to say when it’s happening to someone else. How would you feel and react if at work tomorrow they introduce you to the new employee they brought in to replace you even though you dont want to leave and your then on a day to day basis waiting for them to replace you, if you had leverage to get somewhere else that you feel they actually wanted you, would you not do the same? That’s exactly what I thought…
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    With two years to go before retirement and after working executive sales for forty years, the company suddenly hired two salespeople to replace me and asked if I could introduce them to my clients and train them. I did it gladly and willingly and retired on schedule. The company is doing great and I couldn’t be more pleased, but then again I’m a company-man, not a me-first guy.

  86. Rodgers just wants what the Packers wanted. It was obvious they wanted him out when they:
    Leaked the “Dont be the problem” Story.
    Rodgers talked about playing past 40 and retiring a Packer, GB used the 1st + 4th on Love.
    Then with the NFC championship on the line, they took the ball out of his hands.

    But somehow Rodgers is the bad guy?

  87. Those saying that Rodgers has another option, which is showing up, but playing poorly…….NOT A CHANCE IN THE WORLD.

    If there is one thing that is important to Rodgers, it’s his legacy. There is no way that he tanks on purpose, ruining his stats and wasting a precious year.

  88. I say Let the cry baby sit out or retire or whatever. We all know that the Packers would be dead in the water without Rodgers. They wanted Jordan Love so bad, Play him and get it over with. Either way Packers are in deep doo doo. The one man band concept is over

  89. NFC East: ‘We’re the worst division in the NFL.’

    *Rodgers traded to Denver*
    NFC North: ‘Hold my bratwurst.’

  90. See i dont see this as forcing the Packers hand. This is a Aaron Rodgers driven situation. The Packers seem to want him to be their QB – and dont want to be forced into doing something they dont want to. Its a dangerous precedent. Next time someone is disgruntled in GB, they use the Rodgers playbook – and force their way out of town.

    So here are the options. You aren’t getting traded. You willingly signed this contract – and can live with the terms of it, or you can retire. What i will say about Rodgers, where i do think he is passive aggressive, i don’t think he would ever tank it on the playing field.

    Just because Rodgers feels slighted doesnt mean that the team needs to change anything.

  91. Really persuaded by the “Jordan Love is a bust” comments. Good grief. Kid gets drafted with no choice in the matter, enters the NFL in a pandemic with ZERO preseason games, and some faction is declaring his career failed. Nobody knows how successful he will be at this point. Nobody. Whenever and whenever he gets on the field, in a few months or a couple years, I’ll root for his success.

  92. Mark Murphy, Packers President, is currently 65 years old. Not saying he is ready to retire, but you would expect him to hang it up in the next 2 or 3 years anyway. He will go the trade route. If it backfires, he won’t be around long anyway. And he would literally take one for the team by retiring, is my guess. The Packers have won a SB and created a lot revenue streams under his watch.

    Ed Policy, (Carmen Policy’s son from the 49’ers front office) is waiting in the wings at GB to take over for Mark Murphy.

  93. Ya’ll drastically over value draft picks. First round picks have a 50% failure rate. And look at some of the first round QBs taken in that round since 2010: Rosen, Haskins, Johnny Football, Trubisky, Brady Quinn, EJ Manuel, Blaine Gabbert, Winston (#1 overall), Blake Bortles. These are human beings that professional football people handed the keys of their franchise to.

    Its hard to get a QB. And when you find one you hold on for dear life.

  94. I have never head someone refer to themselves as a “company man” in a complimentary sense. Uhhh… Congratulations???

  95. radar8 says:
    Those saying that Rodgers has another option, which is showing up, but playing poorly…….NOT A CHANCE IN THE WORLD.

    If there is one thing that is important to Rodgers, it’s his legacy. There is no way that he tanks on purpose, ruining his stats and wasting a precious year.
    —————-
    Didnt he tank already to get rid of Mike McCarthy?

  96. Let’s just look at the bottom line here:
    -Let him retire and the organization gets nothing in compensation.
    -Trade him and get a boatload of 1st day draft capital and potentially quality starters.

    Seems like a pretty easy decision if you’re interested in the health of the franchise.

    And in regards to another post, no you’re not a company-man. You’re a doormat.

  97. If I were Green Bay, here’s how I’d handle it:

    There have been reports of mutual interest between Rodgers and Vegas, so I’d offer him to the Raiders for Carr, Waller and some combination of high draft picks.

    If the Raiders bite, the Packers get significant value for the 37-year-old Rodgers (a soon-to-be quickly depreciating asset with the highest possible value right now) and an underrated quarterback in return (some of the Carr stats from the last couple seasons, such as third down metrics, are pretty impressive), and they remain contenders in the NFC.

    Rodgers lands on a team with a different offensive system, that just inexplicably decimated its offensive line, that has questionable depth at receiver, and that has a shaky-at best defense: in the same division as Patrick Mahomes and his Kansas City Chiefs. That team is not a contender, and the best the Raiders could hope for in the short-term after a trade like that is to scrap for a wild card.

    So in this scenario, the Packers get good value, and Rodgers is not in a position to make them look bad.

  98. Packers have $3.5MM in salary cap space. Good luck getting even a mediocre QB on that amount.

  99. Can he not act like Jalen Ramsey and force his way out? Get paid while feigning injury. That’s what I would do.

  100. Ummmm….has anybody mentioned that Rodgers could hold out for as long as possible, then report as late as possible to get his entire paycheck, but also just go through the motions and become a complete cancer to the team? Yes, Rodgers could actually play so badly, or audible on every single down, so that the Packers would have to bench him, or cut him, or trade him.

  101. I’d like the NFL to change the salary cap hit when it comes to a trade. If another team wants to assume a contract, why can’t that happen without cap hit issues?

  102. radar8 says:
    May 6, 2021 at 12:43 pm
    Those saying that Rodgers has another option, which is showing up, but playing poorly…….NOT A CHANCE IN THE WORLD.

    If there is one thing that is important to Rodgers, it’s his legacy.
    ////////
    Well, you don’t know him. And neither do I. But from all appearances over the years, I’d say the one thing that is important to Rodgers is…..Aaron Rodgers.

  103. “Didnt he tank already to get rid of Mike McCarthy?”

    No, he got in a pissing match. He changed plays on the fly. It caused confusion and poor play by the offense. The worst part…younsters were caught between facing the rath of Rodgers or MM by not running the play as it was called

  104. The people defending Aaron Rodgers is ridiculous.

    First of all, Jordan Love is actually cheaper than some backup QBs in the league. Would Rodgers have preferred less talent around him so they can pay Case Keenum $10M because he isn’t threatening?

    Secondly, teams should always take the best player available in the draft, no matter what position it is. If Kansas City somehow got the #1 pick this year they should have Trevor Lawrence as their backup QB or trade the pick for future ones. You should always look for the most value you can get.

    Now, they need to have their heads examined for thinking Love was worthy of a 1st round pick, but if they thought he was the best player on the board, why would you reach for another slot? We all would do the exact same thing in our fantasy leagues.

    But the biggest point is that teams should always prepare for the future. The Packers don’t owe it to Rodgers to be bad for a few years after he leaves because they are developing a new quarterback. They should have one ready to go as soon as his time is up.

    Honestly, Rodgers sitting out might be the best thing for them. Throw Jordan Love out there and see what he can do. If he plays well, you can trade Rodgers and you’re set for the next 5 years. If he doesn’t, you’ll get a high draft pick and can either work things out with Rodgers or trade him and get your new QB.

  105. whywerule says:
    May 6, 2021 at 12:06 pm
    thebigzero says:
    May 6, 2021 at 11:56 am
    I think there’s a third option for Rodgers, that your article does not consider:

    If the Packers “Call his bluff” he can return the favor by calling that bluff… He can show up to the facility and give a poor effort, fail to learn and execute….
    ——————————————————————————-

    Do you think Rodgers is such a jerk that he would be willing to alienate his teammates as well?
    ////////
    Yes. Absolutely. Without a doubt. His entire family does not speak to him. Former players have outright said he’s a colossal jerk. It’s actually quite difficult to find anybody that actually likes the man. Current teammates do not count, as they are afraid he will get them cut.

  106. As much as I’m enjoying all of this as a Vikings fan, I’m not sure I buy the logic of this. If any of the following happens, the front office still looks terrible:

    1) Love doesn’t pan out
    2) Lance pans out (49ers drafted him with a pick they dangled to the Pack along with other assets)
    3) Either Jones or Fields pans out (Packers could have either of them instead of Lance, and hindsight will lead fans to think they OBVIOUSLY would’ve chosen the right one)

  107. Walking away from 45 million dollars because your boss hurt your feelings. Unreal.

  108. dejadoh says:

    May 6, 2021 at 10:51 am

    I see a trade to Dallas

    ———-
    I see someone who doesn’t understand the salary cap, the dead cap hit Dallas would take or the fact McCarthy and Rodgers cant stand each other.

  109. The only question remaining is when will Rodgers cross the line to get hit with “Conduct Detrimental to the Team.”

    That could fix some of their cap issues, force him to pay back some of his salary, and still hold his rights. He seems to be getting closer and closer by the day.

  110. IF the Rams offered the Stafford deal for Rodgers, Gutekunst is a fool to have turned it down.

    IF he turned the 9ers away, having offered the #3 pick, Gutekunst is a fool.

    IF they hope he’ll retire, getting nothing for him, they’re more hopelessly inept than I possibly imagined.

  111. I see someone who doesn’t understand the salary cap, the dead cap hit Dallas would take or the fact McCarthy and Rodgers cant stand each other.
    ==========

    Its surreal, isn’t it??!

    Hey, maybe the Packers trade Rodgers for Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey?!

  112. Mark Murphy, Packers President, is currently 65 years old. Not saying he is ready to retire, but you would expect him to hang it up in the next 2 or 3 years anyway. He will go the trade route. If it backfires, he won’t be around long anyway. And he would literally take one for the team by retiring, is my guess. The Packers have won a SB and created a lot revenue streams under his watch.
    ==========

    Murphy took over a situation where it was virtually impossible for him to fail.

    How many of the construction projects did Harlan author? Most of them, I’d bet.

    And Harlan hired the staff responsible for that Super Bowl.

    Allowing the Favre situation to repeat itself is catastrophic failure.

  113. Hey, maybe the Packers trade Rodgers for Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey?!

    And the packers lose every game 3-0

  114. It CONTINUES to amaze me that even Packers fans simply don’t realize how much better Rodgers makes this team.

    Seriously, he adds at LEAST 4 wins a year (if not more) to this team.

    He is THAT good.

    So, please, stop with the conjecture that the Packers would be anywhere NEAR as good they are with AR without him.

    They are an 8-8 team or 9-7 team without him.

    His offense even makes a defense look BETTER than it it really is.

    Take him off this team, and I GUARANTEE they win NO more than 9 games the following season.

  115. good bye. he will never win another superbowl. make him retire and write a check for 30 million back to the packers.

  116. rodgers should retire and get a job as a GM. hes wasting his football genius being a QB

  117. youpassbutter says:
    May 6, 2021 at 1:05 pm

    Ya’ll drastically over value draft picks. First round picks have a 50% failure rate.
    ________

    Even higher if the Packers are doing the drafting. Gutey should ask for four first-round picks in hopes of hitting on one.

  118. No one is bigger than the game, no one!

    And no one is more important than the team, no one!

    Rodgers needs to learn that, PERIOD!

  119. trade him to the texans… theyll give you their first rounders for the next 4 years.
    .
    even the packers can find a good player there

  120. Sorry solution: play for the Packers or retire you bum!! Your paid to play and under contract so quit whining about everything and play! It’s his best chance to get back to another SB with the outstanding draft they had!! Or retire as your not playing for anyone else and lose out on over 40 million! Simple!

  121. Rodgers can aways ur-retire just to go another team once his rights with GB has expired.

  122. Rodgers has about 3-4 years left as a top five quarterback so it seems to me that Green Bay could extend his contract three years and agree to give him a heads up about future draft picks. They do not have to agree to give him any power about picks other than listening to his opinion.

    Rodgers has less of a chance of reaching the Super Bowl with a new team while the Packers have reached the NFC conference game the past two years and have a good chance of reaching the Super Bowl in the next three years with Rodgers on the team.

  123. This is a terrible take. Murphy’s job is to do what’s best for the Packers organization now and more importantly, the future. It’s obvious that the Packers plan is to move on from Rodgers after next season so the right call is for Murphy to maximize assets to help the team going forward, not to personally “save face” by forcing Rodgers to retire. The cap space saved is the same and the money Rodgers would pay back pales to the bounty of picks/players the team would receive in terms of helping the team succeed on the field. As a Viking fan, I hope he does retire and the Packers get nothing but if that is a legit option by Murphy then he’s not doing his job and should be replaced.

  124. Rodgers holding grudges is mostly news media fodder.

    There’s PFT articles going back years talking about rodgers holding grudges against Mike McCCarthy before he became the packers coach. Yet he coached him for 10 years and they won a super bowl.

    He held another legendary grudge against farve for coming out of retirement or some such- a player who wasn’t even on his team and he had no reason to interact with.

    Rodgers is comfortable with two things… 1) leakings or fanning stories that portray himself as a brat and 2) not actually doing anything about it.

    Case in point, rodgers has been signing multi-year extensions long before he ever had to. If there were truth to these stories (and/or if he actually took his childish feelings seriously), he’d use the leverage he had in past situations.

    He has never done this, and so he has no real leverage today besides retirement.

  125. The downside to this strategy is that your cap room is forever his hostage. If you ever let your cap room get smaller than his hit if he returns, he can unretire and force a cut or trade.

    So it is all very well to say “it is different, we would use him”. But in practice that still has a drag in the product you can put on the field.

    Not to mention, it also indicates the impression that you swung and missed on Love and he is disposable, which is a bad look when making that move helped create the problem in the first place.

  126. Rodgers won’t win a superbowl with another team for at least a couple years, if at all. He takes way to long to develop rhythm with new WRs.
    ==========

    Ummm, what about Tom Brady?

  127. Retiring will cost Rodgers $14 million in compensation he would have gotten this year and he would have to write the Packers a check for $11.5 million to cover the portion of his signing bonus related to the new NFL contract year.

    Is his checkbook as big as his mouth?

  128. Footballfan1967 says:
    May 13, 2021 at 8:49 am

    Rodgers won’t win a superbowl with another team for at least a couple years, if at all. He takes way to long to develop rhythm with new WRs.
    ==========

    Ummm, what about Tom Brady?

    =============

    Rodgers is no Tom Brady. Not even in the zip code.

  129. Can you imagine all the 1st round receivers the Packers could pass on after their haul from an A-Rod trade?

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