Is Aaron Rodgers laying the foundation to return to the Packers?

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It’s still unknown what Aaron Rodgers wants from the Packers because he still hasn’t said what he wants publicly. Indeed, he hasn’t said anything about the current situation publicly.

There’s nevertheless reason to believe that Rodgers — who is sufficiently brilliant to be presumed to have a plan — has been using other ways to send messages via the media. In recent days, for example, former teammates who have spoken with Rodgers have found their way to microphones with their characterizations of what Aaron wants. Obviously, if Aaron didn’t authorize guys like John Kuhn and James Jones to speak on the quarterback’s behalf, they risk landing on Rodgers’ personal sh-t list. (I’ve been there for more than a decade; like a hot bath, you get used to it.)

If that’s true, these former teammates could be laying the foundation for Rodgers to eventually yield in his desire to leave the Packers, given that the Packers aren’t inclined to grant his wish to be traded. And since it’s too late for Rodgers to personally put the toothpaste back in the toothpaste holder (not everyone says “tube,” as we learned this week on PFT PM), the next best thing could be using surrogates to gradually and persistently change the narrative.

Enter Kuhn, who appeared Wednesday on CBS Sports Radio. He outlined a path toward a resolution to the problem, and he pushed back against the prevailing belief that Rodgers wants out.

“I truly believe Aaron wants to come back to Green Bay, but he doesn’t want to do it on a lame-duck contract which, even though there’s three years on his contract if you really look at the terms of it, it pretty much sets up for a clean break at the end of the 2021 season for the Packers himself considering that Jordan Love is on a rookie salary,” Kuhn said. “So I think that he wants more insurance that he’s going to be a long-term starting quarterback option for the Green Bay Packers and that I believe is something that would intrigue him to make amends with the team and come back to this season.”

On Thursday, former Packers receiver James Jones appeared on NFL Network. He repeatedly called the situation between Rodgers and the Packers “fixable,” and that Jones doesn’t believe Rodgers will hold out.

If these messages take root, and there could be more in coming days from former or current Packers, a sense will emerge that the storm of reports from last week were overblown. Even if they weren’t. Even if Rodgers had every reason to knock them down on camera last weekend with Mike Tirico and declined to do so. Even if Rodgers left Tirico with the distinct impression that there is a “fissure” and a “chasm” between player and team.

The reality is that, if the Packers aren’t going to trade Rodgers, he has two options: Play for the Packers or play for no one (and give up nearly $30 million in unearned bonus money). He’s not inclined (obviously) to take his beef public personally, likely because he doesn’t want to become Public Enemy No. 1 in Green Bay. Unless and until he is, if he wants to play football, he’s going to have to play for the team for which he reportedly doesn’t want to play.

Enter players with whom he used to play, who can say enough to potentially soften the blow to his ego and pride that will happen when he shows up for work like Costanza the Monday after he quit.

69 responses to “Is Aaron Rodgers laying the foundation to return to the Packers?

  1. This matter is between the Green Bay Packers, Inc and Aaron and should remain private. Everything else is speculation

  2. Adam Schefters fault we are in this what will be pointless news cycle. No trades will happen, Rodgers will show up, likely get his new contract, and we will all have wasted weeks on this for no reason.

  3. If Aaron Rodgers retired tomorrow nobody will care. The NFL stops for no one and there are tons of great young Qb’s now starting. Plus the greatest of all time will be still be suiting up without any drama.

  4. Indeed, he hasn’t said anything about the current situation publicly.

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    Correct. And yet he’s been endlessly vilified by commenters on here because they somehow think they know Rodgers and what he thinks and what he wants. So much of this has been overblown and unverified and just malicious rumors. For example, he wants the GM fired? Oh, where and when did he say that?

    I think Rodgers has a right to be disgruntled with how GB has…uh…”built” the team around him. And yet they know that as soon as Rodger is gone they’ll be back at square one, because, you know, replacing the NFL MVP isn’t exactly easy.

    The reason so many teams are always shuffling QBs and continually searching is because finding a true franchise QB is very difficult.

  5. John Kuhn: “75% chance that Aaron Rodgers is the starting quarterback for the Packers this year.”

    Just the facts here. J-Love has a 25% chance to beat out A-Rod for the job in camp. See y’all in July. Will be fun.👍

    #GoPackGo!✊

  6. it was obvious all along. Rodgers loves the drama but he will ultimately return to the Packers and terrorize the NFC North for 3-4 more years and poor Jordan Love will likely make his first NFL start with a different team

  7. Of course he is. We’ve all been Roethlisberger’d.

    The narcissistic practice of leading people to believe you are leaving – just so you can marinate yourself in everyone saying how much they need you, then you say, ok I’ll come back for 1 year….and you do that the next 5-7 years.

  8. George Costanza and Aaron Rodgers seem equally neurotic. Costanza just lacks the huge ego.

  9. Makes perfect sense. He is on a below market deal ($25 mil for 2022 and 2023), with no guaranteed money, and without a no trade clause. Is there a better opportunity for the Packers to cash in and trade a 38 year old QB and scoop up a Stafford sized draft haul? Considering they already moved up to draft his replacement?

  10. It must be tough to really believe you are bigger than the team that pays you and your star power can influence your teams vital decisions only to be slammed down to earth by your team refusing your demands and putting team before star player.The Packers must stick to their guns on this feud with AR,every other team is watching in case one of their stars think they too are better than the team.

  11. The best thing Mr. Gameshow host could to right now is just shut up and keep balling. He will have plenty of chances to do other things when father time catches up with him.

  12. Rodgers is a great qb and good at jeopardy. Doesn’t mean he is the world’s smartest man. His massive ego blunts his iq

  13. I am sure the groveling Packer’s would take him back no questions asked. Even Crumbs Gute would not say a word.

  14. I prefer to see Rodgers back. If the packers trade him they would get multiple picks and players. Would rather beat the packers with Rodgers.

  15. Cool so it is and always has been the money. Can we move on now? Why are we always doing this with Packers QBs?

  16. One thing for certain, Rodgers is and always has laid out the groundwork for ongoing drama.

  17. freefromwhatyouare says:
    May 7, 2021 at 10:46 am

    Just the facts here. J-Love has a 25% chance to beat out A-Rod for the job in camp. See y’all in July. Will be fun.👍
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    J-Love couldn’t beat out Tim Boyle last year and now this guy thinks he has a chance to beat out the reigning MVP? There’s a reason why the Packers don’t want to trade Rodgers. The only way the Packers give J-Love the starting job is if they’re forced into it.

  18. No, the Adam Schefter news doesn’t change a thing. There has been ongoing friction between Rodgers and the Packers for many years now. You can see it on his face every time they lose in the playoffs. Even if they don’t trade him, it wouldn’t be a surprise if he left on his own in the future. We’ll be having this same discussion next year, if he’s still there.

  19. Green Bay should make a Hershel Walker sized trade for Rodgers. I wonder if there are any teams (in purple) gullible enough to make that trade?

  20. Unless something out of the ordinary happens the first date to look for is June 1st. I believe GB would save CAP money if he was traded after that date. If no trade happens then I believe Rodgers has to retire or return to GB.

  21. I think a trade with the Broncos is a done deal as Mark Schlereth said. Neither team took a QB in the draft. The Packers are looking for at least one QB(Bridgewater or Lock) and the Broncos would like Rodgers.
    Both sides are waiting until after June 1 where a trade becomes easier from a cap standpoint.
    The Packers will take a cap hit, but not as bad as now. They would like the player and the draft picks.
    If the trade goes through, the Packers can dump Rodgers next March via trade.
    Rodgers might be realizing that the Packers hold most of the cards.
    The irony is the Packers with Rodgers have a very good chance of reaching deep into the playoffs, though the schedule this fall is very tough.

  22. Very recently, it’s leaked that GB may now be looking into signing another QB or two for OTAs/minicamp (so as not to be only J Love there) since Aaron has been repeatedly “saying” for months — in leaks of his own — that he doesn’t want to play for them anymore. Around this same time, two former teammates suddenly decide to give interviews saying Aaron loves GB & may potentially want to return. Don’t think it’s coincidence. Go ahead, GB, & call him on his attention-seeking threat to retire. Don’t trade him or give into his whiny demands. Make him play to his current contract, the extension terms of which he readily agreed to only a year or two ago.

  23. lgw91s says:
    May 7, 2021 at 11:03 am
    Makes perfect sense. He is on a below market deal ($25 mil for 2022 and 2023), with no guaranteed money, and without a no trade clause. Is there a better opportunity for the Packers to cash in and trade a 38 year old QB and scoop up a Stafford sized draft haul? Considering they already moved up to draft his replacement?

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    Aaron Rodgers current contract he signed was a 4 year $134,000,000 deal including a $57,500,000 signing bonus. That annualizes to 33.5 million per season. Just because he received more of the money on the front end of the deal, doesn’t mean that he is on a below market deal.

  24. If #12 is not happy that the Packers have the leverage, he should be looking squarely at his agent. He did pocket something like $67M or more in 2018 when he signed the current agreement, but the agreement clearly left him without guaranteed money for 2021 and beyond. Isn’t that kind of negotiating what you pay an agent for?

  25. It’s not relevant to the Rodgers discussion, but I’ve never heard “toothpaste holder”? Anyone who gets upset about toothpaste “tubes” and insists it’s toothpaste “holder” should consider spending their obsessive need to complain on something more constructive.

  26. Is it just me or is everyone else getting tired of hearing about these Dive QB’s who think they should be in control of every aspect of running the team?

  27. Logically, I don’t see where else he could go where he’d be treated any better. A team trading for him would have its own plan in place and be expecting him to be the missing piece to get them over the top. Nobody is going to trade for him then ask him what his plans are and then redo the whole franchise to his liking.

  28. This has become really simple, in my eyes, to fix. First, realize that if the Packers really thought Jordan Love could play now or in the future, they’d have traded Rodgers already. Here’s how to fix this: Extend/Restructure Rodgers contract to not only give Rodgers stability, but to give you the cap room for the second part of the fix – trade for Julio Jones. Lastly, trade Jordan Love for whatever you can get for him. Problem solved.

  29. I hear the fans are booing Rodgers if his name gets called out at other professional sports events, my friends that are old time true Packer fans are really sick and tired of his diva personality, there looking forward to cheering for a real football player that wants to play football and are in favor of letting Mr. Rodgers go to his new neighborhood. It’s time for “The Love of the Game” as they say. Go Packers!!!!

  30. This is his only option. He’ll get more and likely come up short again on the field. He’s great, but 1-4 in Championship games is not all on others…

  31. I wouldn’t be surprised if AR and Gute called a press conference, came out together and said “Gotcha”. The whole thing could be a hoax, a gigantic joke on everyone. AR seems like the type of guy who would enjoy that.

  32. Who else could call out the GM’s mismanagement, if not the MVP?
    You’d think Packer fans would be tired of fizzling out in the playoffs…apparently not.

  33. I’m sick of the narrative that GB hasn’t built around Rodgers.
    Alexander, Bahktiari, Adams, Clark, Z, Jones, Linsley are all top 10 at their position and only Linsley is gone heading into 2021. Bak,Adams might be top 1. Amos,Jenkins,Tonyan,Gary,Turner are all quality players that would have a spot on most rosters. The only positions GB is really soft is DE and CB2. There is a cap and they are playing Rodgers almost 40 million. What the hell else you want? Not to mention GB has 30 years of mostly bottom 10 picks. They haven’t had top 5 picks like the 49ers and others have to land impact players. You don’t win 26 games over 2 years with a crap roster.

  34. IT’s easy to see why some quarterbacks think that they should be included in management decisions.

    The quarterbacks are the highest paid employees in the organization (outside of the owners). They make more than the GM and more than the coach. Their high pay basically tells them that they must be the most important people in the organization, and as such should be part of decisions.

    How do you convince them otherwise? IF they are not the most important people in the organization, why do they get paid the most?

  35. It seems like even Adam Schefter is back-pedaling. All this commotion about nothing. I have a gut feeling Rodgers will be the starting QB in Green Bay on opening day and we’ll have to face him twice a year for many years to come.

  36. If Green Bay isn’t interested in adding guaranteed years to the contract then they should trade Rogers. They’ve drafted his replacement and poisoned the relationship by not telling him they were going to do that. If they aren’t committed to him beyond 2021 then his value should be used now to make the team better. Green Bay isn’t winning a Super Bowl with Rogers this year. They’ve screwed their drafts the last few years and there isn’t enough talent. I don’t see the point in keeping him when you loved this other QB so much you traded up to get him. Green Bay could turn Rogers into a lot of future draft capital.

  37. Maybe Rodgers got an email from Jeopardy saying that we prefer not to hire a guy who has in the past got his management fired(Mike McCarthy) and who continues to try to get his current management fired. Just not our business model

  38. Looks to me as if he’s playing the Packers and “Jerry Krause” like a fiddle. He’ll come back when he gets exactly what he wants, and I think both are very possible.

  39. Anyone who insists that toothpaste comes from a ‘holder” and not a tube is a person who cannot be trusted. With anything.

  40. Take both entities at their word. Rodgers doesn’t want to play for the GM. The GM says he’s not trading Rodgers. So Rodgers either rescinds
    his statements and plays for the Packers next year, or he retires.

    What’s next on the docket?

  41. What I dont get and it maybe went past me, why doesnt he just come back with his own idea that he plays next year and then he and them split amicably with a trade to somewhere else. Everyone wins unless he truely in his heart wants four more years in packerville then adios. Love’s contract becomes a big problemo that the Pack will have to deal with if they keep Rodgers for four more years. They cant pay two guys for the same job.

  42. Fear is a Liar says:
    May 7, 2021 at 11:33 am
    freefromwhatyouare says:
    May 7, 2021 at 10:46 am

    Just the facts here. J-Love has a 25% chance to beat out A-Rod for the job in camp. See y’all in July. Will be fun.👍
    ____________

    J-Love couldn’t beat out Tim Boyle last year and now this guy thinks he has a chance to beat out the reigning MVP? There’s a reason why the Packers don’t want to trade Rodgers. The only way the Packers give J-Love the starting job is if they’re forced into it.
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    Remember the covid-year? there was no training camp nor preseason for ALove to compete with Boyle. Word is that by season’s end Love was showing so much that GB gave Boyle his release even as Arod was already playing hard to get. Wouldn’t be surprised is AR12 was also seeing what coaches and teammates saw about Love as the covid season played out. Perhaps it may be one reason AR is acting a bit “touchy”?

  43. I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love don’t exchange Christmas cards.

  44. gw91s says:
    May 7, 2021 at 11:03 am

    Makes perfect sense. He is on a below market deal ($25 mil for 2022 and 2023), with no guaranteed money, and without a no trade clause.

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    It’s true he’s being paid $25 million in 2022 and 2023. But don’t forget he was paid $67 million in 2018 (massive signing bonus). If you’re comparing his deal with the market, you have to take into account the signing bonus as well.

  45. In regards to Kuhn’s comments. AR you are a great player. Now prove it. Go back, win it all come in second in MVP voting and then make them keep you. That is what you can do. You control how you play and that really will decide if they keep you or trade you.

  46. ImaFubar says:
    May 7, 2021 at 1:19 pm
    What I dont get and it maybe went past me, why doesnt he just come back with his own idea that he plays next year and then he and them split amicably with a trade to somewhere else. Everyone wins unless he truely in his heart wants four more years in packerville then adios. Love’s contract becomes a big problemo that the Pack will have to deal with if they keep Rodgers for four more years. They cant pay two guys for the same job.

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    This is what I don’t understand either. And really maybe it’s his cap number that he’s worried about he wants the Pack to extend him so he can make them huge dollars. If he’s threatened his play should do the talking but after 2021 he may be worried he gets traded due to his price tag not his play.

  47. phinjunky1985 says:
    May 7, 2021 at 12:56 pm
    If Green Bay isn’t interested in adding guaranteed years to the contract then they should trade Rogers. They’ve drafted his replacement and poisoned the relationship by not telling him they were going to do that. If they aren’t committed to him beyond 2021 then his value should be used now to make the team better. Green Bay isn’t winning a Super Bowl with Rogers this year. They’ve screwed their drafts the last few years and there isn’t enough talent. I don’t see the point in keeping him when you loved this other QB so much you traded up to get him. Green Bay could turn Rogers into a lot of future draft capital.

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    This reasoning is pure silly. They likely wanted something else and a high end QB fell to them. Take the guy, they may have called AR after you don’t know. At the end of the day they may keep him for 5 years on a rooks deal if AR plays well. The pats were about to pay Gorapalo what 17 mil to ride the pine before that went sideways.

    Gute to AR: Yeah AR I was working on a trade up but thought dam I had better stop that and call you to make sure you can deal with us taking a QB that is falling? YOu ok with that? no dam, well there is not a good value WR here:)

    Be on the other side pal. GM’s run teams they pick the best picks they believe in. And a good GM should have a plan for succession at most positions. Draft them a year early vs a year late.

  48. Aaron can plead temporary insanity. Gutey can promise not to draft any more first round QBs.

    Works for me.

  49. Rodgers will be back to boos. Win, and all will be forgiven. Lose, and the Packer fans will boot him and his ego out of town.

  50. Maybe everyone should just shut up about it and let Rodgers and the Packers deal with it.He hasnt said anything.

  51. To those who think this episode will signal a spasm of player rebellion across the league, understand that there are very few in the NFL in a position to carry on like NBA stars- namely the 6 or so quarterbacks in the league who are irreplaceable; and all the more so with Rodgers as he was the MVP last season. There limits to what a team would accept from a diva wide receiver or a Ryan Tannehill, if he decided one day to become James Harden. So rest assured that “next man up” will still apply to your favorite sport, and players will remain disposable meat except for quarterbacks at the very top.

  52. The biggest prima donna in the NFL could end all the ‘speculation’ if he wanted, but he loves being a drama queen so he remains silent. No one is irreplaceable in the NFL or anywhere else.

  53. who out there does not think that rodgers is a zillionaire….he has done commercials for years now and now jeopardy…..doesn’t need the money

  54. This is worth repeating, for the detractors who like to make up their own narratives for the fun of it. “It’s still unknown what Aaron Rodgers wants from the Packers because he still hasn’t said what he wants publicly. Indeed, he hasn’t said anything about the current situation publicly.”

  55. The Packers are a 4-13 team without Rodgers. But yes by all means, keep claiming that Rodgers doesn’t have any leverage.

  56. I’ve said all along, Rodgers will be playing QB for the Packers or he’ll retire. If he retires, he loses appx. $90M in compensation through the 2023 season. That includes salary, remaining signing bonus, workout bonus, being on the Packers roster bonus, foregoing pasta bonus, and a slew of other things the Packers are overpaying for. Rodgers is the most unlikeable player in the NFL now that Vontaze Burfict is gone.

  57. The only reason GB is looking for more QBs for minicamp is they need arms to throw to receivers if Rodgers doesn’t show. This whole thing has been a negotiation.

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