Hall of Fame G.M. Ron Wolf laments “diva” quarterbacks who want to disregard long-term deals

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The NFL has become more and more like the NBA, with certain players: (1) realizing the power they possess; and (2) not being afraid to use it. This development doesn’t sit well with those who made their bones in a league made up of players who knew their place.

Appearing on the Big Show Network, Hall of Fame G.M. Ron Wolf complained about quarterbacks trying to take charge of their careers, existing contractual commitments to their current teams notwithstanding.

We have a lot of divas playing in the league right now,” Wolf said. “I fail to understand that all these guys have long-term deals. I can’t believe the game has changed that remarkably.”

“These guys” are Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson, and Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson. Each is signed for at least the next three seasons. Each reportedly and/or actually want to be traded to new teams.

Does that make them divas? None has violated the terms of his individual contract with his team, yet. Besides, each has a broader union contract that gives him the right to withhold services as an exercise of leverage to force a trade, a new contract, or whatever else withholding services can achieve.

For decades, teams have blindly dictated terms to players. Take it or leave it. Our way or the highway. You’ll get nothing and like it. It’s about time that certain players — players who are critical of the success of a team — push back.

Nearly 50 years ago, the NFL realized that the game could become much more popular with diverse passing attacks that revolutionize scoring. It has happened. And it has made quarterbacks far more important than ever before.

So quarterbacks have leverage. And quarterbacks are allowed to use it. That doesn’t make them divas. It makes them smart.

And it makes the reactions of guys like Wolf predictable. But no amount of get off my tundra rants will change the fact that the game has changed. A great quarterback has become a key ingredient to having a great team. Those teams that have great quarterbacks had better do whatever they can to ensure that the great quarterbacks want to stay where they are, because the days of great quarterbacks sucking it up and dealing with bad coaching, bad personnel decisions, or anything else great quarterbacks don’t like are over.

Like it, don’t like it, doesn’t matter. It’s over. And the teams that realize the cheese hasn’t just moved but has melted are the teams that will thrive in an environment where a great quarterback is the most important person in the organization, and should be treated accordingly.

123 responses to “Hall of Fame G.M. Ron Wolf laments “diva” quarterbacks who want to disregard long-term deals

  1. Don’t forget Carson Wentz, played like trash then got upset when told he would need to compete with Hurts who had vastly outplayed him the season just gone (Hurts wasn’t even great) and pushed his way out via trade.

  2. Brady started this. Wolf is correct. Acting all self absorbed and trying to sabotage the franchise you play for, should not be applauded.

    A 40 something man who turned into a Mebron James Millennial trying to show it’s all about him. Not only is it weird, it’s childish.

    It’s the exact problem in our society. Disrespect, entitlement and selfishness.

  3. Elite players simply figured out that they can do it because the team will do whatever it takes to keep them.

  4. And he is correct. Nailed it. Rodgers is worried about his future…well play good during your contract then. Once ots up there are decisions to be made on both sides. But dont screw with the fans like this.

  5. An NFL contract (other than the rookie deals and then only because that’s what the union voted for) is hardly a take it or leave it deal. Especially for a good QB. If you sign a deal, you have to follow it. These guys want the big up front money and injury guarantees of a long term deal without the responsibility.

  6. Rodgers earned over 1/4 of billion from the Packers and is still disgruntled. Ron Wolf is right he is paid to be a QB not be a diva. I don’t want him back at all. I want to see who he blames when he falls short next time.

  7. If Rodgers really wanted the upper hand, he shouldn’t have signed a long-term contract. NFL superstars should go year-to-year or at most a two-year contract (like LeBron does in the NBA). Free agency is where true player empowerment resides! The most powerful force in sports is the power of free movement- for players and teams (I’m looking at you Oakland A’s).

  8. touchback6 says:
    May 17, 2021 at 7:22 pm
    Brady started this. Wolf is correct. Acting all self absorbed and trying to sabotage the franchise you play for, should not be applauded.

    A 40 something man who turned into a Mebron James Millennial trying to show it’s all about him. Not only is it weird, it’s childish.

    It’s the exact problem in our society. Disrespect, entitlement and selfishness.

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    Brady signed team friendly deals all through his time at the Patriots and when he left he was out of contract. Brady is the polar opposite of the type of QB behaviour Wolf is taking about.

  9. They want the big money and signing bonuses up front and a 5 year deal guaranteed for injury but then want to rip up the deal a year later when another QB signs for more. Signing them year to year is the only way to keep their salary competitive but the players don’t want that. Sounds like we need a new CBA

  10. Oh come now.. These long term deals are torn up by management every year.

  11. as long as ‘Diva’ qbs are allowed to continue acting for themselves without any consequences, the NFL will never have parity… Bad teams will stay bad and ‘popular’ Teams will keeping winning!

  12. If you think you have the upper hand then just sit on them. The trouble with owners in the NFL is they treat players like slaves to a plantation. Owners have to evolve and they haven’t. Times change.

  13. All these commenters siding with billionaires because they think the millionaires people actually pay to see are spoiled.

    JuWan James signed the biggest contract in NFL history for a RT. He gets injured working out to get in football shape & the team cuts him loose, saving $10 mil. Why? Because it’s business and it’s in the contract. Well it’s business for the players too. If they don’t violate their contract, they have every right to exercise whatever leverage they have to protect their own interests.

    Every time players try to talk money with owners, the owners tell them it’s a game and to be a team player. Every time players want to play the game, the owners tell them it’s a business. There’s too much distrust. Always has been. Players were treated way worse in decades past. Pendulum is swinging.

  14. singularitynow says:

    Oh come now.. These long term deals are torn up by management every year.
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    Players give managment this option by signing non gauranteed contracts. That is 100% player choice because they want their fat signing bonus.

  15. As a barnacle that has attached itself to the back of the NFL, yes, controversy is a good thing for you. However, if you’re a fan of one of teams being blackmailed, it’s not so good…

  16. poseidon420247 says:
    May 17, 2021 at 7:18 pm
    Don’t forget Carson Wentz, played like trash then got upset when told he would need to compete with Hurts who had vastly outplayed him the season just gone (Hurts wasn’t even great) and pushed his way out via trade.

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    He actually played really well at the end of 2019…basically put the team on his back and got them to the playoffs with very little help at the skill positions. But from the time of the ACL tear in 2017 until he put the horseshoe helmet on, he was very inconsistent, and didn’t finish 2017, 18, or 19 on the field. That’s why they drafted Hurts.

    He also did *something* to lose the locker room, the coaching staff, AND the front office over the course of 2020.

    So I’d put him in the Diva category for sure.

  17. tyelee says:
    May 17, 2021 at 8:12 pm
    as long as ‘Diva’ qbs are allowed to continue acting for themselves without any consequences, the NFL will never have parity… Bad teams will stay bad and ‘popular’ Teams will keeping winning!

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    Or, you could be the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Dolphins, or Titans. Draft well, work on improving the culture with a good coach, be honest with your players, pay the high performers and treat them like they matter. Or be like the Ravens and do it every year even if you win. ‘Popular’ teams like the Packers, Steelers, Seahawks and Patriots all forgot what got them there and all have QB and culture issues. Just like in our humble lives, treat people with dignity and respect, compensate them well, tell them how important they are to the collective success and then enjoy watching them flourish. Culture and respect trumps talent and intelligence in every walk of life.

  18. The only power these players have is the power the spineless owners give them.

  19. What does Aaron Rodgers want? Does he want guaranteed money, more weapons, the GM fired? Nobody even knows and he refuses to say anything while the fans speculate. That’s not using your power, that’s being a diva.

  20. Earth to Pick Six Brady played below his value for a decade plus shut up already.

  21. Correct by 100% Diva QB’s or any player who says i outplayed my contract are terrible for the game for us fans who will likely never see the kind of money these guys make!

  22. Sorry, was he not around when Montana demanded a trade? How about Eric Dickerson or Marshall Faulk? Or even John Elway BEFORE he even got into the NFL…?

    Seriously, “unhappy” players didn’t just start yesterday, but been around since the beginning of professional sports.

  23. scottishvike says:
    May 17, 2021 at 8:07 pm
    touchback6 says:
    May 17, 2021 at 7:22 pm
    Brady started this. Wolf is correct. Acting all self absorbed and trying to sabotage the franchise you play for, should not be applauded.

    A 40 something man who turned into a Mebron James Millennial trying to show it’s all about him. Not only is it weird, it’s childish.

    It’s the exact problem in our society. Disrespect, entitlement and selfishness.

    ___________________

    Brady signed team friendly deals all through his time at the Patriots and when he left he was out of contract. Brady is the polar opposite of the type of QB behaviour Wolf is taking about.

    122 17 Rate This

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    Another myth. In 2010, Brady was the highest paid player in nfl history.

    Try to get the facts.

  24. It’s the same in every business – Wall Street, Hollywood, law, medicine, whatever. If you’re at the top of the profession and deliver results, the rules that apply to mere mortals don’t apply to you. You call the shots. Like it or not that’s the way it is.

  25. Ron , you should thank QB Brett Favre for all of your accolades and relevancy !

  26. QBs and WRs are divas.

    It’s a 3-phase game.

    Offense alone does not win championships.

    Tom Brady KNEW that during his time in New England.

    He just wanted to 1-up Joe Montana by going to another team at the end of his career and win a championship. And GOAT that he is, he did it.

  27. I can’t believe how much the media type suck up to Rodgers.

    Hey media types with the alleged bad drafting. The Packers had 3 players in the top 10 last year and the number 1 offense. Davante Adams was not a first round pick so much for the theory you have to get first round receivers.

    Another fact Rodgers played better since Love was drafted. I am not saying it is the only reason, but its a factor.

    How come no media member will ask Rodgers why he did not try running the ball in when the kicked a field goal in last years NFC Championship game?

  28. “Smart” and “Diva” aren’t mutually exclusive. Cher is both.

    The union contract you mention only goes so far. It also has things like daily fines, suspensions and non football provisions which allow the team not to pay the $30,000,000.00 owed to these guys.

  29. patsfan1818 says:
    May 17, 2021 at 8:57 pm
    Earth to Pick Six Brady played below his value for a decade plus shut up already.

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    Brady copped a tuDe in 2018 and skipped otas, the onl qb to ever do it and he sabotaged the 2019 season with players telling BB they didn’t want him back, regardless. That’s how unprofessional was while making creepy Facebook documentaries about himself.

    You just have to wonder how long BB was trying to keep Brady’s ego in check after Brady let the team down continuously in postseasons from 2007-2012 in his “preferred” shotgun to pass 45 times a game for accumulation of stats purposes.

    Thankfully, the JimmyG lit a fire under Brady to play better in postseasons.

  30. People are citing Brady in this conversation? When you google him hit ‘all’ instead of ‘images’. Yes, he looks like a diva, but he won by carrying 16 tons.

  31. Withholding services is one thing, but deliberately poisoning the team by saying “I am not coming back.” and the such. Is a WHOLE different thing! Take your ball and go home, but don’t treat the team that made you who you are like garbage! Also, STOP being such a *ussy! Come out and say what you want and stop with the surrogate mouth pieces. You got something to say? Step up and say it!

  32. chickensalad43 says:
    May 17, 2021 at 8:52 pm
    What does Aaron Rodgers want? Does he want guaranteed money, more weapons, the GM fired? Nobody even knows and he refuses to say anything while the fans speculate. That’s not using your power, that’s being a diva.

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    Exactly. Like when Brady Sr said “it will end badly”….What will
    and why? Where does this stuff even originate from? Only one answer…Ego.

    Brady has led a diva revolt and it’s awkward to watch. Sniveling Brady, Watson, Rodgers, etc. Once you can’t be held accountable, that’s it.

    Brady probably still thinks he had a great nfc title game, for example.

  33. It’s a team sport — a great QB with a so-so O-line will get clobbered. No guarantee moving to another team will result in anything. Meanwhile, the QB leaves behind a team that has been custom tailored for his abilities.

    I believe demanding a trade is short sighted. Better to build on what is there than strike out for pastures that in the end may or may not turn out to be so very green.

  34. I don’t see what powers Watson rogers and Wilson have short of going home and writing their teams a check. Cousins and Dak had all the power and wisely used it. These three took the $$ and while sure to have some input, are employees.NBA owners a special kind of stupid. Writing checks to non stats to stay away or to play for another team is moronic.

  35. Aaron Rodgers will never win another SB….and as good as he is…1 aint good enough.

  36. If you don’t like the terms then get some better representation at the next CBA negotiation, because you players are the ones who empowered the owners with that terrible deal YOU GUYS ARE TOO!!

  37. touchback6 says:
    “It’s the exact problem in our society. Disrespect, entitlement and selfishness.”

    Some New England fans are the epitome of entitlement!

  38. The contracts are normally set up to help both team and players. They front load the money made, keeping the longer terms (sometimes voided) to cut down the immediate Cap Hit & most importantly, make the first couple years impossible to move on from the player without negatively leaving huge dead money. What has been the recent issue is that the elite QBs are past the first couple years and now want to keep getting that huge benefit of guaranteed money/security. I understand that, but the teams already overly invested in signing bonuses & dead money in the last few years of the contract. Extension or restructuring is possible, but not really a requirement. I’m not sure if I support the players or the ownership on these recent cases. I think I’m going to view it as a business decision that is beyond the need for loyalty to either side.

  39. Brady started it? He played out his contract and his coach didn’t want him back. He didn’t have much choice but to go elsewhere…. and win another Super Bowl I must add.

  40. Ron Wolfe is the same dbag who told Goodell that he did a good job with the “deflate gate thing”.

  41. I’d like to ‘disregard my long-term deal’ too… but mine is with Verizon, not the Packers. Odds are both Rodgers and I are stuck. Because that’s how contracts work.

  42. Let’s not turn the NFL into the NBA where young stars give up on their teams and want to chase rings by going to play with their friends. Young franchise quarterbacks forcing trades is bad for the game.

  43. And the NBA ratings are in the toilet. That’s what that greed got them.

  44. first, there are two types of players—essential ones you build a team about (QB, OLT, DE, shutdown CB, pass rush DE/LB) and the remainder who fill out the roster and do the dirty work to set up the aforementioned essential players to make the half-dozen plays that decide games;

    the essential players have their star power conferred upon them by fans and media and, in truth, owners, and we all know how that kind of power corrupts them into divas;

    the picture is very different for the rest of the roster—they are considered non-essential plug and play guys whose career could end on the very next play and can be easily replaced in the next draft by a younger and far cheaper option from the owners’ perspective;

    that kind of gladiator environment cannot help but make so-called non-essential players predatory;

    while from the owners and fans and media viewpoint the end result is the same;

    the reality is the two groups of players are quite different and shouldn’t be lumped together as millionaires carping with billionaires;

  45. What about Diva general managers? Aaron Rodgers is trying his best to win Super Bowls, but it’s a bit more difficult when a franchise’s “Grand Plan” doesn’t include drafting players that can assist in that immediate goal. If Rodgers doesn’t come back this season – I don’t think the Green Bay Packers are going to be too much fun to watch, and the non-diva quarterbacks are more than likely really gonna suck – and won’t that be fun.

  46. Every year, every single team in the league cuts multiple players who have contracts both parties signed, before those contracts have expired. And threaten players with getting cut if they don’t renegotiate for less money. But if the player dares to do what has been standard procedure for management for years, they’re not honoring contracts management uses to wipe their…hands with and are out of line? Hypocrites, plain and simple.

  47. Let Rodgers go. Trade him. We don’t like him anymore. He’s not one of us. Nobody turns on their players like Packers fans.

  48. One of the greatest personnel people of all time, but he’s just wrong. Like Florio said well, players don’t have to take it anymore, nor should they. Irony is that his first Super Bowl team he built alone in Green Bay benefited from the free agency that now allows them that leverage when he signed Reggie White who could have been described as a diva by these terms in how he pushed his way out of Philadelphia.

  49. What is a diva? If you’re a great NFL QB, you have special skills that very few humans possess. If you’ve become a great NFL QB, you’ve put in a ton of work. You’re the best of the best. If that’s a diva, then that’s a good thing to be. I personally think the word gets way overused. I look around the NFL and I see some very well run organizations, but I also see some very poorly run clubs. The team isn’t always right. Some of the owners have no idea about who to hire to run their team, and they often hire guys that are in over their heads. The NFL gets millions of viewers every Sunday. Lots are tuned in to watch the great quarterbacks. Zero are tuned in to watch the GM. I don’t know who specifically Ron Wolf is talking about, and he really doesn’t matter. If he’s talking about the Packers QB situation, Mike Holmgren thinks the team screwed that up, not the QB. Is Mike Holmgren a diva, too? The Packers traded up in the first round to draft a QB, even though they had other glaring weaknesses. Rodgers went out and had an MVP season. The team wanted to get rid of Rodgers, or they wouldn’t have wasted a first round pick plus whatever else they gave up to move up. The management looks incredibly incompetent. Maybe they’re the diva’s.

  50. Considering all of those guys are still on the team they are supposedly unhappy with and have yes to miss any games I wouldn’t say “it’s over”…

  51. An NBA superstar deserves more consideration because he is part of a 5 man team, playing both offense and defense. A QB is part of a 22 man team, 24 if you want to include specialists. One or two NBA stars just need five or six competent role players to build a championship contender. A superstar QB needs several more stars, on offense and defense, and at least a dozen other competent players to have a shot at the title.
    Much different sports and much different situations.

  52. “Players give managment this option by signing non gauranteed contracts. That is 100% player choice because they want their fat signing bonus”

    ~~~

    Name another sport or any company where contracts are not guaranteed.

    If an NFL player out performs their contract or sees their organization crapping the bed, they should absolutely be allowed to opt of their contract. The team won’t bat an eye to cut them if the player is under performing or the team finds themselves against the cap due to handing out bad contracts (see Van Noy in Miami).

    Unless teams are going to honor contracts, why should players? NFL contracts are a joke and 100% in favor of the owners.

    And how do the feelings of someone who has been out of the NFL for over 20 years and helped create this situation add to the discussion?

  53. touchback6 says:
    May 17, 2021 at 7:22 pm

    Brady started this. Wolf is correct. Acting all self absorbed and trying to sabotage the franchise you play for, should not be applauded.

    A 40 something man who turned into a Mebron James Millennial trying to show it’s all about him. Not only is it weird, it’s childish.

    It’s the exact problem in our society. Disrespect, entitlement and selfishness

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    Talking about disrespect as you do it in your comment…nice

  54. How about great QB’s who demand to be the highest paid player? Team makes him the highest paid player. Then they say they don’t have enough weapons. They get him an absolute beast of a WR. Then he complains he needs more protection? This….to me, is a diva. There is only so much money to go around.

  55. Whats to prevent a good player from signing a big contract, then before the ink is dry demanding a trade?
    The implied threat is “If you don’t trade me I won’t play hard.”

    The solution is to not have long term contracts, or to have some sort of arbitration panel that a team can take a player too if they suspect they aren’t trying hard. The alternative is illegal black listing of said player (collusion).

    I’m not talking about a team being a jerk to a player, I’m talking about where a player after a short time starts making ridiculous demands. What defense does a team have?

  56. First, QBs are NOT the most important player on the team despite popular opinion and despite their salaries. It’s a team sport and it relies on all players doing their part for a team to win (just ask Dan Marino).

    Second, If i was a QB i’d gladly take a pay cut to ensure that my front office is using that on the guys who would be protecting me. Mediocre WRs and RBs are elevated by a dominant front line and an above average QB.

    Lastly, GMs are responsible for this diva attitude with their asking players to rework contracts and whatnot. Someone’s said it in this thread and I agree: just have yearly contracts. That’ll shut everyone up!

  57. bigw54 says:
    May 17, 2021 at 8:20 pm

    The trouble with owners in the NFL is they treat players like slaves to a plantation.

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    Wow, just wow. Aaron Rodgers situation compared to a slave on a plantation has exactly zero in common.

  58. No one forced Rodgers to sign a contract extension. Cousins got a fully guaranteed contract. If that was important to Rodgers, he should have negotiated it.

  59. Nice who moved my cheese reference. During my working career, I have received no less than 3 copies of who moved my cheese. Usually, it was when upper management was about to make a change that was going to p*ss a lot of people off.

  60. touchback6 says:
    May 17, 2021 at 7:22 pm
    Brady started this. Wolf is correct. Acting all self absorbed and trying to sabotage the franchise you play for, should not be applauded.

    A 40 something man who turned into a Mebron James Millennial trying to show it’s all about him. Not only is it weird, it’s childish.

    It’s the exact problem in our society. Disrespect, entitlement and selfishness.

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    Never thought I might agree with one of your diatribes, but here we are. That said, bruh, your pft name (and your last one) is synonymous with disrespect. Your hypocrisy runs strong.

  61. I can’t wait to read all the comments made by average joes who sympathize with billionaire owners in labor disputes! Yeee-haw!

  62. The Hall Of Fame GM is correct.

    TEAM-me is what works in football
    ME-team doesn’t work

    Rodgers I think stays. Wilson was never considered. Guys like Jalen Ramsey and Deshaun Watson… all about ME.

  63. boogiewstu says:

    May 17, 2021 at 11:49 pm

    I can’t ever think of a time when someone tuned in to see a GM.

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    How about all the time from soon after the superbowl thru the draft.

  64. Another “pro-labor” article by Florio. Always blaming management. He didn’t have to sign the contract.

  65. chickensalad43 says:
    May 17, 2021 at 8:52 pm
    What does Aaron Rodgers want? Does he want guaranteed money, more weapons, the GM fired? Nobody even knows and he refuses to say anything while the fans speculate. That’s not using your power, that’s being a diva.
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    He wanted to go for the touchdown in the nfc championship

  66. As a Packer fan and a Rodgers fan, I hope he goes somewhere else. This is the only way the Packers will learn that their way of doing business is outdated. Yeah it worked for awhile, but you’ve gotta change. Yes it will hurt for awhile but in the long run, it’s better for both to go separate ways, learn, and change with times. I wish Rodgers luck and GO PACK GO!

  67. “It’s the exact problem in our society. Disrespect, entitlement and selfishness”

    Our society is just fine. We have more folks helping and looking out for their neighbors than ever before. We have more awareness about discrimination against women and minorities than ever before.

    The people who complain about their perceptions of disrespect, entitlement, and selfishness are actually terrified of losing their unearned societal status. They are the real selfish ones.

  68. “A 40 something man who turned into a Mebron James Millennial trying to show it’s all about him. Not only is it weird, it’s childish.”

    A person using a silly nickname for a professional athlete describing others as childish. Classic.

  69. I’m with Wolf on this one. Elite players want the power and the influence without any of the risk. Try this; Give them the deals they want and place one-half their compensation in escrow. After the season, they receive a percentage of the balance based on their performance.

  70. All I see out of this is that Florio really wants the NFL to become the NBA. That’s not a good thing.

    The lack of power players have in the NFL is better for the sport as a whole.

  71. The NFL is in trouble if they use the NBA as a role model for contracts. The NBA is full of divas and the regular season is full of bad games. And I grew up a huge basketball fan. The stars want to be coddled and then they want out when the first sign of trouble appears.

  72. So Wolf, whom I respect as a GM, thinks Rodgers should just tolerate a diva inexperienced and arrogant GM; Watson is a diva and the Texans are a joke for management; Carroll at Seahawks only cares about defense but Wilson has definitely become a diva but consider that he gets beat up big time because of lack of protection.

  73. Why so many negative terms are thrown towards players for wanting more money or a different/better situation? I never understood that.

  74. Your take is BS. Plain and simple. These players are employees and signed contracts. I keep hearing the whining about the teams not abiding by contracts and that too is wrong. It is in the contract when signed giving the team the rights and ways out. If the player signs it upon reading it and understanding it with his reps then he is accepting the contract and at fault for any power it gives the team. They want to see the big number of value and do not care about the details as they are shallow and egotistical. Once signed then they should play it out like a professional. Ever heard of Manning, Brady, Marino or maybe one of the other actual real respectable QB’s who played to win and love of the game? So YES these guys are whining and should shut their mouths and play the game.

  75. boogiewstu says:
    May 17, 2021 at 11:49 pm
    I can’t ever think of a time when someone tuned in to see a GM.

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    No but without the GM building the team who would you tune in to watch? Bet you are under the age of 35 and think you are entitled. Opinions like yours (of which you are entitled too) are what is destroying life in this country. Maybe just be quite and earn your way while doing what is expected and honest.

  76. rho1953 says:
    May 17, 2021 at 9:46 pm
    Amen. I am starting to hate the greedy, overpaid QB’s.
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    Overpaid how? Should NFL players not be paid according to the industry rates? Do the teams not negotiate and agree to the contracts?

    I think it’s interesting that we’re using Rodgers, Watson and Wilson as examples of “Diva QBs” wanting to dictate where they go, when none of them have left their current team. So the issue is that they have the temerity to voice being unhappy where they are?

  77. Ron Wolf is already in the HOF so he can now only be elevated to the status of “Football God.” My respect for him just increased tenfold. Shame he’s not still the G.M. of the Packers. Prima Donna Rodgers would soon learn he has a binding contract and no leg to stand on. Why is Ron Wolf the only NFLer telling it like it really is?

    Tom Brady is the only QB I know of who took less money from NE so they could sign other players. To quote Brady on the Kimmel show “Actually, it’s a salary cap,” Brady said. “You can only spend so much and the more that one guy gets is less for others. And for a competitive advantage standpoint, I like to get a lot of good players around me.”

  78. So quarterbacks have leverage. And quarterbacks are allowed to use it. That doesn’t make them divas. It makes them smart.
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    It’s makes them divas. None of their “leverage” enactment is ever about the TEAM> it’s always me first and selfish and last time I checked this is a team game. Anyone who does something openly selfish in the greatest team game ever, then their are a diva. It’s a simple equation.

  79. Behind every diva QB is a GM who did a poor job.
    All three of the mentioned quarterbacks are divas, but in each of their circumstance their GMs can be rightly criticized for how they’ve failed in their jobs to build a championship roster. Whether the dumpster fire in Houston, the years long inability to build a decent offensive line in Seattle, or the planning for the future in Green Bay despite coming up a game short in back to back seasons, each of these general managers have done enough to irk their ‘divas.’
    I find it hard to believe that any quarterback would be complaining after winning a ring. And if they did, then and only then would they truly earn the title of diva.

  80. The first true female Diva that told Rodgers how great he was at other than football ended the NFL Quarterback we knew and loved so well. DIVA MUCH!

  81. I’m sure that Viking fans like Mike Florio would like nothing better than to have Rodgers leave the Packers.

  82. This means a lot from the guy who helped create one of the biggest diva QBs of all-time.

  83. I’m definitely not in the pro-owner camp. But, I have a hard time sympathizing with any QB who will ask for a salary that takes up approximately 1/5,(20%), of the cap space on a 52 man roster and then complain when the team isn’t able to surround him with “better players”.

    The NFL has reached a point where a QB who doesn’t win a SB before his rookie deal expires actually makes it more difficult to win a SB after he signs a new one. Most good/great QB’s get better after 4-5 years in the league and don’t reach their peaks until their mid 30’s. Unfortunately, their salaries take up so much of the salary cap that it makes it difficult for front offices to supply them with championship caliber rosters year in and year out. Once a QB “gets paid” you can almost always find a glaring weakness somewhere on the team that comes back to haunt them late in the season or in the playoffs.

  84. You’ll get nothing and like it????? These guys make MILLIONS and you think they get nothing? They play a game for a profession and get paid gobs of money but Florio takes the side of diva players who complain about where they’re at. Florio your perspective on things is quite unbelievable.

  85. bartholomew says:
    May 17, 2021 at 11:22 pm

    “Players give managment this option by signing non gauranteed contracts. That is 100% player choice because they want their fat signing bonus”

    ~~~

    Name another sport or any company where contracts are not guaranteed.

    If an NFL player out performs their contract or sees their organization crapping the bed, they should absolutely be allowed to opt of their contract. The team won’t bat an eye to cut them if the player is under performing or the team finds themselves against the cap due to handing out bad contracts (see Van Noy in Miami).

    Unless teams are going to honor contracts, why should players? NFL contracts are a joke and 100% in favor of the owners.

    And how do the feelings of someone who has been out of the NFL for over 20 years and helped create this situation add to the discussion?
    _____________________________

    Just stop, you have no idea what you’re talking about. People are trying to be nice by ignoring you.

  86. No remarks from Mr Wolfe on Denver cutting a player who’s under contract when he got injured trying to be a better player? Wolf’s just angry that he knows if he treats a QB like a guy who shows up to work with his lunch pail (like Denver treatedJu’Wuan James), they’ll get signed by another team in a heartbeat.

  87. Brady started this. Wolf is correct. Acting all self absorbed and trying to sabotage the franchise you play for, should not be applauded.
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    Brady started what? He’s the 100% exact opposite of what this is. When was he complaining about his contract or the competency of the front office? He played for less than his worth for years and years. And he didn’t blow out of NE; he waited ’til his contract was up and left as a free agent.

  88. touchback6, do you look at how many times your comments get the thumbs down?? Doesn’t that tell you something about your chain of thoughts an moral up bringing, hatred??Brady started this?? He left as a free agent!! Your parents must be proud of you!!!!

  89. ninersapologist says:
    May 18, 2021 at 9:13 am
    So quarterbacks have leverage. And quarterbacks are allowed to use it. That doesn’t make them divas. It makes them smart.
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    It’s makes them divas. None of their “leverage” enactment is ever about the TEAM> it’s always me first and selfish and last time I checked this is a team game. Anyone who does something openly selfish in the greatest team game ever, then their are a diva. It’s a simple equation.
    _________

    You are totally lacking in awareness of the players position in professional sports. A player’s first obligation is to himself. The team is never looking out for the individual player’s best interests. There is no such thing as a “team game” when it comes to playing for money.

  90. Players have to act in their own best interest, even if that means asking for a better contract. Who cares what the fans think, it’s their money and their future. Is it better to rework a deal quietly? Probably. But Rodgers and others probably did and weren’t heard. Don’t tell me the team won’t cut a player when it’s in their best interest even if that player is “on a contract.” The whole “honor the contract” mantra only works when it goes both ways!

  91. But it’s perfectly fine to cut a player with years left on his deal . That’s the problem Rodgers has , his contract allows the Packers to basically make him an at will employee , he can be let go at anytime regardless of the years on his deal . He’s looking for security and the Packers dropped the ball . Wolf is just another dinosaur that thinks football players are literally owned by the team which means they can treated anyway the team decides and have no say in those decisions . Simple solution for those that think like Wolf in the NFL running teams these days go to guaranteed contracts like every other pro sport does .

  92. QB’s are vital, but they’re paid way too much. There’s 52 players on a roster and the QB takes up a significant chunk of the cap space alone. Teams’ best shot of winning a SB are drafting a bunch of studs and a good QB and winning while they’re all on their rookie contracts. Just like the Seahawks did when they had Wilson, Wagner, Chancelor, Earl, Sherman, KJ, Baldwin, etc on rookie contracts. Once they all had to get paid, players left, egos got huge, and they haven’t sniffed the Superbowl since. Wilson and Wagner are still there and have kept them competitive and consistently in the playoffs, but those 2 alone are eating up a third of the cap and they haven’t struck gold in the draft the way they did back then and until they do, they’ll continue to be a first round exit in the playoffs every year type team.

  93. NFL players have extremely limited careers, whereas GMs can hold their jobs until they croak. Teams will never look out for their players’ long-term interests.

    Unless Wolf has issues with front offices who drop players in the middle of a contract, and who coerce players to renegotiate for less $ and team-favorable terms (or be cut), he should just go back and enjoy his retirement. And in the meantime, get off of his lawn!

  94. For those who always side with players against the evil owners, what is wrong with demanding that someone fulfill a contract they willingly…maybe EAGERLY…signed? When they have a bad year, they don’t send in a refund, but after a good year they are ready for a raise over that contract. True, they may be cut after a bad year, but that and guaranteed money are part of the contract they signed.

    As a fan, I don’t want to constantly be hearing about players who are oppressed and grumpy because someone who signed a new contract is getting paid more. Don’t sign your contract and then belly-ache about it until someone gets rid of you.

  95. In an ideal world, a contract is a contract – meaning both sides follow through 100% once they sign it. No one bitches, no one requests trades, and the team pays the entire amount / fully guaranteed rather than cutting them early.

    Then we can just talk about football.

  96. jfmill66 says:
    May 18, 2021 at 9:47 am
    You’ll get nothing and like it????? These guys make MILLIONS and you think they get nothing? They play a game for a profession and get paid gobs of money but Florio takes the side of diva players who complain about where they’re at. Florio your perspective on things is quite unbelievable.
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    Yes, it’s all about perspective. Us normals have no idea what it’s like to be a pro athlete. Regardless of pay scale, it’s human nature to complain if you’re unhappy. Why does anyone care? It doesn’t mean they’re “ungrateful”, just that they have an opinion about their life and career.

    Maybe there’s friction with the coach/coaches or the front office – why does the salary matter? If the money means to you they should just shut up and play football, that’s a ridiculous attitude. Why does the big paycheck mean their rights go away?

  97. Players and management are both at fault to some extent. What amazes me is how the agents are able to lurk in the shadows, with no accountability, pouring gas on any fire that pops up.

  98. I agree with Wolf. Rodgers had no problem front loading his guaranteed money knowing the latter years were less. Then the latter years come and you want to renegotiate? Doesn’t sit well with many of us.

    The NFL made this monster. In an effort to make more money, the league changed the rules and took away my brand of football – I’ll take a 13-10 game any day over a 47-44 game – to pull in those who previously couldn’t have cared less about the NFL. To get to 47-44 you need QBs, which don’t grow on trees, so change the rules in their favor, extend their careers and create the divas we have today. You made your bed. Now sleep in it.

    Here’s a though; change the rules back so defenses aren’t so penalized and let men play football again.

  99. If money is the question, then there are certainly some legitimate beefs from the GM side. If someone wants constantly new opportunities to stay at the top of the salary chart, they should be willing to take on the risk of shorter contracts.

    But if it’s a question of winning, which is part of issue with Rodgers and Wilson, then I thin that shifts the spotlight, rightfully, back to the GM. Are they drafting well? Are they signing good FAs? Are they making the most of the opportunity that a “diva” QB gives them? Or are they dismal and just treading water at best (see: Gutekunst). I think it’s fair for a high achiever to ask, why aren’t you doing better for me and this team?

    I don’t think I’d include Watson in that list. Going 4-12 is not something Wilson or Rodgers would ever do. Good team or not, if that’s your results a few years in, you’re not elite.

  100. Why do I get the impression that Ron Wolff and half of the commenters above sit on the front porch and yell at kids that dare run across their front yard?

  101. QB’s are vital, but they’re paid way too much. There’s 52 players on a roster and the QB takes up a significant chunk of the cap space alone. Teams’ best shot of winning a SB are drafting a bunch of studs and a good QB and winning while they’re all on their rookie contracts. Just like the Seahawks did when they had Wilson, Wagner, Chancelor, Earl, Sherman, KJ, Baldwin, etc on rookie contracts. Once they all had to get paid, players left, egos got huge, and they haven’t sniffed the Superbowl since. Wilson and Wagner are still there and have kept them competitive and consistently in the playoffs, but those 2 alone are eating up a third of the cap and they haven’t struck gold in the draft the way they did back then and until they do, they’ll continue to be a first round exit in the playoffs every year type team.

    Great post. I’d give it 2 thumbs up if I could. A great QB can almost single-handedly carry a team to playoff contention, or even the playoffs, if he has a average to good team surrounding him. It’s hard to get to Super Bowl without a great all around team.

    You can’t have a great all round team with a high priced QB unless you nail your drafts year end and year out, have talented players at premium positions (via FA or thru the draft), and have enough depth to overcome injuries. The above is easier said than done. No front office hits on their draft picks EVERY SINGLE YEAR. It can be difficult to find quality players at the key positions in todays’s NFL (CB, LT,Edge Rusher) with 32 teams in the league. If you’re fortunate enough to find them, you’ve got to pay them along with the your high priced QB once their deals are up. If 4 or 5 players are receiving top dollar money that leaves a whole lot less less for the other players on the roster. Injuries happen every year. Look at what happened to SF last year…and to the Chief in the Super Bowl. You can’t fill out those other 40+ roster spots on the teams with scrubbs and expect to make win a title. We all like to platy armchair GM with our favorite teams, but building an NFL is by the hardest front office job in professional sports.

  102. Player empowerment is such a leftist thing. Stick it to the rich guy, supposedly. Thing is, it’s millionaires sticking it to billionaires…and when the players win more power, the fans are really the big losers. The NBA has become a farce, with players teaming up to win easy rings. Small markets can’t keep talent. Players constantly chirping about social justice, rather than focusing on what is supposed to be a distraction for a very stressed out nation. We used to say “there’s no I in team” but sports in 2021 are all about the “I”.

  103. ———-
    How about all the time from soon after the superbowl thru the draft.

    _______

    I’m a fan of live football. That’s all. And I watched Rick Mirer and some of you people watch the Browns so please don’t say fans only watch if some genius architect put together a great jenga pile.

  104. MileHighMystique says:
    May 17, 2021 at 8:37 pm

    All these commenters siding with billionaires because they think the millionaires people actually pay to see are spoiled.

    JuWan James signed the biggest contract in NFL history for a RT. He gets injured working out to get in football shape & the team cuts him loose, saving $10 mil. Why? Because it’s business and it’s in the contract. Well it’s business for the players too. If they don’t violate their contract, they have every right to exercise whatever leverage they have to protect their own interests.

    Every time players try to talk money with owners, the owners tell them it’s a game and to be a team player. Every time players want to play the game, the owners tell them it’s a business. There’s too much distrust. Always has been. Players were treated way worse in decades past. Pendulum is swinging.——– The problem with your logic is that when the team breaks from a disappointing player/contract, it’s for the benefit of the TEAM…not just to save money. When a player forces his way out of a contract, it’s all about HIM…not the team. In sports, the team should always come before the individual.

  105. Up to the Team to actually build a Team or have a viable backup QB situation that can actually keep the team competitive, neither of which the Packers have done during Rodgers tenure except for a few years around 2010. I believe their record mimics the Cleveland Browns or worse when Rodgers has been injured. That is why employees can hold organizations hostage – lack of management.

  106. purpleguy says:
    May 18, 2021 at 12:25 pm
    Why do I get the impression that Ron Wolff and half of the commenters above sit on the front porch and yell at kids that dare run across their front yard?
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Because the other half is half-lidded nitwits without common sense?

  107. Oh, cute.. another (fictitious) story about how Tom Brady played for free every year….

    (eyeroll)

  108. Wolf is right. I will always support the Packers.

    Wolf is wrong about supporting players.

    Maybe if Green Bay had done what the Patriots did, and had obscene amounts of Titles and Super Bowl trips. Then I would treat them as infallible. They’re not, though. They bungled the late-Favre era. They bungled most of Rodgers career. So yes, I side with Rodgers on a number of fronts.

  109. Why do I get the impression that Ron Wolff and half of the commenters above sit on the front porch and yell at kids that dare run across their front yard?
    ===========

    I doubt kids can get anywhere near Rons lawn.

  110. shurmanblog says:
    May 18, 2021 at 10:46 am

    But it’s perfectly fine to cut a player with years left on his deal . That’s the problem Rodgers has , his contract allows the Packers to basically make him an at will employee , he can be let go at anytime regardless of the years on his deal .

    ——————————————————————————-

    The terms of most NFL contracts allow the team to do that. If Rodgers wanted a guaranteed contract he should have negotiated it. Kirk Cousins did.

  111. So the moral of the story is if you have successful quarterback you meekly acquiesce to anything he wants? How about if you will or have paid him $240 million dollars? That means nothing? What does a contract mean?

    Sorry, I don’t buy it and I agree with Ron Wolf. At what point do you lose the integrity of a team when one player thinks he owns it all if you don’t give in to him?
    Would anyone’s employer put up with this weird type extortion?

    Rodgers, for example, is completely wrong. Wilson is wrong. Watson might have a case but has a nice contract.

    How about just shut up and play ball?

  112. I get that it makes fans mad but you can’t blame them.

    When was the last time you didn’t want a raise or a better work environment, if you had the power to push it?

    In the end, the players are after the same thing the fans are after – success.

    They get paid regardless.

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