Sean McDermott concerned not enough Bills players are getting vaccinated

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Everyone should get vaccinated to bring the COVID-19 pandemic to an end. But for NFL players, there are other reasons, including the fact that the NFL is considering relaxing some restrictions on teams once they reach the threshold of 85 percent of players vaccinated.

Unfortunately for the Bills, they haven’t met that threshold. And Bills coach Sean McDermott said today that “I’m concerned about that.”

When asked about Bills quarterback Josh Allen, who has made public statements suggesting he’s not planning to get vaccinated, McDermott declined to answer about Allen’s vaccination status. But McDermott himself says he’s vaccinated and sees getting the vaccine as part of the greater good.

The Bills obviously aren’t going to cut Allen, but General Manager Brandon Beane has indicated that he might cut an unvaccinated player and replace him with a vaccinated player if it helped the Bills get back to normal. That would be a violation of the NFL’s Collective Bargaining Agreement, and Beane’s comments drew harsh criticism from the NFL Players Association. But just because NFL teams aren’t allowed to cut players for refusing to get vaccinated, that doesn’t mean that teams won’t do it — it just means teams won’t admit it. If teams are concerned that they have too many unvaccinated players, some of those unvaccinated players may find themselves off the team.

102 responses to “Sean McDermott concerned not enough Bills players are getting vaccinated

  1. Yea I’ll think about a vaccine when the companies are held liable for potential adverse effects that could take my ability to provide for my country.

  2. Also maybe if the recovery rate wasn’t so high perhaps I’d take the pandemic a little more serious socialists

  3. NO ONE SHOULD GET THE VAX UNTIL MORE RESEARCH IS DONE! THINK FOR YOURSELVES!! FDA APPROVED?? UMMMM….NOPE

  4. yeahbut says:
    May 25, 2021 at 11:05 am
    Nothing portends future team success quite like having a rube QB.

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    Yep. You get what you pay for in mouthbreather Buffalo.

    Science deniers and selfish people are everywhere.

  5. Yeah, we live in a free country. The Bills are free to do what they want as an organization.

    And if the players are defended on this (even when they’re putting others in harm’s way), they’re not relying on libertarian ideals. They’re relying on government regulation that puts teeth in employment protections. You know, the kind of “judicial activism” everyone complains about but runs to the minute their job or livelihood is at risk.

  6. How many of you truly only are pro vax for covid because you are in debt and really truly have no say in the matter because your consumerism forces you to blindly follow governments for scrap pay checks?

  7. I guarantee that every disingenuous windbag disseminating blatant misinformation about the pandemic and vaccinations has been vaccinated. There’s a lot of dishonesty and deliberate misdirection going on, coming from certain sources. These people are charlatans.

    Getting vaccinated shouldn’t be framed as a “personal freedom” issue, it should be framed as a “world health” issue. Let’s keep our fingers crossed that the next pandemic isn’t more deadly.

  8. KCFinfan says:
    May 25, 2021 at 11:03 am
    Last time I checked with live in a free country.
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    Check again, we certainly do not and thats a good thing.

  9. @Michael David Smith, NO NOT “everyone should get vaccinated”. If you have already had Covid-19 and recovered, you have higher antibodies running through your immune system then someone who only receives the vaccine and didn’t get Covid-19. Why then would everyone get vaccinated? If you are in a health demographic with underlying health concerns that put you at risk of hospitalization or death if you caught Covid-19 then yes, you should get vaccinated. Last I checked young healthy people are NOT at risk of hospitalization or death from Covid-19.

  10. how can anyone be called a Science Denier when this is NOT approved by the FDA? when there are soo many complications from the shot?? do you believe in that science??

    it’s such a cop out to call people science deniers. You prob would cut off your arm if the govt told you to right now?

    go on, get jabbed, let’s see who makes out better in the long run

  11. raidawgz says:
    May 25, 2021 at 11:21 am
    Is the vaccine superior to natural immunity? Research that before you answer.

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    Umm, yes it is science denier.

    Get to college. Society begs of you.

  12. You do live in a free country until your pile up debt, then you become obedient slaves to the system that could’ve made you financially free but you got caught in the indoctrination of consumerism

  13. how can anyone be called a Science Denier when this is NOT approved by the FDA? when there are soo many complications from the shot?? do you believe in that science??
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    Pfizer, Moderna, J&J Vaccines are approved by the FDA, homey.

  14. if you think the race divide in the west is bad, wait until the vax divide takes hold

  15. Nothing to be concerned about, the virus won’t become an issue again until the next federal election

  16. touchback6 says:
    May 25, 2021 at 11:30 am
    raidawgz says:
    May 25, 2021 at 11:21 am
    Is the vaccine superior to natural immunity? Research that before you answer.

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    Umm, yes it is science denier.

    Get to college. Society begs of you.

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    Go to college, rack up debt. That’s got to be the stupidest advice I’ve ever heard. Thanks for advocating money slavery 🙂

  17. Boy, there are lots of sheep here…I’ll take my chances with the virus. You do you though, and mind ya business

  18. Ruha Nuggetcrusher says:
    May 25, 2021 at 11:33 am
    how can anyone be called a Science Denier when this is NOT approved by the FDA? when there are soo many complications from the shot?? do you believe in that science??
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    Pfizer, Moderna, J&J Vaccines are approved by the FDA, homey.

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    Hahaha do you know what EUA is. Emergency Use Act, if it wasn’t for covid being labeled a pandemic these vaccines wouldn’t have been approved because they haven’t gone through the long term adverse effects trails that take up 10-15 years for. I’m pro vax when they’ve completed all trials for 100% FDA approval.

  19. People in this country not getting the vaccine should be banned from everything. There is no logical or good reason not to get vaccinated. Stop being selfish morons

  20. The facts are vaccines work or most of you antivaxxers would be dead or severely debilitated from simple diseases that you were vaccinated as children. If you think that surviving this with a possible cardio myopathy or pulmonary hypertension instead of a simple shot in the arm is an easy do then strap on a nose clip put a 50 pound backpack on and breathe through a straw and see how your day goes.

  21. The ignorance is palpable. The vaccine is the reason we’re almost out of this mess. Stop with the nonsense and let’s get back to normal. Science is your friend.

  22. It is very easy to see who the educated, intelligent commenters are from the uneducated, ignorant derelicts are.

  23. “Is the vaccine superior to natural immunity? Research that before you answer.”

    600,000 or so dead Americans would have loved to have that vax.

    But hey, hope you and the rest of the anti-vaxers enjoy kissing the ventilator when its your turn.

  24. KCFinfan says:
    May 25, 2021 at 11:03 am
    Last time I checked with live in a free country.

    **********************************************************************

    Do you also complain about being “forced” to purchase car insurance and wear a seatbelt to legally operate a vehicle?

  25. Did you know CDC is now looking into heart inflammation cases for teens after receiving the covid 19 vaccine? Yea please advocate more about rushing a vaccine out

  26. Pfizer, Moderna, J&J Vaccines are approved by the FDA, homey.

    They were not approved. They were given emergency status which is not the same as fda approval .

  27. The facts are vaccines work or most of you antivaxxers would be dead or severely debilitated from simple diseases that you were vaccinated as children. If you think that surviving this with a possible cardio myopathy or pulmonary hypertension instead of a simple shot in the arm is an easy do then strap on a nose clip put a 50 pound backpack on and breathe through a straw and see how your day goes.

    Most who aren’t getting this are not anti Vaxers. An anti vaxer is one who swears off all vaccines. If you don’t get a flu shot, can I call you an anti vaxer?

    And if you get the shot, why is it so important for you that I get it. You’re safe and protected right? …..oh wait, you’re not. I’m guessing you been vaccined and still west two masks and a face shield…

  28. KCFinfan says:
    May 25, 2021 at 11:03 am

    Last time I checked with live in a free country.

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    If you live in KC, or anywhere in the US, you don’t live in a “free country”. Check out how many people are incarcerated in the US. Then check out how that number compares to other countries.

    And Bills players, and all NFL players are free to decide to get vaccinated or not. They just might not be employed for long, depending on their choice. That has nothing to do with “freedom”.

    The funny thing about the vaccine debate is that many of the “anti-vaxxers” would describe themselves as a “patriot”. A patriot, by definition, is someone who loves their country and would risk their life for it, if need be. If you are choosing not to get the vaccine, you are putting fellow Americans and risk, while simultaneously not being willing to risk your own life for the sake of the country.

  29. Antivaxer – oh noes oh noes Bill Gates put nanochips in the vaxes so he can track everything I do!!!!

    Also Antivaxer – Looks down at smart phone that tracks everywhere he goes and everything he looks at to post on PFT

    Lolz

  30. If my star QB is not vaccinated, you can darn well bet every down roster player and every employee will be or be gone. Also, I will take every precaution with him, masking + limit his exposure. NYS is an “at-will” work state. That means I need no reason at all to fire or cut you. I just say you’re gone, no explanation required.

  31. Got to go with Josh Allen here. Just doesn’t make sense for a healthy person under 50 to get the vaccine. For a healthy person in that age range, the risks of rushed vaccine outweigh the risks of covid.

  32. Perusing the comments, one observes a fundamental hypocrisy — many who once complained about media fear-mongering about the pandemic are now engaging in fear-mongering themselves about the means by which the pandemic might be brought to an end: the vaccines.

    The frailty of humanity’s blind obedience to emotion at the expense of logic is once again on full display. Prior to Covid, I was fortunate enough to return to Vulcan, where a pandemic like this would be easily quashed because we understand that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.

  33. Is the vaccine superior to natural immunity? Research that before you answer.
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    Covid killed more Americans in 15 months than 20 years of World War 1, World War 2, and Vietnam.

    If you were a soldier would you think that your head was “naturally immune” to artillery too? Congratulations, you didn’t make it home. Your family will be receiving a folded flag shortly.

  34. The point of a vaccine is to create an immune response from your natural immunity system. They introduce a weakened or dead version of the virus to the system, allowing even weaker immune systems to respond and take care of the intruder. The immune system creates a memory of the intruder and then it is still capable to fight off the virus for an uncertain amount of time. Your immune system still does the work, not the vaccine. You can still catch the virus even if you have gotten the vaccine. What matters is how quickly your immune system reacts to the virus. If you never get symptoms, your immune system is working pretty quickly to get rid of the virus, whether you got the vaccine or not. You can help improve your immune system naturally, it doesn’t have to be through vaccines. If you don’t trust your immune system to do the work, then by all means get the vaccine and if you do you shouldn’t have to fear those who don’t. The vaccine should not be mandated, some people have had bad reactions to the vaccine and have died. The vaccines do introduce chemicals into the system that could have negative effects somewhere down the line. So we shouldn’t pretend that the vaccine is the right solution for everyone.

  35. I love that so many people are suddenly so in favor of government regulation!

    Yes the FDA gave emergency authorization (as compared to its normal 8-year schedule). It doesn’t matter. The risk Covid poses to American lives is much higher than the theoretical potential risk of weird vaccine side affects.

    I can’t believe anyone could watch 600,000 of their countrymen die in a bit longer than one year and be like “I’ll take my chances with that!”

  36. People in Sweden are having severe side effects to the Pfizer vaccine. It’s triggering narcolepsy and heart irregularities. The Astra was banned due to blood clots, and Johnson and Johnson is the same company that knew about dangerous chemicals being shipped in their baby powder. None of these vaccines are FDA approved. There is no longterm data on any of them.

  37. I think Sean should just realize the issue is the idiotic, Draconian state level policies in NY.
    There is absolutely no incentive for these guys (who think they are invincible anyway) to get vaxed.

    Especially when they have been lied to by CDC/WHO/Fauci claiming they still have to were a mask because they can still spread or get it.

    If that is a FACT (it isn’t) then why bother?

    The stupid Biden “Wear a mask forever to be a true American” crap lead to this.

  38. Got to go with Josh Allen here. Just doesn’t make sense for a healthy person under 50 to get the vaccine. For a healthy person in that age range, the risks of rushed vaccine outweigh the risks of covid.
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    The risks of Covid are well known and the risks of the Vaccine are speculative, unproven, and subject to intense misinformation.

    Plenty of healthy people died. Also, unvaccinated people can infect other unvaccinated people.

    Josh Allen is being dumb and selfish, and you aren’t using critical thinking skills.

  39. covidiots says:
    May 25, 2021 at 12:27 pm
    Antivaxer – oh noes oh noes Bill Gates put nanochips in the vaxes so he can track everything I do!!!!

    Also Antivaxer – Looks down at smart phone that tracks everywhere he goes and everything he looks at to post on PFT

    Lolz

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    Not one comment about not wanting the vax on this particular thread made any mention of the bill gates conspiracy theory. There isn’t a conspiracy theory stating that these vaccine companies are not being held liable for damages. That’s true. Please keep up 🙂

  40. The CDC should research the side effects of the vaccines!

    And you should still get it even though there might be side effects and even though it was rushed.

    600,000 people died of Covid in a bit more than 1 year, even though every state had shut downs and mask laws, and most businesses closed.

    Now, unvaccinated people will be together in public again.

    Don’t be one of the people that dies! Or worse, spreads it to your friends and family.

  41. “And if you get the shot, why is it so important for you that I get it. You’re safe and protected right? …..oh wait, you’re not. I’m guessing you been vaccined and still west two masks and a face shield…”

    You’re not protected? Actually yes, I am. And you know why? Because I believe in science and the medical researchers who are much smarter than you.

    Perhaps it is important to me that you “get it” because I’m concerned about the people around you. Perhaps I’m concerned about having a healthy population.

    If you refuse to get vaccinated you deserve whatever happens to you. The problem is the people around who don’t deserve to be infected by you.

  42. @ultimatefrisbee88

    I understand your stance of moral superiority of protecting people, so you can try and take rights away from people.

    All I ask is you also respect mine about “protecting people” from a vaccine that is also showing signs of being harmful to people who have no legal protection from it.

    Thanks enjoy the day 🙂

  43. Bill fan 716 Im a respiratory therapist you non vaccinated people are stopping people from getting cancer cardiac neuro surgery by taking up beds in icu and rehab beds on the ward. So save your brain storming on this issue and join a civilized society that cares for eachother. I do mask and shield and gown so i don’t give it to you. Man this is painful.

  44. 6burgh says:
    May 25, 2021 at 12:48 pm
    covidiots says:
    May 25, 2021 at 12:27 pm
    Antivaxer – oh noes oh noes Bill Gates put nanochips in the vaxes so he can track everything I do!!!!

    Also Antivaxer – Looks down at smart phone that tracks everywhere he goes and everything he looks at to post on PFT

    Lolz

    Not one comment about not wanting the vax on this particular thread made any mention of the bill gates conspiracy theory. There isn’t a conspiracy theory stating that these vaccine companies are not being held liable for damages. That’s true. Please keep up 🙂
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    Interesting that you did not disavow the Gates conspiracy theory. Just because you and the rest of the science deniers did not mention it doesn’t mean that you don’t believe it. After all, you yourself have several published comments referencing false information about non-existent “side effects” from the vaccine.

    Exactly what damages should the vaccine developers be held liable for? Less than 10 people have developed blood clots, and it is still undetermined if the vaccine caused those. Not a single person has died from the vaccine.

  45. a very good client of mine has a 47 year old wife. She listened to all of the ” you got to get vaccinated ” talk. March 1 she was perfectly healthy and got the vaccine, now she is on the waitlist for a heart transplant. you all decide …

  46. The same individuals who are telling everyone to trust the science are the same ones who think there are more than two genders, and also believe biological men should be allowed to compete in women’s sports. Let that all sink in.

  47. jameshodges says:

    People in Sweden are having severe side effects to the Pfizer vaccine. It’s triggering narcolepsy and heart irregularities.
    _________

    That is an absolute lie. If it were true people here in the US would be having those same types of issues. But we aren’t, are we?

  48. 6burgh says:
    May 25, 2021 at 12:10 pm
    Did you know CDC is now looking into heart inflammation cases for teens after receiving the covid 19 vaccine? Yea please advocate more about rushing a vaccine out
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    Not true. Not any of the wacko conspiracy theories you have posted about the vaccines are true.

  49. @gibson45

    Where did I give credence to the bill gates conspiracy?
    Where did I post false information?
    Where did I say I’m a science denier?

  50. People filling up hospitals with covid now are mostly refusers.
    Same old selfish people who waste resources because they can’t get it together while people who can follow a modicum of direction suffer.
    spreading negligent and blatantly false information should land you in jail.
    I guess time will tell who was right.
    Bills suck.

  51. Very interesting set of opinions here opposing vaccination. It is likely that these opinions are similar to those of the players that are hesitant to get vaccine. I take these opinions seriously because they are very consequential to the health of millions of people.

    Concern about FDA rushing through process was reasonable concern, but these are the most closely scrutinized treatments that we have ever had. And if the trials that have included tens of thousands of participants for each of the vaccines have not convinced you of their safety and effectiveness, at this point 163M in the U.S. that have gotten their shots. So not enough testing cannot be a reason not to get it.

    I also think it is reasonable to think that if you have had COVID, you are protected. This is also a question that has been studied and the answer is that the vaccine provides more protection than a previous infection. Even Trump who famously got COVID opted to get the shot.

    For those of you who believe that thinking for yourselves and not being sheeple are important values I encourage to ask yourselves: “What information or proof do I need to decide that the vaccine is the right thing to do for myself and my family?”.

    For myself, I have concluded that the scientific evidence of safety and effectiveness is overwhelming and that the risk of catching COVID and passing it to my family is not acceptable, and that the quicker more of the country gets vaccinated the quicker we can all get to normal life.

    It is still a free country. That puts more of a responsibility on each of us to think and consider the consequences of our choices. Choose wisely.

  52. @gibsons45

    Is not true no one said anything about the bill gates conspiracy?
    Is not true when you go to college you rack up debt?
    Is not true once you rack up debt you become a slave to the monetary system?
    Is not true these vaccine companies are not being held liable for potential damages?

  53. Hey 6burgh…wow, you sure have it all figured out don’t you. These are super obvious issues with very easy answers, right?. When’s the last time you said, “I don’t know”? When’s the last time you tried to solve a problem rather than win an argument? “The essence of tyranny is the denial of complexity.” Jacob Burckhardt.

  54. I was told by my ICU doctor at a prominent University hospital while being treated after a accident that orders from the top stated that every death involving a respiratory component has to be listed as a Covid19 death. It’s called keeping the funding. I asked the doctor because I had a lacerated lung and they put a Covid19 positive patient in the other bed in my room. The hospital was not short of beds, they could have put him anywhere. I spent a month in the room and even shared a bathroom the whole time. He recovered and I never tested positive.

  55. jameshodges says:

    People in Sweden are having severe side effects to the Pfizer vaccine. It’s triggering narcolepsy and heart irregularities.
    _________

    gibson45 says:
    May 25, 2021 at 1:12 pm

    That is an absolute lie. If it were true people here in the US would be having those same types of issues. But we aren’t, are we?

    ________________________________________________

    Did it ever occur to you the media just isn’t reporting it because they want people to get vaccinated anyways? This is a mindless cult. Compared to other developed countries, our national news is nothing but propaganda. They never tell the public the truth, especially if it’s political.

  56. KCFinfan says:
    May 25, 2021 at 11:03 am
    Last time I checked with live in a free country.
    ——— Really? If a cop wants to pull you over, a reason will be found to pull you over. And it will be a “legal” reason.

  57. @gibson45

    I’m sorry, but if you google “heart inflammation teens” acouple articles will pop up. One will say 18 confirmed cases in Connecticut. Don’t deny it.

  58. My issue is not with anyone choosing to get or not get the vaccine (I took it). My issue is with the arbitrary numbers and shifting goal posts that have been used and deployed throughout the pandemic. The NFL says it wants 85% of people vaccinated to lift restrictions. My governor had said he wanted 70% of the state vaccinated before lifting the mask mandate. That changed once the CDC changed its guidance. We’ve had 25% capacity, 10% capacity, 50% capacity, 75% capacity. We’ve had 3 feet of distance, 6 feet, 18 feet. We’ve had quarantine of 21 days, 14 days, 7 days, 5 days, 3 days. Some localities and states say the incidence rate has to be below 10 per 100,000 and a positivity rate of 1%. Then it changes. The point is that none of these numbers are “following the science.” They are entirely made up, just as the NFL’s 85% number is. It’s nothing but PR and politics.

  59. KCFinfan says:
    May 25, 2021 at 11:03 am
    Last time I checked with live in a free country.
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    We do live in a free Country, so it’s your choice whether or not to get vaccinated, but that doesn’t mean an NFL club can’t make a business decision when it comes to unvaccinated players. If a business believes someone in the building is holding them back costing them time or money it’s their choice whether or not to cut their losses. Just like public schools… if your child is not vaccinated they will not be allowed to attend.

  60. The coach is right to be concerned because last year showed that you may end up having to play a WR as a QB due to a Covid infection in the locker room. The teams that have to constantly be quarantining players or have players missing games due to Covid will be the ones that don’t succeed.

  61. jameshodges says:
    May 25, 2021 at 1:34 pm
    jameshodges says:

    People in Sweden are having severe side effects to the Pfizer vaccine. It’s triggering narcolepsy and heart irregularities.
    _________

    gibson45 says:
    May 25, 2021 at 1:12 pm

    That is an absolute lie. If it were true people here in the US would be having those same types of issues. But we aren’t, are we?

    ________________________________________________

    Did it ever occur to you the media just isn’t reporting it because they want people to get vaccinated anyways? This is a mindless cult. Compared to other developed countries, our national news is nothing but propaganda. They never tell the public the truth, especially if it’s political.

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    You forgot the word “some.” Some people are having reactions to Pfizer’s vaccine. Right now the rate is not thought to be above that of the general population for those issues. As for the media, they’ve got bigger lies to tell. Much bigger.

  62. ….It is very easy to see who the educated, intelligent commenters are from the uneducated, ignorant derelicts are. _________

    Let me guess. Educated, intelligent = agree with you.

    This comment section is just a mess. Insulting other people isn’t going to get them to come over to your side.

  63. “I’m sorry, but if you google “heart inflammation teens” acouple articles will pop up. One will say 18 confirmed cases in Connecticut. Don’t deny it.”

    1) Right now, it is believed that the number of cases are what would be expected in that population, without vaccinations.

    2) The cases aremild

    3) Far more young people would beinjured, some with organ damage,if they catch COVID.

  64. The dumbing down of America is in full force.

    20 years of access to the internets and mouthbreathers who never went to college, are all professional scientists and doctors from a basement.

    Sweet legacy and what a bang up job your loser parents did.

  65. I’m vaccinated.
    Anti vax people?…..I couldn’t care less if they get sick or worse…….it’s on you.

  66. If you guys think all vaccines are safe, I’m going to have to quote the Joshua computer from the movie War Games. It said, “A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.” This is why so many are not arguing with you pro covid vaccine people anymore.

  67. I’m all in favor of vaccinations, but if you think that will end the pandemic you are fooling yourself. The supposedly science loving double-maskers running the CDC have already made clear that the two week “bend the curve” period from a year and a half ago will be once again extended in perpetuity whenever Fauci hears a Who. In other words, get a vaccine to save your life, but not because it has any bearing on whether our overlords will permit us to leave our basements.

  68. yourpoliticalpartyistheproblem says:
    May 25, 2021 at 1:27 pm
    Hey 6burgh…wow, you sure have it all figured out don’t you. These are super obvious issues with very easy answers, right?. When’s the last time you said, “I don’t know”? When’s the last time you tried to solve a problem rather than win an argument? “The essence of tyranny is the denial of complexity.” Jacob Burckhardt.

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    “I never let my schooling interfere with my education”
    – Mark Twain

  69. jameshodges says:

    People in Sweden are having severe side effects to the Pfizer vaccine. It’s triggering narcolepsy and heart irregularities.
    _________

    gibson45 says:
    May 25, 2021 at 1:12 pm

    That is an absolute lie. If it were true people here in the US would be having those same types of issues. But we aren’t, are we?

    ________________________________________________

    Did it ever occur to you the media just isn’t reporting it because they want people to get vaccinated anyways? This is a mindless cult. Compared to other developed countries, our national news is nothing but propaganda. They never tell the public the truth, especially if it’s political.
    _____________

    Ah, the old media media conspiracy theory. That’s always the fallback for you people, isn’t it?

    Why exactly would the media “want” people to get vaccinated? And tell us exactly how much you know about the media in other developed countries. How media from Canada, Great Britain, France, etc. do you actually consume?

    Here’s a media fact. The “media” is not some sole conglomerate owned by one person or entity. To the contrary, we have vast array of media, ranging from objective news reporting to biased stories spanning the political spectrum. For example, if you want crazy conspiracy theories about the vaccine you can go to newsmax, breitbart, or number of outlets. But guess? They’re also “the media”.

  70. 6burgh says:
    May 25, 2021 at 1:25 pm
    @gibsons45

    Is not true no one said anything about the bill gates conspiracy?
    Is not true when you go to college you rack up debt?
    Is not true once you rack up debt you become a slave to the monetary system?
    Is not true these vaccine companies are not being held liable for potential damages?
    _____________

    – You still refuse to disavow the Gates conspiracy theory. Obviously you believe it.

    – Some people have scholarships. Some people work while going to college. Some people’s employers pay for their college. Some people’s parents save for their college education. So no, it is not necessarily true that a person racks up debt going to college.

    – What exactly is the “monetary system”? I hate to break it to you, but there is no cabal of shadowy financiers out there looking to control you.

    – There are no damages for the vaccine companies to be held liable for.

  71. Here are some fun facts for Covid-19 survival rate by age group:
    0-14 survival is 99.9998%
    15-44 survival is 99.9931%
    45-64 survival is 99.9294%
    65-85 survival is 99.6297%
    over85 survival is 98.2499%

  72. NO ONE SHOULD GET THE VAX UNTIL MORE RESEARCH IS DONE! THINK FOR YOURSELVES!! FDA APPROVED?? UMMMM….NOPE
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    You may want to do some research before making erroneous posts. The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has been approved by the FDA…..Google it to find out for yourself.

  73. gibson45 says:
    May 25, 2021 at 2:15 pm

    Ah, the old media media conspiracy theory. That’s always the fallback for you people, isn’t it?

    Why exactly would the media “want” people to get vaccinated? And tell us exactly how much you know about the media in other developed countries. How media from Canada, Great Britain, France, etc. do you actually consume?

    Here’s a media fact. The “media” is not some sole conglomerate owned by one person or entity. To the contrary, we have vast array of media, ranging from objective news reporting to biased stories spanning the political spectrum. For example, if you want crazy conspiracy theories about the vaccine you can go to newsmax, breitbart, or number of outlets. But guess? They’re also “the media”.

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    Then, why can’t you just think for yourself? Do you have to be told that expedited, experimental emergency vaccinations, which obviously have only months worth of research globally, are absolutely safe to inject? What happened to the whole “don’t do drugs, kids” talk? You have no idea what it’s going to do to your body months, if not years from now. And, yes, Australian and Norway news is much more credible than anything coming out of CNN or MSNBC.

  74. ProFootballSpock says:
    May 25, 2021 at 12:30 pm
    Perusing the comments, one observes a fundamental hypocrisy — many who once complained about media fear-mongering about the pandemic are now engaging in fear-mongering themselves about the means by which the pandemic might be brought to an end: the vaccines.

    The frailty of humanity’s blind obedience to emotion at the expense of logic is once again on full display. Prior to Covid, I was fortunate enough to return to Vulcan, where a pandemic like this would be easily quashed because we understand that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.

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    Fascinating. Live long & prosper.

  75. If Josh Allen gets Covid during the season, it can take him a while to recover his strength and may impact the Bills playoff hopes.

    Cam Newtons has Covid and looked much weaker once he returned. Lets see how he looks this year. Recovering from Covid doesn’t mean you are instantly healthy, for some people it takes a while to fully recover.

  76. Remember when doctors and physicians advocated that smoking wasn’t bad for you. Humans are flawed and make mistakes. Especially when suffering no legal consequences 🙂

  77. It’s been proven the Vax alters your RNA. Enjoy that science. If you’ve been valued, it’s too late. I personally know 2 people who took the “cure” and got a bad case a week later. Selfish? Like I’d let a keyboard warrior play me like that. Nice try. You only believe the science that suits you. Why not believe the government? Ruby Ridge, Waco, Wounded Knee, March of tears, Tuskegee airmen, MKUltra. If you’re valued, shut up. By your own “science ” you’re safe. Mind your own business.
    “The man who trades liberty for security deserves neither “- Benjamin Franklin

  78. The absolute pain I feel walking into the icu daily drives me insane.The ABSOLUTE ignorance of people about this virus is palpable and if you want this to end get vaccinated period. If you shouldn’t be vaccinated your physician will inform you. Don’t lie about my ICU doctor said this and google says this or facebook had a guy its all BS and anyone with a brain knows it is. I work in the ICU everyday we don’t guess why you died of a respiratory disease we run tests and only use facts. Please get vaccinated or this will go on for a lot longer. The truth versus convuluted Trumpian conspiracy theory crap. Bill gates has no intrest in you what so ever.

  79. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation distributed vaccines in Africa, the Middle East, and parts of India that caused polio, paralyzation, birth defects, and even death in a few cases. Bill is a vocal eugenicist who wants to depopulate the planet. His videos also prove it. Why did he step down from Microsoft’s board last year before covid started to spread in China? Why did he attend the Event 201 meeting, alongside the World Economic Forum in October of last year? It was a pandemic exercise to illustrate preparedness, in the event of something happening like now. What a coincidence. Now look at his personal life. They are not conspiracy theories, they are conspiracy facts. He wants to patent the most effective covid vaccine.

  80. 6burgh says:

    Remember when doctors and physicians advocated that smoking wasn’t bad for you. Humans are flawed and make mistakes. Especially when suffering no legal consequences 🙂
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    No one remembers that because it never happened. The Surgeon General’s warning was placed on cigarettes in 1964. Doctors were advising people not to smoke long before that.

  81. catquick says:
    May 25, 2021 at 3:19 pm
    It’s been proven the Vax alters your RNA. Enjoy that science.
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    I feel like you know nothing about RNA or science.

  82. “Everyone should get vaccinated to bring the COVID-19 pandemic to an end.” Statements like this concern me. It’s as if we’ve lost the ability to think critically. Do we no longer look at data?

    I have no co-morbidities. I had COVID in late 2019. The CDC posted two weeks ago that only 33k people have died with no co-morbidities. The average number of co-morbidities for those who have died is 4. The bottom line is that if you are healthy, you have very little to worry about. If you are not healthy, you are at risk and you should consider the vaccine.

    Even without prior exposure, my risk from this virus is less than .02%. Why would I risk my health on a vaccine that is still classified as experimental by the FDA, a vaccine that has no long term effect data and one that works on a mechanism that does not rely on an identical immune response? I’m in my 40’s and healthy. My risk from COVID is minimal but my risk from the vaccination is a total unknown. This is a simple risk assessment and a very easy conclusion to reach.

    I am by no means against vaccinations. Both myself and my son are fully vaccinated for the usual maladies and will continue to be. I believe vaccinations are one of the truly great inventions of mankind.

    For those of you have been vaccinated, I would ask you to stop shaming those who have not been vaccinated. For the vast majority of us, this is a decision born out of significant analysis and not the stereotypes you’d choose to believe.

  83. badell says:
    May 25, 2021 at 11:46 am
    Boy, there are lots of sheep here…I’ll take my chances with the virus. You do you though, and mind ya business

    So following the science and trusting the vaccine makes us sheep? In that case I can only say one thing: Baaaaaaaaa. Baaaaaaaaaaa.

  84. finchy74 says:
    May 25, 2021 at 3:46 pm
    “Everyone should get vaccinated to bring the COVID-19 pandemic to an end.” Statements like this concern me. It’s as if we’ve lost the ability to think critically. Do we no longer look at data?

    I have no co-morbidities. I had COVID in late 2019. The CDC posted two weeks ago that only 33k people have died with no co-morbidities. The average number of co-morbidities for those who have died is 4. The bottom line is that if you are healthy, you have very little to worry about. If you are not healthy, you are at risk and you should consider the vaccine.

    Even without prior exposure, my risk from this virus is less than .02%. Why would I risk my health on a vaccine that is still classified as experimental by the FDA, a vaccine that has no long term effect data and one that works on a mechanism that does not rely on an identical immune response? I’m in my 40’s and healthy. My risk from COVID is minimal but my risk from the vaccination is a total unknown. This is a simple risk assessment and a very easy conclusion to reach.

    I am by no means against vaccinations. Both myself and my son are fully vaccinated for the usual maladies and will continue to be. I believe vaccinations are one of the truly great inventions of mankind.

    For those of you have been vaccinated, I would ask you to stop shaming those who have not been vaccinated. For the vast majority of us, this is a decision born out of significant analysis and not the stereotypes you’d choose to believe.

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    Man, you people lack so muCh

    You carried to others and possibly killed people. Perfectly healthy people have died, Mr. Selfish.

    IT’s NOT ABOUT YOU.

    You don’t know what a virus is? How old are you? 10?

    Why is this so hard to understand?

  85. Gibson 45…..you know so much…..if only it were true. Dr’s. Told my work partners mother to start smoking in the 40’s because it would calm her nerves,with 3 sons in combat. I was listening when C Everett Koop told us smoking causes cancer. 75% of the country smoked then. You “feel”. Thats all I need to know about you. Fell all you want. I read about this kind of thing. It alters RNA. You’ve had your say with a needle. Keep it to yourself now. I’ll make my own decisions.
    P.S. Rarely publicized, Bill Gates has arrest warrants issued in India for murder for his “helpful vaccines ” that maimed and killed thousands. He can’t go there. He doesn’t care about me personally, but collectively, he’s very concerned. Look up ” Georgia guidestones ” and learn something you don’t know.

  86. catquick says:
    May 25, 2021 at 4:02 pm
    Gibson 45…..you know so much…..if only it were true. Dr’s. Told my work partners mother to start smoking in the 40’s because it would calm her nerves,with 3 sons in combat.
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    Interesting. The doctor discussion was between me and 6burgh. Could it be that you are posting under multiple screen names?

  87. Gibson….no. it could not be. One only. Its an open forum. Email if you want privacy.

  88. bigw54 says:
    May 25, 2021 at 3:22 pm
    The truth versus convuluted Trumpian conspiracy theory crap. Bill gates has no intrest in you what so ever.
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    Trump continues to advise that people in fact get vaccinated. So much for that theory. I bet you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

  89. Saying that vaccines alter RNA is beyond ignorant. The RNA in vaccines simply fools your body into thinking it has been infected, allowing it to build defenses against viruses using that RNA.

    Even if you don’t get a vaccine, every virus you get has RNA, and not just COVID. Every bacteria infection contains RNA.

    The vaccine is nothing new. It’s just a new way to get your immune system to more quickly recognize the invasion of viruses.

  90. ultimatefrisbee88 says:
    May 25, 2021 at 12:30 pm
    Is the vaccine superior to natural immunity? Research that before you answer.
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    Covid killed more Americans in 15 months than 20 years of World War 1, World War 2, and Vietnam.
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    Or did it ?
    Please go to the CDC website and look at the death stats for 2019 & 2020.
    They are the same. If covid indeed killed hundreds of thousands of people shouldn’t the rate have gone up ? approx 8,000 people a day in America died in 2019 & 8,000 a day died in 2020. The Flu and pneumonia deathes nearly disappeared in 2020.
    What’s up with that Scientists ? Real Science asks for people to question the Hypothisis.
    Fake Science calls those who question ” deniers “

  91. P.S. Rarely publicized, Bill Gates has arrest warrants issued in India for murder for his “helpful vaccines ” that maimed and killed thousands. He can’t go there. He doesn’t care about me personally, but collectively, he’s very concerned. Look up ” Georgia guidestones ” and learn something you don’t know.

    This is false and an insane conspiracy theory that people have been trying to spread for a while now. First it was Italy, now it’s India.
    Ridiculous that you’re telling people to look up a lie to “learn something you don’t know”..please stop spreading misinformation. You are a part of the problem, not a part of the solution.

  92. @touchback6 I’m hearing lots of ad hominem attacks, but nothing to refute the data I posted. I’d respectfully ask that you start thinking critically instead of simply regurgitating the nightly news.

  93. KCFinfan says:
    May 25, 2021 at 11:03 am
    Last time I checked with live in a free country.

    👍 291 👎 377
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    This show why the USA is in the state it is, 377 idiots that don’t think we’re free to make our own choices and 291 smart people, now that the idiots have control it’s just down the tubes from here on out!

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