Other teams regard Falcons expectations for Julio Jones trade as “outlandish”

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Four days away from a Julio Jones trade potentially becoming official, the Falcons still don’t have an unofficial deal in place for Jones.

The problem is that the Falcons still want too much for him.

Teams in the know regard the expectations as “outlandish.” The asking price continues to be a first-round pick and full assumption by the new team of his $15.3 million guaranteed salary in 2021, along with another $2 million in guaranteed pay for 2022.

Someone leaked to Dianna Russini of ESPN that the Falcons have a first-round pick on the table for Jones. As one league source said in response to that news that, if someone was offering the Falcons a first-round pick for Jones, the Falcons would (or at least should) take it.

There’s another intriguing dynamic that team executives have noticed. As one league source expressed it to PFT, if the Falcons truly had a first-round pick on the table, the report would have been confirmed by now, by one of the various reporters at NFL Media or the Atlanta Journal-Constitution or one of the other major outlets covering the sport and/or the team.

There’s also a degree of inconsistency within ESPN. On Saturday, Jeremy Fowler said on SportsCenter that the team he hears more than any other as a potential Jones destination is the 49ers. But the 49ers don’t have a first-round pick to trade in 2022. Fowler also said that the Ravens are interested if the price is right. Well, if there’s a first-round pick on the table, the price will never be lower than that. Then there’s the fact, as teams have noticed, that current king of the ESPN NFL insider mountain Adam Schefter has said nothing about whether the Falcons do or don’t have a first-round pick on the table for Jones.

As previously reported, the Falcons could have gotten a 2022 second-round pick with no salary obligation before the 2021 draft. There’s currently no reporting as to both draft-pick compensation and the equally important question of whether and to what extent the Falcons will pay a portion of his salary for the coming season.

Maybe teams are holding their best offers until Wednesday. Maybe their best offers already have been made. However, the Falcons first accelerated the effort to trade Jones nearly five weeks ago, and they seem no closer to striking a tentative deal now than they were then.

46 responses to “Other teams regard Falcons expectations for Julio Jones trade as “outlandish”

  1. Dolphins have the draft capital and cap space, make it happen Chris Grier, we need a real WR!

  2. @Mortimer

    The Dolphins have VERY LITTLE cap space. The $8 million that is left will be largely absorbed by the rest of the rookie class. overthecap.com is your friend.

  3. It’s gotta be the Rams and they’re offering their 2024 pick. I just have this crazy feeling they’re like eff it – let’s keep trying this lunacy and see if it works.

  4. The people pushing this supposed first round offer being on the table is the Atlanta Falcons themselves, because they’re attempting to bait someone into actually offering that nonsense. It’s not happening

  5. Classic case of a huge difference between what the average NFL fan thinks of a player and what league personnel think of a player.

  6. There is scuttlebutt elsewhere that there is a “first round pick” being offered – HOWEVER it is “conditional”.

    Even if this unicorn exists, without knowing the conditions it would be impossible to evaluate.

    I get that NE overpaid for Sanu, but that does not mean a better player should get an even higher pick/worse trade.

  7. “nflxpert says:
    May 29, 2021 at 1:57 pm
    Classic case of a huge difference between what the average NFL fan thinks of a player and what league personnel think of a player.”

    Also a case of what NFL players think another player is worth vs what league personnel think a player is worth.

  8. daphne49er says:
    May 29, 2021 at 1:59 pm
    There is scuttlebutt elsewhere that there is a “first round pick” being offered – HOWEVER it is “conditional”.

    Even if this unicorn exists, without knowing the conditions it would be impossible to evaluate.

    I get that NE overpaid for Sanu, but that does not mean a better player should get an even higher pick/worse trade.

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    NE didn’t overpay. Sanu got hurt. Many pundits immediately said it made NE the favorite in the AFC.

    And Brady wanted him, regardless, just like Moss, Welker, Chad Johnson, Cooks, -Antonio Brown, and the list goes on and on.

  9. After claiming to have a 1st round pick on the table, the Falcons will have egg on their face when then deal ends up being a 3rd or 4th rounder or a pick swap.

  10. MortimerInMiami says:
    May 29, 2021 at 1:29 pm
    Dolphins have the draft capital and cap space, make it happen Chris Grier, we need a real WR!

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    Yes they have the draft capital, No, they do not have the cap space, and finally he is not worth the asking price to add to an already crowded WR room.

  11. I wondered if the first round pick being mentioned might be a trade of first-round picks (from a presumably worse, non-contending team) so that it might be a trade-up of sorts along with some lower pick/s. Might allow the Falcons to semi-ethically float this rumor anyway…
    technically a team would be offering a first rounder.

  12. And of course Jones will regard anything less than a 1st as “insulting”, “offensive”, & the All-Time favorite: “Disrespectful”.

  13. Simple solution. If the terms according to all of these drama queens are so outlandish, dont make the trade. Easy peasy. Its funny how many crybabies in today’s society are all about drama and complaining.

  14. touchback6 says:
    May 29, 2021 at 2:12 pm
    I want to play poker with the Falcons GM.

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    I’d like to play poke with you.

  15. touchback6 says:
    May 29, 2021 at 2:22 pm
    daphne49er says:
    May 29, 2021 at 1:59 pm
    There is scuttlebutt elsewhere that there is a “first round pick” being offered – HOWEVER it is “conditional”.

    Even if this unicorn exists, without knowing the conditions it would be impossible to evaluate.

    I get that NE overpaid for Sanu, but that does not mean a better player should get an even higher pick/worse trade.

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    NE didn’t overpay. Sanu got hurt. Many pundits immediately said it made NE the favorite in the AFC.

    And Brady wanted him, regardless, just like Moss, Welker, Chad Johnson, Cooks, -Antonio Brown, and the list goes on and on.

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    They overpaid. They were fleeced on that trade. Can’t win em all.

  16. Should be 2 first rounders, along with Rodgers getting kicked out of the league!

  17. Great WR’s don’t make teams any better. It’s just not a critical position in the NFL.

  18. Outlandish seems about right. A first round pick for a HoF but post prime WR with that contract isn’t gonna happen. 3rd rounder maybe

  19. Quintorris Lopez “Julio” Jones Jr. will garner a 5th round 2025 5th round pick.

  20. The Falcons will end up taking some teams 3rd round choice at best and still have to eat 5 million of his salary.

  21. Falcons need to take a look at Julio’s birth certificate and adjust their expectations accordingly.

  22. The Falcons will get something for him. But considering he is psychologically finished with them, it’ll be less than they want.

    The higher the pick, the more of his salary they will likely pay. This is common sense and echoed by several here prior to my opinion.

    Until some asshat of a GM proves me and the rest of us wrong.

  23. Not a Falcons fan, but always respected Julio. Great player. But 32 year old non-QBs with that salary just don’t get 1st round picks in return. If the Falcons get a 2nd and a 4th (conditional 5th maybe) then they have to take it and move on.

  24. The draft pick is probably negotiable but in a year of a down salary cap the pay demand probably isn’t (and If I was them it wouldn’t be),

    But for the Falcons no big deal, they already have him factored into their cap and know what he can do, If they don’t get their asking price, he plays for them, they compete for the division and next year they can just drop kick him out the door for $2mil if they want.

    Or then take a 3rd-5th rounder for him.

    As far as I can see the Falcons are sitting pretty here.

  25. The Falcons better wake up and realize his salary is a huge problem all by itself.

  26. People say the Chiefs should trade for him. It would be a big mistake. Hill is the #1, Jones would expect to be #1 when he would be no more than a #2. The Chiefs will be fine at #2 with what they have. Plus his cap hit for a #2 is high.

  27. It always intrigues me when players like Jones who has made $125,000,000 find themselves in the position to foster a trade won’t take a pay cut for the chance to win. He has tons of control of where he goes, it isn’t all about the pick, it is the pick plus the cap hit for the acquiring team. Does the man’s life and options after football chance all that much if has career earnings of $160,000,00 compared to $140,00,000? At what point does the chance to wrap up a HOF career with a ring become priceless?

  28. charliecharger says:
    May 29, 2021 at 4:06 pm
    “Great WR’s don’t make teams any better. It’s just not a critical position in the NFL.”

    Are you really going to tell me that Tyreek Hill doesn’t make the KC Chiefs better? Chunk plays are crucial to NFL offenses, and great WRs make chunk plays.

  29. Even if the Falcons do get a first, I find it hard pressed to see any team eat the majority of the contract in that case.

  30. There is no team offering a 1 and eating a full salary. He is 32 and not the game changer he once was. The fact college WR come out and grab the NFL system faster. There is no more “3 year” development needed. The only team that would make sense is the Chargers. Mike Williams is utter trash. Cook isa thousand years old. Keenan Allen could use the help. Hebert would develop faster.

  31. Unless the Patriots already have a deal and Atlanta is waiting for the date their cap hit will go down, Belichick walked.

    Too much chirping. Bill isn’t going to let a team shop his offer. Contrary to public perception, Bill cuts fair deals (in his opinion) and does them quickly.

  32. Bottom line is he’ll go to the team that offers the Falcons the best compensation or they’ll figure out a way to keep a really unhappy Julio. Either way, unless the Falcons are flexible, they have a bee’s nest on their hands. If they get greedy and the offers go away they may simply have to release him.

  33. The Sanu trade was one if Bill’s worst. That’s a fact and its foolish to rationalize it.

    To Bill’s credit he cut him in the next year’s camp. He’s not afraid to admit mistakes. There’s a lot of head coaches and GM’s that would keep a guy.

  34. He’s 32 and on the down side of the hill. He’s got at best 1 season left in him. Not even close to first round pick value.

  35. Arizona has the cap space and draft capital to make the trade happen, their divisional rivals do not. If Keim is truly going all in over these next two years to win on Murray’s rookie deal Keim should offer up a 2nd rd pick for Jones, maybe throw a late day 3 pick as a sweetener like say a 2nd & a 6th to get it done. Keim would ensure the Rams or 9ers do not get him which would be horrifying while at the same time making your own offense 1,000K times harder to defend lining up Julio Jones across from DeAndre Hopkins along with AJ Green, Christian Kirk, 2nd rd pick Rondale Moore and Andy Isabella. That receiver room would be basically unfair rolling with an All Pro WR room ILMAO. It’s be unfair to expect teams number two and slot corners to line up against those guys. Say they put Hopkins n Jones on the outside w/ Kirk and Moore out of the slot. Good luck covering those dudes esp with a QB as accurate as Kyler who can throw into almost non existent very tight windows.
    AZ probably won’t allocate that much money to one position but it’d be insanely fun to watch if they did. Being it wouldn’t be a long term move as Jones wouldn’t be n AZ more than two years than I don’t know why they wouldn’t. Two years of JJ is more than worth a 2nd rd pick.

  36. All this Julio love is crazy almost as crazy as his pay. We are talking about a guy that has only found the end zone 25 times in the last five seasons. He doesn’t produce squat in relation to his pay so why would he be worth a high pick and crazy money to anyone?

  37. bob1959 says:
    May 29, 2021 at 6:42 pm
    The draft pick is probably negotiable but in a year of a down salary cap the pay demand probably isn’t (and If I was them it wouldn’t be),

    But for the Falcons no big deal, they already have him factored into their cap and know what he can do, If they don’t get their asking price, he plays for them, they compete for the division and next year they can just drop kick him out the door for $2mil if they want.
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    And here is your welcome to reality. The Falcons havent signed a single draft pick yet. Do you know why they havent signed their rookies? They dont have enough salary cap space to sign any of them. Not a single one. They have to trade Julio so that they can sign their rookies… That is why the rest of the league isnt giving ATL jack squat for Julio. Every team in the NFL has ATL over a barrel right now. Eventually ATL will take whatever they can get to relieve themselves of that contract.

  38. HeavyD says:
    May 29, 2021 at 8:13 pm
    It always intrigues me when players like Jones who has made $125,000,000 find themselves in the position to foster a trade won’t take a pay cut for the chance to win. He has tons of control of where he goes, it isn’t all about the pick, it is the pick plus the cap hit for the acquiring team. Does the man’s life and options after football chance all that much if has career earnings of $160,000,00 compared to $140,00,000? At what point does the chance to wrap up a HOF career with a ring become priceless?

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    He is a washed, 32year old diva WR. He doesnt care about a ring, he cares about his money. Also, dont forget to tax 35-50% of those earnings, so it’s not really close to what it’s written out as, and those taxes themselves are why when cities refuse to help build stadiums or give the team owner a tax break, they themselves are losing tons of money in taxes…

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