Vikings tried to trade up to No. 8, but for which player?

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Here’s an interesting post-script to last month’s draft.

A video posted by the Panthers shows that the Vikings made an effort to move up to No. 8 in the draft. Via SI.com (via @MySportsUpdate . . . via the Panthers’ YouTube.com channel), Minnesota tried to spring from No. 14 to No. 8.

Some believe the Vikings were trying to trade up to get Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields. They possibly may have been trying to move up to get Northwestern tackle Rashawn Slater. Both were gone before the Vikings were on the clock at No. 14. Minnesota then traded down with the Jets, to No. 23.

Fields went to the Bears at No. 11 after a trade up with the Giants; Slater became at Charger via pick No. 13.

Presumably, Minnesota also tried to move up to No. 9 with the Broncos, No. 10 with the Cowboys, No. 11 with the Giants, and (if Slater was the target) No. 12 with the Cowboys.

This disclosure underscores rumors that have lingered since the hours before the draft, that the Vikings were targeting Fields. Ultimately, they got Texas A&M quarterback Kellen Mond in round three.

And that could end up being a better situation for the Vikings. Simms regarded Mond as a better prospect than Fields or San Francisco quarterback Trey Lance. Also, getting Mond in round three instead of moving into the top 10 to get Fields allows the Vikings to make a less awkward transition, if one is to be made, from Kirk Cousins to someone else.

25 responses to “Vikings tried to trade up to No. 8, but for which player?

  1. Simms is terrible at what he does. Living off this dad’s reputation. Monds mechanics are awful and he didn’t win very much.

  2. I’m just excited for the Vikings to have an interesting backup QB again. Makes the preseason games way more interesting!

  3. Good thing they didn’t get Fields. He won’t last 4 years in the NFL. will be a typical awful Ohio St QB

  4. If they had traded up in the 1st for a 4th round QB that would be a sad sad story

  5. The Big 12 sent plenty of busted QB’s to the NFL before Mahomes became famous. Will Fields be the first great QB from tOSU? Can he be the first great QB in the 100 years of Bear football? Yes, he can, Will he be? History is working against him but anything is possible.

  6. Graham Mooney says:
    May 29, 2021 at 8:57 pm

    Simms is terrible at what he does. Living off this dad’s reputation. Monds mechanics are awful and he didn’t win very much.
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    You should check out which QB’s he graded before previous drafts before you post something like that because it only makes you look bad. His QB predictions are second to none.

  7. Just find out whether they called Cousins or their Offensive Linemen that night, and we’ll know who they were after.

  8. Nothing says great NFL QB like 17-33 for 164 yards and 1 TD vs the best team Fields played. NFL GMs, especially Bears GMs, are not very smart

  9. I like that Chris Simms is putting his QB evaluations out there. We won’t know for 3 or 4 years who was right and who was wrong. I think it’s interesting that he had Mond rated better than Trey Lance, who went third overall to San Francisco. I have much more respect for a guy like Simms, than I do for a guy who sits on the fence and becomes a Monday morning QB. Simms might be better at evaluating QB’s than most GM’s.

  10. And that could end up being a better situation for the Vikings……Also, getting Mond in round three instead of moving into the top 10 to get Fields allows the Vikings to make a less awkward transition, if one is to be made, from Kirk Cousins to someone else.
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    There’s some brilliant analysis, take a possible inferior talent with the team’s most important position, all on the notion it may be less awkward. 🤡

  11. Two things :

    First, for those criticizing Simms’ evaluations, he’s got it right more than anyone else over the past several years.

    Simms tends to get a lot of hate for going against the tide with his quarterback rankings, but he’s had pretty good hit rate so far. Plus he never lets other scouts’ opinions sway him and his evaluations. Here are his QB prospect rankings:

    2018

    1) Lamar Jackson

    2) Josh Allen

    3) Baker Mayfield

    4) Sam Darnold

    5) Josh Rosen

    2019

    1) Kyler Murray

    2) Drew Lock

    3) Dwayne Haskins

    4) Ryan Finley

    5) Jarrett Stidham

    6) Daniel Jones

    7) Clayton Thorson

    8) Will Grier

    2020

    1) Joe Burrow

    2) Justin Herbert

    3) Jordan Love

    4) Tua Tagovailoa

    He didn’t make the QB prospect ranking video for the 2017 draft class, but while he was at Bleacher Report he had came out to say that Patrick Mahomes Is 2017 NFL Draft’s Most Special QB Talent.

    Second, it had been previously reported by Vikings’ local beat writers that the Vikings tried to trade up for Fields, but the Vikings front office/coaching staff wasn’t in total agreement on the move. In any case, Mond was ranked pretty close to Fields, so they weren’t going to break the bank for Fields if they could get Mond later on, which they did in the 3rd round.

  12. My guess would be a db. If it was slater or fields, why wouldn’t they have continued to make a trade attempt with other teams? The top 2 corners went right at that time so thats why that would be my guess.

  13. Graham Mooney
    You don’t know much about Simmms or the accuracy of his qb assessments historically.

    He has been spot on the past few seasons.

    And he played qb and has experience and opinions in his own right.

  14. I believe Fields was the likely target simply because of how much Spielman values draft picks. Can’t imagine Slater was rated THAT much higher than someone like Darrisaw on their board, but anything is possible.

    It’s also important to note the Vikings essentially landed Darrisaw, Mond and Wyatt Davis with their trade down. Had they moved up to 8, be it for Fields or Slater, they would’ve had to likely trade #78 overall and #119 overall to make the jump.

    So at the end of the day a trade up would’ve landed them Slater or Fields. The trade down instead landed them Darrisaw, Mond, Surratt (#78), Wyatt Davis and Kene Nwangwu (#119).

    Obviously we won’t know for a few years how good Fields/Slater is, but I don’t think anyone would’ve preferred Fields/Slater over all of the players the Vikings ended up with. Spielman has his flaws, but he’s fantastic at maximizing value during the draft.

  15. I think it’s notable what the Vikings offered. To swap first round picks with the Vikings moving from #14 to #8, they offered their 3rd (#90) and 5th (#143).

    Weak offer.

  16. Maybe Simms will be proven right, but apparently few if any NFL teams agree with him. Even the Vikings made no effort to make sure they got Mond. Mond went later than expected and another team could easily have drafted him before the Vikings. It’s hard to believe Simms is that much smarter than everybody else, but I guess we’ll find out.

  17. Yeah, no one actually buys the Vikings were trying to trade up for Justin Fields.

  18. Panthers better calm down, trying to blow up other teams possible draft plans. After a year or two of Sam Darnold, the Panther fans are going to wonder why the Panthers themselves didn’t select Fields with their first pick.
    Darnold is going to be the new Ryan Fitzpatrick.

  19. WOW! It’s a good thing they were not able to make the trade. Whomever they would have picked would have turned out to be a big stiff — like those two first round picks the Vikes selected while Aaron Rodgers was still on the board.

  20. Normally Simms is spot on and he knows more about football than I ever will, but I was not I impressed the few times I watched Kellen Mond play last year.

  21. Ya another Spielman move. Let the team that really wants that 8 pick to pay a lot more knowing there are other bidders. Smart. His other genius is figure out who in the div is behind you and what player they covet and take him if you have no other big needs. Works every time.

  22. Speilman places a high importance on drafting players who are bright. Year in and year out they lead the league in the least amount of penalties because they know the rules and apply them. Also because of it they turn around quickly and dont take three years of development to flourish like a lot of other teams.

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