Vikings wanted to get to No. 8 for Justin Fields

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The Packers aren’t the only team in the NFC North with a potentially awkward quarterback transition.

As disclosed in a video published by the Panthers, the Vikings called Carolina in an attempt to trade up from No. 14 to No. 8 in the first round of the 2021 draft. Per a league source, the Vikings were targeting quarterback Justin Fields.

Previously, it had been believed the Vikings would have seriously considered Fields if he had slid to No. 14. Their interest in him moves to a new level if they were considering trading up to get him.

It’s a fascinating development, for several reasons. Most obviously, the Vikings will now contend twice per year with Fields, as the new quarterback of the Bears. Chicago made the move from No. 20 to No. 11 to get Fields, cutting off Minnesota’s effort to get him.

Then there’s the fact that trading up for Fields would have underscored the fact that incumbent starter Kirk Cousins has, at most, two years left in Minnesota. With a contract that pays out $21 million in 2021 and $35 million in 2022, Cousins has said publicly that he’s not interested in extending his deal. If the Vikings privately tried to renegotiate the Cousins contract before free agency or the draft and if Cousins refused, the Vikings may have decided not simply to protect themselves against Cousins leaving in free agency but to affirmatively seek out his replacement.

If they’d gotten Fields, that would be the obvious vibe — Cousins on a two-season clock, with the possibility that the Vikings would try to trade him in 2022. That possibility now must be factored into the assessment of Minnesota’s quarterback situation moving forward. If Kellen Mond, picked by the Vikings in round three, checks all the boxes as he learns the NFL game behind Cousins, the Vikings could decide after 2021 to move on to Mond and to trade Cousins.

It won’t be an easy needle for the Vikings to thread. First, Mond has to be ready. Second, the Vikings would need to find a team that, based on Cousins’ performance in 2021, would want to trade for him. But if Cousins plays well enough in 2021 to make him attractive to another team, it becomes harder for the Vikings to turn the page in 2022.

That actually could make it better for the Vikings to have Mond instead of Fields. With Fields as a top-10 pick, it would have been much harder to keep Cousins through 2022. With Mond, it becomes a lot easier to pull it off.

And if, by 2022, the Vikings think Mond is ready and if they believe Cousins has taken Minnesota as far as he ever will, nothing stops Minnesota from making Cousins the highest-paid backup quarterback in NFL history, while Mond becomes the current lowest-paid starter.

67 responses to “Vikings wanted to get to No. 8 for Justin Fields

  1. For you Eagle fans, this likely would mean DeVonta Smith would not have been drafted by the Eagles. Instead, Dallas would have stayed put and taken one of the CB’s. Giants would not have traded their pick and would have drafted Smith. Birds would have been left out in the cold.

  2. You had me, right up to the point where Mond was the starter and Cousins was the backup. In reality, if Mond is ready in two years, he simply becomes the low cost starter. If Cousins plays so well in the next two years, then giving him big bucks is great too. Anything short of the NFCCG over the next two years, and they easily move on.

  3. By refusing to extend his deal, Cousins is playing the franchise tag game to perfection. In 2 years he will be 34 years old and prime for another big deal or a couple of franchise tag years. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and Baker Mayfield should take note.

  4. “If Kellen Mond, picked by the Vikings in round three, checks all the boxes as he learns the NFL game behind Mond…”

    Mond learning behind Mond?

    That would be simply Mond blowing!

  5. If 35 TDs, 13 INTs and over 4,200 yards isn’t taking the Vikings where they want to go, they need to look at other things than their QB for answers.

  6. GMs build football teams.
    They stock their team’s rosters with talent at every position.
    Coaches coach putting the roster’s talent into the best position to win games.
    Players play.
    Competition makes everybody better.

  7. The Vikings think having a revolving door at QB is the answer. This is something that no one else does. Then again no one else built a new stadium without a trophy cabinet either.

  8. Say what you want about the Vikings, but they are not exactly a quarterback factory. They have no business selecting an athlete and trying to mold him into a professional QB. They have gone that route multiple times and it’s failed every time. They need a player who can release the ball quickly and read defenses, coming right out of college. And they let that guy go to New England. Smack my damn head.

  9. gimmeabruschi says:
    May 30, 2021 at 11:59 am
    If 35 TDs, 13 INTs and over 4,200 yards isn’t taking the Vikings where they want to go, they need to look at other things than their QB for answers.
    ///////
    Good point. And I would contend that the Vikings realize this. Hence, the off season moves thus far. The defense was obviously a disaster last season. And those that have paid attention realize Hunter, Tomlinson, Pierce, Barr, and Kendricks missing all those games was the reason. I would be beyond shocked if the Vikings D is not vastly improved this year.

  10. Per a league source? Name the source please. I find it very hard to believe the Vikings had decided to move on from Cousins 1 year after signing him for a guaranteed contract. The argument that Cousins can easily be traded is not realistic.

  11. If there’s a QB in the league who can handle this kind of thing it’s Cousins. He already played this game with the Washington SunBurns; came out the winner, too.

  12. ” … nothing stops Minnesota from making Cousins the highest-paid backup quarterback in NFL history …”
    _____

    This would be another great accomplishment for Cousins, who already is the greatest garbage stats collector of all time, and the richest average QB of all time.

  13. Sounds like they lucked out cuz that kid has bust written all over him

  14. gimmeabruschi says:
    May 30, 2021 at 11:59 am
    If 35 TDs, 13 INTs and over 4,200 yards isn’t taking the Vikings where they want to go, they need to look at other things than their QB for answers.

    ___________________

    The question is how many games were screwed up by Cousins, in the second half, out of those 13 INTS. And if you’d insert fumbles by QB’s since 2016, he’s on top of the list.
    Finally, 4,000 yards plus does not mean much, especially when the win is out of reach, and
    the QB becomes more productive because of a no stress situation, which has been a specialty of Cousins, throughout his career.

  15. redclaw1314 says:
    May 30, 2021 at 11:53 am
    By refusing to extend his deal, Cousins is playing the franchise tag game to perfection. In 2 years he will be 34 years old and prime for another big deal or a couple of franchise tag years. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and Baker Mayfield should take note.

    ___________

    He’s already been tagged twice, no way they’ll be a third time, the number would be astronomical. Every chance he gets another big deal though, I just don’t think it’ll be with the Vikings.

  16. As Spielman said/thought, “Kirk’s our Quarterback (because I didn’t get Fields).”

  17. I’m surprised that Carolina, who did not take a quarterback, didn’t make that trade to add more picks.

  18. The Vikings could have drafted Mac Jones at 14.
    They might regret that down the road…

  19. Yeah…. No, no they didn’t. There were 3 other picks after #8 to trade up to before the Bears took Fields. If they wanted him they would have traded up to 9,10 or 11. They didn’t because they weren’t trying to draft Fields.

  20. I find it amusing the Vikings fans consider Fields a bust while they overpay for a QB that racks up stats in garbage time while losing games and then marvel at his stats.

  21. If GB is a hot mess right now then the Vikings have been a hot mess for 60 plus years.

    I guess their fans know what a hot mess looks like.

  22. stexan1 says:
    May 30, 2021 at 12:59 pm
    If there’s a QB in the league who can handle this kind of thing it’s Cousins. He already played this game with the Washington SunBurns; came out the winner, too.
    —————————-

    The Washington”SunBurns”?!? LOL!!! Well done, Sir.

  23. Whaaaa????? Trading up for a quarterback of the future??? Unimaginable and unforgivable!!!!!! -Viking Fan

  24. Vikings have a horrible defense, the reincarnation of Johnny Unitas isn’t gonna fix that

  25. They probably wanted Sewell thinking the Lions would draft a WR. Drafting QB’s is the new thing while it use to be the best Offensive Lineman would get drafted in the top 5 before this new trend. They though if Sewel who shouldve went first or second lasted till 8 you gotta get him.

  26. Minnesota just wasn’t willing to offer a future first rounder like Ryan Pace was. They may regret that for the next decade plus.

  27. Panthers waited to last minute to submit pick so I figured they were negotiating a trade. Vikes must have low balled them because the Panthers traded 5 other times during draft showing they were willing to deal.

  28. This underscores a new trend that it seems more teams are beginning to follow. Get rookie QBs to lead your team, which saves you the huge salaries of the established veterans. I personally like the idea. It develops new stars and once they reach the star level gives them a chance to change teams and help someone else get a Lombardi. Plus it frees up funds to give or keep lower tier players with the added cap space. I like it so much that I think the NFLPA should cap salaries at every position to help share the wealth more evenly. Like maybe no QB gets more than $20m a year. No OL more that 15m, and so on with every position.

  29. sometimes other teams save you from your own bad decisions. Im trying to remember the last good Bears QB. Cousins and Sam Bradford are in the NFL Bank Robber Hall of Fame.

  30. gimmeabruschi says:
    May 30, 2021 at 11:59 am
    If 35 TDs, 13 INTs and over 4,200 yards isn’t taking the Vikings where they want to go, they need to look at other things than their QB for answers.

    —–

    Stats don’t win championships, teams do – see Trent Dilfer

    Also, Counsins in not liked by many in MN bc he can’t win big games, he knows it. He’s gone after this if he does good. Next year if he doesn’t. Will not be franchised.

  31. No shame in their trying and not getting him. What’s more puzzling to me is why both Carolina and Denver passed on Fields. Both teams have nothing but questions at QB and this was a free shot at a potential good one.

    The Vikings may end up feeling bad they didn’t get Fields, but it’s those two other teams who had the full opportunity to get him who will really feel sick if he does well.

  32. As a Viking fan, I’d rather build an offensive line and draft and develop a third round QB than spend a bunch of capital to trade up in the first round to take a high profile QB who will carry the weight of expectations and opportunity costs. Especially since we have a decent starter already in place–one who needs better protection than what he’s been getting.

  33. Everyone had a number one on their draft board. Most didn’t get them, they got someone else. And most tried to move around to get their number one or their number two Etc. This isn’t really much of a story, or at least not really news. I’ll bet you hundreds of draft trades were turned down those couple of days. And these are just the draft day options, it doesn’t count all the ones discussed in the weeks leading up to the draft. It’s not really news and it hurts Mond. Some stories are best not printed.

  34. stellarperformance says:
    May 30, 2021 at 4:17 pm

    Whaaaa????? Trading up for a quarterback of the future??? Unimaginable and unforgivable!!!!!! -Viking Fan
    ////////////
    I agree with Florio 99.9% of the time. Not here. They had to be going for Slater. It makes zero senses looking at this season with people on the hot seat.

  35. To say ‘they dodged a bullet’ doesn’t quite fit this situation…

    If the 1st bullet misses you but the second hits you, is that really luck?
    They still drafted Mond, one of many qbs of Fisher who have all failed at the pro level!

  36. This is just another built in excuse for Spielman and Zimmer to say “well, we tried…” if Fields shreds them in Chicago and/or when Mond flops.

  37. rapntacos says:
    May 30, 2021 at 5:43 pm
    gimmeabruschi says:
    May 30, 2021 at 11:59 am
    If 35 TDs, 13 INTs and over 4,200 yards isn’t taking the Vikings where they want to go, they need to look at other things than their QB for answers.

    —–

    Stats don’t win championships, teams do – see Trent Dilfer
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    5 turnovers. How’s that for a stat? That’s what the Ravens defense forced during their domination of the Giants offense in the SB. The Ravens offense didn’t even show up for most of the game. How’s that for a team effort?

  38. If they couldnt get to #8, why couldnt they trade for 9, 10 or even 11?

  39. This bothers me so much as a Vikings fan. They just signed cousins to a huge dealjist 1 year ago and now they wanted to draft his replacement this year with 2 huge money years left on the cousins contract? Stupid. And fields would have been the starter eventually this year. One bad game by cousins and the pressure to play fields is huge. Heck it will be that way with Mond anyways.

    To me, this verifies the rumors that the Vikings were trying to trade cousins this offseason.

    I don’t understand their front office.

  40. Even sitting at 14 the could’ve gotten Mac Jones, one spot ahead of New England, if they really wanted a quarterback. Oy!

  41. Sounds like the Vikings weren’t willing to give up much to trade up. Doubt a QB was on the radar given the compensation they were offering.

    Bears and Buckeyes history show that Fields is likely a bust, but maybe his past showings against good college defenses is not what we should expect to see in the NFL.. Maybe he’ll break all the curses. And maybe he’ll all of a sudden understand how to make more than one read and prove that ALL of his college film was a fluke.

  42. josh plum says:
    May 30, 2021 at 1:10pm

    Kirk Cousins will never win a Superbowl.
    —————-

    Not exactly a bold prediction when you consider that less than 4% of quarterbacks who have played in the entire Superbowl era have ever won a Superbowl. That’s right, only 3.72% of all QBs since the 1966 season have won a Superbowl.

  43. Vikes if serious to move to number 8 would had to throw in 2022 2 round pick. However I like the Mond pick, too often rookie QBs get thrown into the starting role too early. IMO highest ceiling would be a Russell Wilson, bottom floor a Joe Webb 2.0

  44. not a vikes fan living here in Minny but a spielman fan. this guy hands down smartest gm in football. he stole more drafts then anyone.
    I know nothing of mond except his last name. if spielman took him, the guy is smart, has size mobility and a good arm.

  45. First of all, his cap hits are 33mil this year, 45mil next year. At 45 mil, I’ll take the 1mil dollar kellen mond plus 2 20m dollar starters at each edge position. Give Mond 2 20Mil dollar recievers and I’m certain hes better than cousins. Cousins is Hilarious if he thinks hes worth the salary of 2 premier players at other premium positions. I’ll buy kirk at 30, and that’s a lot for him if Mond cant replicate his game. Looking at Monds numbers, they’re actually very similar to cousins numbers in college.

  46. I like teams who successfully trade up to get their QB of the future.

  47. Supposedly Minnesota offered pick 14 and a future first and third to Carolina for pick 8, who rejected the offer because it was negative value for them based on the outdated Jimmy Johnson chart. This was reported on a PFF podcast.

    What doesn’t make sense to me is that this is a better offer than what the Bears made because the Bears had pick 20 and I believe offered the same future picks. So did Minnesota not want to trade the Giants a future first to move up 3 spots? That doesn’t make a ton of sense to me if they were willing to do it to move to pick 8.

    As it turns out the Vikings lucked out to trade down and still get the best tackle that was on the board at 14 so they still ended up doing ok. They kept their future picks and added a third rounder to boot.

  48. If they really wanted Fields they could have added another 4th rd pick to their offer. They low balled Carolina with their offer. They would not have done that if they didn’t have an alternative plan, or if they were that high on Fields. I think they were targeting Slater and ended up with their plan B.

  49. A&M produces chumps, not franchise QBs. Manziel, McNeal and soon to add Mond to the list. Now add to the list he was the plan B? Add headcase to his bevy of problems. Spielman fails again.

    They went from Keenum in the NFC title game to NFL obscurity in the span of Kirk Cousins awful stint as the team’s QB. LOL

  50. The Vikes didn’t want to give up 2023 first rounder and the Bears were on board with that. I think the whole league will look back and regret Fields not going sooner. Rookie of the year, that’s what is going to happen. Eventually M V P……

  51. NO i think they wanted a CB & Panthers was right to refuse to trade the pick

  52. Kellen Mond could be the next Kirk Cousins. I would not be shocked at all if Mond has a better career in the league compared to Justin Fields

  53. I can’t believe I have to do this, but apparently I need to explain to a few GB fans as to how the Vikings trying to trade up to get Fields is different from the Packers trading up to get Jordan Love.

    -Jordan Love was not a 1st round talent.
    -The front office didn’t bother to let Rodgers know.
    -Here’s the big one and it’s why Packers fans should be angry at GB management: The Packers traded up to get a 3rd round talent right after going 13-3, losing in the NFC title game with a HoF QB that clearly had plenty of gas left in the tank.

    Let me translate that last one for you GB fans: Packers management was more interested in planning for the future than they were in winning a Super Bowl. That’s your bottom line. That’s why this is different from the Vikings trying to get Fields and it’s why your HoF QB won’t play another game in green and yellow.

  54. Wouldnt have been surprised if Cousins was part of the deal to Carolina, Spielman and Cousins have stated clearly he is under contract and will be under center the next two seasons and after that it’s most likely he signs with another team after the contract expires.

    Viking fans are going to love Mond.
    Think of a mobile Teddy Bridgewater with a quicker release and stronger arm.

    And we got Darrisaw at left tackle anyway.

  55. If this is true, the Vikings dodged a bullet. I watched a lot of Ohio football and this guy panics under pressure.

    I was surprised to hear he tested so well. Unfortunately for Fields, football isn’t played on paper.

    I’m guessing he’ll be a great backup who can diagnose plays after the fact and tell the starter what he saw.

  56. The Vikings have a business to run, just like the Packers. They may have wanted Fields…..thinking he could be a game-changer sooner than not. The kid they got, Mond, could be a sleeper too and will benefit greatly from sitting behind Cousins. It’s the same tack the Packers took with Love. Love is a legitimate first-round selection too, and would likely benefit from sitting longer than shorter. Love also may inherit a very good Packer team. Most young quarterbacks without experience play for dogs. That’s not the case with Love. Rodgers knows this. That’s why I think Rodgers will be back for one more year. Or, retire.

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