Bruce Arians on bringing in a vaccination specialist: “I’m the specialist”

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Washington coach Ron Rivera brought a vaccination expert to town to try to convince players to get the COVID-19 shot. On Thursday, Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians was asked whether he’ll also bring in a vaccine specialist.

I’m the specialist,” Arians said, via Jenna Laine of ESPN.com.

“If you wanna go back to normal, get vaccinated,” Arians added. “Eighty-five percent is what we’re shooting for. . . . It’s still a personal choice, but I don’t see a reason not to be vaccinated.”

The question of whether and to what extent players will be vaccinated could potential create division in locker rooms. In Tampa, Arians is making his position clear. If some in the locker room feel as strongly about not getting vaccinated as Arians feels about getting vaccinated, things could get tense.

Then there’s the reality that, even though roster spots technically can’t be decided based on vaccination status, teams will gravitate in close cases toward players who have gotten the shot. As Arians said, it’s a path back to normal. And when the choices are normal and to normal, getting to normal arguably is in the best interests of the team.

75 responses to “Bruce Arians on bringing in a vaccination specialist: “I’m the specialist”

  1. It’s voluntary but it’s being made impossible to function socially without getting it. That’s not voluntary. Governments and doctors says it’s voluntary. But the media and corporations are demanding it be mandatory.

  2. Shouldn’t 100% be the goal, assuming you at least want it to appear you’re concerned about players health and society in general more than simply having “normal” football operations??

  3. Good job. Let the non=vaccinated infect each other. Loss of pay for missed time due to virus and take your chances on losing your starting position.

  4. Sounds like he’s going to discriminate against someone based on their medical history… sounds messed up on face value but par for the course for the NFL.

  5. A player may chose not to be vaccinated based on their religious beliefs. Employers cannot discriminate against a player because of their religious beliefs.

  6. Ok you guys have jumped the shark on the vaccine thing and it’s starting to get really annoying

  7. When a player gets cut, it’s not for religious reasons. When it’s time to get to the 53 man roster and one bubble player is vaccinated and another bubble player isn’t Arians will cut the non-vax one. Why risk exposure to the rest of the team for a fool?

  8. It’s a TRAP! says:
    June 10, 2021 at 12:44 pm

    Sounds like he’s going to discriminate against someone based on their medical history… sounds messed up on face value but par for the course for the NFL.

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    NFL teams make decisions based on player medical histories all the time. They have to pass a physical to join the team in many cases.

  9. Just return to normal. Cases are plummeting. Anyone 12 and over that wants to get vaccinated has had the opportunity to get vaccinated. If unvaccinated players or staff infect each other, then so be it at this point. They’re making an informed decision and choosing that risk.

  10. Employers and governments have been mandating vaccinations for centuries. Get vaccinated.

  11. He’s just putting the pressure of being vaccinated on himself, the head coach, so it doesn’t become a team issue.

  12. jerry292 says:
    June 10, 2021 at 12:37 pm

    It’s voluntary but it’s being made impossible to function socially without getting it.

    ————–

    Then simply go get vaccinated so you can function like nearly everyone else. Otherwise, stop complaining about it.

  13. The are options for numbskulls who don’t want to help themselves and/or help society. You have a health reason or religious reason? You are covered. You have free will and can be yourself – prettiest snowflake on the wind. But, if you want to play well with others, you’ll need to meet some basic requirements. It’s not political either (or at least it shouldn’t be). Trump and Biden both recommend getting vaccinated. And Trump would love credit for ending the pandemic. So, go get vaccinated.

  14. Get vaccinated. If you don’t and you end up COVID positive, you’re terminated. Simple.

  15. I like Bruce but that’s dumb. He’s not a specialist he’s a glorified gym coach. Glad he’s advocating the vaccine though

  16. Does it even matter? There’s already talk of a Covid “variant”. Live and let live!

  17. So lucky to be an American where now that so many people have been vaccinated, we’re seeing such a giant drop in infections and deaths. Look no further than India or Brazil to see how bad it still is for some. Even the UK is talking about another lockdown. So happy not to be dealing with that here. It feels wonderful to have some normalcy return…don’t know if I could deal with another year if lockdowns and rising death tolls.

  18. It’s a TRAP! says:
    June 10, 2021 at 12:44 pm

    Sounds like he’s going to discriminate against someone based on their medical history… sounds messed up on face value but par for the course for the NFL.

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    So you think requiring someone to take a physical is a violation of their constitutional rights?

  19. nflxpert says
    “60% of CDC employees refuse– why can’t NFL players?”

    Got a source on that one, Sparky?

  20. Back to normal??? I’m not vaccinated and everything has been normal to me for months. I make my decisions and live my life. You should try it

  21. Why would anyone, in a team sports setting or any place else, want to endanger the health of those around him? Not getting vaccinated is a selfish act.

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    ignatiusgerard says:
    June 10, 2021 at 1:55 pm
    Back to normal??? I’m not vaccinated and everything has been normal to me for months. I make my decisions and live my life. You should try it

    So you have no issue signing a document refusing hospitalization if you come down with a serious case then ?

  23. mhouser1922 says:
    June 10, 2021 at 1:56 pm
    Why would anyone, in a team sports setting or any place else, want to endanger the health of those around him? Not getting vaccinated is a selfish act.

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    yet I didn’t hear anybody complaining when the NFL went full throttle with its season, at the height of the pandemic, when the vaccine didn’t yet exist

    Privilege based on compliance is the new order of things, I guess

  24. If you are vaccinated why should you give a rip why anyone else is? Your body, your choice.

  25. ” I’m not vaccinated and everything has been normal to me for months.”

    For the unvaccinated, everything is normal…..until they get infected. And those that die from it never get to post that they werewrong.

  26. A player may chose not to be vaccinated based on their religious beliefs. Employers cannot discriminate against a player because of their religious beliefs.

    **********
    There’s always a limit on religious beliefs. Just because a religion requires you to sacrifice a virgin, doesn’t mean you can go out and kill a virgin. Not getting vaccinated affects the team, carries extra cost for testing and separation from team meetings thus adversely affecting the organization. On a broader matter, not vaccinating allows for the virus to live longer in you and thus have a higher chance to mutate. Mutations can cause it to be more resistant to the current vaccine so it can affect a team, family, city, country and world. So suck it up and get vaccinated. Mumps, measles, polio, etc… are controlled because nearly everyone gets the vaccines.

  27. ogre4nerds says:
    June 10, 2021 at 1:29 pm

    Trump and Biden both recommend getting vaccinated.

    ———-

    You just gave the best reason I have heard for not getting vaccinated

  28. “If you are vaccinated why should you give a rip why anyone else is? Your body, your choice.”

    #1 because my kids aren’t old enough to get the vaccine yet. And while the possibility of them getting a severe case is small, it’s still possible and could easily be avoided if everyone around them was vaccinated.

    #2 until enough people are vaccinated, the virus will continue to mutate.

    #3 science is real.

  29. “Topcide” is that how hospitals work?? They get to pick and choose what they treat??

    “Radar8” that’s kinda how life works. All ur choices have possible consequences

  30. For the unvaccinated, everything is normal…..until they get infected. And those that die from it never get to post that they were wrong.
    _____________________________________________________

    Yep, I just lost an old friend a few days ago to Covid. He was younger than me and in good health previously. He refused any medical treatment assuming it would just go away, even after complaining that he was having a hard time breathing. He just suffocated in his bed. We don’t know what (if any) long term effects will be with the vaccine. However, it’s pretty clear what the long term effects are on those that expose themselves and get the virus. My friend’s long term effects are pretty clear. I chose to get the vaccine and don’t regret it one bit.

  31. alphadux2u says:
    June 10, 2021 at 2:28 pm
    “If you are vaccinated why should you give a rip why anyone else is? Your body, your choice.”

    #1 because my kids aren’t old enough to get the vaccine yet. And while the possibility of them getting a severe case is small, it’s still possible and could easily be avoided if everyone around them was vaccinated.

    #2 until enough people are vaccinated, the virus will continue to mutate.

    #3 science is real.

    ———

    The science is real. And it shows that for your kids they are at far more risk (10x) of dying from flu. Do you want to force everyone to get vaccinated for that as well?

  32. The only reason why weren’t NOT 100% back to normal right now is due to all of the dolts who refuse to do something for the benefit of anybody else.

  33. ignatiusgerard says:
    June 10, 2021 at 1:55 pm

    Back to normal??? I’m not vaccinated and everything has been normal to me for months. I make my decisions and live my life. You should try it

    =======

    Things are “normal” for you thanks to masses of people actually taking responsibility for the greater good and protecting your little bubble of “normal” from collapsing. Don’t kid yourself that your inaction made anything better.

  34. FoozieGrooler says:
    June 10, 2021 at 2:49 pm
    The only reason why weren’t NOT 100% back to normal right now is due to all of the dolts who refuse to do something for the benefit of anybody else.

    ——-

    Excluding the elderly, there was never a reason to not be “100% back” to begin with.

  35. bostonbeans says:
    June 10, 2021 at 1:03 pm
    When a player gets cut, it’s not for religious reasons. When it’s time to get to the 53 man roster and one bubble player is vaccinated and another bubble player isn’t Arians will cut the non-vax one. Why risk exposure to the rest of the team for a fool?
    _________________
    So you are worried about a non-vaccinated player exposing all the VACCINATED players and staffers? What sense does that make? If all the people who want to be vaccinated are vaccinated, I can’t understand why anyone cares about the unvaccinated people? I mean, if you’re vaccinated, there’s no risk to you, right? If the vaccine works, vaccinated people are protected. So, what is the risk of being around unvaccinated people? Really makes you wonder what this is really all about.

  36. The risk of a young healthy athlete dying of COVID is minuscule. And if teams want to start retaliating against players who refuse vaccination for whatever reason, I hope the union sues the heck out of every team that does it. The government is not mandating it. The league says it’s voluntary. And some states like Florida and Texas it’s illegal to require it. So teams better not retaliate.

  37. It would be interesting to see how many players that are UDFA’s, 2nd or 3rd on the depth chart are NOT vaccinated. My guess is that is a low number.

  38. I’d like to see some of these people sit down and talk to a friend of mine that was working as a Dr. At the Detroit Medical Center hospital at the peak of the pandemic when michigan was one of thr hardest hit states.

    Listen to his stories about people dieing every day, begging nurses and doctors to stay w them so they didn’t die alone. Listen to his stories about family members who were not able to be with people in their final moments.

    Or how his entire family got covid because he brought it home and how sick they all got.

    But hey , it’s a choice right ?

  39. So you have no issue signing a document refusing hospitalization if you come down with a serious case then ?

    Only when you demand the same of cigarette smokers. There is REAL evidence of the harm of smoking.

  40. “ The science is real. And it shows that for your kids they are at far more risk (10x) of dying from flu. Do you want to force everyone to get vaccinated for that as well?”

    Since you mentioned it, actually yes, I do want everyone to get vaccinated for the flu as well. It’s kinda smart. It shouldn’t have to be “forced” though.

    I guess it’s like the old saying: “you can lead or horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.” Difference is, even the dumbest donkey will eventually drink before dying of dehydration. Humans on the other hand will find a way to talk themselves out of something that will save their lives.

  41. Sorry Bruce, but Tom Brady will be the last human being on earth to take a vaccine.
    He doesn’t allow sugar in his house. And I have to assume he did NOT vote biden, so this will be interesting how it unfolds this season.

  42. Arians: “I don’t see a reason not to be vaccinated.”

    Headline from CDC today: “Vaccine may be causing heart inflammation in young men”

    There’s your reason, Bruce. It’s unproven. Encouraging people to inject themselves with an unproven and largely untested drug is insanity. Especially when the group that’s being encouraged is almost assuredly not going to die or have any long term issues if they catch the virus. It’s time to get over this insanity already.

  43. “Kevpft”… never said my inaction helped. Said, I won’t be a sheep and follow the crowd just because they said so. I did my research and decided against it. That’s how it works

  44. Bruce is the type of coach who would say it’s totally up to you then later that day, anyone who is not vaccinated has to run gassers until they are.haha

  45. I had COVID , I rarely leave the state I live in much less the country … I’d like to thank the world travelers for bringing that virus to the good ol USA and I hold them directly responsible for the spread.

  46. Its like voluntary workouts. They really are not. Sometimes people need help making the right choices. Witch their really not. Confused? Me too. But, I am vaccinated. My choice.

  47. This story is about the last paragraph. GMs, and coaches will want to get to the normal activities threshold. when moves are made at the bottom of the depth chart or guys whom there is good depth at that position choose not to be vaccinated they will be in a crosshairs that makes them more likely to be cut. Less likely to be signed. That is not an opinion on vaccination which I know elicits such a profound negative response on here, it’s a practicality that players will navigate this year as part of employment.

  48. And Bruce Arians got his medical degree in virology from which university.

    In a related story, Dr Fauci said he wanted to call the offensive plays for the Buccaneers next year.

  49. Sweetnlow

    Context is key. They did NOt suggest it is advisable to not get vaccinated. They did not say vaccines are dangerous. They said as there is for ANY drug there are statistical negative data points and adverse events, and they report them, Not hide them. These vaccines are safer than getting in your car, safer then getting drunk, safer than using an aesthma inhaler. And what else? They are profoundly safer than the alternatives of Covid. You speak of heart issues in a small number of people. No small issue. But Covid long haulers have that symptom and many many many more so I’m sorrydont tell me a person drowned cause of their life vest. The ship sank, you put on a vest. If you think it’s a 2000 LBs weight I won’t convince you otherwise. Good luck

  50. topcide says:
    June 10, 2021 at 3:15 pm
    I’d like to see some of these people sit down and talk to a friend of mine that was working as a Dr. At the Detroit Medical Center hospital at the peak of the pandemic when michigan was one of thr hardest hit states.

    Listen to his stories about people dieing every day, begging nurses and doctors to stay w them so they didn’t die alone. Listen to his stories about family members who were not able to be with people in their final moments.

    Or how his entire family got covid because he brought it home and how sick they all got.

    But hey , it’s a choice right ?

    —————————————-

    If you’re vaccinated and vaccines work, then it shouldn’t matter if someone else isn’t vaccinated.

  51. Hey sweetnlow44, if you actually READ the info from the FDA, it would say this:

    While we are taking these reports of myocarditis very seriously, we—along with the CDC—continue to feel that the benefits of being vaccinated against COVID-19 far outweigh the very small risk, if any, of getting myocarditis related to the vaccine itself.”
    Right now, it’s not clear whether or not the cases are related to receiving an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. “We don’t even know if it’s an effect of the vaccine,” he says. “It seems to be occurring in temporal relationship to the vaccine, but we don’t know anything about causality,” Dr. Asnes says.
    What’s comforting to know, he notes, is that “the cases seen thus far have been very mild.”

    In all cases of inflammation, it goes away in a matter of days and there have been no deaths. Covid on the other hand…

  52. Arians: “I don’t see a reason not to be vaccinated.”

    Headline from CDC today: “Vaccine may be causing heart inflammation in young men”

    There’s your reason, Bruce. It’s unproven. Encouraging people to inject themselves with an unproven and largely untested drug is insanity. Especially when the group that’s being encouraged is almost assuredly not going to die or have any long term issues if they catch the virus. It’s time to get over this insanity already.

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    Incorrect, all three vaccines are tested and proven. They just haven’t gone through the lengthy full FDA approval process. But, they were tested enough to permit them to be used during the pandemic. It always bears repeating, the risks of getting Covid are worse than any of the reported side effects.

    Regarding the reported myocarditis, it’s concerning, but cases are generally mild and most people recover completely.

    Please don’t spread disinformation.

  53. It is apparent that nobody wants to talk about this issue rationally or reasonably. It has been politicized from day one by both sides of the aisle. Is Covid a deadly disease? Yes, of course it is. But it is most deadly for people in certain groups; the elderly, people with comorbidities. For the young, and healthy people, Covid is as life-threatening as the seasonal flu where the survival rate is greater than 99.5%. So, the vaccines are a godsend, mainly for those people in the most vulnerable groups like the elderly and those with comorbidities. The problem with the vaccines is that they are still in the experimental phases. They have not been fully approved by the FDA. They have only been approved for emergency use. So, they should only be used for people who see Covid as an emergency, meaning the elderly or those with comorbidities who only have a 95% survival rate. Those people are willing to take the risk of potential complications from an experimental vaccine because the risk of dying from Covid is very high with them. But for the people where the risk of dying from Covid is very low, taking on the risk of an experimental vaccine may not be worth it. The fact that we group everyone together and not factor in the differences of the threat based on age and health is the reason why so many bad decisions were made, i.e. shutting down schools preventing young and healthy people who were not vulnerable from living their lives for a year while sending Covid positive patients to nursing homes which killed tens of thousands of senior citizens. We have known this for 15 months but are still not following it. People talk about follow the science, but no one does, they just want to jam their opinions down everyone’s throat.

  54. Brady should lead by example and get vaccinated. Other players will follow.

  55. You are not only taking the vaccine because you think that your risk is higher, reducing the number of infection whether the symptoms are mild or severe is important for reducing the chance of potentially deadlier mutations

  56. unsunder says:
    June 10, 2021 at 4:48 pm
    Arians: “I don’t see a reason not to be vaccinated.”

    Headline from CDC today: “Vaccine may be causing heart inflammation in young men”

    There’s your reason, Bruce. It’s unproven. Encouraging people to inject themselves with an unproven and largely untested drug is insanity. Especially when the group that’s being encouraged is almost assuredly not going to die or have any long term issues if they catch the virus. It’s time to get over this insanity already.

    ================================================

    Incorrect, all three vaccines are tested and proven. They just haven’t gone through the lengthy full FDA approval process. But, they were tested enough to permit them to be used during the pandemic. It always bears repeating, the risks of getting Covid are worse than any of the reported side effects.

    Regarding the reported myocarditis, it’s concerning, but cases are generally mild and most people recover completely.

    Please don’t spread disinformation.

    ————————————————————-

    The vaccines have only been approved for emergency use. The FDA has a full lengthy process of approval for a reason. It is better and safer to do it that way. You say don’t spread disinformation, then you try to argue that the emergency approval process is just as good as the full process. It isn’t. If it were, then they would always use the quicker process.

    You then say the myocarditis cases are generally mild, and most people recover completely. You can make the exact same statement with Covid. I know at least 20 people who tested positive for Covid. Half of them showed no symptoms. The rest had flulike symptoms for about a day or two, then fully recovered. You are the one spreading disinformation.

  57. nflxpert says:
    June 10, 2021 at 1:37 pm
    60% of CDC employees refuse– why can’t NFL players?
    ———————————–

    This is false.

  58. sweetnlow44 says:
    June 10, 2021 at 4:14 pm
    Arians: “I don’t see a reason not to be vaccinated.”

    Headline from CDC today: “Vaccine may be causing heart inflammation in young men”

    There’s your reason, Bruce. It’s unproven. Encouraging people to inject themselves with an unproven and largely untested drug is insanity. Especially when the group that’s being encouraged is almost assuredly not going to die or have any long term issues if they catch the virus. It’s time to get over this insanity already.
    ______________

    The only insanity that we are dealing with is the outrageous conspiracy theories propounded by wacko anti-vaxxers.

    mRNA vaccines have been researched and tested for over 20 years. The covid19 vaccines have been subjected to rigorous testing. Despite what talk radio tells you, no one has grown a horn or a third arm from being vaccinated. It is interesting that the same people who distrust the CDC’s approval of the vaccines emergency use turn right around and cite a CDC statement to support their ridiculous anti-vaccine ignorance.

  59. gibson45 says:
    June 11, 2021 at 8:58 am

    The only insanity that we are dealing with is the outrageous conspiracy theories propounded by wacko anti-vaxxers.

    mRNA vaccines have been researched and tested for over 20 years. The covid19 vaccines have been subjected to rigorous testing. Despite what talk radio tells you, no one has grown a horn or a third arm from being vaccinated. It is interesting that the same people who distrust the CDC’s approval of the vaccines emergency use turn right around and cite a CDC statement to support their ridiculous anti-vaccine ignorance.

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    If they have been tested for over 20 years and been subject to rigorous testing, why hasn’t the FDA approved them for more than emergency use? Why? If they have had the same rigorous testing that the other vaccines they approve get, why are they not approved the same way. You can make all the big statement you want. I watch the actions of the FDA. If they won’t put their butt on the line, I’m not going to. Over 100 million doses have been administered and still no official approval? Why? I am not an anti-vaxxer. I have taken many vaccines in my life, vaccines that are fully approved. I don’t take experimental vaccines for a disease that I have a 99.5% of fully recovering from.

  60. nflxpert says:
    June 10, 2021 at 1:37 pm
    60% of CDC employees refuse– why can’t NFL players?
    //
    Wrong….the actual statistics are, around 60% of those employees have voluntarily stated they have been vaccinated. However, reporting that you’ve been vaccinated isn’t even a requirement.

  61. Why is this so hard? When my parents moved states as a young teen I could not attend public school or play any school sports without showing proof of vaccination.

    When I joined the military vaccination was not a option. If I wanted to serve I had to be vaccinated.

    Make it mandatory. You want to play in the NFL you need to be vaccinated.

  62. Browns passed on Arians. you’re destined for greatness if you are passed on by the Browns with Nick Chubb being the lone exception

  63. “If you wanna go back to normal, get vaccinated,” Arians added. “Eighty-five percent is what we’re shooting for. . . . It’s still a personal choice, but I don’t see a reason not to be vaccinated.”

    This is the right message to send. It puts the onus on the player to defend not getting vaccinated, and potentially setting the team back. There is a lot of misinformation out there on Covid vaccinations that players can be disabused from when having that discussion.

    As someone else mentioned, it’s mandatory for kids to get vaccinated for different diseases before attending school. Has been that may for decades. Same for military. Organizations like the NFL and others should simply make it mandatory. Problem solved.

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