The awkward dance continues between the Packers, Aaron Rodgers

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It’s still unclear what Aaron Rodgers wants. It’s becoming increasingly unclear what Packers CEO Mark Murphy is trying to accomplish.

Whatever is going on, this timeless quote from Jim Halpert keeps coming to mind: “Michael and Jan seem to be playing their own separate game, and it’s called ‘Let’s See How Uncomfortable We Can Make Our Guests,’ and, they’re both winning.”

The guests, obviously, are the folks who regard Havarti as haberdashery. They’re caught in the middle of the awkward dance that continues to unfold as the clock ticks toward Week One.

For now, we’ll assume that Murphy isn’t accidentally stirring the pot when he writes that the Rodgers situation is dividing the fan base and says, quoting the late Ted Thompson, that Rodgers is a “complicated fella.” We’ll assume that Murphy’s words are deliberate, strategic.

So what’s the goal? The obvious objective would be to get fans to line up behind the laundry, as fans typically do. At a deeper level, Murphy could be trolling Rodgers, hoping to prompt him to depart from his own strategy and respond emotionally. At an even deeper level, Murphy could be trying to bait Rodgers into not showing up for training camp. Or to not showing up at all this year.

That would allow the Packers to pick up more than $30 million in cash and cap space. That would allow them to develop Jordan Love. That would allow them to trade Rodgers after the season. That would allow them to continue to squat on Rodgers indefinitely, if they want. They’d get back another $11.5 million next year, and they’d never have to worry about him matching his one Super Bowl appearance in Green Bay with a Super Bowl appearance in Denver or Las Vegas or somewhere else.

There’s a chance that’s precisely what Murphy wants. If Rodgers never plays again, Murphy never looks bad. And if Jordan Love never turns into a potential franchise quarterback, well, that wasn’t Murphy’s call, was it?

85 responses to “The awkward dance continues between the Packers, Aaron Rodgers

  1. And we continue to see why one of the most talented QBs in history has only one ring. Aaron is only about Aaron.

  2. I already know plenty of packer fans that have been sick of rodgers’ diva attitude for years. He’s not winning many fans right now. The packers aren’t losing many. Rodgers can stay home and the Packers will still have a years-long waiting list for season tickets. Time to move on. Rodgers has shown in the last five years that he is incapable of letting grudges go and incapable of being appeased. I wouldn’t blame the Packers at all for squatting on him until he either plays or retires.

  3. If he’s not going to play, then why wait to trade him? If your goal is to get maximum value, why wait a year? One year older for an aging QB, one more year lost for Rodgers closing window. Count me among the many who have no clue to what’s going on.

  4. Perhaps Murphy is telling it like it is regarding a divided fan base from the correspondence that he is receiving .

  5. And we continue to see why one of the most talented QBs in history has only one ring. Aaron is only about Aaron.
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    Aaron didn’t say anything. He’s never said anything like that. That’s just a talking point for dumb internet trolls who jump on every bandwagon that comes around. What you should have said is “I see why two of the most talented qb’s in history only have 1 ring each, because management has its collective heads up it’s collective …”

  6. Rodgers is just an example of over paid athletes who we actually think we care about them off the field/court!

  7. redeemerac says:
    June 12, 2021 at 10:15 am
    If he’s not going to play, then why wait to trade him? If your goal is to get maximum value, why wait a year? One year older for an aging QB, one more year lost for Rodgers closing window. Count me among the many who have no clue to what’s going oN
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    Agreed, but I think it makes sense to wait another month or so, just before training camp opens, and the Raiders want to make a big splash for the season by flying Rogers in to Vegas. I think the Packers would get a handful of nice nice picks and maybe even a true veteran QB in Carr whom they could slot into a starting role if Love isn’t ready.

  8. “If Rodgers never plays again, Murphy never looks bad.”
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    That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. The odds of Jordan Love leading the Packers to as many wins this season as Aaron Rodgers would is ridiculously low. I estimate the Vegas odds on that as +1,000. If Jordan Love is a bust, then Murphy will look like the worst team executive in the league.

  9. redeemerac says:
    June 12, 2021 at 10:15 am
    If he’s not going to play, then why wait to trade him? If your goal is to get maximum value, why wait a year? One year older for an aging QB, one more year lost for Rodgers closing window. Count me among the many who have no clue to what’s going on.
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    Like Florio said it’s about Murphy saving face. While he may not get the capital for Rodgers. Whether he shows up or not, Murphy wins. Shows up he “played his cards” right. Doesn’t, all the Packers fans will be mad at Rodgers instead of Murphy (as they are now) as the ball was seemingly in Rodgers court.

    Imo Rodgers should sit out and come back the later half of the season to collect his checks. The fan base has already turned on him, might as well stick it good to Murphy on the way out.

  10. Green Bay is a second rate town with turncoat fans. They don’t deserve the Goat, Aaron Rodgers any longer.

  11. I am a GB season ticket holder and have watched Murphy over the years. This guy is anything but strategic. I see a rudderless, clueless clown who’s frustration with his own inability to deal with the situation is boiling over into what are becoming famously dumb statements. He himself once said the less said the better to resolve the Rodgers dilemma. Then he comes up with a series of dumb statements to the contrary. I agree the problem may not be with Gute, it is likely Murphy. After all, Murphy is the one who came up with the current idiotic front office structure where the coach, GM and salary cap guy all report directly to Murphy. Murphy is the one to which the “don’t be that guy” statement is attributed. Maybe Murphy is the easiest guy to replace in this equation to come to a solution.

  12. golforepar says:
    June 12, 2021 at 10:25 am
    Rodgers is just an example of over paid athletes who we actually think we care about them off the field/court!
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    I am certain that AR, Brady, LeBron James,Mike Trout, and all other superstar athletes do not care one bit whether you care about them or not.

  13. “The Awkward Dance” is really musical chairs with only one chair left.

  14. In years to come when people talk about who the GOAT is, Rodgers will be in a class of his own. Followed by Brady,Montana others. No one ever will come lose to Rodgers.

  15. The goal is obvious. Make Rodgers the bad guy if he doesn’t show up. Make the team seem like they always wanted him back if he does. It’s a soft peddling of media and fan manipulation. They most likely don’t care one way or the other, as long as the fans are behind the team.

  16. Green Bay should just trade Rodgers to New England and get it over with. Who wouldn’t be OK with a Brady vs Belichick Super Bowl?

  17. A team with no owner has no control. This franchise was gifted two HOF QB’s in a 30 year span and butchered the departure of both.

    Welcome to Detroit, Green Bay… take a look at your future.

  18. dirkspunk says:
    June 12, 2021 at 11:18 am
    In years to come when people talk about who the GOAT is, Rodgers will be in a class of his own. Followed by Brady,Montana others. No one ever will come lose to Rodgers.

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    Rogers isn’t even in the top 2 QBs in Packers’ history….let alone the entire NFL

  19. pkrlvr says:
    June 12, 2021 at 10:24 am
    And we continue to see why one of the most talented QBs in history has only one ring. Aaron is only about Aaron.
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    Aaron didn’t say anything. He’s never said anything like that. That’s just a talking point for dumb internet trolls who jump on every bandwagon that comes around
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    So, you think Rodgers has to be quoted as saying “it’s all about me” in order to believe he thinks that? Man, some people wouldn’t believe the obvious if you hit them over the head with it. I guess we could ask somebody close to him what they think, but nobody like that exists.

  20. Who cares? Rodgers is a total spoiled diva. And the Packers don’t appreciate what he has done for them. Both sides are idiots and who cares.

  21. I don’t understand why Green Bay just won’t trade him? The value is here right now. If they wait then that’s one whole less year for a QB that has maybe 3-5 years left in the tank. They already drafted his replacement so just pull the trigger.

  22. The Packers should have traded Rodgers the day the season ended.
    They are not as good as their record , and they could have received a lot for him.
    Instead they will be ok for a year then fade, and wont get the boat load of picks.

  23. easygoer says:
    June 12, 2021 at 11:07 am
    After all, Murphy is the one who came up with the current idiotic front office structure where the coach, GM and salary cap guy all report directly to Murphy.
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    Almost all successful organizations have one person at the top with the ultimate decision making authority. Corporations have CFOs (like Russ Ball), and a head of Human Resources (the equivalent of the head coach) who report directly to the CEO, the ultimate decision maker.

    What is the difference between having LaFleur and Ball reporting directly to Gutekunst, with Gutekunst reporting to Murphy, and having all three report directly to Murphy? Murphy is the ultimate decision maker regardless of whether Gutekunst is the intermediary or not.

    Having all three report directly to Murphy means that issues being raised by LaFleur and Ball are not lost in the translation from Gutekunst to Murphy. Clearer communication benefits the entire organization.

  24. Part of me respects Rogers for his ability to cut negative people out of his life, I’m sure having F you money helps and makes it easy, but it’s still a rare and admirable trait. I’ve done it myself with toxic friends and even some family members. It does feel pretty good.

  25. A HOF player gets old so the team drafts another player at that position.
    Is that a reason to melt down?

  26. jg2040 says:
    June 12, 2021 at 10:08 am
    And we continue to see why one of the most talented QBs in history has only one ring. Aaron is only about Aaron.
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    I’m starting to think perhaps the GB front office might not be perfect, in fairness…

  27. What I don’t understand is why Rodgers doesn’t come right out and say what his problem with the Packers is. If he did that, I’d have a little respect for him. Because then the Packers could respond and everyone would know exactly what the problem for both sides is and they could form their opinions based on that.
    Right now, all we have is opinions and conjecture. It makes Rodgers look like the diva everyone says he is, in my opinion.
    I think that those people criticizing the Packers front office would change their opinions if Rodgers canme out and told us what his problem is, because everyone would see that the Packers can’t do what he wants them to do.

  28. What’s take his issue?

    He ran McCarthy out of town with vague subliminal in interviews. Got what he wanted with a more modern offense. Pro Bowl WR and a very talented RB.

    Go to the NFCCG twice and couldn’t make enough plays.

    Who is he mad at again?

  29. I think that Rodgers is a better QB than Brady, but when people rate “the best of all time”, Super Bowl Rings matter the most

  30. Rogers finally got stuck in this dead-end street.
    He supposed to be smart. If your plan fails, change it.

  31. How is it unclear what he wants? What else does he need to do, stand in front of the stadium with a sign demanding to be traded?

  32. I despise Aaron Rodgers, although I respect his talent.

    I cannot stand the Packers organizational culture, but I respect & appreciate the tradition in the lore of the NFL.

    But there is something fundamentally disgusting about a man desiring that another man never play a game again.

  33. What I don’t understand is why Rodgers doesn’t come right out and say what his problem with the Packers is. If he did that, I’d have a little respect for him
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    You’re making the giant assumption that because he hasn’t done it through the media, he hasn’t done it at all.

  34. I think that Rodgers is a better QB than Brady, but when people rate “the best of all time”, Super Bowl Rings matter the most
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    I agree with both points, but it shouldn’t be like that. There are 21 other players that factor in, not to mention coaching. How can we say one individual is better than another because their team accomplished more? Like when people say Brady beat Rodgers in the Championship game. Tampa beat the Packers, but swap defenses and what would have happened? If you were somehow able to get a look at the qb stat lines before the game, every one of you would have placed your bet on the Packers.

  35. I have no clue whatsoever what the behind-the-scenes issues are or the resolutions of same. I only know one thing for certain: Nobody else does either.

    I’m mildly amused why so many fans, haters and lovers alike, feel entitled to make this business their own. Let it play out. It’s just a game.

  36. If Murphy and Rodgers are playing mind-chess, or Twister, it doesn’t seem to be accomplishing much for either side. If they do not communicate both Rodgers’ and the Packers management’s interests will be hurt: Less time will mean fewer negotiated and/or trade options.

  37. Rodgers wants a new contract and I am the man in green bay or somewhere else, whether love is ready or not is moot. Green bay knows he isn’t im betting The ego wins this war.

  38. radar8 says:
    June 12, 2021 at 12:08 pm
    I think that Rodgers is a better QB than Brady, but when people rate “the best of all time”, Super Bowl Rings matter the most

    6 1 Rate This

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    If true, he would have taken advantage of Brady’s horrendous nfc title game where Rodgers’s D picked Brady THREE times.

  39. Rodgers attitude is really a shame. He is SO talented and smart. I remember my Eagles playing him in GB about 5-6 years sgo. He was literally laughing at our defense….totally took us apart. His comebacks and toughness are legendary. But he’s such a diva….so sensitive and aloof. So passive aggressive. As much as the Packers messed this up, it would be better to move on now.

  40. It’s stunning that an NFL team is doing its best to convince the reigning MVP NOT to show up.

  41. As a Packer fan, if its Rodgers vs Murphy im 100 percent Rodgers. Murphy is much more replaceable than a HOF QB. If its Rodgers vs Gutekunst than thats a bit tougher decision. Both guys contributed to a team thats been to 2 consecutive NFC championship games.

    Gute has built a talented roster around Rodgers and hired a damn good coach in Matt LaFluer. Yeah he might have made a mistake drafting Jordan Love over say Chase Claypool or someone that would have helped immediately but it happened and thats just water under the bridge at this point.

    I think maybe the board of directors needs to get involved and move on from Murphy if he’s the problem in this fractured relationship with Rodgers. If its more than that for Rodgers than he needs to say what he wants exactly so they can fix the problem or move on if its unfixable.

  42. I believe they offered a new contract that he either turned down or doesnt want to discuss right now. I believe he pretty much said versus his beautiful mind analogy that he was dissed by them not telling him in advance of the Love pick. I think its up to them to just find out what do you want? I mean do they think that he will show for training camp and everthing will be fine? That’s my guess, otherwise why not confront him and get it over with.

  43. This thing will end up costing the entire GB front office their jobs. They screwed a great thing up by drafting Love in the first place, then tried to trade Rodgers and screwed that up. Now the price and number of potential trade partners have dropped has dropped so they are left with trying to prod Rodgers into saying something to alienate the fan base. They will eventually trade him and after back to back 4 win seasons the fans will be irate. Clean front office sweep coming in two years.

  44. What is the difference between having LaFleur and Ball reporting directly to Gutekunst, with Gutekunst reporting to Murphy, and having all three report directly to Murphy? Murphy is the ultimate decision maker regardless of whether Gutekunst is the intermediary or not.

    To see the Huge Difference all one needs to do is look at the Packers record from 1968 until Ron Wolf (Mike Holmgren) arrived under the structure that Murphy put back in place, it was abysmal. Bob Harlan saved this franchise by getting rid of that structure and giving the GM full authority. I don’t know what Rodgers issue or issues are but in reference to how the team is run his best example should have been the firing of McCarthy right after a loss with 4 games left in the season which was class less, the team didn’t fire Scooter McClean after a 1 win 1 tie season, they let him resign at the end of the season and I would think McCarthy would have had enough sense to do the same knowing his message and system didn’t resonate any longer. After only 2 full losing seasons in 13 seasons and one world title he should have been allowed to resign, thank him for his service and wish him well going forward. I would like to know if Murphy had the approval of the Executive Committee to do this or did it on his own, if so it is even more class less. He made himself the Packers CZAR and hand picked his GM, the organization hugely miscalculated how long their elite QB could play and rightly or wrongly picked his successor who the team had valued much higher than their competition. THEY NOW HAVE TO LIVE WITH THEIR DECISIONS.

  45. So first, Rogers is ticked off they drafted Love. A lot of teams draft the best player available when it is their turn. Apparently Rogers feels drafting at a different position would have helped the team improve. That’s probably true.

    However apparently in the middle of a hefty contract Rogers wanted more money. In a year where the cap was lowered Rogers wants more $$$$. That’s not going to help field a better team.

    He hasn’t really come out publicly and stated what he wants. He didn’t show up this week. Nobody knew if he would or wouldn’t, they just guested.

    So maybe he wants to make personal decisions, maybe he wants to make contract decisions, who the hell really knows what he wants.

    So guess what? He IS complicated, the whole situation is complicated.

    If I was a GB fan I wouldn’t be very happy with Aaron. He’s got a hefty contract, he’s the starting QG, What else does he need a crown on his head?

  46. The Packers need to see what they have in Love. Even if Rodgers comes back this season, things are too rocky and the media will just compound the awkwardness any opportunity they can get.

    There’s a good chance the Packers will be grabbing another first round QB in next years draft. They need to accumulate some draft picks and give themselves a chance to move up, in case Love is as bad as it looks.

  47. I wouldn’t hitch my wagon to Rodgers. He will be done in a few years. Packers are tired of Rodgers thinking he is the smartest guy in the room. The fans have had about enough of him and we are hoping Love can be average this year so we have something to build on for next year.

  48. What are packer fans going to do with their framed pictures of Aaron Rodgers?

  49. Ownership and fanbase must be sick of Rogers holding them hostage by now but what alternatives do they have? Need a guy to step in that is good and could be respected by all including players. Love is not that guy.. not yet if ever. Someone like a Ryan Fitzpatrick would have been that kind of guy. Competitive guy that makes football fun for everybody. Rogers seems to have lost the fun aspect of being a football team’s leader. Its almost like watching Lebron James. I’d rather find something else to do.

  50. That would allow the Packers to pick up more than $30 million in cash and cap space.
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    Or Rodgers unretires late in the season. Get credit for the season and hoses packer’s cap space

  51. I would hope that if I had the talent, money, intelligence, movie star girlfriends, etc. that Aaron does, I would be a happier person than he seems to be.

  52. I totally understand Packer fans taking the team’s side over a player. Players come and go your team is always your team but if your neutral and look at the facts the Packers messed this up every way possible. Passing on Jefferson,Higgins and Claypool to take Jordan Love when your Championship window is open is inexcusable and cost the Packers a legit shot at winning a Super Bowl last season. Is Rodgers a diva? Absolutely but he’s capable of leading a team to a Championship and the Packers decided to worry about the future over a Championship run. That should get Murphy and Gute fired.

  53. The worst outcome for the Packers would be for Rodgers not to show up for week 1; but report to the team mid-season in time to get an accrued year so his current contract isn’t tolled to next year. Having Rodgers on the roster while he gets in football shape or on the bench because the Packers are doing fine or whatever reason one can think of, the mid-season disruption is an outcome Rodgers probably is angling for.

  54. Can you imagine Rodgers being traded in March. They will get a first pick in the draft as well as their own top 5 pick. That is going to make the rest of the NFC North very jealous.

  55. Second time in a week Murphy has taken an unprovoked shot at Rodgers.

    It would be interesting to know if there has been any QB with Rodgers’ resume (3 MVPS, 1 SB MVP, 1 SB title) who has been as unappreciated as he has been for the bulk of his time in Green Bay.

    Truly freaking amazing how stupid this franchise has been.

  56. HeavyD says:
    June 12, 2021 at 3:10 pm
    The worst outcome for the Packers would be for Rodgers not to show up for week 1; but report to the team mid-season in time to get an accrued year so his current contract isn’t tolled to next year. Having Rodgers on the roster while he gets in football shape or on the bench because the are doing fine or whatever reason one can think of, the mid-season disruption is an outcome Rodgers probably is angling for.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

    My guess is he’d mysteriously fail his physical if he tried that. He won’t. He’ll be there Opening Day.

  57. bobbydouglass says:
    June 12, 2021 at 2:22 pm
    I would hope that if I had the talent, money, intelligence, movie star girlfriends, etc. that Aaron does, I would be a happier person than he seems to be.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    I don’t know what you’re watching, but he looks pretty damn content to me.

  58. Sad to see an individual who has it all (in our eyes) be so unhappy. Proves if you can’t master contentment you’ll never find happiness….

  59. Rodgers’ act is growing stale. He is pissing off the fan base and a lot of his team mates. The fact of the matter is that the Packers have all the leverage. Rodgers is signed through 2023 and if he were to sit out this season he would owe Green Bay over $35 million. I keep hearing about the Packers “disrespecting” Rodgers. That’s a bunch of crap. Based on what James Jones has says, Rodgers’ problem seems to be with the Packers not resigning players like Nelson and Cobb. That’s a front office decision. Rodgers is not the GM. Both players took more money from other teams and that’s fine. Football is a business. Most players would like to keep their friends around. But if Rodgers would just come out and say what the issue is then perhaps this thing can be settled. But he won’t because the guy loves drama. As a long time Packers fan, I’m ready to move on. It will take Love time to get going but at least he showed up to training camp. Football is a team game and no player is above it.

  60. The Colts didn’t go after Andrew Luck’s signing bonus and the Packers shouldn’t go after Aaron’s. Especially if they’re the ones who are forcing him to retire by holding onto him against his will.

  61. gibson45 says:
    June 12, 2021 at 11:40 am
    easygoer says:
    June 12, 2021 at 11:07 am
    After all, Murphy is the one who came up with the current idiotic front office structure where the coach, GM and salary cap guy all report directly to Murphy.
    ___________

    Almost all successful organizations have one person at the top with the ultimate decision making authority. Corporations have CFOs (like Russ Ball), and a head of Human Resources (the equivalent of the head coach) who report directly to the CEO, the ultimate decision maker.
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    Only someone in HR would think they are equivalent to head coach. Trainer? Maybe. Head coach – uh no…
    Murphy conveniently hangs Gute out to dry and Aaron is not communicating thru the press as Murphy is. As a Vikings fan, I’d love to have that diva qb for a couple years!

  62. Most franchises would wilt under this sort of pressure. Fortunately we are talking about the Green Bay Packers – the most successful franchise in NFL history.

  63. First off let me say Rogers is one of the best QBs to ever play the game. That being said he’s also one of the biggest D-bags to ever walk on the field. Think about this, his own family doesn’t like him, the only woman that can stand him is a phycho activist that doesn’t even wash her hair. His biggest problem is he is a huge narcissist. Watch the next MNF game and listen to him in introductions. He was drafted from Cal but in introductions he call Butte Community College his school. Why, because he is still after 20 years butt hurt he didn’t receive a division 1 scholarship offer. Maybe because he threw for a high school career 2900 yards in 2 seasons. Compare that to Will Grier 14,565 yards and 195 TDs in 4 years or Kyler Murray 8384 yards and 100 passing TDs and another 42 rushing TDS in 2 years. That’s why he didn’t get offers. As smart as he is you would think he could figure that out but his enormous ego won’t let him. And for those claiming he’s the GOAT LOL all I can say is he has one ring Brady has 7.

  64. In 2012 after winning the Super Bowl in 2011, AR proclaimed in an interview that he told his mother “I’ve proved I’m a great QB, now my only goal is to be a better man.” Well done hombre, you’ve managed to irritate virtually everyone for almost 10 years. Good hustle! Effed that one up worse than the NFC Playoff games.

  65. philmccracken says:
    June 12, 2021 at 5:04 pm
    Most franchises would wilt under this sort of pressure. Fortunately we are talking about the Green Bay Packers – the most successful franchise in NFL history.

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    Two SBs in 25 years is not successful….it’s downright mediocre

  66. Two SBs in 25 years is not successful….it’s downright mediocre.

    Thank you Vikings fan

  67. I always like the part where the same guys that have spent 15 years talking about how terrible Rodgers is and how overrated he is and all that, then turn right around and say the Packers, who have won more games than any team not named the Patriots over the last 20 years, would be lucky to win 5 games a year without Rodgers. That’s known as “talking out of both ends.”

  68. pl30 says:
    June 12, 2021 at 4:54 pm
    The Colts didn’t go after Andrew Luck’s signing bonus and the Packers shouldn’t go after Aaron’s. Especially if they’re the ones who are forcing him to retire by holding onto him against his will.
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    The Colts felt guilty that they nearly got Lucky killed with terrible o-line personnel.

  69. My Crystal Ball tells me that Doug Peterson will be hired in Green Bay.. sooner than later ..

  70. radar8 says:
    June 12, 2021 at 12:08 pm
    I think that Rodgers is a better QB than Brady, but when people rate “the best of all time”, Super Bowl Rings matter the most
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    That’s like saying Trent Dilfer was a better quarterback than Dan Marino. Best quarterback is the measure of an individual and his talent and skill sets. Most SuperBowl wins is the measurement of a team. Tom Brady led his teams to SuperBowl victories. That does not mean he’s the best. It means he’s the luckiest. He’s the LOAT.

  71. stellarperformance says:
    June 12, 2021 at 7:08 pm
    radar8 says:
    June 12, 2021 at 12:08 pm
    I think that Rodgers is a better QB than Brady, but when people rate “the best of all time”, Super Bowl Rings matter the most
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    That’s like saying Trent Dilfer was a better quarterback than Dan Marino. Best quarterback is the measure of an individual and his talent and skill sets. Most SuperBowl wins is the measurement of a team. Tom Brady led his teams to SuperBowl victories. That does not mean he’s the best. It means he’s the luckiest. He’s the LOAT.

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    You badmouthing Brady is about like the purples badmouthing Rodgers. It makes no sense and can only come from a place of jealousy. As bad as I hate to say it, Brady’s the G.O.A.T., pure and simple (and I only hate to say it because Brady took that title from Bart Starr).

    I never thought anybody would surpass Bart’s 5 Championships, especially in today’s world of NFL parity. Then Brady won his 6th… and then he went and won his 7th… in his first year with a whole new team. And I wouldn’t be shocked if he wins another one or two before he’s done.

    Give Brady his due. The man has earned it.

  72. I did not say Brady wasn’t talented or didn’t deserve his rings. Look at it this way:

    Brett Favre has the NFL record for the most interceptions. That’s not because he was the most terrible passer in the history of the game. It’s because he played for so long!

    Every quarterback, every year, by hook or by crook, has their fair share of timely luck at one point or another every season, some years more often than others. Brady has been around forever and he’s certainly had his fair share. Take his longevity into account and he’s had his fair share more often than anybody else. It’s purely conjecture on my part but I contend he’s the luckiest of all time. That makes him LOAT. My take is not illogical.

  73. You see this so much in companies today where management and operations do not know how to communicate. Aaron Rodgers is the head of production and operations. He has seventeen years of experience. Your company is run by operations. If management doesn’t see that, they will be screwed for years to come. If the GM can’t make this relationship work, then he needs to go.

  74. The comments on this thread are hilarious. To the point.. if the PA kid acted like a MAN… Stated his case in plain terms right off the bat, ie: I want to change a scenery.. fine. Yet that is not what we got… Rather all this gamesmanship to see who gets the most egg on his face… To move fan sentiment. My shiny polished penny is on Murphy LOL.

  75. Aaron is all about Aaron…..it’s why Favre got drove outta town…. since then he’s been pretty good but he’s not a team guy. He’s all about himself and what he wants. SO he wants a say in who’s drafted? WOW….. why don’t we all go to work and tell our bosses what we want too……see how far we get with that. He has to realize that someday he’ll be done and the team needs to be ready for that…… he’s a whiner.

  76. What is going to happen is that Rodgers will show up for training camp and be the starting quarterback this season on the agreement that the Packers trade him early in 2022.this will satisfy both parties and the Packers can draft a quarterback with one of the first round picks they recieve for Rodgers and Rodgers can leave Green Bay happy.

  77. I’m pretty sure that’s a pipe dream. Rodgers will report to the team right before the deadline to show and get the season accrued credit. Doing so maximizes the pressure he exerts over the team.

  78. Aaron should not retire. He would be giving Mark Murphy exactly what he wants.

    Rodgers should show up and be the Problem that Mark Murphy didnt want Aaron to be.

  79. cheeseisfattening says:
    June 12, 2021 at 2:11 pm

    What are packer fans going to do with their framed pictures of Aaron Rodgers?

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    Put them on the wall next to all their other Hall Of Fame players and pictures of all their championship teams.

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