Tom Brady knows the train is pulling into the station

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Of the all quotes from Tom Brady‘s appearance on HBO’s The Shop: Uninterrupted to gain traction, the most obvious statement he made has generated nearly as much buzz as anything else he said.

“We’re coming to the end,” he said at one point. “It’s coming to the end.”

Of course it is. He’ll be 44 in a few weeks. His self-imposed expiration date — the 2022 season, which begins with him turning 45 — is a year away.

Even if he somehow goes beyond 45, and he recently suggested he might do just that, he’s far, far closer to the end than the beginning.

So, yes, it’s indeed coming to the end. It would be much more significant if he didn’t say that.

That said, his arm won’t significantly weaken for years to come. The question is whether he’ll still be able to avoid contact with his legs. He firmly has entered (wisely) a duck-and-cover portion of his career, getting rid of the ball quickly (sometimes too quickly) in order to avoid taking a big hit. The defensive players chasing him around are bigger, stronger, faster, and a lot younger.

Father Time remains undefeated for a reason. Father Tom has defied him longer than anyone else. However long it lasts, it surely can’t last a whole lot longer.

42 responses to “Tom Brady knows the train is pulling into the station

  1. As long as the NFL refs protect him I don’t see why he can’t play till he is 50. He obviously isn’t ready to grow up yet.

  2. So lucky to witness the eras of the goat, Montana, Marino, young, Favre, Brees, and rodgers.

  3. Brady vs Father Time is in the 12th round. Father Time is going to win this bout but only Brady has gone this far against him.

  4. Brady has never won with athleticism. He has the arm strength he needs, but he beats teams with his mind more than anything.

  5. I hope he doesn’t BUT, he may regret not retiring in February after the Superbowl ?

    Time WILL tell us……

  6. You’ll never see this again – EVER. This is something that comes along once in a lifetime. His records will NEVER be broken. Mahomes is a great quarterback, but his style of play limits the time he’ll be able to play in this league. Injuries will end his time before he even gets to 15 years in this league let alone 20. I don’t see him reaching 10 Superbowls either. It’s funny to look back now and remember when there were people who thought Manning was the better quarterback. That’s laughable. Rodgers is Brett Favre 2.0. Brees was good but not upper echelon. Brady is on another level. The haters are going to keep hating there’s no stopping that, and that nonsense is what fuels Tom’s desire to keep playing. So keep hating, and sit back and watch history in the making

  7. The NFL modern day Mt. Olympus has Brady and the Patriots at the pinnacle, Montana/Young and the 49ers a rung lower, Bradshaw/Rothlisberger and the Steelers a tad shy of San Fran and alongside Staubach/Aikman and the Cowboys. Elway/Manning and the Broncos round out that echelon.

    Eli is knocking at the door but can’t get in nor do Favre and Brees. Marino and Rogers are not even in the discussion. This is about winning, not stats nor raw talent.

    Trying to separate the QB from the players and coaches that got these QBs there is a disservice to all. Post salary cap wins is a sign of true champions.

  8. Love to see how long he would last under the same rules QBs like Marino, Elway and Bradshaw played under.

  9. We’ll never see this level of greatness again. None of these “mobile” QBs will be able to last this long. Elway was the best to combine the two skills that I’ve seen in my lifetime.

  10. Patriots defense will speed up the process on week 4. Defensive players love going against their former QB since they were not allowed hit him in practice. Remember how Robert Mathis went after Manning in his return to Indy with the Denver Broncos. Hightower will do the same to Brady.

  11. icouldcareless says:
    June 27, 2021 at 2:29 pm
    It’s funny to look back now and remember when there were people who thought Manning was the better quarterback. That’s laughable. Rodgers is Brett Favre 2.0. Brees was good but not upper echelon. Brady is on another level.
    ____________

    It all depends on the criteria you are using. For example, if you go solely by championships of course Brady is the best. However, the question of who is the best quarterback involves the consideration of many other categories of abilities.

    For example, Marino is fairly considered the consensus as the best passer of all time. Anyone with knowledge of the game would have considered Manning a better quarterback than Brady when comes to actually playing the position. Rodgers, who is vastly different from Favre, obviously has much more pure talent and ability than does Brady.

    It does not take away from Brady’s championship accomplishments to recognize that there are many quarterbacks who actually played or now play the position better than he does

  12. Considering Brady’s resume consists of so many questionable wins earned through overt cheating and complicity of the NFL on defensive calls not made against his team in the last Snoopy Bowl, I hope this guy earns a dramatic and unpleasant exit from the game. His resume will always be stained by his cheating and complicity in it. There are real QB’s who didn’t cheat that deserve mention as GOAT. A player of Brady’s caliber should never be mentioned.

  13. Love to see how long he would last under the same rules QBs like Marino, Elway and Bradshaw played under.

    Or eeven better, the rules when Starr and Unitas were playing.

  14. Brady obviously thinks the Bucs have what it takes to keep everyone focused enough to win another super bowl, or he would have retired. Either way, I don’t think he comes back again. I’m not really expecting the Bucs to win back-to-back, but if they did, would Tommy come back to try for a three-peat? Tom says we’re coming to an end, and that sounds like he’s ready to get on to the next stage of life.

  15. Marino and Farve both could still sling it at the end….they just threw a LOT of picks

  16. gibson45 says:
    June 27, 2021 at 5:09 pm
    icouldcareless says:
    June 27, 2021 at 2:29 pm
    It’s funny to look back now and remember when there were people who thought Manning was the better quarterback. That’s laughable. Rodgers is Brett Favre 2.0. Brees was good but not upper echelon. Brady is on another level.
    ____________

    It all depends on the criteria you are using. For example, if you go solely by championships of course Brady is the best. However, the question of who is the best quarterback involves the consideration of many other categories of abilities.

    For example, Marino is fairly considered the consensus as the best passer of all time. Anyone with knowledge of the game would have considered Manning a better quarterback than Brady when comes to actually playing the position. Rodgers, who is vastly different from Favre, obviously has much more pure talent and ability than does Brady.

    It does not take away from Brady’s championship accomplishments to recognize that there are many quarterbacks who actually played or now play the position better than he does

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    How about this for criteria: “the ability to lead a team and get the most out of each and every player to the point where the team achieves far more than the simple sum of its parts on a regular basis and especially in critical games”

    To that definition, Marino, Rogers and Manning don’t even enter the conversation.

    Take a look at what Brady’s exit from NE meant to the Patriots last season and his arrival in Tampa Bay meant for the Bucs. Get the picture?

  17. “How about this for criteria: “the ability to lead a team and get the most out of each and every player to the point where the team achieves far more than the simple sum of its parts on a regular basis and especially in critical games”

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    You’re describing the job of the head coach, not the quarterback.

  18. gibson45 says:
    “It does not take away from Brady’s championship accomplishments to recognize that there are many quarterbacks who actually played or now play the position better than he does”

    The use of the word “many” is really stretching it. As Brady said in The Shop video he admitted it comes down to style of playing the position and I have no qualms about people picking their favorite QBs but to suggest there are “many” quarterbacks better than him is disingenuous. He belongs in the Mount Rushmore of quarterbacks however you rank them. Oh just a reminder, Mt Rushmore has 4 faces.

  19. Brady, in 2007, had the single greatest season ever put froward by any NFL QB. 50 TD’s, 7 picks. 18-1, an Assante Samuel gaffe away from a perfect season and unanimously acclaimed as the single greatest team of all time. And BTW, they would have destroyed the ’72 Dolphins.

    Just a single season sample from the GOAT. So many highlights. Incomparable.

  20. Love to see how long he would last under the same rules QBs like Marino, Elway and Bradshaw played under.

    Or eeven better, the rules when Starr and Unitas were playing.

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    Bob Griese had a HOF Career in that era and Starr and Uniats (and Griese) were all 6-1 and under 200lbs.

    At 6-4 225 in top physical condition I think Brady would have been just fine, maybe he doesn’t play 20 years, but smaller, less athletic men carved out HOF careers in the 60s-80s so that’s not a very good argument, just another misguided “hot take”.

  21. How about this for criteria: “the ability to lead a team and get the most out of each and every player to the point where the team achieves far more than the simple sum of its parts on a regular basis and especially in critical games”

    To that definition, Marino, Rogers and Manning don’t even enter the conversation.

    Take a look at what Brady’s exit from NE meant to the Patriots last season and his arrival in Tampa Bay meant for the Bucs. Get the picture?

    ———-
    Many HOF QBs fit that conversation not just Brady. The Patriots won 5 less games without Brady with a worse roster and a free agent QB that no other NFL team wanted to sign. It’s safe to say Brady probably goes 9-7 with 2020 Patriots roster as he doesn’t fumble or throw costly pick like Cam did.

    The Colts went 2-14 without Manning and rebounded with Andrew Luck who probably would have ended up in Canton if he played longer.The Broncos went from perennial SB contenders with Manning to not even making the playoffs since Manning retired. 2016 Broncos still had their SB defense but missed the playoffs. The Broncos are mediocre now because they don’t have a HOF QB.

  22. nhpats2011 says:
    June 27, 2021 at 5:56 pm

    How about this for criteria: “the ability to lead a team and get the most out of each and every player to the point where the team achieves far more than the simple sum of its parts on a regular basis and especially in critical games”

    To that definition, Marino, Rogers and Manning don’t even enter the conversation.

    ————————-

    I agree with your point that it’s safe to say that Brady is the best quarterback at elevating the play of his teammates, but to say Manning or Marino “don’t even enter the conversation” is delusional. According to Pro Football Reference, Manning has more fourth quarter comebacks than Brady. Marino is sixth, with having played less than the players above him. If you’re a quarterback and you bring your team back to win a game, it’s the ultimate ability to instill confidence and perseverance in the players around you.

  23. nhpats2011 says:
    June 27, 2021 at 5:56 pm

    How about this for criteria: “the ability to lead a team and get the most out of each and every player to the point where the team achieves far more than the simple sum of its parts on a regular basis and especially in critical games”

    To that definition, Marino, Rogers and Manning don’t even enter the conversation.

    Take a look at what Brady’s exit from NE meant to the Patriots last season and his arrival in Tampa Bay meant for the Bucs. Get the picture
    ________________

    Sounds like the criteria for a motivational speaker, not an NFL quarterback. Your definition has absolutely nothing to physical aspects of playing the position.

  24. I love it when people say a personal sports record will NEVER, EVER be broken. LOL! They are made to be broken my friend! And, its why we watch. Because they will.

  25. ouchback6 says:
    June 27, 2021 at 6:00 pm.

    ———

    Agreed……now honor the bet

  26. In this society only youth seems to matter so it would be cool to see him play till 50

  27. vottorific says:
    June 27, 2021 at 7:10 pm
    I love it when people say a personal sports record will NEVER, EVER be broken. LOL! They are made to be broken my friend! And, its why we watch. Because they will.
    ______________________________________

    There’s a few records I can think of right off the top of my head that will never be broken, Favre’s career INT record of 336. There’s no way a HC or GM will put up with a QB throwing that many INT’s now days and if a QB threw that many picks he would’d have a long enough career to even come close to the INT King! Favre also holds the fumble record(166 reg season) and the record for total turnovers at 502, also the record for being sacked at 525.

    OH and I almost forgot he has the record for most seasons(14) with 15 or more INT’s.

    Add it all up and it’s why I LMAO when anyone tries to put Favre on the same tier as Manning, Brees, Brady, Montana or Rodgers, hell Favre isn’t even in the same state as those players!

  28. The 4th quarter comeback is a great stat but it doesn’t tell the whole story. Brady has won so many games and has led in the majority of them that him having the 2nd most comebacks all-time and only a few away from having the top spot is amazing. I’d love to know the percentage of these qbs of how many times they were trailing in the 4th quarter and how many times they ended up winning.

  29. Found this from two years ago so some numbers have changed but gives a good indication of who you want when trailing (a guy like Brady) and who you don’t want (a guy like Rodgers)

    Player Team. 4QC 4QCOSuccess
    Andrew LuckCLT 13 25 0.520
    Tom BradyNWE 34 66 0.515
    Peyton ManningTOT 43 88 0.489
    Tony RomoDAL24510.471
    Jake DelhommeTOT19430.442
    Ben RoethlisbergerPIT29680.426
    Derek CarrRAI13310.419
    Andy DaltonCIN18430.419
    Jay CutlerTOT23550.418
    Tim CouchCLE10240.417
    Matthew StaffordDET26650.400
    Matt RyanATL26650.400
    Jay FiedlerMIA8200.400
    Alex SmithTOT18460.391
    Charlie BatchTOT9230.391
    Russell WilsonSEA15390.385
    John ElwayDEN9240.375
    Jake PlummerTOT20540.370
    Marc BulgerRAM12330.364
    Neil O’DonnellTOT10290.345
    Cam NewtonCAR13380.342
    Matt HasselbeckTOT15440.341
    Vinny TestaverdeTOT20590.339
    Drew BreesTOT28830.337
    Jon KitnaTOT18540.333
    Michael VickTOT14420.333
    Trent DilferTOT14420.333
    Ryan TannehillMIA12360.333
    Aaron BrooksNOR12360.333
    Dan MarinoMIA10300.333
    David GarrardJAX10300.333
    Josh FreemanTAM9270.333
    Marcus MariotaOTI7210.333
    Kerry CollinsTOT21650.323
    Joe FlaccoRAV18560.321
    Kirk CousinsWAS8250.320
    Sam BradfordTOT7220.318
    Rich GannonTOT12380.316
    Eli ManningNYG26830.313
    Trent GreenTOT15480.313
    Kordell StewartTOT9290.310
    Donovan McNabbTOT16520.308
    Steve McNairTOT15490.306
    Jeff GarciaTOT11360.306
    Brad JohnsonTOT14460.304
    Byron LeftwichJAX7230.304
    Rick MirerTOT7230.304
    Jeff BlakeTOT12400.300
    Carson PalmerTOT22740.297
    Warren MoonTOT8270.296
    Aaron RodgersTOT 12 42 0.286

  30. Father Time remains undefeated for a reason. Father Tom has defied him longer than anyone else. Jack Lalane says hello 1954 (age 40) – Swam the entire 8,981-foot (1.7 mi; 2.7 km) length of the Golden Gate in San Francisco, under water, with 140 lb (64 kg; 10 st) of air tanks and other equipment strapped to his body; a world record.
    1955 (age 41) – Swam from Alcatraz Island to Fisherman’s Wharf in San Francisco while handcuffed. When interviewed afterwards, he was quoted as saying that the worst thing about the ordeal was being handcuffed, which significantly reduced his ability to do a jumping jack.
    1956 (age 42) – Set what was claimed as a world record of 1,033 push-ups in 23 minutes on You Asked For It, a television program hosted by Art Baker.
    1957 (age 43) – Swam the Golden Gate channel while towing a 2,500 lb (1,130 kg; 180 st) cabin cruiser. The swift ocean currents turned this one-mile (1.6 km) swim into a swimming distance of 6.5 miles (10.5 km).
    1958 (age 44) – Maneuvered a paddleboard nonstop from Farallon Islands to the San Francisco shore. The 30-mile (48 km) trip took 9.5 hours.
    1959 (age 45) – Did 1,000 push ups and 1,000 chin-ups in 1 hour, 22 minutes, to promote The Jack LaLanne Show going nationwide. LaLanne said this was the most difficult of his stunts, but only because the skin on his hands started ripping off during the chin-ups. He felt he couldn’t stop, because it would be seen as a public failure.
    1974 (age 60) – For the second time, he swam from Alcatraz Island to Fisherman’s Wharf. Again, he was handcuffed, but this time he was also shackled and towed a 1,000 lb (450 kg; 71 st) boat, according to his obituary in Los Angeles Times in 2011 and his website.[37] However, according to an account of this event published the day after it occurred in the Los Angeles Times, written by Philip Hager, a Times staff writer, LaLanne was neither handcuffed nor shackled if each of those terms has the conventional meaning of “tightly binding the wrists or ankles together with a pair of metal fasteners.” Hager says that LaLanne “had his hands and feet bound with cords that allowed minimal freedom.” But “minimal” clearly did not mean “no” freedom, since elsewhere in the article Hager describes LaLanne’s method of propulsion through the water as “half-breast-stroke, half-dog paddle” which is how you swim with your hands tied.[citation needed]
    1975 (age 61) – Repeating his performance of 21 years earlier, he again swam the entire length of the Golden Gate Bridge, underwater and handcuffed, but this time he was shackled and towed a 1,000 lb (450 kg; 71 st) boat.[citation needed]
    1976 (age 62) – To commemorate the “Spirit of ’76,” United States Bicentennial, he swam one mile (1.6 km) in Long Beach Harbor. He was handcuffed and shackled, and he towed 13 boats (representing the 13 original colonies) containing 76 people.[38]
    1979 (age 65) – Towed 65 boats in Lake Ashinoko, near Tokyo, Japan. He was handcuffed and shackled, and the boats were filled with 6,500 lb (2,950 kg; 460 st) of Louisiana Pacific wood pulp.[39]
    1980 (age 66) – Towed 10 boats in North Miami, Florida. The boats carried 77 people, and he towed them for over one mile (1.6 km) in less than one hour.[citation needed]
    1984 (age 70) – He towed 70 rowboats, one with several guests, from the Queen’s Way Bridge in the Long Beach Harbor to the Queen Mary, 1 mile.

  31. Marino and Farve both could still sling it at the end….they just threw a LOT of picks

    _______________________________________________

    Marino threw 17 picks his last year which was not his career high and kind of middle of the road for him. His last 3 seasons were 11, 15 and 17 (11 gms) INT’s. The game was much different then however. By todays standards those numbers are completely awful.

    Favres numbers, last 3 seasons were 22, 7, and 19.

  32. upthegut40 says:
    June 27, 2021 at 8:18 pm
    In this society only youth seems to matter so it would be cool to see him play till 50
    ________________

    Phil Mickelson and Helio Castroneves would like a word with you.

  33. directdriver says:
    June 27, 2021 at 6:12 pm
    gibson45 says:
    “It does not take away from Brady’s championship accomplishments to recognize that there are many quarterbacks who actually played or now play the position better than he does”

    The use of the word “many” is really stretching it. As Brady said in The Shop video he admitted it comes down to style of playing the position and I have no qualms about people picking their favorite QBs but to suggest there are “many” quarterbacks better than him is disingenuous. He belongs in the Mount Rushmore of quarterbacks however you rank them. Oh just a reminder, Mt Rushmore has 4 faces.
    ____________

    Here is where Brady ranked in QB rating over the past 10 seasons, starting with 2020: 9th, 22nd, 15th, 2nd, 2nd, 7th, 5th, 16th, 8th, and 3rd. Going back to 2003, Brady has only led the league in QB rating twice.

    So no, saying that many quarterbacks have physically played the position better is not disingenuous. The statement is a fact, backed up by statistics.

  34. Funny to see people write as if Brady’s powerful ability to motivate and lead don’t count when debating greatness in QBs. Oh, that’s a quality for the coach, or a motivational speaker. Huh?

    It’s the third quarter of the Super Bowl and your team is down 28-3. Which QB do you pick to lead his team to victory? The guy with the best physical skills or the guy who has less on the physical side but who can drive his team to overcome seemingly impossible odds? Why do coaches, when assessing players, pay attention to character if leadership skills don’t matter?

  35. I’ve been closely watching the NFL since the 60s. A lot of great, great qbs have come and gone. But keep your eye on Mahomes. He is different and no, I am not a KC fan.

  36. The GOAT, look out this year should be fun to watch! Hard to repeat but dont doubt TB12

  37. remizak says:
    June 28, 2021 at 9:02 am
    Funny to see people write as if Brady’s powerful ability to motivate and lead don’t count when debating greatness in QBs. Oh, that’s a quality for the coach, or a motivational speaker. Huh?
    ___________

    No one said that those attributes don’t count at all. However, if you will notice, the people referencing motivation and leadership did not mention one thing about the actual physical skills of playing the position.

    Brady may or may not be the best motivater or leader, those things are subjective and cannot be quantified. However, there is no real debate that he is not the best ever by any objective, statistical standard.

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