Pre-1982 sack stats still unofficial, but now widely available

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When Michael Strahan recorded his final sack of 2001 for a record-setting 22.5 sacks on the season, it was a controversial moment in NFL history because Brett Favre took a dive to give Strahan the record. But it should have been controversial for another reason: If the NFL had practiced better statistical record keeping, Strahan’s record wouldn’t have been a record at all.

The NFL has only counted sacks as an individual statistic for defensive players since 1982, meaning many of the great pass rushers of NFL history don’t have their achievements in the official record books. But unofficially, those achievements are now being recognized and are widely available to football fans.

Several football researchers have been compiling sack statistics from before 1982, using game books, play-by-play logs and other sources, and the statistical website Pro-Football-Reference.com has now collected them all in one place. Pro Football Reference now estimates it has 99 percent of the sacks from the 1970 AFL-NFL merger through the 1981 season accounted for, as well as about 95 percent of sacks in both the AFL and NFL from 1966 to 1969, and about 80 percent of sacks from 1961 to 1965. (For 1960 and earlier, it’s harder to track sacks reliably.)

This represents a watershed moment for the kinds of football fans and researchers who obsess over statistics and want to know how many sacks Deacon Jones had (173.5), or who led the league in sacks in 1979 (Jack Youngblood). And it turns out that Strahan, when he recorded 22.5 sacks in 2001, fell just short of the record. The actual record was set by Lions rookie Al “Bubba” Baker in 1978, when he recorded 23 sacks.

Baker should be glad that pre-1982 sacks are now easily available. And so should every football fan.

34 responses to “Pre-1982 sack stats still unofficial, but now widely available

  1. It’s a real shame because there were so many incredible players who don’t get the long-term credit. Then again, people don’t remember anything anyway. 95% of today’s players will be completely forgotten in 20 years.

  2. Deacon Jones RIP was an absolute force! I wish I was alive to see him play in his prime.

  3. On the Super Bowl XII CBS broadcast Pat Summerall states that Harvey Martin had 23 sacks in 1977.

  4. Most of the records only have meaning when applied to the time period when they happened.

    Right now, with the NFL rules favoring the offense, there are more passing yards, more rushing yards and more receiving yards than ever before, but it’s not because the players are necessarily better.

    The opposite is true for defensive records. With the current NFL rules favoring the offenses, the defenses are at a disadvantage compared to years ago. Heck, it used to be legal to use horse-collar tackles. Now those don’t count.

    I’m glad that they are compiling the stats. It’s good to know them, but we can’t compare stats from the 1960’s to stats today. The rules were different than.

  5. jodave5 says:
    July 12, 2021 at 5:39 pm
    On the Super Bowl XII CBS broadcast Pat Summerall states that Harvey Martin had 23 sacks in 1977.
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    PFR tallied 20 for Martin in ’77 (regular season – not counting playoffs).

  6. The Deacon & Johnny U.
    Unitas wasn’t very athletic but he was probably the toughest NFL quarterback ever.

  7. I’ve seen the old films of Deacon Jones, but would have loved to see some full games of him reeking havoc on backfields. He racked up 173.5 sacks in 14 seasons of 14 game seasons.

    That’s .9 sacks per game. Had their been a 16 game season he would have had roughly 25.5 more sacks, putting him at 198.5 sacks for his career in 219 career games assuming the longer seasons.

    That puts Deacon at virtually the same number of sacks as Bruce and Reggie, but he did it in fewer games, with Reggie having played 232 games, and Bruce 279.

    Those 3 are truly in a league of their own. Despite the expansion to 17 game season this year, it may take decades before another player approaches the career sack numbers by Bruce, Reggie, and Deacon.

  8. Football isn’t baseball. Stats don’t compare at all between generations and don’t really mean much from year to year in this sport. Nice to see but anyone who compares stats of players from one generation to the next has little understanding of the sport.

  9. Deacon Jones would have been a beast in any era. It’s hard to compare stats from different era’s. But I will say one thing for the guys playing today. The offensive linemen are allowed to hold. The NFL wants a high scoring game with lots of passing yards. Back in Deacon’s day, O_Linemen actually had to block. They couldn’t grab and hang on like they do today. I mean, I’ll rewind a play and the official was starring right at the guy, and then he just turns his head and doesn’t throw the flag, even on the most blatant holds. But I still think Deacon Jones was the best I’ve ever seen. He probably got double-teamed more than anybody.

  10. I counted 6 Vikings in the top 25, almost 1 in 4 of the top 25 sack leaders. Incredible!

  11. Perhaps the Vikings will be the opponent for the annual Packers NFC championship game meltdown/choke job.

  12. It may not be the record, but IMO the greatest sack season in history is Reggie White’s 21 sacks in the 12 game strike shortened 1987 season. He was on pace for 28 over a full 16 game schedule.

  13. BuckyBadger says:
    July 12, 2021 at 7:12 pm
    Football isn’t baseball. Stats don’t compare at all between generations and don’t really mean much from year to year in this sport.

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    Stats don’t compare at all in baseball across different eras. You had the deadball era, steroid era, introduction of the DH…etc

  14. I agree about the holding calls… but it evens out with the 2 extra games. Eller, Jones, Page, Humphrey, Marshall, Bacon, Youngblood. You could add another 10-20 sacks to those guys.
    That puts Marshall close to his old buddy Page, who is in the HOF. It’s way past time for Jim Marshall to get in.

  15. Randy White once claimed he had more than Strahan but I don’t know if it was ever proven. Still the Manster could have done it. Deacon Jones and Harvey Martin come to mind as well

  16. Maybe someday statisticians will get to 1952 and Norm Wild Man Willey will get his due officially as the top single game sacker of all time.

  17. Sacks are such an overrated stat. So a guy gets 20ish sacks in a year. That means a little over once a game….and a game usually has about 70 plays per side.

    That means about once every 60-70 plays a guys sacks a QB…which may or may not have been a result of his own doing vs. the QB falling down, running out of bounds or having no one to throw to.

    And these guys get HUGE contracts for this? Once every 60 plays?

    How about glorifying QB pressures more? Seems to be more relevant.

  18. Stats don’t compare at all in baseball across different eras. You had the deadball era, steroid era, introduction of the DH…etc
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    The dead ball era in baseball was over 100 years ago. The fundamentals of the game have not changed. The height of the mound and construction of the baseball has had minor tweaks over the decades, but everything else has remained unchanged. You don’t see the steroid era players getting into the hall or claiming records, do you? The biggest change (in one league only) is the DH rule for the American League. That was almost 50 years ago – almost as long as the entire modern NFL.

    Stats in baseball, more than any other sport, are consistent throughout the centuries, regardless of the players. Joe DiMaggio would still hit over .300 today and win gold gloves for his fielding. 90 feet to first base is the closest man has come to perfection in sports…

    The fundamentals, rules and equipment of baseball remain mostly unchanged in its 3rd century of existence. You just can’t say that about football.

  19. Harvey Martin had 23 sacks in a 14 game season in 1977…the official leader in my book!

  20. Brandon in Northwest Suburbia says:
    July 12, 2021 at 6:05 pm
    jodave5 says:
    July 12, 2021 at 5:39 pm
    On the Super Bowl XII CBS broadcast Pat Summerall states that Harvey Martin had 23 sacks in 1977.
    ——————————-

    PFR tallied 20 for Martin in ’77 (regular season – not counting playoffs)

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    20 sacks in 14 games..amounts to 22.85 sacks in 16 games.

    Just short of Bubba Bakers 23 in 16 games.

  21. Those stats have to be inaccurate, not a Steeler in the bunch. With Mean Joe Green get 3-4 sacks a game by himself, that’s at least 35-40 sacks a season. Those Steeler’s shut-out half their opponents and held the rest to under 10 points a game. None of them cracked the top 25? Come on, man!

  22. @sponz there is so much wrong with what you said. Yes players from the steroid era are entering the hall of fame, yes they are claiming records. Stats in baseball are not anymore consistent than any other sport from era to era. It’s been shown over the years how mlb tightens or loosens the ball, stadiums change IMMENSELY! in football all fields are the same size, that’s not true when it comes to stadiums. Rules have also been changed, just recently we have the running into the catcher/trying to avoid contact which that play was the trademark of Pete Rose, theres also now players not being able to use adhesives which had been used for years or the fact that before the steroid era there was the era of greenies.

  23. Sunday Swami says:
    July 13, 2021 at 11:07 am
    @sponz there is so much wrong with what you said..
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    I have to disagree with you. McGuire, Sosa, Bonds, Clemmons, just to name a few off the top of my head are NOT in the hall, nor will they ever be. Bonds HR record is NOT in the official record books.

    Football changes the rule from year to year. Open up the offense, increase the scoring, protect the QB. No chop blocking, no back side blocking, DBs can no longer mug WRs all the way down the field until the ball is released as they did in the 70’s. The kickoff was changed, the insides kick off rules changed, no leading with your head, no tackling below the knees, only hit the QB from his thighs to his numbers, don’t land on the QB, I can go on and on…

    You only mention the different size of ball parks, which has remained constant from day 1. You are talking about MINOR tweaks which I already mentioned. The NFL has had wholesale rule changes and equipment changes that makes the game unrecognizable to just a generation ago. You speak of adhesives which is this year, I can talk about stick ’em or the gloves WRs use today to catch balls with 2 fingers.

    You are comparing a mountain to a mole hill. My point is that the NFL has changed a great deal, so much so that the game is literally different than it was just 20 years ago. This affects the stats to an enormous degree. Baseball is identical to what it has been since its inception, except for again, minor tweaks that have little to no impact on the overall game. You simply cannot say the same for he NFL.

  24. Favre immediately volunteered to fall down twice more so that Strahan could have the record again.

  25. In addition to the other players mentioned here, Joe Klecko also deserves more recognition for the amount of damage he did to opposing offenses when he played. I believe in 1981 he had like 20.5 sacks playing defensive tackle (but it was not an official stat then). It’s a shame he’s not in the HOF.

  26. They have the numbers so they should be official. If they’ve been verified, then why not? It’s not about comparing eras, it’s about numbers being numbers.

  27. Sunday Swami says:
    July 13, 2021 at 11:07 am
    @sponz there is so much wrong with what you said..
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    I have to disagree with you. McGuire, Sosa, Bonds, Clemmons, just to name a few off the top of my head are NOT in the hall, nor will they ever be. Bonds HR record is NOT in the official record books.

    Football changes the rule from year to year. Open up the offense, increase the scoring, protect the QB. No chop blocking, no back side blocking, DBs can no longer mug WRs all the way down the field until the ball is released as they did in the 70’s. The kickoff was changed, the insides kick off rules changed, no leading with your head, no tackling below the knees, only hit the QB from his thighs to his numbers, don’t land on the QB, I can go on and on…

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    You missed the ONE thing that players used to do (see Deacon Jones) that they cannot do anymore to get sacks… and that was smack the ear hole of the Olinemen that were blocking them (AKA the head slap).

  28. Good. Officially recognize Baker’s legitimate season sack record and air out the stench of Strahan’s bogus record from the book forever. While they’re at it, retroactively fine Favre for taking a dive.

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