Austin City Council members not aware of possible Bills move

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If Austin is a potential destination for the Buffalo Bills, that’s news to the powers that be in Austin.

Ryan Autullo of the Austin American-Statesman has spoken with multiple members of the Austin City Council. And they said that Sunday’s report from Seth Wickersham of ESPN as a potential destination for the Bills is the first they’ve heard of it.

This would mean that the potential move of the Bills to Austin is, at least for now, a leverage play to get public funding in Buffalo.

That doesn’t mean it can’t become something more than that. But, obviously, if team owners Terry and Kim Pegula want to get the attention the politicians in Erie County and New York, they need to have a Plan B. The fact that the Plan B is not yet viable doesn’t matter.

It’s no surprise. In any negotiation, leverage is needed. If the Bills have no alternative to Buffalo, they have no real leverage.

For now, then, it appears to be part of the effort to maximize public money for a new stadium in Buffalo. The Pegulas reportedly have proposed that the venue will be fully funded by taxpayer money. That surely isn’t happening; to get (for example) 50 percent of the project paid by public money, they need to start higher than that. Asking for 100 percent is, obviously, as high as it can get.

The broader reality is that the cat is now out of the bag. So whether it’s Austin or somewhere else, any other city that covets an NFL franchise now knows that the Bills could be in play. Those cities have to ask themselves whether they’re willing to be a pawn in a game they can’t win, or whether they can indeed put together a package that can get the attention of the Pegulas.

Where it goes from here remains to be seen. However, the time has come for folks in Western New York to ponder the possibility of an “or else” destination emerging. And if another city will do that which Buffalo, Erie County, and/or New York won’t do, some difficult decisions may need to be made.

It’s unfortunate, but it’s a basic reality of the NFL business. The relocations of the Rams, Chargers, and Raiders prove that owners will go where the money is, or where a privately-funded stadium will be more likely to turn a consistent profit. And if the money isn’t in Buffalo, the possibility that the money will be somewhere else becomes extremely relevant. Thus, what could begin as a bluff could become something more than that.

Is that the way it should be? No. But that’s the way it is. Until the Pegulas get an acceptable plan in place for a new stadium in Buffalo, the possibility that another team may find a way to bogart the Bills will be on the table. Time will tell whether it’s Austin or somewhere else. To get the best deal in Buffalo, somewhere other than Buffalo needs to become a viable alternative. Until a new deal is done in Buffalo, there’s a chance that somewhere other than Buffalo can become the new home for a team would ideally never move.

Here’s hoping it doesn’t happen. But it has happened to St. Louis, to San Diego, to Oakland, to Cleveland, and to Baltimore. It could indeed happen to Buffalo. It shouldn’t, but it could. The longer it takes for the public funding to be secured in Buffalo, the greater the chance that another American city will decide that its ticket to legitimacy comes from luring an NFL team to town.

54 responses to “Austin City Council members not aware of possible Bills move

  1. Two rules for any city council membership are (1) successful because of family money earned before your time (2) …. oh wait that’s the only one.

  2. Spoils to the victor. Some city will to step up and provide for the franchise while demonstrating some civic pride. Buffalo needs to step up or lose the only thing that makes them known on a national level.

  3. The whole allure of the Pegulas buying the Bills was that they’re determined to keep them in Buffalo. I don’t buy for a second that the Bills are moving. The NFL would be losing one of its most rabid, loyal fan bases

  4. I’m sorry, but billionaires should be paying for their own fun parks. They recoup through endless revenue and hard-earned fan money, all season. It pays for itself, so they should cover the cost. Bottom line. Can’t afford it? Don’t buy it or get a loan.

  5. Austin Bills has a nice ring to it if the city of buffalo doesnt care enough to keep them around.

  6. Predictable negotiation gambit. Terrible PR and particularly bad timing as the Bills try to keep/attract all star talent for a championship run. Relocation threats are a completely unnecessary distraction right now.

  7. With how incredibly devastating the economic lockdowns have been on WNY, this is pretty tone deaf even if it is just a Billionaire negotiating with a struggling city/county government.

    The Pegula’s have run the Sabres into the dirt since Terry gave Kim the keys to that franchise to run as her hobby.

    I’m pretty over that family. Let’s not forget had Sean McDermott fallen into their lap and brought along BBB we might be on our 2nd or even 3rd coach since Rex Ryan.

  8. Move the Bills to Toronto instead. NFL has been wanting to expand and this is the way to do it. Start with Canada. Make the league international. Europe is just too far.

  9. Damn shame that money is the driving force behind what used to be a great sport to be a team fan of. Signed- a disenchanted Cowboys fan

  10. Why is the possibility of a move not the way it should be? Why do we have to hope a move does not happen? People are fond of saying that playing in the NFL is a privilege. Why is it any less of a privilege for a city to have a NFL team?

    St. Louis, San Diego, and Oakland all had multiple opportunities to keep those teams. Those cities failed to put together a package to keep the teams. Franchises have moved cities since professional sports began. Such moves are not immoral, illegal, or even unfortunate.

  11. St. Louis and San Diego went to a stadium that was entirely privately financed.
    Oakland went to a stadium which was only 25% financed.

    Cleveland and Baltimore were more than a quarter century ago in a totally different world than we live in today. They do not belong in this conversation.

    The fact of the matter is, in recent years, no city has been so desperate for an NFL team that they’ve agreed to give billionaires billions of dollars which they absolutely do not recoup (as studies have shown) in tax revenue. Many of those past cities end up in financial distress because the best case scenario always put forth in these tax plans never pays off.

    St Louis and San Diego went to LA, a city that does not care about the NFL. Las Vegas cared but still couldn’t be convinced to cover more than 25% and this is a town that lives and dies on gambling.

    Without 2 bidders you can’t have a bidding war and it’s hard these days when most cities are already running in the deficit due to covid to convince them to bankrupt the municipality to give billlionaires more money.

  12. It’s probably just a threat, but it will likely work… The only team in the league likely to move at any point is the Jaguars, once their stadium contract is done. The Bills aren’t going anywhere, but the league will threaten Austin and that will scare the Buffalo residents enough to vote for whatever is needed to keep their team…

    Also, great timing in asking for a new stadium… Maybe you wait until there is a little more distance between us and the Global Pandemic… Just a thought…

  13. They literally bought the team to keep them from moving. They are not moving. Every team that postures for a new stadium does this.

  14. Pegula’s really are a public relations disaster. It is a negotiation, but you don’t start them with threatening the nuclear option of moving. It’s going to be tough for them to move too, they are WNY residents, plus they own the Sabres. Do you really think they will get any support locally for them if they move the Bills? Plus, I don’t know how firm contractually it is, but part of their contract for buying the Sabres was a clause they cannot move or sell them to an out of town entity!

  15. I am all in favor of NOT giving billionaires, who pay zero or way less than their fair share of taxes, any money for their stadium. If every city took a stand then this would all end. It’s your team. You’re a billionaire. Build your own darn stadium.

  16. Pegula got his bluff called out publically. The Bills are’t going anywhere. We go through this every few years. The Toronto experiment already failed. No one wants to eat sushi during a football game.

  17. billsfan716 says:
    August 2, 2021 at 8:39 am
    They literally bought the team to keep them from moving. They are not moving. Every team that postures for a new stadium does this.

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    Buffalo is not paying the Pegulas.

    You were warned.

  18. It’s unfortunate, but it’s a basic reality of the NFL business. The relocations of the Rams, Chargers, and Raiders prove that owners will go where the money is, or where a privately-funded stadium will be more likely to turn a consistent profit.
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    True, it’s a reality of the NFL, but should it be? Should owners be allowed to toy with their fans’ loyalties just to earn a buck? It’s a business, but should that be the first concern? How does that help “the integrity of the shield”? Teams should serve the league, it shouldn’t be about owners milking cities and fans to maximize profit. It’s sinister and greedy, and it also sends a message that the lifeblood of the NFL – FANS – are expendable. The NFL can never seriously talk about “loyalty” if they treat fans this way.

    Also, Austin is such a poor landing spot to use for leverage. How many Cowboys/Texans fans would switch over? And if we’re looking at this honestly, the Rams’ move to St. Louis replaced a team they’d lost (and this pattern is absurd – city loses NFL team only to replace them at some point, which proves it really is just owners getting a payday), and it seems they really only rented them for 20 years. Again – why should fans care if this is how they’re treated?

    Has the Chargers move to LA panned out in any way? The Spanos family spent decades alienating fans and the city, now they’re the unwanted renters in someone else’s dream stadium and LA fans couldn’t care less – but the fans of visiting teams are happy.

    Congratulations Chargers, you’re the Washington Generals of the NFL.

    The Chargers are a team begging for good ownership and a home that wants them. That’s what the NFL should be working towards, not allowing teams with strong fanbases to extort their cities for profit.

  19. Giving the world the Beijing Bills will be Goodell’s finishing touch on his legacy as the worst commissioner in any sport in history.

  20. hellooooooooooobrooklyn says:
    August 1, 2021 at 11:58 pm
    The whole allure of the Pegulas buying the Bills was that they’re determined to keep them in Buffalo. I don’t buy for a second that the Bills are moving. The NFL would be losing one of its most rabid, loyal fan bases
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    How many times does a team need to move for people to realize the owners only care about money? Oh, you think a “loyal fan base” keeps a team? Ha ha ha. I bet you also think the players on the Bills team right now just love Buffalo and wouldn’t possibly play for another team! Money money money. Oh, and btw, I’m not even trying to insult the owners or players. It’s just simple economics. I guarantee you most of those loyal Bills fans living in Buffalo would leave in a hurry for a huge raise somewhere else.

  21. Highly unlikely a move to Austin would get approved. The Cowboys and Texans don’t want another team in Texas and Austin is less than a 3-hour drive from both Dallas and Houston. Also fair to question if Austin is where you’d want a team even if there were no objections to more teams in Texas. San Antonio’s metro region is considerably larger than Austin’s and they already have an NBA team so they’d seemingly be the obvious destination.

  22. weepingjebus says:
    August 2, 2021 at 9:46 am
    Giving the world the Beijing Bills will be Goodell’s finishing touch on his legacy as the worst commissioner in any sport in history.
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    Goodell follows the marching orders of the owners, without fail or question, and has made the NFL billions upon billions of dollars. And he has convinced the fans to blame him instead of the 32 owners that are running the show. From the perspective of the people that pay him to do his job, he has been one of the best commissioners in sports history.

  23. rich people holding cities hostage for money to build their palaces of excess deserve jail

  24. The last thing the Austin City Council wants to see is an NFL franchise coming to town. Just imagine the change in their job responsibilities from relatively sleepy-time to ever ongoing multimillion dollars decisions on everything from a stadium to infrastructure, security, traffic, and whatever else.

  25. I live in Austin. Believe me, the city council is unaware of a lot of things, this is just another…

  26. 2 reasons this won’t happen.
    1. This is nothing but an empty threat to stimulate negotiation.
    2. Outside of the area around Houston Jerry Jones and the Cowboys own NFL Football in Texas.
    That was true long before Jerry owned the Cowboys and the Oilers were Houstons NFL team.

  27. Sports fans are the biggest suckers alive, especially NFL fans. They always cheer when their team signs a nine-figure free agent and then are shocked when ticket prices, cable bills, parking, and concessions skyrocket. When teams came up with personal seat licenses I laughed when fans bought into it. I love when conservative politicians who decry “socialism” pay for new stadiums but not schools. Numerous economic studied show that publicly funded sports venues never provide a positive return on investment.

  28. weepingjebus says:
    August 2, 2021 at 9:46 am
    Giving the world the Beijing Bills will be Goodell’s finishing touch on his legacy as the worst commissioner in any sport in history.

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    And then Jax to London. Some of us have had it all along.

  29. You would have thought the Pergolas would have at least gone to Austin to pretend they were interested. What a joke. They played their hand and it was a weak sister attempt to extract tax payer money.
    Texas from a tax standpoint makes sense but this is Dallas back yard and that wont fly.
    The Bills are going nowhere and everyone knows it.

  30. I hear St Louis needs a team. and you can bet the NFL will force whomever to move their first before they can go anywhere.

  31. The NFL is protected by congress from anti-trust laws while other businesses stay in compliance. The NFL’s profit sharing and labor cost controls make it virtually impossible for even the worst teams to lose money operationally, never mind the constant increases in franchise valuations. The Bills are valued $2.15B, 30th of 32 franchises. The Cowboys have the highest valuation at $5.7B. The Patriots are a distant second at $4.4B.

    Despite these riches, the NFL continually “extorts” (my word, they would say “negotiates”) financial support from state and local governments for infrastructure but the Bills want Buffalo to pony up the full cost of a new stadium.

    Fans that in some dream world see themselves on par with the billionaire owners constantly rag on players for making too much money, and talk of “owners” as if they have some divine right to dictate terms to player and municipalities.

    Here is an example of ownership so arrogant that they don’t even see the need to create a competitive bid for their team, they just made it up.

    Federal and state tax laws that allow families to retain ownership and pass franchises to the next generation without paying tax on the capital gain strengthen the negotiating position of the owners. If moving a franchise created a taxable transfer at the federal and state level this nonsense would stop. Taxing franchise moves seems like a reasonable exchange for the anti-trust exemption these owners enjoy.

  32. For perspective, the entire Buffalo/Niagara Falls region is only 1,125,000 (49th in the US). And one of the very few cities that’s actually been declining in population.

    Think about that. 31 NFL teams are sharing their revenue and SUBSIDIZING Buffalo just to keep them there for now. Only a matter of time before those owners say enough and for the Bills to pull their weight in generating stronger revenue by moving.

  33. gibson45 says:
    August 2, 2021 at 7:30 am
    St. Louis, San Diego, and Oakland all had multiple opportunities to keep those teams. Those cities failed to put together a package to keep the teams. Franchises have moved cities since professional sports began. Such moves are not immoral, illegal, or even unfortunate.
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    To be fair, St. Louis and San Diego both offered stadium deals to their teams. In San Diego, Spanos turned down the Mission Valley plan and demanded a downtown stadium or nothing. In St. Louis, Stan Kroenke saw a small market and decided he could make more money in Los Angeles.

    The only city of the three that did NOTHING for their team was Oakland, and oddly enough, the Raiders were the lone team that didn’t win the LA sweepstakes, being relegated to Las Vegas.

  34. tigerlilac says:
    August 2, 2021 at 11:13 am
    The NFL is protected by congress from anti-trust laws while other businesses stay in compliance. The NFL’s profit sharing and labor cost controls make it virtually impossible for even the worst teams to lose money operationally, never mind the constant increases in franchise valuations. The Bills are valued $2.15B, 30th of 32 franchises. The Cowboys have the highest valuation at $5.7B. The Patriots are a distant second at $4.4B.
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    The NFL is not exempt from Anti Trust laws. Only MLB is exempt from those laws.

  35. The Pegulas could foot the entire bill themselves and still have $4 billion of net worth left over. Which would, of course, grow quickly due to the ever-increasing revenue from their teams.

    There’s no excuse for it. It’s just disgusting greed.

  36. Correct me if I’m wrong, but if the bills were to move, wouldn’t Pegula have to sell the sabres?! Jeremy jacobs, the owner of my bruins, looked at buying his hometown Bills, but I thought I read something saying he couldn’t, because you couldn’t own professional franchises in different cities?

  37. Austin is doing just fine. They already have great entertainment and lots to do. They don’t need to bend over to a billionaire NFL owner that wants somebody else to pay for their toys.

  38. There is no way under God’s Green Earth that the people here in Austin Texas are financing an out of state football team for $1.5 billion.

    Now…what’s next?

  39. “Correct me if I’m wrong, but if the bills were to move, wouldn’t Pegula have to sell the sabres?!”
    _________

    That used to be the rule but in 2018 the NFL changed it so now owners can have teams in other markets. But, that being said, imagine the Pegulas moving the Bills and then trying to negotiate anything for the Sabres. They’d be the most hated people in town and would probably have to either sell the Sabres or also move them.

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