Hospital in Kirk Cousins’ hometown ends relationship with him over anti-vaccine stance

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Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins refuses to get vaccinated for COVID-19. As a result, the hospital in Cousins’ hometown no longer wishes to be associated with him.

Cousins had served as a spokesman for Holland Hospital in Holland, Michigan, the town where Cousins was a star athlete at Holland Christian High School. The hospital announced today that it will cut ties with him.

“While we acknowledge that each person is entitled to their own viewpoints, those who speak on our behalf must support messages that align with the hospital’s position on matters of vital importance to individual and community health,” the hospital said in a statement, via WHTC. “For this reason, Holland Hospital will discontinue using Kirk Cousins as our spokesperson for now. We are proud of our association with Kirk. He embodies many values we respect and share as part of our work culture.

“However, we must be certain that our communications about COVID vaccination are consistent and unequivocal.

“The clear recommendation from the CDC and leading medical experts is that the COVID vaccine is safe, effective and the best defense against becoming infected with the virus. Evidence also indicates that vaccinated individuals may be less likely to carry and transmit the virus to others including children, family members and friends.

“For these reasons, Holland Hospital has and will continue to strongly recommend the COVID vaccine to those who are eligible to receive it. It is important that Holland Hospital maintain the trusted reputation we have earned for providing consistent, truthful information and evidence-based health care guidance.”

Cousins obviously can’t represent a health care provider at a time when he’s actively refusing to do the single most important thing everyone must do for the health of their community. Holland Hospital made the only decision it could make.

138 responses to “Hospital in Kirk Cousins’ hometown ends relationship with him over anti-vaccine stance

  1. Vaccinated people are getting and spreading it just as much as unvaccinated so why is this required? Makes absolutely no sense at all.

  2. What a petty move by the hospital. Head a decision he thought was best for his health. Now the thought police are after him. What a joke

  3. What a petty move by the hospital. He made a decision he thought was best for his health. Now the thought police are after him. What a joke

  4. In his own words…”I’ll do whatever it takes.” Then take the vaccine Kirk the Jerk!

  5. Extremism over a non FDA approved vaccine for a virus with a 99% survival rate. A virus not a disease.

  6. Skol Laugh at captain sky lord – Well played Holland Hospital, well played.

  7. When one decides to follow Jesus, this is what happen. Jesus already said they will hate you because they already hated me first. Who cares if people, your relatives or family hates you, as long as God loves you, that’s all that matters.

  8. Cousins shouldn’t represent anything remotely related to personal healthcare. Maybe My Pillow is looking for a spokesperson?

  9. Bad decision to have him as a spokesperson. It’s a hospital. A doctor should be spokesperson. Get people trained to listen to professionals. Kirk should be a spokesperson for Hemet, jock strap company.

  10. I find this kind of ironic. None of us (except locals) had ever heard of Holland Hospital before when Kirk was their spokesperson. Now that the hospital speaks out against their former spokesperson, we all now know of this hospital.

  11. The fact that vaccinated people continue to get infected and continue to transmit the virus is evidence that the vaccine isn’t safe or effective.

  12. Ppl that say vaccinated ppl are catching and spreading the virus the same as unvaccinated need to do their research off of Factbook and other social media outlets. 99% of ppl in the hospitals do to covid are unvaccinated. Funny all these ppl don’t want it end up crying for it while they on ventilators wishing they had taken it

  13. We’re all in this (pandemic) together, Kirk. Think of your fellow citizens as a team, people you are in league with. In other words, get the shot, like the ones you got when you were going into first grade.

  14. The CDC just said today those unvaccinated individuals who get COVID 19 are at 2times the risk to get it again!
    The ONLY COVID 19 patients hospitalized and dying are those UNVACCINATED!

  15. If Cousins intends to run for political office one day, probably best to spin this into funding psychiatric care for anyone who’s getting stressed out right now.

  16. Google the hospital and let them know what you think on a review! What a load of garbage. He is a class act in the nfl and they aren’t using him anymore because of his stance on a personal decision. Sickening.

  17. If this was a shoe deal or any other form of a sponsor i would take exception but its a HOSPITAL for crying out loud. No way can they be associated with a anti vaccine stance. 100% agree with them ending their association with Cousins.

  18. I suspect the problem is the doctors at Holland Hospital is have real degrees from actual medical schools, as well as real licenses to practice medicine. They’re not hucksters selling pillows, seditious politicians or Fox News flunkies.

  19. The people that have been vaccinated with the GMO are the one’s shedding causing other’s to become infected with the fake virus.

  20. golions1988 says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:19 pm

    Google the hospital and let them know what you think on a review! What a load of garbage. He is a class act in the nfl and they aren’t using him anymore because of his stance on a personal decision. Sickening.

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    Garbage? It’s a hospital. Hospitals don’t treat public health and viral science as matters of opinion. Their function in society is serious, professional health care and health guidance, which Cousins is now directly undermining.

  21. michaelnewsomejr says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:13 pm
    The fact that vaccinated people continue to get infected and continue to transmit the virus is evidence that the vaccine isn’t safe or effective.
    _____________
    How many vaccinated people are being hospitalized or dying?

  22. Hey, those stressing Cousin’s freedom to do what he wants with his body should similarly be celebrating a private businesses’ freedom to associate with whomever it wants. For some reason that just doesn’t seem to be the case here does it?

  23. Listen to these ignorant commenters telling others to actually harass front-line hospital workers who are working tirelessly to save the lives of these fools who don’t believe in the virus. This is exactly what 45 wanted. He wanted us pulled apart and he accomplished it through the help of Russians on Facebook.

  24. bbshouldretireandcoachlaxwithpetro says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:23 pm
    I suspect the problem is the doctors at Holland Hospital is have real degrees from actual medical schools, as well as real licenses to practice medicine. They’re not hucksters selling pillows, seditious politicians or Fox News flunkies.
    __________________________________________

    100% agree. The my pillow guy needs to be sending all these nonvaccinated ppl who end up in the hospital free pillows for lying to them and possibly leading to their prevented deaths

  25. Don’t these players understand how these things might affect my Fantasy team?!?

  26. How about we quit calling this virtue signaling, leave red and blue politics and ideology out of it, drop the “don’t tread on me” stuff, stop with the Facebook Science and just call it what it is:

    Grownups afraid of needles.

  27. If we had today’s mindset last century smallpox and polio would still be around.

  28. Good. All selfish and dumb people should not benefit from the rewards of out society.

  29. Hows that freedom working out for you Sparty? You like that? You are free to be stupid, just as the Hospital is free to say yeah, youre an idiot, we dont support your ignorant takes

  30. Makes sense. No reputable doctor or hospital would align with someone who doesn’t accept basic science and threatens public health.

  31. Just imagine if Trump wore a mask from the beginning, and shut his mouth long enough to let us hear the experts. This would have been over a year ago. To all of you idiots, Trump along with his rich friends and colleagues have been vaccinated! Why are leading you to believe otherwise?

  32. Why would a hospital want to associate with someone who clearly doesn’t trust doctors? Geez people cry harder

  33. Sucks to be a vaccinated variant creating super-spreader. Those pesky spiked proteins.

  34. buttfumbles says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:41 pm
    If we had today’s mindset last century smallpox and polio would still be around

    _________

    If we had the today’s mindset last century, obese people wouldn’t be relying on a vaccine for the flu, just to survive.

  35. Just wondering if the people who support the hospital’s decision would support that same hospital if a politician, athlete, or actor was pro choice on abortion and the hospital cut ties with them? Remember the doctor’s creed; first, do no harm. Of course you wouldn’t, because you are hypocrites

  36. For those people, who says the vaccine aren’t effective or what not because vaccinated people are spreading it too. The vaccines are preventing them from hospitalizations or dying, get educated folks !

  37. Hospitals need celebrity spokemen? Especially in a town of 30,000 people where there is only one hospital?

  38. golions1988
    Aug 6, 2021, 2:19 PM PDT
    Google the hospital and let them know what you think on a review! What a load of garbage. He is a class act in the nfl and they aren’t using him anymore because of his stance on a personal decision. Sickening.

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    I doubt anyone willing to follow your advice on hospital trolling needs to be told.

  39. Cant wait for the FDA to approve the vaccine, and the dumb dumbs come up with a new excuse. You all are cowards. As Mike Tyson once said, You are a scared coward!

  40. partmachine says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:51 pm
    Just imagine if Trump wore a mask from the beginning, and shut his mouth long enough to let us hear the experts. This would have been over a year ago. To all of you idiots, Trump along with his rich friends and colleagues have been vaccinated! Why are leading you to believe otherwise?

    ——————————–

    If he actually listened to anyone about COVID he’d still be president of the United States. Unfortunately for him, narcissism proved to cause more damage to him than COVID.

  41. If you cant handle a mildly sore shoulder for a day, how are you going to handle tubes shoved down your throats?

  42. Masks don’t work, vaccinations don’t work, lockdowns don’t work, media and professionals lie and don’t tell the truth that’s always seemed to know for sure besides the fact that this is an untested vaccine where the pharmaceutical companies have absolutely no liability whatsoever if people start dying. Yeah go right ahead you get that vaccine you’re a genius

  43. Its so hilarious when the keyboard anti vaxx warriors spread all their misinfornmation, then they get called out on their ignorance by reporters, then all of the sudden they run like coward with nothing to say, like that Idiot Lauren Boebert clown

  44. We have some of the best doctors in the country here in Minnesota between the Mayo and U of M and he couldn’t be bothered to talk to even just on of them? What research is he looking at.

  45. Vaccinated people are not the ones being hospitalized and dying. It’s funny how these football players can risk significant head injuries but don’t understand this concept?

  46. colainsa says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:07 pm

    How about the hospital just heal people instead of virtue signaling….

    ——

    How about the hospital having freedom of choice also and decide who they want to represent them. Freedom of choice is not just for the un-vaccinated!

  47. The COVID hysteria has been a huge financial boon for the healthcare profession and pharmaceutical corporations, anybody that gets in the way of it must be deplatformed and shunned.

  48. httr3621 says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:13 pm

    Ppl that say vaccinated ppl are catching and spreading the virus the same as unvaccinated need to do their research off of Facebook and other social media outlets. 99% of ppl in the hospitals due to covid are unvaccinated. Funny all these ppl don’t want it end up crying for it while they on ventilators wishing they had taken it

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    What he said ^^^

  49. Masks absolutely work. Vaccines work. Lock downs work. The problem is the people who are easily duped into ignoring and fighting against these things. If the remedies were implemented by nearly everyone, the virus would soon wither away for lack of hosts.

  50. @ theitalianarmy says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:08 pm
    Extremism over a non FDA approved vaccine for a virus with a 99% survival rate. A virus not a disease

    A virus that has been killing people of all ages since 2019. At the moment, US children and adolescents are at the most risk.

  51. aristotle says:
    August 6, 2021 at 6:24 pm
    The COVID hysteria has been a huge financial boon for the healthcare profession and pharmaceutical corporations, anybody that gets in the way of it must be deplatformed and shunned.

    —————————

    Exactly right. And the pharmaceutical companies contribute heavily to leftist political campaigns.

    So the real question is – who benefits most from Covid fear mongering?

  52. billzbubb says:
    August 6, 2021 at 6:26 pm
    Masks absolutely work. Vaccines work. Lock downs work. The problem is the people who are easily duped into ignoring and fighting against these things. If the remedies were implemented by nearly everyone, the virus would soon wither away for lack of hosts.

    It says right on the box that the mask come in that they don’t protect against covid

  53. >Wow all the weirdos supporting the anti vax position is mind blowing

    A lot of it are bots and troll farms, plus a few idiots who fall for them.

  54. The NFL should make it a rule. Vaccine or stay home without pay! Cousins is not smart enough to know better!!

  55. michaelnewsomejr says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:13 pm
    The fact that vaccinated people continue to get infected and continue to transmit the virus is evidence that the vaccine isn’t safe or effective.

    Are you really serious? The vaccine isn’t safe or effective……… Please tell me this is satire. Yes, vaccinated individuals are getting infected (at a lower rate than unvaccinated) and continue to transmit the virus is a fact and I cannot argue that. However, you stating that this means it isn’t safe or effective shows you have not realized that the majority (over 99%) of people dying right now are not vaccinated. Isn’t that proof enough that the vaccine works?

  56. michaelnewsomejr says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:13 pm
    The fact that vaccinated people continue to get infected and continue to transmit the virus is evidence that the vaccine isn’t safe or effective.

    I got another one. The FACT that people are dying in car accidents is evidence that seat belts don’t work…. Do you know how stupid your statement sounds.

  57. Its ok to allow thousands of illegals cross daily without masks, unvaccinated, cramming huge numbers of illegals together and bus them or take them to any town anywhere but if Kirk doesn’t want a shot let’s all Villianize him. Country has bigger problems in case you hasn’t noticed.

  58. It’s become clear that if you want to keep your job you will need to get vaccinated. The superspreaders will conform to the norms of society one way or the other. It’s about time the hammer got dropped on them.

  59. partmachine says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:51 pm
    Just imagine if Trump wore a mask from the beginning, and shut his mouth long enough to let us hear the experts. This would have been over a year ago. To all of you idiots, Trump along with his rich friends and colleagues have been vaccinated! Why are leading you to believe otherwise?

    Just imagine if we had listened to fauci. Oh wait we did. The same guy that told us not to wear masks only because there weren’t enough masks for healthcare professionals. Then told us to wear masks. Now we’re being told mask up again even if you’re vaccinated. The experts don’t even know…..

  60. Cousins refuses to get vaccinated for Covid-19 because he doesn’t believe the science behind the vaccine. My question is, will he believe the science behind the treatment of Covid-19 if he gets Covid-19?

  61. Yes, vaccinated people can still get the virus and spread it. But, it’s still the most effective way in decreasing the spread of and death from it. Why is the argument that since it’s not 100%, don’t take it? People are dying too rapidly for it to be comparable to the flu. It was killing people at a pandemic rate. If it’s death rate was not so great, yes, not taking it could make sense. But it’s effectiveness in killing people at a PANDEMIC rate is too risky to not take it. Also, not taking the vaccines increases the chance of spread MORE than the potential spread that comes from vaccinated people.

  62. It’s brilliant to get the virus into America. People would rather die out of spite and “principle” than take the vaccine. This virus will endure here long after all of us are gone due to that mindset.

  63. >>>Wow all the weirdos supporting the anti vax position is mind blowing.<<<

    100% agree. But is it intent or ignorance that fuels their fact less comments?

    Here's an idea: If you're an anti-vaxxer and you exercised your right not to take the free preventative measure vaccine and you end up being hospitalized with COVID, how about you pay for your own medical bills? We're going to get to the point again where the hospitals will be so full of unvaccinated deniers dying of the virus that other medical services for the people that choose to protect themselves, their families and friends will be impacted. #selfish

  64. michaelnewsomejr says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:13 pm
    The fact that vaccinated people continue to get infected and continue to transmit the virus is evidence that the vaccine isn’t safe or effective.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    And the fact that unvaccinated people continue to get infected and transmit the virus at rates thousands of times HIGHER rates than vaccinated people is evidence that not getting vaccinated is even less safe and totally ineffective

  65. merde4brains says:
    August 6, 2021 at 7:16 pm
    Cousins refuses to get vaccinated for Covid-19 because he doesn’t believe the science behind the vaccine. My question is, will he believe the science behind the treatment of Covid-19 if he gets Covid-19?
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    I don’t think that’s it. I think God told him not to.

    Yeah. Really.

  66. You think he give a crap after making $160 the last four years? His own decision.

  67. codylaws says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:09 pm
    When one decides to follow Jesus, this is what happen. Jesus already said they will hate you because they already hated me first. Who cares if people, your relatives or family hates you, as long as God loves you, that’s all that matters.

    119 367 Rate This
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    People that get covid, go to hospital, ask before being intubated for the vaccine. They don’t seek Jesus then. Think. Religion can give structure but not reasoning unfortunately!

  68. I feel sorry for everyone who has let COVID rule their life and their feelings on everything.

  69. I know exactly one person who got Covid. He was barely sick and didn’t spread it to anyone else.
    The fear mongering from the politicians and media however is far more harmful to the public.
    Twice as many people died from heart disease last year compared to Covid.
    Get some perspective people.

  70. Notice how the anti-vaxers are always first to post on any vaccine article? Why do y’all feel the need to defend your choice so aggressively? Insecure about it maybe?

  71. mitchdigger72 says:
    August 6, 2021 at 8:03 pm

    I know exactly one person who got Covid. He was barely sick and didn’t spread it to anyone else.
    The fear mongering from the politicians and media however is far more harmful to the public.
    Twice as many people died from heart disease last year compared to Covid.
    Get some perspective people.

    =============

    Okay, some perspective:

    1) The number of people you know who got COVID is utterly irrelevant. It’s led to the deaths of 655,000 Americans, and millions more have been sickened by it. Millions of Americans know someone who’s gotten it.

    2) How so? I don’t think you have any support whatsoever for this statement. It’s a lazy retread from right-wing media.

    3) Heart disease isn’t CONTAGIOUS.

    Good grief.

  72. thurmanmerman99 says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:00 pm
    Vaccinated people are getting and spreading it just as much as unvaccinated so why is this required? Makes absolutely no sense at all.

    ——-

    It’s called virtue signaling

  73. People that get covid, go to hospital, ask before being intubated for the vaccine. They don’t seek Jesus then. Think. Religion can give structure but not reasoning unfortunately!

    Unfortunately, you weren’t given the knowledge, wisdom and understanding of God. His words are sharper than any double edged sword. Hebrews 4:12.

  74. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:16 pm
    The CDC just said today those unvaccinated individuals who get COVID 19 are at 2times the risk to get it again!
    The ONLY COVID 19 patients hospitalized and dying are those UNVACCINATED!
    —————————————————————————-
    Really? 40 miles north of me, A woman who was vaccinated died yesterday. Love all the “experts” both for and against the vaccine here… lol

  75. Amazing all the statistics……America may not last because of what we are choosing to believe

  76. 1218mah
    Aug 6, 2021, 4:08 PM PDT
    Its ok to allow thousands of illegals cross daily without masks, unvaccinated, cramming huge numbers of illegals together and bus them or take them to any town anywhere but if Kirk doesn’t want a shot let’s all Villianize him. Country has bigger problems in case you hasn’t noticed.

    ————————————————-

    See if you can wrap your head around this. I’m not American. I don’t live in the US. So your immigration problem has absolutely nothing to do with me, thus your argument falls flat. Yet your decision about whether or not you want the vaccine could potentially impact me.
    American immigration.
    Global pandemic.
    Two entirely separate issues.

  77. Wow truly amazed at what people believe…..guess that is why we are where we are.

  78. jacksonrr3 says:
    August 6, 2021 at 6:19 pm
    We have some of the best doctors in the country here in Minnesota between the Mayo and U of M and he couldn’t be bothered to talk to even just on of them? What research is he looking at.

    ——————

    Personal conversations are much different with doctors than the public conversations.

    Politicizing a virus like this has made everyone afraid to counter the mass media’s portrayal of what’s happening.

  79. People clearly aren’t understanding that this is a business decision. Why would you have somebody as your spokesperson if their views don’t align with yours?

    That’s like a spokesperson for (insert company name) telling the media that (company’s product) is trash.
    That may be their opinion, but (company) isn’t going to keep you around as their spokesperson.

  80. Twice as many people died from heart disease last year compared to Covid.
    Get some perspective people.
    —–
    And if they developed a vaccine for heart disease you wouldn’t take it either I bet.

    Someone actually said they only knew one person who got covid and he was fine so this is all bs? Fantastic rationale there. How about this: my aunt died from it, my wife’s grandmother died yesterday from it, and I can count at least 10 other people who died from it in my little circle over the last year. But maybe I’m just politicizing it…

  81. Politicizing a virus like this has made everyone afraid to counter the mass media’s portrayal of what’s happening.
    —–
    People are dying….that’s what’s happening. It’s not a portrayal, it’s the news you damn fools.

  82. It’s sickening to see all the haters on here. The guy has the right to refuse the jab they call a vaccine. Remember my body my choice. I’m a Vikings fan and it doesn’t bother me one bit he hasn’t taken the jab. If it happens he misses some games so be it. That’s why you have back up. Hell most of you on here would rather he wasn’t on team anyways. So what’s the problem.

  83. Football players who put every substance known to man into their bodies just to get and edge are afraid of a vaccine. OK

  84. The irony here is that the hospital wasn’t even paying him. They probably had to do it anyway due to the times, but he can just donate his time elsewhere.

    That said, once the COVID stuff cools down a bit, there’s no doubt they’ll be calling him back up.

  85. I love all of the armchair MDs commenting in this thread about how vaccinations don’t work, masks don’t work, and there’s a 99% survival rate for covid. Refusing to wear a mask definitely doesn’t work, and vaccines have a much larger survival rate. The guy is representing a healthcare provider and using his platform to contradict the healthcare provider’s view. Why wouldn’t they and the relationship?

  86. The phrase this is a life or death situation is used often, almost always melodramatically. This isn’t melodrama. Ask friends of yours that are nurses or doctors and they will tell you with bloodshot tired eyes how serious this is. Because they live it as their work lives, scared to endanger their families, their friends let alone themselves. So why does a medical facility end a relationship with an athlete? When that athlete doesn’t take seriously the battle they are fighting each day. Any person here can have their varied opinion on this or that about this. If you know anyone who works in an ER, a hospital, as an ambulance driver or an EMT they won’t chuckle along at the BS reasons. They will be shaking their head as they look at a fool who talks the anti vaccine BS they might have to intubate some day.

  87. How about the hospital just heal people instead of virtue signaling

    They are trying to heal people but you won’t take the vaccine making their job harder

  88. All sides are wrong on this issue we are just arguing over who is “more wrong”. Do I have the answer probably not but I know what we are doing both Republican and Democrat vaccine ideas havent worked and they both have hindered the effort. But the problem is selective sciences and how both sides will post up their own factoids while ignoring evidence from the other side because it conflicts with their narrative. And you can thank the media for this as well and the social media people out there also for spreading selective disinformation. So basically you all suck. Thank you very much and stay the hell away from me.

  89. Anti-vaxers: Kirk Cousins should have the freedom to do whatever he wants and no one should criticize him for his own decision.
    Also anti-vaxers: How dare this hospital end it’s relationship with Kirk Cousins. They have absolutely no right to do this. People should boycott this hospital.

  90. So much misinformation and complete lack of education on these comments. Allow a nurse, who has seen covid’s impact FIRST HAND set you misguided fools straight…

    1.) Some people believe they have a good immune system and is not scared of covid. Maybe you seen someone not get too sick or maybe you just dont fear it. That’s fine. I personally think it has something to do with being blood type O. But regardless thats YOU. Its incredibly selfish to not protect against it because its NOT about just you but who you could SPREAD it to.

    2.) Those that think this is a fake virus are morons who I wish I could slap the crap out of. I worked in the emergency room where it was completely turned into an ICU. Bodies literally piled ontop of eachother. So dont ever insult me again with that fake virus BS.

    3.) Anti-vaxers die at a MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH higher rate than people who got the vaccine.

    4.) Masks and vaccine may not prevent you from getting covid, no more than a seatbelt will prevent you from dieing in a car crash. But the entire point is that they give you a “HIGHER CHANCE” ot not getting it. I mean jesus isnt that the point? You dont want something, so you do something to lessen the chance of getting it. But since its not 1000000% effective, you dont want to use it at all? Some piss poor logic if you ask me.

    5.) Sure its your body, your choice. I get that. However its you morons who will get it at a higher rate…. your body isnt vaccinated so many will likely keep it with you longer which allows you to spread it easier… and others get it. People you care about… People OTHERS care about. People I care about. Maybe they are vaccinated and will be just fine, or maybe they will be the 1% that die from it while even being vaccinated? Or maybe all you anti-vaxers who get it will get real sick and drown the hospital resources… preventing us who got vaxed and are fine from seeking care for other critical things. Maybe a grandmother who needs cardiac medical attention?

    All because of some illogical moral stance? Yeah… thanks alot you MORONS!!!

  91. After the last couple of years, I am ready for the Vikings to end their relationship with him too. The anti-vaccer stance was the last straw.

  92. I’m a volunteer EMT and over 60. I put myself at risk for the community and it is tremendously offensive that we make such poor and selfish choices. One trip to the ER Covid wing would probably convince selfish dopes like him to man up. Is the shot perfect? Probably not, but for sure better than the alternative.

  93. I’m sure I’ll get flamed over this, but

    a) Masks work. Let’s leave aside all the reports for a second and focus on one simple thing. These are aerosol droplets that we’re talking about. Yes, it’s a virus, but the more your face is blocked, the less likely you’ll get it.

    Are masks foolproof? No, absolutely not. Can masks prevent people from doing dumb things? Heck no. Even the Danish study that some have cited actually suggested in it’s report that wearing a mask could be a benefit to the wearer. If you go into a crowded space, you are obviously decreasing the possible benefits of masking and increasing the risks.

    Again, masks can’t stop human behavior, and many of our habits are actually conducive to spreading viruses.

    b) The vaccine did get FDA approval – it just isn’t fully approved. The vaccine has been tested and reviewed by the FDA. Keep in mind that the regulatory processes for these things were set up for a long haul. The vaccines were urgently needed, went through testing of all phases, and was reviewed. It has been one of the most rigorously tested vaccines. The mRNA vaccines degrade within the body fairly fast, so long term side effects are relatively unlikely. Again, keep in mind that these vaccines were developed so fast, so the normal regulatory procedures could not be followed – there was an urgent need. Again, it went through rigorous testing of each phase. I don’t have the numbers, but it was tested on a broad and wide sample.

    c) Doesn’t mean there aren’t side effects. There are extreme cases, and sometimes things happen. When they do, it’s awful, but it happens with most vaccines (extreme cases, that is). That doesn’t mean that the vaccines aren’t more valuable than they are dangerous. I’m particularly agitated with this notion that the vaccine has caused more deaths than the virus – that is simply not true (it’s close to what, 4 million dead worldwide?)

    d) By not getting vaccinated, what you are doing is increasing the risk that the virus will mutate even more. At some point, if it mutates enough, then a whole new set of vaccines will need to be developed, and we may face a stronger pandemic. Do people realize how devastating that would be? We focus on the deaths and survival rate – have people contemplated

    i) Other long term health impacts
    ii) That in many rural areas, hospital access is limited. Furthermore, in many areas, hospitals are key economic anchors as well. Hospitals being overcrowded, as they are in many places in the South, to the point where beds aren’t available, can lead to residual impacts on the economy that people aren’t considering.

    e) We need to remember science is still catching up. I see a lot of people faulting “science” these days, when most of these scientists are working hard to try and save lives. Doesn’t mean they will always be right, doesn’t mean they will always be perfect. It’s like steroids in sports – the cheaters (in this case, the virus) will always find a way first, because they are willing to spend on it, and the testing is always playing catch up.

    f) I don’t fault the hospital. They clearly stated that Kirk can have his own beliefs. They aren’t regulating his beliefs. They are simply saying that a hospital can’t have someone represent them that does not support the hospital’s actions. I don’t see anything wrong with what’s been done. Kirk can believe what he wants and put whoever he wants at risk. The hospital isn’t going to support that – which is their right.

  94. philmccracken says:
    August 6, 2021 at 9:48 pm
    I bet the hospitals monday night stats immediately improve.
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    🤣🤣

  95. thurmanmerman99 says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:00 pm
    Vaccinated people are getting and spreading it just as much as unvaccinated so why is this required? Makes absolutely no sense at all.

    I am guessing you feel the same way about the polio and small pox vaccination?
    We will never be rid of this virus. The more people that get the vaccination the more this virus will become nothing more them the flu.
    Of course you can transmit it if you are vaccinated. No one has ever said differently.
    Trouble with people of today. They despise being told what to do. I am in wonderment why people have this issue. But our current problems in the world are linked to the mentality like this.

  96. I’m always amazed when I read through the comments. People willfully ignore the advice of the top doctors and scientists on earth but happily latch on to social media misinformation. Anyone on earth can post something on social media. Facebook is not a legitimate source of news. Your neighbor who posts about the earth being flat and vaccines being dangerous is not a better, more reliable source than actual doctors and scientists.

  97. To think that parents make decision for their innocent children, and many are making decisions that are going to lead to the death of their children. Where and when does freedom start and stop? That’s why education is so important. Parents need to have the ability to make decisions, and be able to decipher who’s lying to you, and who’s telling the truth. Or better yet, have the ability to find the right sources and do their own research. Nobody is talking about the permanent organ damage this virus is causing, and how it’s going to impact the lives of the people that get the virus. This virus is not a one and done virus. It’s permanent.

  98. Getting a vaccine is like giving blood during a time of community emergency. Avoiding a vaccine for personal reasons is selfish, unpatriotic, and un-American.

    Change my mind.

  99. I never realized how truly gullible people are until I started reading some of the comments both here and on Foxnews. We are in the middle of a pandemic that would be almost over if people would just get vaccinated.
    Thankfully I live in an area where the population is vaccinated, I feel bad for those who live in areas where the vaccination rates are low. They are at risk just because they have the dumb luck to live with unvaccinated uneducated people.
    President Biden is right COVID 19 is now a disease of the unvaccinated.

  100. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    August 7, 2021 at 11:51 am

    I never realized how truly gullible people are until I started reading some of the comments both here and on Foxnews. We are in the middle of a pandemic that would be almost over if people would just get vaccinated.

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    I know two people who were vaccinated that contracted Covid. Were they gullible?

  101. I know two people who were vaccinated that contracted Covid. Were they gullible?
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    Still don’t understand that vaccines protect from hospitalization and death, seriously?

  102. Texas Republican leader H. Scott Apley who was a raging critic of mask wearing and the vaccine has died in the hospital from the coronavirus. Be careful of who you follow.

  103. nunya says:
    August 7, 2021 at 1:47 pm
    My body, my choice.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    So if I had a fire extinguisher and your house started to burn, you’re OK if I watched it burn to the ground? My extinguisher, my choice? I wouldn’t want other homes affected by your fire and I’d want all the neighbors to be safe. so I’d put it out. It’s the right thing to do.

  104. michaelnewsomejr says:
    August 6, 2021 at 5:13 pm
    The fact that vaccinated people continue to get infected and continue to transmit the virus is evidence that the vaccine isn’t safe or effective.
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    That’s really not how this works. The VIRUS is the problem, not the vaccine. Just like a flu vaccine won’t prevent you from getting the flu, COVID vaccines aren’t a guarantee of anything, but they help prevent more serious cases.

    COVID has all these variants, right? And it keeps mutating, so the vaccines are aiming at a moving target, and the longer the vaccine has hosts to keep it alive the more it can mutate and become worse.

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