Andrew Berry discusses potential impact of Josh Allen deal on Baker Mayfield

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Bills quarterback Josh Allen broke the bank on Friday. Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield also is due for a new, potential bank-breaking deal.

After news broke of Allen’s contract, Browns G.M. Andrew Berry appeared on ESPN Cleveland to discuss the potential impact of Allen’s deal on Mayfield.

“I think really for any player or any positional market we’re always aware of the deals that have been done over the past couple years and certainly any new deals that come up over the next couple weeks because we realize that it impacts the market to some degree,” Berry said. “But at the same time with any player that we’re considering extending we really deal with it on a case by case and individual level and really operate within the parameters that we think make sense for our organization and our team and that’s what we’ll continue to do across positions.”

Several years ago, the next quarterback up for a new deal typically got a little more than the last quarterback received. As these deals get bigger and more complicated, that presumption has faded. Now, teams do indeed look more at the player and less at the fact that the next man up automatically nudges the bar higher.

Objectively, Allen is more accomplished than Mayfield. The notion that Allen’s deal should be the baseline for Mayfield therefore may not be accepted by the Browns.

Mayfield may not like that. And he may react by committing himself to being even better in 2021 than he’s been, and then by wanting even more in 2022.

That’s the risk a team assumes by waiting. In Mayfield’s case, however, his full body of work suggests that it makes sense to give it another season. For the Bills, it made sense to sign Allen now.

Whatever the details eventually may be, it won’t be cheap for the Browns to keep Mayfield over the long haul. The question becomes whether, once the deal is done, the Browns will be vindicated for the expense — or whether they’ll eventually regret it, like the Rams and Eagles did with Jared Goff and Carson Wentz, respectively.

25 responses to “Andrew Berry discusses potential impact of Josh Allen deal on Baker Mayfield

  1. Yeah Allen is better than Mayfield and its not even close. He won’t get that kind of money, even though the Bills majorly overpaid for Allen

  2. Can the next quarterback just leave their ego at the door and be greatful for an amazing $40m per year to stay with their team?

    Maybe the extra few million leftover might help build a better team around them and make them better? No?

    Incredible how short sighted these players and their agents are. Russell Wilson hasn’t been back to the superbowl since he got his big contract that broke up the LoB…

  3. Baker can have something to aspire towards…but he damn sure hasn’t earned a contract that size yet.

  4. I think Mayfield needs a Super Bowl win to justify a big contract.He was drafted for being a winner and intangibles.He can start with a win in the opener against KC. How about with his first career winning 2 minute drive?

    I think Josh Allen got his new contract from the same high ceiling physical potential he was drafted for more so than what he’s done on the field so far.

    I think Stefanski sees Mayfield as only slightly physically better than Case Keenum who he coached in Minnesota and is there every day in Cleveland for comparison.

    I think Mayfield needs to show he’s more like Joe Montana than Case Keenum.

    I think, therefore I am, I think.

  5. Lets look at FACTS, you know those things that cant be disputed because they are accurate and True:

    Josh Allen Record 28-15 v Baker Mayfield 23-22
    Josh Allen 67 TD passes, 25 rushing TDs, 31 INTs vs Baker Mayfield 75 TDs, 4 rushing TDs and 43 INTs

    And here is an opinion, Baker Mayfield has 100X more talent to work with than Josh Allen has to work with.

    Browns would be foolish to give Mayfield any more than average QB money. He is not a horrible QB, but he is not great or even a good QB.

  6. $250M QBs win their division and win a playoff game against a Patrick Mahomes(less) KC playoff team.

    I will agree that Baker has not done what Allen has done with lesser talent.

    For the none Browns fans, Baker learned his 3rd offense, had a very conservative playcalling rookie head coach, and an absolute garbage defense with an underperforming Myles Garrett (Covid related). Excuses, probably, but legitimate concerns.

    Baker is returning a loaded offense with the same coaching staff/playbook, and a fortified defense. It is on him now help win the division and to take this team to the next level if he wants a record breaking deal.

  7. Mayfield will revert back to his 23 TDs 22 INT year. I have watched 2 Browns camp highlights and he threw picks in both of them. Mack Wilson intercepted one in the red zone mind you, and John Johnson intercepted the other. This guy is a turnover machine. The Browns won last year in spite of him not because of him. Wait til the teams the Browns play this year. They will lucky to finish over .500

  8. Tell the truth…..if you had a chance to choose either Mayfield or Allen to be your QB who would you choose? It has to be Allen in spite of what all the delusional Browns fans think. Mayfield hasn’t done enough to show he deserves a contract like Allen’s.

  9. BB zigs while rest of AFC zagging with QBs stupidly making 40 mil per.

    lol!!!

    I love it!

  10. Mayfield struggles against pressure, lacks mobility, and hasn’t put up superior stats his backup Case Keenum did in Minnesota. Definitely not worth anything close to $40M – will be the next Cousins if that happens.

  11. There people go comparing that class of QBs again. Bill fans are like they get upset if another guy gets paid as much. Why do you care? If anything, you should be rooting for it because the salary cap is real. Concentrate on your own player. Again, I can’t remember this much compare and contrasting the last time multiple first rounders were good, and two of the guys got traded for each other, and that guy won Super Bowls while the other didn’t. It’s just weird at this point.

  12. realfootballfan says:
    August 7, 2021 at 11:18 am
    There people go comparing that class of QBs again. Bill fans are like they get upset if another guy gets paid as much. Why do you care? If anything, you should be rooting for it because the salary cap is real. Concentrate on your own player. Again, I can’t remember this much compare and contrasting the last time multiple first rounders were good, and two of the guys got traded for each other, and that guy won Super Bowls while the other didn’t. It’s just weird at this point.

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    I am rooting for it! The best is watching their fans not get it and at the same time think their time has come doing it the wrong way.

    These qbs should have already been paid. The fact these teams have waited, gives the player way more leverage.

    Allen is not on Mahomes’s level and Mayfield is also not there.

    The Lamar Jackson money will be a hoot!

  13. With the Browns roster full of players who will command LARGE contracts giving Mayfield a ton of money has to have an effect on the future roster!

  14. You have a small window while your young QB is on his rookie deal. The way to build a team from scratch is to get a few really high end defensive players while your team is bad and picking high. But you have to hit on those picks. Then, draft your QB. It’s definitely a balancing act. Guys like Baker Mayfield and Dak Prescott get a lot of endorsement deals, so hopefully they’d want to try to win a couple super bowls before they get greedy and want half the salary cap paid to themselves. Mahomes was able to win early. Now it’s easier for the Chiefs to recruit good veteran free agents to come to town to get a ring. There are different ways to approach it. But one thing is for sure. If you consistently hit on your draft picks, both early and mid-round, you have the best shot. The Browns are doing a good job at that, plus picking up decent FA’s. Their personnel operation is running as well as any, right now. Mayfield hasn’t gotten to the elite level yet, but his team is strong throughout. They can win without an elite QB, and very few teams can do that.

  15. I have my doubts about Allen, but his upside is better than Mayfield’s.
    Tannehill is the best comparison for Mayfield. Capable enough but takes a back seat to their running game. If he tries to become their dominant offensive player with his passing skills, the Browns will regress.
    Offer him somewhat more than Tannehill and stick to it. Maybe try to pick up Minshew next offseason; I’d like to see him get a chance with a good team around him.

  16. romeo41,

    Buffalo has more good players than Cleveland. What does that even mean? If he can’t get the job done as the roster evolves, they’ll replace him just like Buffalo would Allen or Baltimore would Jackson. Right now, he’s fine, and he’s going to get paid as he should. Some of you fans are strange. Does losing that long fry your brain or something?

  17. The Browns have been looking for a QB for 20 years and Mayfield is a good one. Put the Freddy Kitchen year aside and sign this guy to a long-term deal. Don’t go through another 20 years of trying to find a QB.

  18. If Mayfield wants to championships he’s signs a reasonable deal that doesn’t hamstring his team for the rest of the decade.
    If he doesn’t, he can sign a contract like Josh Allen, Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, Russell Wilson…

  19. To put things in perspective, Baker Mayfield has never had a season as good as Ben Roethlisberger had last year. Yet everyone says Roethlisberger is washed up.

  20. I hope the Browns take their time with Baker. I believe he’s not going anywhere. Let him have the season we the Brown’s fans hope & need! Then pay the Man! Compared him with other QBs makes no sense he will get a payday but I think that’s not he wants! We know what he wants! Go Browns and take the Tribe with you!

  21. There is more uncertainty with Mayfield.
    I would rather wait a year and pay him a little more if has a good year, than lock him up and he have a mediocre year on a huge salary.

    If a QB turns out to be so-so and you are locked into him for several years at 42MM/year then your team is hurting.

  22. Lets look at FACTS, you know those things that cant be disputed because they are accurate and True:

    Josh Allen Record 28-15 v Baker Mayfield 23-22
    Josh Allen 67 TD passes, 25 rushing TDs, 31 INTs vs Baker Mayfield 75 TDs, 4 rushing TDs and 43 INTs

    And here is an opinion, Baker Mayfield has 100X more talent to work with than Josh Allen has to work with.

    Browns would be foolish to give Mayfield any more than average QB money. He is not a horrible QB, but he is not great or even a good QB.

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    Two names: Hue Jackson and Freddie Kitchens

    Those were Mayfields coaches the first 2 years of his career. I dont anyone is going to say they were good.

    Mayfield had a very good year last year, and he actually has a running game that scores TD’s (unlike Allen who scores more rushing TDs than his RB’s do. Not a knock on Allen but does explain the TD difference in that regard))

    I think Mayfield will have another good year. If he does, you pay him accordingly.

  23. Allen isn’t worth his contract and he is better than Mayfield. Giving out these massive contracts to QBs when the salary cap makes it a zero sum game hinders building the rest of the team.

    I don’t fault these players taking these contracts. Go get yours and set your family up for generations. It is just not a great formula for building a sustainable team.

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