NFLPA still does not believe vaccine mandates are the best approach

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The NFL disputes the NFL Players Association’s contention that the league never asked for a vaccine mandate for players. It ultimately doesn’t matter, because the NFLPA wasn’t going to agree to a mandate.

“The union and player leadership did not believe mandating vaccines for players was the best approach, as JC [Tretter] has pointed out repeatedly,” NFLPA spokesman George Atallah told Mark Maske of the Washington Post. “We know vaccines are effective but we also know our strict protocols — when followed — are effective, as we proved last year.”

The NFL may have wanted vaccine mandates for players, but the league knew that the union wouldn’t agree to it. The league believes that union leadership would be at risk of a revolt if vaccines became mandatory, given the number of high-profile players who have resisted vaccination. Besides, even if the NFLPA would relent, it would have required more of a concession than the league was willing to offer.

And so the league and union (whose non-player leadership definitely believes in the COVID vaccine) came up with an approach that strongly incentivizes vaccination. Vaccinated players are tested less frequently. They aren’t subject to a mandatory five-day absence after close contact with an infected person. They don’t have to wear masks in the facility or on the sideline. They can travel out of town for multiple days, since they aren’t required to be tested every day.

It has worked, to an extent. Some players continue to refuse to get the vaccination. Most of the holdouts surely believe that they aren’t subject to being cut next week. And most likely won’t be. Which means that they’ll constantly be subject to being gone for five days (for a close contact) or 10 days (for a positive test).

38 responses to “NFLPA still does not believe vaccine mandates are the best approach

  1. Whatever became of the “unique identifier” that was to be used for distinguishing between vaccinated & unvaccinated players???

  2. League/Union can’t agree? Each team is independently owned and operated. Whats from stopping a team from mandating all player/personnel be vaccinated? Nothing. That’s how this should be handled.

  3. I’m usually pro-union.

    But this is a really, really stupid hill to die on. (Dark humor pun intended.)

  4. This is just all so stupid and selfish to grasp. The union and the league should be able to get behind this easy. Sick or quarantined players don’t pay dues or play games. Oh and cut players don’t pay union dues either

  5. More evidence needs to be established showing vaccinated individuals have stronger and longer lasting immunity than those with a previous infection before you can legitimately institute a mandate. Interesting that the NFLPA calls for daily testing for all but the league is hesitant.

  6. That’s because its not. Just have all players, regardless of vaccination status, follow the same protocols as last year. Then we can have a complete season again despite the few game postponements we may see. The vaccine shouldn’t make this harder. According to the experts it should be easier and more fluid this year without interruptions… so they say.

  7. I’m still trying to figure out when unions decided that they were going to defend the positions of their most kooky, irrational, nutball cases instead of the physical well-being of all of their members.

    Yay for collective bargaining units that favor lunacy over rationality.

  8. It is now fully approved by the FDA. We all had to take shots before we could go to school as children. General Washington ordered ALL of his troops in the Continental Army to be vaxxed against Small Pox and they ALL did. Much of the work for creating this vaccine was already done BEFORE it broke out. I got the shot because I now have a much better chance of NOT getting really really sick or dying if I do happen to contract it. I just want to do or take whatever I have to to get through these dark times. I have a great life and a greater wife and a lot to live for. Their should not have to be a mandate to do something that could save your life … you should be fighting for a place at the front of the line. This isn’t political.

  9. It has worked to an extent? Nearly 95% of players are vaccinated … that’s pretty damn effective.

  10. This approach is not based on science as we now know vaccinated individuals can catch and spread the virus and carry higher viral loads without knowing they are sick. We also know natural immunity from previous infection provides great protection than the vaccine.

  11. It took the NFL probably all of 5 seconds to figure out they don’t need a “mandate” they make the rules. 98% of vaccine refuses have been cut already. Folks like Beasley will be replaced next year. From what I can tell the only QBs that haven’t taken in kind of suck and that will prove out this year.

  12. I mean, Pfizer is now backed by the FDA. Wasn’t that one of the main reasons why the flat-earth people weren’t getting the vaccine? Because it wasn’t backed by the FDA? What’s the newest excuse?

  13. None of this is based on science. We’ve already seen enough data to know that vaccinated people can get infected and spread the virus to others. They should all have to wear masks and isolate if in close contact. Treating one set of players differently might help get more players vaccinated, but it is not helping stop the spread of the virus or increasing player health and safety.

  14. “The union and player leadership did not believe mandating vaccines for players was the best approach,…”

    Who makes up the union and player leadership? I think an issue as important as this should be decided by the membership. It would be very interesting to see how this turned out if the members were allowed to vote.

  15. loser148 says:
    August 27, 2021 at 8:44 am
    This approach is not based on science as we now know vaccinated individuals can catch and spread the virus and carry higher viral loads without knowing they are sick. We also know natural immunity from previous infection provides great protection than the vaccine.
    —————————————————
    Using science one follows the evidence, the evidence is clear that the vaccine keeps one from being hospitalized and from DYING! So yes the approach is based on science!
    No, natural immunity does not prevent you from getting sick from a new variant, such as Delta!

  16. From a practical standpoint I find this argument to be pretty pointless given the large majority of players are already vaccinated. Some teams are at a 100% and there’s just a few straggler teams and even they sound like they’re in the 80% range or better. Throw in the fact that I can’t name an active player who has gotten seriously ill and this seems to be a moot point at least for now.

  17. Once teams are affected and the NFL starts to see all the damage unvaccinated players are causing what will they do?

  18. Delta has made the NFL protocols obsolete in just 2 months. Transmission rates are now no different for vaxed and unvaxed. Treating the unvaxed as pariahs is a complete injustice to those players.

  19. health insurance companies should require all customers to be fully vaccinated or coverage for covid related medical care stops. you can bet premiums are going to go up next year for everyone and it’s a result of significant expenses incurred when a large portion of it could have been mitigated by getting the freaking vaccine.

  20. My father in law had to wait in a bed in the emergency room for hours with an aneurism in his aortic because beds were filled with idiots that are not vaccinated. I say kick out those patients and take of of those people smart enough to get the vaccine. For those not smart enough in the NFL to get the shot this mandate is needed.

  21. The NFLPA may not think a vaccine mandate is the best approach, but it sure would solve this problem. It’s a fact that the majority of hospitalized COVID patients are unvaccinated. That should be enough to convince them, but it isn’t, unfortunately.

  22. All across the country, hospital ICU wards are filling to capacity with Covid cases.

    You know what none of these hospitals are filled with? Patients suffering from vaccine complications.

    Get the darn shot!

  23. The facts are that the Covid vaccines do not prevent transmission and do not protect from other variants. Which is no surprise because it’s no different than normal flu viruses.

  24. People can’t figure out the reason the Delta variant, which can infect the vaccinated, evolved is because we missed the herd immunity window because of the un-vaccinated. There’ll be more variants, thanks to them, They’ll come back with “…….told you so! “ Morons.

  25. Again normal people need to worry about themselves rather than care what everyone else is doing. You get the juice or not, NOT my problem.

  26. We missed herd immunity, because so many cowards hid in their houses for over a year.

  27. The COVID percentages are under 20% of the ICU beds. but if it’s that much of a problem, maybe the tax-payer funded stadiums should be used as triage and treatment centers manned by each state’s National Guard so our hospitals wouldn’t be affected.

  28. thetooloftools says:
    August 27, 2021 at 8:26 am
    It is now fully approved by the FDA. We all had to take shots before we could go to school as children. General Washington ordered ALL of his troops in the Continental Army to be vaxxed against Small Pox and they ALL did.

    —————

    Okay…what am I missing here? I know at times there is sarcasm but I have to admit I may be missing it.

    Please tell me the OP doesn’t really believe this…right?

  29. Jesus Christ some of these comments are insane. Multiple people saying it’s a “fact” that unvaccinated are the ones spreading Covid (false) the unvaccinated are the majority of hospital cases (false) that the shot is safe (also false). Try working in a hospital to actually know the truth. It’s the vaccinated that are dying and spreading and highly contagious. Unlike 99% of people on this board, I actually work ALL these units. Seen hundreds of people have severe reactions to these shots. Had 9 VACCINATED patients pass in the last 2 weeks. Not ONE unvaccinated person has in my hospital. Turn of the liberal news TV for your “facts”. Our doctors are getting $50,000 bonuses for every 100 patients they coerce into taking the clot shot as they call it. Wake up!

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