NFL’s chief medical officer pushes back on Bill Belichick’s comments regarding vaccinations

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Bill Belichick has grumbled his way into a dispute with the league office over the COVID vaccine.

On Wednesday, Belichick shrugged his way around the obvious implication of the stunning fall of Cam Newton from starting quarterback to, eight days later, off the team. Belichick not surprisingly bristled at the suggestion that Newton’s vaccination status played a role in the move. (It surely did.)

“You guys keep talking about that, and I would just point out that I don’t know what the number is,” Belichick said. “I mean, you guys can look it up. You have the access to a lot of information, but the number of players and coaches and staff members that have been infected by COVID in this training camp [around the NFL] who have been vaccinated is a pretty high number, so I wouldn’t lose sight of that. . . . We have other players on the team who aren’t vaccinated, as I would say, probably does every other team in the league. We’ve had minimal throughout the league. There’ve been a number of, quite a high number I would say, of players who have had the virus who have been vaccinated, so your implication that vaccination solves every problem, I would say that has not been substantiated based on what’s happened in training camp [throughout the NFL] this year.”

On Friday, NFL chief medical officer Allen Sills pushed back on Belichick’s contention that “quite a high number” of vaccinated players have had the virus.

“We released our data last week from the first three weeks of August, and that data has consistently shown higher rates of infection in unvaccinated players than in vaccinated players,” Sills told Judy Battista of NFL Media, via Matt Vatour of MassLive.com. “That was true at intake when they first came into training camp and it was true during that first three-week period of August that we released. From a medical perspective, go to any major medical center in the country and as you walk around, those patients who are hospitalized, those who are in the ICU, you see the evidence the vaccines are working.”

Sills admits that some vaccinated players are getting COVID. But he points out the major reality that the anti-vaxx crowd chooses to ignore: the vaccinated recover much more quickly and are far less likely to, you know, die.

“We know that vaccines are working,” Sills said. “What we are seeing are some vaccinated people who test positive. But their illness tends to be very short and very mild, and that’s exactly what the vaccines were designed to do. Let’s all remember the vaccines were designed to prevent serious illness, hospitalization and death. They’re doing a terrific job of that so far, not only in the NFL where we haven’t seen any serious cases but in society as a whole.”

Sills is right. And Belichick surely knows it. His goal was (I believe) to throw dirt on the obvious connection between Cam’s lack of vaccination and his potential lack of availability. Newton, like all unvaccinated players, was tested every day. Including game day. So if Belichick had made Cam the starter, Belichick would have had to worry about Newton testing positive the day of a game, any game. Like the game to be played in four weeks and one day against Tom Brady and the Buccaneers.

Newton also had constant susceptibility to a five-day absence for having close contact with an infected person. Vaccinated players do not face such consequences this year. Also, and as the Patriots learned two weeks ago, Cam didn’t understand the very basic and simple requirement that a player must be tested every day at the team facility, which resulted in a five-day break and gave Mac Jones the chance to persuade Belichick that, all things being equal, it was better to entrust the starting job to the quarterback who could be trusted to be available for every game.

Could Jones test positive at some point? Yes, but it would happen long enough before a game begins to allow the Patriots to pivot more smoothly to Plan B. With Newton, Belichick would have constantly had to be ready, at little as a few hours before kickoff, to scrap the game plan and get Jones ready to go.

So that’s why Belichick chose to muddy the waters. Candor would have gotten him in the same spot the Jaguars now occupy, with the NFL Players Association seeking emails, text messages, and other evidence containing any direct or indirect proof that Cam got cut because he wasn’t vaccinated. Even if it was something as simple as Belichick texting to one of his sons something like, “I can’t rely on this guy unless he gets vaccinated.”

91 responses to “NFL’s chief medical officer pushes back on Bill Belichick’s comments regarding vaccinations

  1. I’m sure it plays a role. But, Cam already got Covid. Why get the vaccine if you already had virus, and have the antibodies? Idk, all seems wild. Go Pats. Bill is the goat.

  2. I understand that this website is full-on pushing the get vaccinated message, and that this comment may never see the light of day, but can we address at least a couple of reasonable questions here? If New England still has unvaccinated players on the roster, why would you keep them and not your starting QB? and, If both vaccinated and unvaccinated people can spread the virus, what sense does it make to quarantine unvaccinated players for 5 days after a close contact but not quarantine vaccinated people? What is the purpose of that? If it was to reduce the spread, it seems to make sense that you would quarantine everyone who could spread the disease right?

  3. Same people pushing for private business to require employees to be vaccinated are up in arms about this. Make up your minds.

  4. Why do the anti-vaxxers place their trust in some moron on Facebook or talk radio instead of undisputed medical science? Why are they so willing to ingest horse dewormer or bleach instead of vaccines that have been researched and tested for over 20 years?

    In addition to the covid19 pandemic, we have a rampant pandemic of idiocy in this country. The latter is fueling the former.

  5. While the response COULD be viewed as irresponsible and I personally didn’t like what he said. The fact remains Bill couldn’t say that it had an impact on Cam’s release or he’d wind up in the Urban Meyers mess. Bill’s WAY too media savvy to fall into that trap.

  6. urmom says:
    September 4, 2021 at 9:06 am
    I’m sure it plays a role. But, Cam already got Covid. Why get the vaccine if you already had virus, and have the antibodies? Idk, all seems wild. Go Pats. Bill is the goat.
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    The CDC says that people who have already had the virus are twice as likely as fully vaccinated individuals to get COVID.

  7. urmom says:
    September 4, 2021 at 9:06 am
    I’m sure it plays a role. But, Cam already got Covid. Why get the vaccine if you already had virus, and have the antibodies? Idk, all seems wild. Go Pats. Bill is the goat.
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    Please enlighten yourself with some real medical information. Not everyone develops antibodies from having the virus. Those who do only retain those antibodies for a few months. Despite what your cousin said on Facebook, antibodies from having had the virus are NOT 27 times stronger than vaccine protection.

    Every legitimate medical organization, every government health organization, every legitimate doctor recommends that people who have had covid19 still need to be vaccinated. Every. Single. One.

  8. According to the CDC:

    If I have already had COVID-19 and recovered, do I still need to get vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine?

    Yes, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19 because:

    Research has not yet shown how long you are protected from getting COVID-19 again after you recover from COVID-19.
    Vaccination helps protect you even if you’ve already had COVID-19.
    Evidence is emerging that people get better protection by being fully vaccinated compared with having had COVID-19. One study showed that unvaccinated people who already had COVID-19 are more than 2 times as likely than fully vaccinated people to get COVID-19 again.

  9. The only thing Belichick said that is remotely questionable is that a “high number” of vaccinated people have then tested positive for the virus, which are often referred to as breakthrough cases.

    It’s undeniably true that there have been breakthrough cases in the NFL. People want to fine him for this statement, so we would be fining him for saying the words “high number”? Is 10 a high number? Is 20? I want the pro-finers to define it for me. Please let me know what exactly he needs to be fined for.

  10. Cam didn’t follow clearly established team protocols regarding testing. Combine that dumb mistake with the fact that Jones has more upside, and is better than Cam, it had to be easy for BB to make this choice. It’s as simple as following instructions. Cam is the reason Cam got the hammer

  11. BB is right. Sills is right. However they’re talking a two separate issues which is usually the case with pro vaxx people. BB is talking about numbers in the nfl Sills is talking about numbers everywhere. Cam did not end up in the hospital. None of the players in the nfl will end up in the hospital vaxxedor not. It’s because they’re much more active and healthier than most of Americans. People that do not want the vaxx aren’t listening to Facebook and other conspiracy theories. They simply know their own bodies better than anyone else in the world. That’s what has gotten lost. The vaxx has been forced down everyone’s throat yet whenever another way to treat it comes about it gets hidden. The answer cannot and should never be to just inject everyone on earth and pray it goes away. Viruses don’t die. They will always mutate so while yes the vaccine does mitigate symptoms it does not make you immune. Some people are willing to trust their own bodies more than the government. Who by the way was pushing booster shots against FDA officials suggestions. 2 higher ups already resigned over it. Look it up!

  12. Cam, Lamar and Mond all got covid, but did they ended up in the hospital or die? Do your math.How many unvaccinated survived or recovered from covid in 2019-2021? Get your information straight.

  13. gibson45 says:
    September 4, 2021 at 9:16 am
    Why do the anti-vaxxers place their trust in some moron on Facebook or talk radio instead of undisputed medical science? Why are they so willing to ingest horse dewormer or bleach instead of vaccines that have been researched and tested for over 20 years?

    In addition to the covid19 pandemic, we have a rampant pandemic of idiocy in this country. The latter is fueling the former.

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    Been going on for years.

    Look at Spygate and Deflategate or even Framegate III. People just believe wnatever is served up to them and use fake info to reinforce their original feelings.

    Throw in narcissim, unable to admit they are wrong, and here we are.

    Note the narcissism element with the anti-vaxxers.

  14. A little bit hypocritical for Belichick to Hold Cam accountable for pleading ignorance to rules and Protocols. If anybody were to give someone a pass for “misinterpreting” the rules it would be Belichick. I’m surprised they cut him because it’s clear Cam has embraced the Patriot Way.

  15. urmom says:
    September 4, 2021 at 9:06 am
    I’m sure it plays a role. But, Cam already got Covid. Why get the vaccine if you already had virus, and have the antibodies? Idk, all seems wild. Go Pats. Bill is the goat.

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    I can actually explain this, factually and with NO politics whatsoever. I should start by saying my personal doctor also has degrees in chemistry and pharmacology and is a trusted friend above all else.

    So… last December, my brother in Tennessee and his family all got (regular) Covid-19. It almost killed my brother. When the vaccine became available they got it anyway on the advice of his doctor.

    Early August, they came here to Wisconsin because our mom is not doing well. Upon arrival, he said “My throat’s a little scratchy and I have a slight headache. I should probably test before I see Mom.” Good call. He was positive for the Delta variant (picked it up at a work dinner where they ate with masks off) and of course gave it to me, who had also been vaccinated.

    I got pretty bad sick, but nowhere near the point of being hospitalized. Now here’s the explanation from my doctor, who again I say is a trusted friend above all else…

    Delta is 20 times more contagious than the standard variant but because I had been vaccinated I had enough antibodies to put up a fight from minute one. He said I likely would have been done for otherwise, due to age (61) and other comorbidities. Because my brother had been vaccinated AND already had Covid once, he had enough antibodies to where it barely affected him at all, although he was still able to spread it.

    Luckily, my wife was out of town when this happened as she’s immunocompromised due to meds for RA. So I still need to be careful not to pick it up somewhere and bring it home to her. And that’s all I’m going to say about that.

  16. The reason there’s a new covid strain is the same reason it will continue to mutate…. Anti vaxxers…. YOU JUST CAN’T CURE STUPID!!!

  17. Just get vaccinated- what’s the big deal? We’ve all been vaccinated for various diseases throughout our lives- Just do it!

  18. Anti Vax people saying “I’ll never get the vaccine, I do t know what’s in it”
    As they fill up several prescriptions and pop pills everyday of things they have absolutely no idea the ingredients.
    And let’s not forget all the vaccines you give your babies and children, without even a care in the world what’s in them.
    Could someone explain to me that logic?

  19. This is nothing new. Everyone knows seatbelts don’t save 100 % of the lives of people who are in car crashes, but they indisputably save thousands of lives. Everyone that smokes cigarettes doesn’t die of cancer, but smoking indisputably causes cancer in a high percentage of smokers. The numbers are indisputable about covid, too. Most rules and laws are made by dealing with percentages and odds. Belichick is being political. He was on the losing side in the last election, and his side hasn’t accepted the loss. But this has nothing to do with Cam Newton. Newton and Belichick are about as opposite as you can get. I always thought the Pats signed Newton last year to distract the media from another scandal, as they had just been caught cheating again the day before they signed Newton. The ploy worked to perfection, as few people will remember anything about the scandal. Look it up, if you’re interested in truth. Also, the way they used Newton last year, as a runner, told me they weren’t interested in him being their long term goal at QB. You don’t use you QB as a human battering ram. Belichick won 6 super bowls with Tom Brady, and he hasn’t won anything without Brady. He’s no dummy. What do Brady and Newton have in common? Nothing. Why would anyone believe Newton was in their long term plans? Do you not follow football? Mac Jones might not be Brady, but his game is much closer to Brady’s than Newton’s.

  20. Um,Bill Bellicheck never said more were testing positive vaccinated than testing positive unvaccinated. This NFL official sounds like fact checkers adding things people never said.

  21. The question that everyone tries to get around if you get vaccinated and still get it, how does it protect you and what is the point of getting it?

  22. I believe the coach that they didn’t cut Cam Newton because of his vaccination status. They cut him because they were going with Mac Jones. Cam Newton is not a guy you can keep on the roster as a backup. To distracting. Footsteps. You want your rookie to own the team without looking over his shoulder. Cam would have been cut even with a vaccine.

  23. Numbers are fun. 100 people are vaccinated and only 3 catch the virus that’s only 3% but if there are only 10 unvaccinated and only 1 gets it well that’s three times the number percentage wise. If you (florio) are having a hard time understanding my point allow me to clear it up for you. The sample size is too small to draw any kind of accurate conclusion.

  24. Its pretty simple. Take the vaccination. If you get COVID chances are you will be very sick for a few days instead of very dead (or brought near enough to make recovery long and arduous…

  25. Cam Newton is not as good as Mac Jones. period. full stop. Some sports writers pick New England to win the Super Bowl and they are not doing it because they think Newton will be the starting quarterback.

  26. No one is invincible. Vaccines protect no one. Only way is masks, hand washings and social distancing. Get your information straight, doctor. Bill is 100 percent correct.

  27. Let’s not forget that Cam Newton has a big contract. Cutting him saves a lot of salary cap space, if he lost the battle to be the starter. The cap space can be used to improve the team later in the season.

  28. lets be frank folks BB got rid of cam because of his well not very good arm, and not because he refused to get that jab in the arm thus doing the team in the long run the least amount of harm …. medical or otherwise !!

  29. IMO Cam got cut because the protocols sidelined him for 5 days, letting Jones overtake him in the battle for starting.

    Cam just lost his could be his last chance to prove he is a starter. Even if he didnt think the shot helps against illness, what did he gaining by not having the shot?

  30. I believe it has nothing to do vaccination. Bill is all about winning and if a player can give him a better chance to win, he would keep him on the roster. Of course if two players are dead even skill wise at the same position, he or any sensible coach would choose the vaccinated one. But Mac simply beat Cam out. And unrelated to vax is that Cam has a huge personality and he probably was not interested in being a backup and it might affect the locker room if the team has to focus on Mac being the leader. I think Bill respects Cam so he can choose his next destination. Also, the media KEEP asking Bill the same damn question over and over again, of course he’s going to retort the notion of vax or next.

  31. Why doesn’t the NFL just state what the actual numbers are?? By not doing so you just open up more questions. I would like to know the truth vs. someones opinion.

  32. californianewton says:
    September 4, 2021 at 11:23 am

    Let’s not forget that Cam Newton has a big contract. Cutting him saves a lot of salary cap space, if he lost the battle to be the starter. The cap space can be used to improve the team later in the season.

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    Wrong, not only did Cam have a small contract, his salary for this season was fully guaranteed. Unless Cam signs somewhere else, the Patriots get no salary cap relief at all from cutting Cam.

  33. gibson45 says:
    September 4, 2021 at 9:16 am

    Why do the anti-vaxxers place their trust in some moron on Facebook or talk radio instead of undisputed medical science? Why are they so willing to ingest horse dewormer or bleach instead of vaccines that have been researched and tested for over 20 years?

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    100% agree

  34. Maybe the NFL’s chief medical officer could tell us how many vaccinated versus unvaccinated players have been hospitalized or died from covid. Or I could just tell you. It’s zero for both.

  35. People have very overestimated how severe the virus is on 99% of people that get it. And very overestimated the effectiveness of the shots as well. And some have overestimated the short term side effects, minus the after 6 months it becomes virtually ineffective. Only thing more overestimated is the cloth on their face.

  36. As time goes on history will show that the genius of The Hoody can be traced back to TB12. Nothing more, nothing less. Given how good KC and BUF are, he will never make it back to the SB again. You heard it here first.

  37. So you cut your starting QB because he’s not vaccinated in order to send a message to other less important unvaccinated players on the team? That makes no sense, Mike.

  38. Would anyone care to mention that unvaccinated players get tested everyday and vaccinated players have gotten tested once every 14 days until recently??? That’s why the rate is higher for unvaccinated. But you won’t see the media share that will you

  39. No, that’s not why. It’s because vaccinated people get infected 7x less than unvaccinated. Why the anti Vax crew keep making up balcony excuses to not do a simple thing and instead decide to be selfish and hold the whole country back is astonishing. History will laugh at the ignorance

  40. I wonder if the fact that Cam Newton sucks and is barely even a shell of his former self had anything to do with the fact that a fairly decent evaluator of talent decided to cut him????????

  41. People have vastly overestimated the severity of th virus??? Almost 700,000 people are dead! 500k because of that kind of attitude.. And this guy is getting thumbs up. Seriously, what is wrong with you people?

  42. Slow news day. “Quite a few” from Belichick and “some” NFL’s chief medical officer. Always fun reading Belichick press conferences, though they are absolutely unwatachable. Pure torture, even for fans.

    Newton was the starter until he wasn’t. Mac Jones should sufficient progress to overtake Cam. Belichick gets a lot of criticism but his record speaks for itself.

  43. Rookie Mac Jones was teaching vet Cam Newton parts of the playbook, but sure, get cute with your little (it surely did) about Newton being cut because he’s unvaccinated. (you surely don’t know that)

    If vaccination status was ‘surely’ factoring in how come the league’s % of vaccinated players prior to the 53 man rosters was 93, and afterwards…93?

  44. The point Bill made was that even if you’re vaccinated you can still test positive and miss time, so merely being vaccinated won’t guarantee that you won’t have to miss time due to Covid protocols. The time missed will be a shorter duration, and the illness itself isn’t likely to affect your health as strongly someone who is unvaccinated, but the fact remains that simply being vaccinated doesn’t solve every problem since you can still miss time even if you are vaccinated. You’re making it sound a lot worse than it actually was.

  45. Again, don’t care about the vax/anti-vax debate. I do care about the NFL rules that make unvaccinated players less likely to be available to their teams. Good teammates put the team ahead of self – it ain’t rocket science (or should I say medical science?).

  46. a high number of players in the NFL that have caught covid was vaccinated oh oh don’t start bring that kind of reality into the conversation. Next thing you know you will have to treat every play that get covid the same.Can’t have that.

  47. gibson45 says:
    September 4, 2021 at 9:28 am

    Please enlighten yourself with some real medical information. Not everyone develops antibodies from having the virus. Those who do only retain those antibodies for a few months. Despite what your cousin said on Facebook, antibodies from having had the virus are NOT 27 times stronger than vaccine protection.

    Every legitimate medical organization, every government health organization, every legitimate doctor recommends that people who have had covid19 still need to be vaccinated. Every. Single. One.

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    Interesting, my doctor said the exact opposite in relation to me and my whole family who contracted and recovered back in May, please quit spreading misinformation as Not. Every. Single. Doctor is recommending to get vaccinated after recovering, that is a blatant lie.

  48. thesnakestabler says:
    September 4, 2021 at 4:39 pm

    gibson45 says:
    September 4, 2021 at 9:28 am

    Please enlighten yourself with some real medical information. Not everyone develops antibodies from having the virus. Those who do only retain those antibodies for a few months. Despite what your cousin said on Facebook, antibodies from having had the virus are NOT 27 times stronger than vaccine protection.

    Every legitimate medical organization, every government health organization, every legitimate doctor recommends that people who have had covid19 still need to be vaccinated. Every. Single. One.

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    Interesting, my doctor said the exact opposite in relation to me and my whole family who contracted and recovered back in May, please quit spreading misinformation as Not. Every. Single. Doctor is recommending to get vaccinated after recovering, that is a blatant lie.

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    What med school did your doctor go to? DeVry? As for Gibso45’s original comment, it most certainly was not a “blatant” lie. The point is, virtually ALL medical doctors are recommending vaccination even for those who have already had the virus. Period.

  49. The NFL’s Chief Medican Officer can release all the data he wants to in order to push the vaccine narrative of the league (and those who are so richly paying them to do so). The problem is that a lot of people DO NOT TRUST that data. They are wise to distrust these people.

  50. tedmurph says:
    September 4, 2021 at 2:28 pm
    People have vastly overestimated the severity of th virus??? Almost 700,000 people are dead! 500k because of that kind of attitude.. And this guy is getting thumbs up. Seriously, what is wrong with you people?

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    Over 80% of those are over 75 year old. Are you saying that without Covid that these people would all be alive today?

  51. kissbillsrings says:
    September 4, 2021 at 10:15 am

    The reason there’s a new covid strain is the same reason it will continue to mutate…. Anti vaxxers…. YOU JUST CAN’T CURE STUPID!!!

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    There is a new strain of the flu every year too, and we haven’t shut down the world economy for that.

    The reason there is – and will continue to be new vaccines for new strains is because of one thing- MONEY. Big pharma is making billions (if not trillions when all is said and done) off of these new vaccines, and THAT is why the push will continue for them.

  52. The last pro football player, vaccinated or not, who died from COVID was…? Anyone?

    No counting 80 year olds who played in the 50’s! Only Brady’s age or less!

  53. The mRNA vaccines are a proven commodity. However the PCR test gives some strange results. The PCR test amplifies even RNA fragments, which are not infectious. As a result, there is no way this PCR test can determine if the person who tested positive is infectious. This has nothing to do with asymptomatic people who actually have small amounts of the replicating virus in their body. Fragments of RNA cannot replicate! Fragements present absolutely no risk! The PCR test cannot tell you that! Only a culture can tell you that.

  54. Ontario Canada just had about 100 kids hospitalized with vaccine related heart inflammation. No matter how vilified, I will not stop being skeptical of these so called vaccines.

  55. So how many “vaccinated” players have tested positive for the coronavirus? I don’t see the answer.

    The “vaccines” don’t prevent anyone from catching or spreading the virus (though it may reduce the spread). The “vaccines” are really just a proactive therapeutic to reduce the impact of the virus to stop/minimize the development of COVID-19.

  56. Questioning the information one is given regarding this disease and the vaccine doesn’t make you anti anything. Questioning is the very foundation of reason. Those who ridicule people who have yet to receive the vaccine aren’t doing much to persuade anyone. As to those posters who blame unvaccinated people for the disease should refocus on the question of whether or not this was created in a lab (IMO the most likely source), who funded it, how it got out of the lab, and why the most populated nation on earth refuses to cooperate in such an investigation. If every single person in our country got vaccinated tonight, it wouldn’t stop this disease because it is worldwide, and like the flu won’t go away. Get mad at the disease and those who may have created it, not each other.

  57. Over 80% of those are over 75 year old. Are you saying that without Covid that these people would all be alive today?

    250,000 people under the age of 75 have also died. That doesn’t count people with long term Covid or all the children getting sick from the Delta variant. What’s your misinformed point anyway? Old people don’t matter or 250k isn’t that much.

    Whether or not it was created in a lab? At this point, who cares? People are dying. The unvaccinated are directly responsible for the latest surge, as well as the Delta variant. Yes, if every person in America were vaccinated, the virus would largely be eradicated. No person with an IQ over 90 would fail to understand this.

  58. Thank god we have BB and his science degree leading the way on important life saving information!

  59. @tedmurph “ The unvaccinated are directly responsible for the latest surge, as well as the Delta variant. ”

    Wrong. The delta variant was announced in India back in December 2020. When did the vaccines roll out? Yea not before that. So it looks like pro-vaxxers are misinformed as well.

  60. I am very pro vaccination.

    That said, after reading Belichick’s quotes again it is clear he said vaccination “doesn’t solve every problem”.

    What he did was refuse to say Cam was being released because he wasn’t vaccinated.

    I don’t care if Judy Battista and the NFL’s Chief Medical Officer want to imply Belichick compared un-vaccination status to vaccination status. He didn’t. It’s plain English.

    Belichick, as always, was protecting his players from attack. I night agree he would be better off protecting them from the virus but these stories have an agenda.

    The NFL could have required all employees, including players and coaches, be vaccinated. They didn’t but want to have it both ways. They are pretending to have the moral high ground in this interview.

    To my knowledge, Belichick is the only NFL guy to cut a starting qb who was unvaccinated. Actions speak louder than words.

  61. Exactly what I’m talking about. The vaccine rolled out in America on 12/14/2020. The Delta was traced back to December in India, but their surge started in May. America’s started in July. Go back to the kiddie table.

  62. Oh so the mutation of the virus happened while everyone was unvaccinated. Exactly. So you also helped spread the mutated virus. It didn’t mutate after vaccines rolled out like you implied big guy. Come join me at the kiddie table

  63. Seems like BB hit the nail on the head. These breakthrough cases are way more common than people want to admit. That’s why the CDC only reports severe cases where as the NFL is reporting all cases. Lots of vaccinated people out there walking around with the virus looking down on the unvaxxed. Pretty sad. I believe the efficacy of the vaccine was propped up a but too much by the powers that be. Difference between the covid vaccine and the polio vaccine? The polio vaccine prevents the spread and mutation of the virus.

  64. Nobody denies the mutation happened while people were unvaccinated. That just proves my point. Thank you. The more unvaccinated people The more the virus persists. The more the virus persists, the more chance there is for further mutations. Maybe the vaccine doesn’t work on the next one. Then the economy gets shut down and we go back to square one. Understand son?

  65. Difference between the covid vaccine and the polio vaccine? The polio vaccine prevents the spread and mutation of the virus.

    Amazing! Polio was eradicated because EVERYBODY GOT THE VACCINE AS A CHILD!!!! Seriously, did anyone on this thread finish high school??

  66. There were never guarantees provided with the vaccines. Do you understand? No guarantees. That’s not an indictment against vaccines. It’s testament to the virulent nature of the Delta variant. Now, one out of five persons infected has been vaccinated. It’s a wall of defense, but not guaranteed. It’s still a damn good wall of defense. As long as a large percentage of people refuse to get the vaccine, the longer this will drag out.

  67. Until psi results are publicly shared from the NFL I will never believe anything they say…embarrassing league. Just so lucky we Americans love football so much cause the NFL does everything they can to turn away regular Joe fans.

  68. goodellisaclown says:
    September 4, 2021 at 5:00 pm
    What med school did your doctor go to? DeVry? As for Gibso45’s original comment, it most certainly was not a “blatant” lie. The point is, virtually ALL medical doctors are recommending vaccination even for those who have already had the virus. Period
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    Look, we get it, only the Doctors YOU approve of are actually “legitimate” because of why exactly? Would you like my Doctor’s number so you can try and shame him also, because he uses critical thinking skills and has for the past 20 years when treating me an my family? Why don’t you just admit that ALL Doctors you know and with your same thought process are recommending the vaccine, while there are others that do not, it would be much easier and truthful that way.

  69. thesnakestabler says:
    September 4, 2021 at 9:39 pm
    Look, we get it, only the Doctors YOU approve of are actually “legitimate” because of why exactly? Would you like my Doctor’s number so you can try and shame him also, because he uses critical thinking skills and has for the past 20 years when treating me an my family? Why don’t you just admit that ALL Doctors you know and with your same thought process are recommending the vaccine, while there are others that do not, it would be much easier and truthful that way.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    If you look long enough you’ll certainly find a doctor somewhere that believes the earth is flat or believes the Q-nuts are onto something.

  70. Gotta give Bill for highlighting an under reported issue: athletes with vaccinations getting COVID. In the entertainment industry we are seeing musicians canceling shows due to positive COVID tests from people already vaccinated. His point was that vaccinations are not a silver bullet, ergo players without a vaccination are not the sole focus at this point in keeping a team safe. It was a warning to all not be complacent. Fantasy footballers, watch your inactive list before each game. More surprises this year.

  71. Israel has as the highest vaccination rate in the world. This past week was the worst week for COVID-19 in Israel EVER. Israel is setting records for vaccinated people in the hospital. Deaths are skyrocketing. The second most vaccinated country in the.World is Gibraltar Who has also seen a recent spike.

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