PFT’s 2021 MVP watch, Week Three

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It’s Wednesday, still. I forgot earlier today to slap together our new feature, the MVP watch. Containing the PointsBet odds.

Here are the current finalists, as I see it.

Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray (+750): Another week, another great performance. The Cardinals avoided losing when Vikings kicker Greg Joseph missed a 37-yard field goal. That boosts Murray, who needs to have an NFC West crown to have a serious shot at winning the award.

Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady (+550): He’s nearly the betting favorite. Soon, he could be. It hinges in many respects on whether the Bucs can beat the Rams and then the Patriots.

Raiders quarterback Derek Carr (+2000): Down from 40-1 to 20-1, Carr will keep climbing if the Raiders keep winning. For now, they will.

Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson (+1500): That signature win over the Chiefs vaults Jackson back into the conversation.

Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford (+1000): If the Rams continue to be one of the best teams in the conference, Stafford will continue to be one of the finalists for MVP.

Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson (+1000): But for the blown lead against the Titans, his case would be even stronger. If they can avoid the collapses, his case will strengthen.

Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers (+1200): Down from 16-1 to 12-1 after a Week Two get-right win, Rodgers can make his case by beating the 49ers and Steelers in the next two weeks.

Others to watch: Dak Prescott (+1500), Josh Allen (+1400), Patrick Mahomes (+500), Teddy Bridgewater (+4000).

Ignore for now: Joe Burrow (+10000), Baker Mayfield (+3300), Ryan Tannehill (+3300), Justin Herbert (+2200), Jameis Winston (+5000).

Major value plays: Derrick Henry (+10000), Christian McCaffrey (+10000).

21 responses to “PFT’s 2021 MVP watch, Week Three

  1. Stupid. Just call the award quarterback of the year, no other position is even considered anymore.

  2. Whether the Bucs will beat the Patriots..

    That’s a joke right?

    I hate both teams but the Bucs will destroy the Patriots

  3. Aren’t we forgetting someone? Jim G. recently inserted himself into the MVP conversation and did you know he currently has a 99.9 PEEVOM (projected extra efficiency value over median). That’s getting close to Tarkenton territory.

  4. Popularity contest, plain and simple.
    How is AR even In this conversation after that week 1 horror show?

  5. candlestickkid says:
    September 22, 2021 at 8:33 pm
    Stupid. Just call the award quarterback of the year, no other position is even considered anymore
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    Bingo. 100% it’s a joke of an award anymore.

  6. candlestickkid says:
    September 22, 2021 at 8:33 pm
    Stupid. Just call the award quarterback of the year, no other position is even considered anymore.
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    So true, and I can’t argue it either as the QB position is the most difficult one in football. So the best QB should win MVP too, with some caveats like ‘did your team make the playoffs, win a division, etc…type stuff thrown in as potential tie-breaker type stuff.

    I’ll be curious to see what they do in MLB this year with Ohtani. IMO, he should win MVP in a landslide given his production at the plate, and much more than a average pitching stats. MLB doesn’t seem to care as much about ‘did your team make the playoffs’ either when it comes to MVP choices.

  7. Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes (???????): That signature loss to the Ravens vaults Mahomes right out of the conversation? I don’t think so !

  8. i said it last week, and ill say it again this week…All QB’s and every one of them trails Teddy Bridgewater in QBR

  9. candlestickkid says:
    September 22, 2021 at 8:33 pm

    Stupid. Just call the award quarterback of the year, no other position is even considered anymore.

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    I disagree. Most Valuable Player; valuable being the key word. If your quarterback goes down, will your team continue to win games? If Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, Lamar, Kyler, Stafford, Wilson, etc is not in the lineup, can you still win football games? The answer is most likely no. If the answer is yes, then that questions the value of that specific player.

    Teams lose running backs and receivers all the time. They still manage to win football games. Right now, the only team that could potentially lose the ability to win games if their running back went down is Tennessee. Henry is the heart and sole of that offense. Thus, he is their most valuable player. Quarterback is by far the most valuable position on the field. Offensive player of the year is a different story.

  10. VisionTim says:
    September 23, 2021 at 8:40 am
    I mean it is a QB contest but sometimes the actual MVP might be a kicker.
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    I think a kicker named Mark Moseley won MVP for the WFT. If he did he must have had one helluva year and the QB play must have stunk that year

  11. Daddy Batz says:
    I disagree. Most Valuable Player; valuable being the key word. If your quarterback goes down, will your team continue to win games? If Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, Lamar, Kyler, Stafford, Wilson, etc is not in the lineup, can you still win football games? The answer is most likely no. If the answer is yes, then that questions the value of that specific player.

    Teams lose running backs and receivers all the time. They still manage to win football games. Right now, the only team that could potentially lose the ability to win games if their running back went down is Tennessee. Henry is the heart and sole of that offense. Thus, he is their most valuable player. Quarterback is by far the most valuable position on the field. Offensive player of the year is a different story.

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    Based on your theory the entire Chiefs O Line should have been in the running for MVP last year then.

    Very rarely does the award go to a non QB. How many QBs have come through this league that are great when surrounded with weapons, but average without? Shouldn’t those guys that QB throws and hands the ball to be in consideration for elevating the play of the QB? Isn’t that what the spirit of Most Valuable Player is? The guy that makes his team better, and does it at a level that makes his team a contender? Based on your theory, if a receiver has 150 catches, 25 TDs, and 2000 YDs it’s only because he has a great QB throwing him the ball even though his stat line is better than any HOF receiver has ever put together.

  12. VisionTim says:
    September 23, 2021 at 8:40 am
    I mean it is a QB contest but sometimes the actual MVP might be a kicker.
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    The actual MVP is never a kicker. A great kicker is only a little different than a good kicker, a great quarterback is probably 4 wins better than a good quaterback. It’s the “Most Valuable Player” award, not the “Best Player” award, and the most important player on every team, except the Ray Lewis Ravens Super Bowl team, is the quarterback.

  13. I love that Patrick Mahomes, whom the bookies consider one of the favorites in the MVP race, is mentioned as an afterthought… alongside Teddy Bridgewater who is never, ever going to win MVP.

  14. jacktatumroamingthemiddle says:
    September 23, 2021 at 10:42 am

    Based on your theory the entire Chiefs O Line should have been in the running for MVP last year then.

    Very rarely does the award go to a non QB. How many QBs have come through this league that are great when surrounded with weapons, but average without? Shouldn’t those guys that QB throws and hands the ball to be in consideration for elevating the play of the QB? Isn’t that what the spirit of Most Valuable Player is? The guy that makes his team better, and does it at a level that makes his team a contender? Based on your theory, if a receiver has 150 catches, 25 TDs, and 2000 YDs it’s only because he has a great QB throwing him the ball even though his stat line is better than any HOF receiver has ever put together.

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    I get your point, and kind of agree. I like to look at players like Michael Thomas on this one. He was amazing, but as soon as he went out, did the Saints fall off? Not really. So yes, he is great, but was he making the QB better, or was the QB making him better? Each case is different, but a lot kind of get stuck in the grey area of both players being great. Would Murray be as good without Hopkins? I think that would be a very intriguing debate. Did Roethlisberger fall off without AB? Is Brady still winning because of Gronk, AB, Godwin, and Evans? Megatron is one that I feel made Stafford look better and was more valuable. Julio made Ryan better, and the results are pretty clear. So, yes, receivers can certainly be more valuable than their hurlers, but typically the person who touches the ball every play is going to be more valuable than the one who MIGHT catch it.

    One way I look at it is this; backs and receivers rotate out based on the play call. It’s very rare that a QB does.

  15. Beyond any MVP discussion… Let’s just enjoy the cartoon fast Kyler show and appreciate his NFL record achievements. The Cardinals may or may not go deep into the playoffs, but every weekend we will watch amazing Highlights of Murray’s magic. He’s exciting, he’s fun, and our younger generation (hence; your kids) Love him. Isn’t that what really matters?

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