NFL contends it released no Jon Gruden emails

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Since Friday, it’s been presumed by many that the NFL specifically and deliberately released the emails sent by former Raiders coach Jon Gruden to former Washington executive Bruce Allen. The league had not pushed back on that theory until today.

In response to an email regarding a separate issue relating to the Washington emails, NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told PFT that the NFL has released none of the Gruden emails to the media.

If that’s true, the NFL should be very alarmed. If that’s true, someone else with access to those emails (and not many people have access to those emails) leaked them without authorization and in direct violation of league policy. Indeed, and as the NFL informed USA Today on Tuesday, the NFL won’t be disclosing any emails due to the confidentiality of the broader process.

So if it’s all confidential and if someone violated that confidentiality by leaking just enough Gruden emails to prompt Gruden to resign, the NFL should be concerned. The NFL should be angry. The NFL should be investigating.

Replying to McCarthy’s email, PFT asked whether such an investigation has commenced. More than two hours later, McCarthy has not responded.

If the NFL didn’t leak the information from the highest levels of the organization, the failure of the highest levels of the organization to do or say something about it becomes, at some point, tacit approval of the leak.

Here’s the reality. Whoever leaked the Gruden emails surely had (and quite possibly still has) access to the other emails from the Washington Football Team investigation. If nothing will be done by the league to determine the leak and plug it, that same person has the ability to leak more emails, whether as to Gruden or Allen or others.

So either the league did it as to Gruden, or some shadowy and unknown force in the league office did it. Whoever did it has considerable power. If the league can’t or won’t plug the leak, the only fair conclusion is that the person has as much power as the Commissioner himself.

90 responses to “NFL contends it released no Jon Gruden emails

  1. Well if it wasn’t the NFL, it was an employee at the NFL or an employee of the Redskins through the NFL. Either way, not a good look.

  2. The NFL bizarrely stated during Deflategate, that their communications with the public dont have tp be true. Draw whatever conclusion you want. LOL

  3. Goodell will investigate these leaks with the same exact veracity as he did regarding PSI in football data across all league games following the Deflategate sham.

    I’m guessing we’ll all wait the same amount of time to hear the results.

  4. Everyone already knows the NFL is incompetent, so it’s no stretch to think that access to those emails is as secure as the league is trying to make it out to be.

  5. Not condoning what Gruden did,but from his perspective that confidential material was leaked maybe he should file a lawsuit against the NFL…he would have approximately 65 million reasons to do so and has the money to do it.

  6. Goodell LIES

    Been caught numerous times framing the Pats. Let’s see where he takes this.

  7. The investigation materials passed through probably hundreds of hands during administration alone. Yeah it’s a leak, but good luck finding it and/or proving it’s the work of some nefarious kingpin.

  8. I wonder where the replies to Gruden’s emails were not leaked. Surely there was a response to the vast majority. Do ya think that someone was out to get Gruden?

  9. Everyone should be pressuring the NFL to release the emails…I mean everyone. Constant and relentless pressure.

  10. howboutthemcowboys2020 says:
    October 12, 2021 at 7:54 pm
    The NFL bizarrely stated during Deflategate, that their communications with the public dont have tp be true. Draw whatever conclusion you want. LOL

    23 1 Rate This

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    They’ve also tesitifed in court that they could lie and frame and that the truth didn’t matter.

  11. And I thought the movie “TWISTER” was all spin. The NFL may not have given those emails to the NYT but someone they DID DID. How else? Gruden is going to want his. Pass the popcorn and the raincoats. This is the NFL version a Gallagher.

  12. Who’s the judge that issued the subpoena for Bruce Allen’s computer, and handed it over to Dan Snyder’s attorney? That judge should be issuing some arrest warrants that will carry lengthy prison time for these leaks. Either that or the judge needs to be recalled. Please begin the recall process if arrest warrants aren’t being delivered as we speak.

  13. Bull S…

    This was calculated, not certain as to the motive but it will become clear in the weeks to come.

    NFL is getting to big for itself.
    Implosion imminent.

  14. I want to know when we are going to start removing players from the league. In this same manner …. Immediately.

    How many repeat offenders do they currently have as players? Ohhh wait they were given third, fourth, and fifth chances for the same offenses? How could this be?

  15. Goodell either did it or let it happen. The thing about incompetence is that it never improves. He should have been gone DECADES ago.

  16. Pats fans can’t deal with one reality: Like the Gruden emails, the unprecedented cheating scandals never go away.

  17. Then they are lying liars who lie. Then again, this is the same NFL that fabricated texts in Deflategate and hid the Ray Rice tapes while denying they had access to them.

  18. We all know the one man who has more power than good ol’ Roger. And Jerruh ain’t talkin’.

  19. Well the NFL will investigate this with Goodell making the final judgement. So we can trust the process.

  20. It may not have been anyone in the league office who leaked it. It could have been someone who works for WFT, or for the law firm that investigated WFT, or for a third party data collection vendor whose job it was to pull the 650,000 WFT emails and send them to the investigators.

  21. From my experience in large institutions, the NFL could be telling the truth. They have no idea who leaked the emails, and they are privately freaking out wondering if that person will drop the hammer. The “leaker” could just be a cog in the machine who was outraged at Gruden’s racism or just doesn’t like him, so s/he released more emails to show the powers that be what’s up. The NFL has known of that email at least since the WFT investigation was finalized. If the NFL really wanted Gruden to resign, they would have approached him and Davis in the offseason and told them the score so that the situation could have been put to bed under “health reasons” or “spending more time with the family.” The way that this crisis unfolded is indicative of a lone wolf, and the entire NFL power structure is now sweating. Enjoy.

  22. The NFL has a very low regard for its fans (and the truth). They know Americans are addicted to watching the game. Unless that changes, nothing is going to change

  23. Here’s the reality folks.

    Depending on the backup and deletion procedures there is a copy of every one of those emails on Gruden’s computer, Allen’s, the WFT servers, the vendor’s server (if they use one), EVERY INTERNET NODE IT TOUCHED and all the backup tapes for each and everyone!

    I spend my entire career managing information for major companies and in the end also doing eDiscovery.

    If you are STUPID enough to put something incendiary in electronic format and send over the internet it is out there for someone to find. And don’t by the BS that “oh our system deletes everything immediately” cause their system isn’t the only one your stuff touches.

    So next time you write and want to send anything about your boss, partner, whatever think very VERY carefully.

  24. Who cares how they were released? What difference does it make? You can tell the true character of a person when they’re not being watched.

    Gruden was not being watched when he shared these snippets of his core personality.

  25. Release everyone’s emails,get them all out there. The precedence has been set by the NFL leadership that leaked them. Going back at least ten years everyone’s emails are fair game,everyone’s!

  26. That last line says it all. I really don’t know how RG is still employed. He’s just sooo shady. His tenure has been riddled with scandals and inconsistency, the rule changes have been ridiculous, and transparency is completely lacking. He needs to go.

  27. Just like the decision to destroy the NE spygate tapes which shielded the extent of the patriot’s cheating…

  28. A Supreme Court Judge has already ruled that the NFL can do anything they want because it’s a show business. Legally.

  29. What did Bruce Allen say in his emails? If he and Gruden were exchanging “locker room talk” their HAS to be some dirt on him too.

  30. FINALLY. Someone acknowledges the elephant in the room.
    Freaking amazing to me that it took two weeks of blathering about this for someone to ask “Hmmmm….Who released an email that embarrasses Jon Gruden and Why? And does this violate any laws or confidentiality regarding the WFT audit?

  31. charliecharger says:
    October 12, 2021 at 8:18 pm
    Who’s the judge that issued the subpoena for Bruce Allen’s computer, and handed it over to Dan Snyder’s attorney? That judge should be issuing some arrest warrants that will carry lengthy prison time for these leaks. Either that or the judge needs to be recalled. Please begin the recall process if arrest warrants aren’t being delivered as we speak.
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    No judge or court was ever involved in this process.

  32. I have no love for Gruden, but something does feel very very rotten about this entire situation. He has every right to sue, and he should. Someone not named Roger Goodell needs to investigate this.

  33. NFL executives are the same as the DC swamp.
    If your not a favorite in the “club” they will get you, just slimes.

  34. charliecharger says:
    October 12, 2021 at 8:18 pm
    Who’s the judge that issued the subpoena for Bruce Allen’s computer, and handed it over to Dan Snyder’s attorney? That judge should be issuing some arrest warrants that will carry lengthy prison time for these leaks. Either that or the judge needs to be recalled. Please begin the recall process if arrest warrants aren’t being delivered as we speak.

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    What judge? What computer? Arrest warrants? Lol. These were emails sent on his corporate email account and handed over to the league during an internal investigation. The WFT always had the emails and always had the right to give them to the league office.

    Remember, your employer always has the right to view your company email. This should be a lesson for everyone.

  35. Well…a backup or two might have been misplaced…

    The stench of this whole thing is unbelievable…this, coupled with the St. Louis debacle, might be the straw that broke the camel’s back so to speak!

  36. Could be a hacker or someone in the chain of custody like one of the lawyers investigating, their staff, computer specialist or staff, who is seeking ransom from the NFL. They took Gruden out because it was easy, and because it shows they aren’t bluffing?

  37. The NFL gave them to somebody to release. De Smith is their stooge. Of course they wanted him to be a sympathetic figure. I’d like to see all the emails, all the texts from all the players, coaches and ownership over the last 10 years.

  38. Easy. If we hear nothing else about those Emails, it was the NFL. If in the near future we see stuff about Snyder then it was someone else.

  39. Remember how the NFL front office leaked like a sieve during the Deflategate investigation? No one should be surprised by their (alleged but denied) targeted release of information.

    Remember how a ton of people made it seem shady that Brady wouldn’t hand his cell phone over to the NFL? This is why he would never do that and was right not to.

    The NFL isn’t very good at policing itself or recognizing glaring conflicts of interest, but then what they want isn’t necessarily “transparency”. They keep it in house so that they can try to control it and spin it, whatever “it” is.

  40. This situation is simply a monumental cover up of the status quo within the NFL. The “Shield” has always fought to keep the owners’ deck sheet unavailable to the public, and even jettisoned their tax free status a few years back to maintain that position.
    Based on the easy availability of Chuckie’s emails, there can be no doubt that there are a TON of similar email strings just waiting to be “leaked” by any organization and/or individual that might gain some traction from them. The real problem is that the NFL has been allowed for years to cover up any ethical missteps on their part…and to exacerbate the foibles of anyone they felt wasn’t “playing ball” within their rules.

  41. Here is a different theory for Mike:

    Someone in the league office or has access to the emails (the lawyer’s team) want greater accountability across the board. They decided to leak these e-mails to the media as a warning shot to the NFL (there might more to the Gruden/Allen relationship we don’t know including the rumor that Gruden got some of the cheerleader photos).

    It just seems “weird” the NFL would take out Gruden mid-season effecting a franchise that is trying to get established in Vegas who has money issues. Did someone fear Gruden’s Raiders were going to make a Superbowl run? The reason why makes sense, but the timing seems very off.

  42. People keep talking about how Gruden should sue. On what grounds? He has no expectation of privacy with communication sent to others and housed in their servers. I think it is a shame that he is being run out, but he does not have a leg to stand on.

  43. So emails that are insulting to the commissioner and would ruin the career of the person that said them are the only thing that got leaked. Not at all suspicious lol.

  44. Nothing to see here at all… LOL… I have no sympathy for Gruden, but it is pretty funny (not ha ha funny) that in an investigation targeting the WFT franchise, the emails that get leaked were from someone who was an ESPN employee at the time… Nothing to see here at all…

  45. Why can’t I just have a winning football team that isn’t dysfunctional all the time?!!!

  46. People keep talking about how Gruden should sue. On what grounds? He has no expectation of privacy with communication sent to others and housed in their servers. I think it is a shame that he is being run out, but he does not have a leg to stand on.
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    Gruden will never coach again, and most likely will never work around football again. (that is a fair consequence for all of this..)

    What right, does the NFL, a newspaper, or someone with a vendetta, have to destroy a mans career?

    The NFL could have, and should have, forced his resignation. That could have been done without destroying Grudens reputation. No other entity had that right.

    Gruden should go after anyone who played a role in this.

  47. There should be a warning system that alerts everyone before they hit send on an email that “the contents in this email are not private and could be made public at any time”

  48. Serious question that the lawyer might be able to answer but it gets buried down here in the comments, but would Gruden have an action for “tortious interference in a business relationship” with a “john doe” in the league office? This may be the legal lever that pries open the vault of those emails…

  49. Tortious Interference usually means inducing someone in a contractual relationship to break their contract. That wouldn’t apply here.

    Gruden may have a claim based on the privacy assurances the league no doubt made to WFT when obtaining their trove of emails. But it’s hard to sue based on 3rd party promises.

  50. Given their stellar record of always telling the truth, I totally take the NFL at their word here.

  51. I have a friend who went through an nasty divorce. Something was written in the divorce filing (which was untrue) that should have been confidential. A person who worked in the courthouse knew my friend and had access to the brief. She told a couple of people what was in it thinking they would keep the secret. Needless to say, they didn’t. By the end of the month he was the subject of gossip around the entire city.

    It is “possible” that someone outside of the NFL but with access to the emails leaked this. Or a party in the league office could have done unbekownst to others.

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