Plenty of people are nervous about the Bruce Allen emails

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Many have said in the aftermath of Jon Gruden’s resignation that folks around the NFL are scrubbing their emails today. For some around the league, no amount of scrubbing will make a difference.

For those people, the damage is already done. For those people, the emails they sent to or received from former Washington executive Bruce Allen have become part of the 650,000 trove of documents that have been, but for a handful of Gruden emails, buried under a hundred yards of reinforced concrete.

The people who know Bruce Allen and who communicated with him during his time in Washington are nervous about what’s in there. About who else sent or received emails with racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or misogynistic content. About whether they will be exposed, the same way Gruden was.

The right and fair outcome continues to be simple — release all of the Allen emails. Hell, release all 650,000 emails for full scrutiny. Selectively leaking (and the NFL definitely leaked selectively) the Gruden emails and then treating the rest of the emails like radioactive waste isn’t nearly good enough. Especially since, without current transparency, the NFL can simply dip into the cache of documents whenever it may choose in order to take action against someone who, for whatever reason, has landed on the NFL’s list of enemies or targets.

Look at what they did to Gruden. Leak one document, send “other materials” to the Raiders, and wait. Knowing what else was out there, Gruden foolishly (or stubbornly) didn’t quit. Knowing what else was out there, owner Mark Davis foolishly (or stubbornly) didn’t fire Gruden. So then the league leaked other documents, with the clear impression being that, if Gruden isn’t gone, still others will be leaked.

Others can find themselves in a similar predicament. Others may be approached about emails that haven’t yet been leaked, but with a request/suggestion that they quietly resign or retire or whatever now, or the emails will surface.

These emails become a powerful weapon, made even more powerful if they land in the wrong hands. The selective leaking of the emails proves that they’re already in the wrong hands. The only right thing to do, then, is to shine the light now. That brings out the truth, and it prevents the league from using the threat of disclosing the truth to manipulate others into doing whatever the league may want.

I know that’s a strong allegation. But, based on Gruden’s resignation and the circumstances surrounding it, it’s fair to conclude that the league already has done it once. If the emails aren’t released, nothing stops the league from doing it again.

82 responses to “Plenty of people are nervous about the Bruce Allen emails

  1. Why would the NFL release all the emails, when they can use them selectively for “leverage”?

  2. Yes, and if anyone else says anything naughty, they should be done away with.

    Meanwhile, Tampa Bay continues to employ Richard Sherman (domestic abuse) and Antonio Brown (sexual assault) and God-knows-whoever else on a number of NFL rosters.

    But please, by all means, cancel people who say mean things. That’s the real problem we all face, a bunch of bad, meanie-headed words.

  3. The NFL would release them if the materials could only implicate coaches and players. But what if executives, general managers and owners are involved? No way they’re going to release everything if it goes that high.

  4. This is why i started skipping any pre, half or post game stuff. I just want to watch football. The nfl needs to be very careful about letting the public feel it’s politicized or a tv show. Won’t go well.

  5. I guarantee you there are emails in there from other owners… The league is not going to release those. The league will only do what is best for the league and since the league is made up of 32 owners… you wont see all 650,000 documents. Honestly nothing should be released and everything should be handled internally or through the courts

  6. I’m not excusing Gruden, but in my opinion Davis sought to get Gruden out of the coaching spot without his treasure chest of guaranteed money. My bet is that his contract had clauses in it related to conduct past and present detrimental to the raiders and the league.

  7. Providing documents that are under the legal ownership of privileged and confidential or attorney client privilege to those NOT UNDER the privilege is illegal. The person leaking these emails needs to be identified and prosecuted. What he/she is doing is illegal under United States Law. Why isn’t this even a topic of conversation?

  8. I’m wondering who it is that Gruden really pissed off in the league office and what he said about them? If I was Gruden I’d be going through every email I had from the league looking for dirt to release to the media. I believe in a scorched earth policy that is not for everyone.

  9. Washington probably served up Chucky to take the news shift away from drug abuse investigation, and other things.

  10. Chappelle said it best in his last special. You can be racist, or kill a guy and your career doesn’t suffer. Demaurice Smith comments- apology and carry on.

    Venture into alphabet land and your’re going to step on a landmine.

  11. They’ll never release all of it. Too many big time coaches, execs, and owners would be implicated.

  12. The NFL will hold these emails as an implied threat to use as coercion to get what they want. That’s what any syndicate does when they have damning information on people. Do it our way, or face the consequences.

  13. Goodell and the NFL brass have turned into a mafia. There’s no other way to describe it. Blackmail, coercion, etc. SMH.

  14. I was raised to own my actions. Personal accountability.

    Why does anyone have a problem with this?

  15. Simple. Don’t cross the money men like Gruden did, and you’ll be fine. Nobody is going to make the owners do anything unless they feel like it, so the rest of those emails will be used as leverage against anyone else who was emailing him and gets out of line.

  16. kwaii spongebob says:
    October 12, 2021 at 2:13 pm

    I’m wondering who it is that Gruden really pissed off in the league office and what he said about them? If I was Gruden I’d be going through every email I had from the league looking for dirt to release to the media. I believe in a scorched earth policy that is not for everyone.

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    “Roger Goodell is a F****tt and anti-football p***y”

    Pretty sure the stench of all this is emanating from the commissioner’s office.

  17. All the powerless little people that take joy in seeing successful people taken down are wanting more.

  18. Got to give Florio credit he was calling for transparency in the WFT investigation even before this mess involving the Gruden emails. Transparency is required now to prevent further extortion by the league.

  19. Just kick the ball, pass the ball and run the ball.
    What a soap-opera joke of a league.

  20. Whoever leaked this stuff should go to jail. Gruden showed himself to be a knucklehead bigot, but the leaker is a criminal.

  21. isn’t this called blackmail? the league isn’t going to release anything unless it wants to. remember those Patriots video tapes Goodell had destroyed?

  22. i’m not condoning all the things he said, which were obviously wrong, but sifting through people’s private conversations from ten years ago and then cherry-picking a few to hound them out isn’t right either.
    If you’re dumb enough to say something on a computer or the internet then that’s it… you’ve got the sword of damocles hanging over your head for your entire life.

  23. Because there is a big difference between taking out a coach, and letting different owners be exposed.

    The NFL will do whatever it can to protect its owners.

    A coach? Just a pawn to be sacrificed.

  24. So fruden lost his job because of former emails.
    Is the nfl going to scourer over former emails of their choice for the halftime show of performers as you can assume that there would be disparaging language there as well ????

  25. “I don’t condone what Gruden said buuuutttt….” TRANSLATION = “I completely condone what Gruden said.”

  26. If Robert Kraft is “visiting” seedy strip mall “day cpas” what else has he been doing? What kind of emails must Bob McNair have sent over the years knowing his racist tendencies? Let’s go back 10 years into the “sent” files of all 32 league owners private emails

  27. buckeye2782 says:
    October 12, 2021 at 2:38 pm
    isn’t this called blackmail? the league isn’t going to release anything unless it wants to. remember those Patriots video tapes Goodell had destroyed?

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    Yes, because the ones they did destroy showed other teams’ camera guys in Foxborough on the opposite sidelines filming NE’s sidelines, because that’s what teams did prior to 2006.

    You’re welcome.

    Goodell and the media that works for him won’t tell you the truth, but I will.

  28. And yet Tyreek hill got extended and he’s an animal. A sub human. The NFL is off the rails.

  29. I agree that cancel culture is getting really ridiculous, but I’m glad Gruden is gone. He was making some really bone-headed play calls.

  30. I don’t understand – why would the NFL target Gruden? Did they just pick someone to make into an example? And are the emails actually public for people to read or are they hidden somewhere too?

    The narrative doesn’t make sense. If they were targeting him, why not target the other people? Or was it because of things Gruden said about the power brokers in the league?

  31. will this happen IF they find emails that are not right by current players? Will they be suspended and if so, how long? This can’t be only if white people do it.

  32. Can’t imagine why coaches don’t enjoy having the Hard Knocks cameras and mikes picking up everything you say.

  33. In the Tennessee Williams play, A Streetcar Named Desire, Blanche Dubois states that “the only unforgivable sin is intentional cruelty”. Brilliant!

    Was Gruden intentionally cruel? I’ll let each of you decide for yourselves.

  34. The league already has players and coaches that have legal issues and shady pasts that are much worse than SAYING and writing awful things. Let’s not act like laws are being broken or the end of civilization is in the balance. I come to the NFL for entertainment, nothing more and nothing less.

  35. Urban Meyer is a happy man today. He’s old news i guess, bad words are a firable offense.

  36. I don’t think Mark Davis is that smart or devious nor is he tight enough with Goodell to have pulled this off but this scandal couldn’t have turned out much better for the Raiders, could it? Freed from Gruden’s fully guaranteed contract just 4 years into the 10-year deal thus saving Davis $60 million AND the scandal stems from events before he was hired so the Raiders have to do very little (if any) damage control. That’s a pretty sweet deal both financially and competitively given how the team was spinning their wheels with Gruden in the driver’s seat.

  37. The NFL was looking into the owner of WFT…So much for legal scope…if they find something illegal sure, but moral cleaning has got to be illegal.

  38. And yet Tyreek hill got extended and he’s an animal. A sub human. The NFL is off the rails.

    Not true. Check the facts. This is why he is still playing.

  39. Why would Mark Davis fire Gruden when he know other emails were out there and Gruden would be forced to resign and then not need to be paid for 6 more years.

  40. The NFL now has leverage at multiple levels on multiple teams. That’s how blackmail works. Do what we tell you or you get Grudened!

  41. skoldaddy2020 says:
    October 12, 2021 at 2:02 pm

    Yes, and if anyone else says anything naughty, they should be done away with.

    Meanwhile, Tampa Bay continues to employ Richard Sherman (domestic abuse) and Antonio Brown (sexual assault) and God-knows-whoever else on a number of NFL rosters.

    But please, by all means, cancel people who say mean things. That’s the real problem we all face, a bunch of bad, meanie-headed words.
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    Those crimes you mentioned are settled in court and don’t forget about Big Ben and rape. This has been around forever and these players still play, so it’s not even worth mentioning. What is happening to Gruden is where society is right now. Deal with it or get bounced.

  42. Release every email that was ever sent by anyone. Let’s do that. Let’s release all phone conversations that the NSA have captured on all American citizens.

  43. For those of you crying invasion of privacy, these guys (including some corporate execs) circulated topless photos of WFT cheerleaders. The privacy of those women was invaded in these emails. And I expect the NFL owners to shut this down asap. They’ll everything they can to silence the leaker(s).

  44. Pretty skeevy.
    The next time the NFL talks about ‘protect the shield’ fans should do a collective barf.

  45. “ I know that’s a strong allegation.” Sure it is. But its also what everyone has seen and knows they have seen. However strong your allegation might be you are still pretty safe with it. Unless of course you have sent an email, in which case you are screwed.

  46. Total lack of confidentially from the NFL. Allen and Gruden should sue, they do not own those emails.

    It’s funny how they think they can selectively release emails to oust a coach. Coaches beware, they would never do this to a player as the union has their back.

  47. “Thank god email didn’t exist until 1994” – every NFL coach and executive who ended their career before 1994.

  48. –I turn on the TV exactly at kickoff
    –I mute the sound immediately
    –I switch channels for 30 seconds immediately after someone crosses the goal line, or the person who makes the interception is tackled
    –I take a pee, walk the dog, and get something to eat at halftime
    –I turn off the game at the final gun
    –I check this site once a day for any actual ‘news’
    That’s the only way to enjoy this league these days…

  49. A number of people have asked, why go after Gruden??? Who do you think saw the final report on the investigation of the WFT??? So in reviewing the report Goodell saw what Gruden said about him and bam there you go, the commish was out for revenge.

    Now just think, you’re in that position and you come across something as Gruden said about Goodell but it was about you, what do you think you would do???

  50. Remember when the league pressured Desean Watson to quit after his anti-semetic rant…

    Oh yeah, neither do I….

  51. “owner Mark Davis foolishly (or stubbornly) didn’t fire Gruden”

    Davis couldn’t afford to fire Gruden. Guy’s completely in debt.

  52. “And yet Tyreek hill got extended and he’s an animal. A sub human. “…………Yeah you would dehumanize another human. We know who and what you are.

  53. ladyjet says:
    October 12, 2021 at 5:14 pm
    How about those Belichick/Brady/Kraft emails with the deflator. We’d love to see those!
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    Haha….that’s funny.

    Belichick doesn’t email. He’s too smart for that.

  54. I find this position absurd. You want the NFL to release 650,000 private communications that people sent and received with a reasonable expectation of privacy? On the grounds that the NFL has already selectively released some of these emails? Wow.

    First (as parents explain to children) two wrongs don’t make a right. Also, you well know that if all these emails are released, in the current context, a great many people will face enormous repercussions for things they said, and mistakes they made, quite a long time ago. Can’t we just give this a rest? Nobody — not you or anyone else — should be screwing around with peoples livelihoods.

  55. Agreed yes it was stupid yes he should have known better & he paid for it yet will never have to work again which he can’t. But as someone else said the NFL is turning into the Mafia with RG as the Don. This is beyond sleazy and makes me feel dirty. How far has the NFL fallen when they drive a coach out when what he wrote when he wasn’t even employed by the NFL. Because he dared to insult Roger? LOL.

  56. How many politicians in this country have presumably been compromised by emails they don’t want out. It’s good that Google and Facebook don’t have access to their emails and DMs. Ohh wait. ..

  57. I wonder how the judge feels that granted access to this information to Dan Snyder’s attorneys. I don’t think this is what he/she had in mind. I’m be putting some people in prison if I were that judge. This is definitely going to lead to legislation. This just shouldn’t be happening in a country like the USA.

  58. I wonder how much more dirt they had to get him to resign so quickly. As bad as those messages are once out there the damage is done and given he forfeits like $60 million by resigning lots of guys would have hung in there and forced the Raiders to fire him in order to have some claim to that money in court. To step down that quickly suggests he was either terrified of the next round of leaks or maybe he and Davis came to some sort of agreement to get him out of there right now.

  59. Jon Gruden surrendered way too quick and way too easily. I believe there is a much bigger story that is festering underneath the thin skin of the NFL shield.
    Consider the deviant, nefarious, and corrupt entities that run and control Vegas area.
    I believe that it is against every fiber of being in Gruden’s soul to cut and run this fast without a fight. For him to just fall on this sword shows there is something big going on.

  60. “It isn’t cancel culture. It’s consequence culture.”

    Only for certain people.

    Deshaun Watson is accused of sexual assault by over 20 women. Ben Roethlisberger was accused by 2 and was suspended.

    Antonio Brown reportedly called his GM “cracker.” The media didn’t make a big deal out of it and nothing happened to him.

    Tyreek Hill allegedly broke his kid’s arm. We know how he talks to women who are involved with him. Nothing happened to him.

    The hypocrisy is out of control. Not everyone is going to ignore it forever.

  61. The NFL will definitely selectively release the emails from those who don’t tow the NFL line. They are so crooked.

  62. skoldaddy2020 says:
    October 12, 2021 at 2:02 pm
    Yes, and if anyone else says anything naughty, they should be done away with.

    Meanwhile, Tampa Bay continues to employ Richard Sherman (domestic abuse) and Antonio Brown (sexual assault) and God-knows-whoever else on a number of NFL rosters.

    But please, by all means, cancel people who say mean things. That’s the real problem we all face, a bunch of bad, meanie-headed words.

    Antonio Brown has never been charged with sexual assault. A friend of more than 10 years who was his sometime girlfriend and trainer, and almost became business partners, filed a civil suit against him a couple of years after the alleged assault. She never reported the alleged assault to the police. The woman & Brown have since settled the case with a nice Kumbaya statement jointly issued by the parties’ lawyers.

    The charges against Richard Sherman are pending. has been charged

  63. “It isn’t cancel culture. It’s consequence culture.”

    Only for certain people.

    Deshaun Watson is accused of sexual assault by over 20 women. Ben Roethlisberger was accused by 2 and was suspended.

    Antonio Brown reportedly called his GM “cracker.” The media didn’t make a big deal out of it and nothing happened to him.

    Tyreek Hill allegedly broke his kid’s arm. We know how he talks to women who are involved with him. Nothing happened to him.

    The hypocrisy is out of control. Not everyone is going to ignore it forever.

    There have been consequences.

    Antonio Brown was out of football for more than a year and he is making millions less than his football abilities would otherwise command.

    Watson is on the bench, with a criminal investigation & a number of civil law suits hanging over his head. It is unclear what his future will hold.

    Ben was suspended for 4 or 5 games; not sure how much he paid in civil law suits.

    Also, those in positions of authority like coaches should be held to a stricter standard than players.

  64. What is the back story on this? Why was Gruden, who at the time was an announcer for ESPN emailing with Allen, who was a Washington team executive exchanging emails about the NLFPA?

    Just friends from their days at Tampa Bay?

    The Allen sons sure have potty mouths. Bruce Allen’s brother, George Allen, lost his race for re-election for Senator of Virginia when he called a young man (who was dark complected) who was filming one of his campaign events “macaca” (a term that means monkey).

  65. Why was it foolish or stubborn for Mark Davis not to fire him?

    If Davis fires him, doesn’t he open himself up to a potential future lawsuit? He would have to admit to having fired him for conduct he engaged in prior to ever being employed by the Raiders.

    Didn’t Davis do the smart thing? He let him resign. He has no recourse to the Raiders. Now the Raiders can take their time about how to navigate the rest of his contract. And if there are 2018-2019 emails out there that could incriminate Gruden, then Davis could’ve fired him then.

  66. jjfootball says:
    October 12, 2021 at 7:25 pm
    The only release stuff against the Raiders cuz they’re always trying to damage them

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    Perhaps so, but I smell a power move by Goodell against the owners.
    He is telling them to watch it and don’t mess with him.
    Particularly you Mr. Kraft and you Mr. Jones.

  67. “There have been consequences.

    Antonio Brown was out of football for more than a year and he is making millions less than his football abilities would otherwise command.”

    Nice deflection. Brown was never punished in any way at all for using a racial epithet. This is fact.

    Roethlisberger was suspended when it was known no criminal charges would be filed. Why hasn’t Watson been suspended?

  68. This is another reason Goodell should be fired. The owners obviously know that he will stoop to what ever level he needs to to get what he wants, now they know he will also do it to them if he desires. That is not someone you want to be doing business with because they can not be trusted.

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