Dolphins deal for Deshaun Watson bogged down when Texans raised price

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A week ago, the Texans and Dolphins were closing in on a deal for quarterback Deshaun Watson. Per multiple sources, the Dolphins wanted Watson to settle the 22 civil lawsuits accusing him of sexual misconduct during massage therapy sessions. Per multiple sources, once the Texans caught wind of the growing possibility that the 22 civil lawsuits would be settled, their price for Watson went up.

With no deal ever in place (and the Dolphins would concede that a deal was never reached), the Texans were free to ask for more, if/when they sensed that the Dolphins would be getting Watson with one of the two major branches of his legal portfolio resolved. (The 10 pending criminal complaints will remain in place until a grand jury decides whether to charge Watson.)

The increased demands caused the talks to crater. Now, the primary impediment is the gap between what the Texans want and what the Dolphins will offer. That could change as the deadline arrives, because in the NFL and most other businesses deadlines drive action.

If a trade is done, the expectation is that Watson will get the 22 civil cases settled. If a trade doesn’t happen, it’s expected that the civil cases won’t be resolved, at least not for now.

Either way, the deadline arrives on Tuesday at 4:00 p.m. ET. Obviously, it will happen by then. Or it won’t.

44 responses to “Dolphins deal for Deshaun Watson bogged down when Texans raised price

  1. I don’t see Watson settling because it implies that he’s guilty. It’s going to stay bogged down and this will drag on.

  2. If I’m the fish and don’t want off season competition on the wanted QB thus ending up getting squished, especially if all the legal stuff gets sorted out… might be best to meet the asking price because after all once more players enter the sweepstakes somebody will meet the asking price out of desperation or to prevent someone possibly in their own division from doing so .. time will tell us how it all goes.

  3. I’m trying to understand something in Goodell’s NFL. Gruden is out because he used some racist and highly offensive language– ok, that’s understandable. DeShaun has been named in what, 22 lawsuits? With some more than highly offensive alleged behavior. And yet Goodell has done nothing. But despite literally zero evidence of anything despite spending millions of dollars he suspended Tom Brady for 4 games… and hammered Zeke with 6 games based on allegations… why is the NFL still so tied to promoting DeShaun that it is protecting him? There are plenty of marketable, emerging stars in this league that haven’t been accused of crimes by 22 different people.

  4. What the heck is Houston doing? Just trade the guy and be done with it. They keep this crap up and watch Watson get indicted sometime after the trade deadline and they will then be effectively stuck with him and he will be damaged goods at that point.

  5. I just hope this drags out long enough for Greir and Flores to get fired and a new regime can come in

    I dont want these bums tossing away the future to hold on to their jobs another year

  6. I guess I don’t follow the Dolphins closely enough. Are they a Deshaun away from a deep playoff run- this year or in the future?? If so, I don’t see it. They look like they regressed this year to me.

    Why would they want to do this?

  7. bradygirl12 says:
    October 31, 2021 at 9:27 pm
    I don’t see Watson settling because it implies that he’s guilty. It’s going to stay bogged down and this will drag on.
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    Watson will settle and part of the settlement will be that the women who receive payments
    ( It has to be all of them ) will not talk about it / testify. Charges will be dropped because no one wants to press charges /testify. Will all of the women be on board or will some want Watson prosecuted ? That is the question.

  8. If this is true, then it changes the possibility of a deal considerably. If in fact there is a behind the scenes settlement of a significant portion of the lawsuits, the compensation can get resolved.

  9. Whats the going rate for Grier and Flores?…..THey are the problem…Grier cant draft and Flores has lost the clubhouse. Give Tua some help and we will be alright…Watson is no savior..and having him near south beach wont help…

  10. Hold on to his rights until the offseason. There is no franchise QB this draft, Texans hold all the power. Just pay the guy and take your chances in the offseason near the draft on a trade. Screw Deshaun, dude has been paid and refuses to suit up. He wants to make the GM and coach decisions. GTFOH

  11. Drafting a real franchise QB is rare to say the least. Tua and a long lists of busts are proof of that. They should pull the trigger baggage and all.

  12. I see a lot of comments calling the Texans delusional, how are they delusional?

    Last year, despite a horrible record, Watson was considered one of the best young QB’s in the game. Watson is a true franchise quarterback despite what’s happened off the field. Not only that, the man is only 26 years old.

    Why would the Texans give away one of the best young QB’s in the league for nothing?

    Get your price, force him to show up and play, force him to holdout, or force him to retire.

    At this point, I’d rather get nothing than to see Watson win multiple championships with his new team, get into the HOF, and always be known as the team that gave him away for nothing.

  13. Once again the Texans are not trading Watson until seasons end and they can max out the draft pick value and know the exact order of what the 2022 1st round draft pick will be and teams get a better sense of his legal situation.

  14. If I’m the fish and don’t want off season competition on the wanted QB thus ending up getting squished, especially if all the legal stuff gets sorted out… might be best to meet the asking price because after all once more players enter the sweepstakes somebody will meet the asking price out of desperation or to prevent someone possibly in their own division from doing so .. time will tell us how it all goes.
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    Except Deshaun has a no trade and wants Miami so they do hold the cards

  15. arcross12042004scorp15 says:
    October 31, 2021 at 9:40 pm
    bradygirl12 says:
    October 31, 2021 at 9:27 pm
    I don’t see Watson settling because it implies that he’s guilty. It’s going to stay bogged down and this will drag on.
    ————————————
    Watson will settle and part of the settlement will be that the women who receive payments
    ( It has to be all of them ) will not talk about it / testify. Charges will be dropped because no one wants to press charges /testify. Will all of the women be on board or will some want Watson prosecuted ? That is the question.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The women want nondisclosure agreements in this case but Watson refuses, saying he wants everything to come out.

  16. Watson has said repeatedly he will never play for the Texans again. If they decide to hold onto him anyway – whether out of spite or because they can’t find a trading partner – the will owe him $40 million. Do you think Caserio is that kind of stupid?
    That’s leverage – as in 25% of their salary cap leverage.

  17. I was hoping for the sake of Caserio that he could have moved on from all this as a stepping stone to building a team the fans can be proud of. Dolphins may have just dodged a bullet from a gun they didn’t even shoot.

  18. boozygoose says:
    October 31, 2021 at 9:37 pm
    I guess I don’t follow the Dolphins closely enough. Are they a Deshaun away from a deep playoff run- this year or in the future?? If so, I don’t see it. They look like they regressed this year to me.

    Why would they want to do this?
    ——————

    Because the owner wants him. The owner is also the reason why the Dolphins have stunk for so long.

  19. stexan1 says:
    October 31, 2021 at 10:38 pm
    Watson has said repeatedly he will never play for the Texans again. If they decide to hold onto him anyway – whether out of spite or because they can’t find a trading partner – the will owe him $40 million. Do you think Caserio is that kind of stupid?
    That’s leverage – as in 25% of their salary cap leverage.
    ————

    The Texans only owe Watson $40 million if Watson shows up and plays. If he says he’ll never play for them again and follows through with it, it shouldn’t be a problem, see Barry Sanders.

    If they trade him, they still have to deal with a huge dead cap penalty and if they cut him, it’ll be even worse.

    The Texans are jettisoning veterans and are in a rebuilding state, they can afford to keep Watsons cap number.

  20. Two pathetic teams trying to outsmart each other…:it’s exactly what you see in fantasy football when the two bottom feeding teams trade each others own garbage players thinking their going to magically get BETTER . It’s comical .

  21. alonestartexan says:
    October 31, 2021 at 10:02 pm

    At this point, I’d rather get nothing than to see Watson win multiple championships with his new team, get into the HOF, and always be known as the team that gave him away for nothing.

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    Watson win multiple championships with the Dolphins? A team that has less talent and worse coaching than his Texans teams had? Heh.

  22. Houston, we have a problem. Seriously, with so many accusations hanging over Watson (not to mention his refusal to ever play for the team again), the Texans need to cut bait and take what they can get. I mean, even if he settles the civil cases, there are still potential criminal charges hanging over his head. Had this trade gone through, Miami would have assumed 100% of the risk. Houston’s front office is delusional.

  23. Es El Repollo! says:
    October 31, 2021 at 10:34 pm
    arcross12042004scorp15 says:
    October 31, 2021 at 9:40 pm
    bradygirl12 says:
    October 31, 2021 at 9:27 pm
    I don’t see Watson settling because it implies that he’s guilty. It’s going to stay bogged down and this will drag on.
    ————————————
    Watson will settle and part of the settlement will be that the women who receive payments
    ( It has to be all of them ) will not talk about it / testify. Charges will be dropped because no one wants to press charges /testify. Will all of the women be on board or will some want Watson prosecuted ? That is the question.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The women want nondisclosure agreements in this case but Watson refuses, saying he wants everything to come out.
    ________________

    Rusty Hardin’s claim that Watson wants everything to come out is merely a PR play. As Florio has repeatedly pointed out, this claim is exactly the opposite of what usually happens in these type of cases. In fact, a settlement without a nondisclosure agreement does not benefit Watson at all as it offers no protection from the criminal charges.

  24. You don’t spend three #1 picks on one player for the very reason he’s available…it only takes one injury or one (in this case 22) bad decision and you’re left with a bad team and no ammo to get better for years and years. Think of Andrew Luck. A special QB, worth as much as Watson and with no baggage, and if a team gave the Colts three #1 picks for him they’d have gotten destroyed when he decided he didn’t want to play anymore.

  25. boozygoose says:
    October 31, 2021 at 9:37 pm
    I guess I don’t follow the Dolphins closely enough. Are they a Deshaun away from a deep playoff run- this year or in the future?? If so, I don’t see it. They look like they regressed this year to me.

    Why would they want to do this?
    ————————————————-
    Good question. I’m forced to watch the Dolphins because I live in South Florida. This team isn’t close to anything. Your assessment is correct, they have regressed. They’ve got nothing, and I love it.

  26. do the Dolphins even have a 1st round pick this year? I thought Philly has it, maybe thats another reason this hasnt gotten done yet, so they want picks in the 1st round in 2023, 2024 AND 2025 LOL, id want him to get his affairs straightened out too if I was giving up that much, team will be much better next year “IF” he plays & the pick wont be as good

  27. Tua isn’t the problem in Miami. Grier has been in the organization for 20 years from scouting to GM. His drafts are underwhelming. Flores looked like a keeper his first 2 years but it seems that success has gone to his head. They’re constantly rebuilding the rebuild and flores keeps churning his coaching staff. No matter how much he thinks so, he’s not Belichick.


  28. I just hope this drags out long enough for Greir and Flores to get fired and a new regime can come in

    I dont want these bums tossing away the future to hold on to their jobs another year”

    Unfortunately their jobs are safe for another 1-2 years because Ross always sticks with people 1-2 years too long. He still thinks NFL success is like business success.

  29. Pretty hard to get 23 people to agree to do pretty much the same thing. Would think at least one of the 22 would want more than the rest, would not agree to release/confidentiality, etc. Not sure if buyers would really want the headaches as well of fan base, etc. And as it is obviously a pattern of poor behavior, how do you know the guy is responsible enough to lead your team and stop doing it?

  30. What do they want—3 first round picks? That’s absurd. Maybe if he’s Tom Brady or Aaron Rogers. Even if he WERE Aaron Rogers, how can you ditch three years of draft capital and expect to put a team around him, especially when you’ve got to deal with his contract?

  31. >Watson has said repeatedly he will never play for the Texans again. Do you think Caserio is that kind of stupid?

    ______

    I don’t know if it is just stupidity but maybe just a billionaire who would rather run out the clock on a young QB’s career for spite. $40M is nothing to take a bite of Watson’s prime because he did not want to play for the Texans.

    I’m not saying I agree with it, but when you have enough money, you can make power plays like this.

  32. Watson has said repeatedly he will never play for the Texans again. Do you think Caserio is that kind of stupid?

    I don’t know if it is just stupidity but maybe just a billionaire who would rather run out the clock on a young QB’s career for spite. $40M is nothing to take a bite of Watson’s prime because he did not want to play for the Texans. I’m not saying I agree with it, but when you have enough money, you can make power plays like this.

  33. buffman716 says:
    November 1, 2021 at 9:26 am
    settled means a check was cut, good old check book justice
    _______

    Monetary consideration is how civil cases are settled. How else do you expect the victims to be compensated?

  34. Thank-you Houston for being stubborn Carolina he’s all yours. Now unless the Dolphins Brain (fart) Trust breaks out the “Dave Wanstead’s Guide to Player Personnel Decisions” let it go. Besides the big P.R. headache from different victims group to having Mr. Watson found guilty and the judge refusing grant work release privilege’s to play (just kidding) on gameday. As Tony said to Apollo Creed in Rocky II about wanting to fight Rocky Balboa again to Let it go. Of course just the Dolphins trade the entire 2022 draft to the ’49ers and the One through four in the ’23 draft for Jimmy Garofalo makes as much sense. AGAIN JUST KIDDING!

  35. Watson’s guaranteed 40 million next year. Teams can watch the Texans pay him 2.35 million a week next year as they offer them a single 1st round pick and maybe a 5th as well. Paying a QB 40 million and not letting him play is a power move by the QB, not the moron owner.

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