Bruce Arians hopes NFL will investigate all teams for fake vaccination cards

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If Buccaneers receiver Antonio Brown had simply paid the money he allegedly owed to his former live-in chef, no one would know that Brown had a fake vaccination card, and neither Brown nor Buccaneers safety Mike Edwards would currently be suspended for three games each.

But now we know it happened. And we knew if could have happened, given the clear temptation for players who want to be unvaccinated but who want to be treated like they are vaccinated to procure fake vaccination cards. We also should know that it possibly has happened with other teams.

More specifically, the league should know it. And the league should do something about it.

Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians wants that to happen.

“I just hope that they don’t stop looking,” Arians told reporters on Friday. Asked whether this means that there are other issues throughout the league, Arians had a one-word answer: “Maybe.”

Maybe is absolutely right. The same temptation that existed in Tampa Bay existed in every other NFL city. The fact that the league found three players who misrepresented their status in Tampa Bay means that they should be looking for players elsewhere who did the same thing.

On Thursday, the league told PFT that 80 percent of all vaccinated players received their shots at club facilities. As to the 20 percent of vaccinated players who got their shots elsewhere, the league asked the teams whether the percentage of positive COVID tests among those players was any different than the percentage of positive COVID tests among the players who were vaccinated at club facilities. Per the league, it learned via this exercise that there was no difference.

That’s not the best way to find players who used fake vaccination cards. As one source with one of the teams pointed out to PFT, “Their logic is faulty. They are using the fact that the percentages are the same as proof that fake cards don’t exist. . . . There are plenty of players who haven’t gotten COVID who may have fake cards.”

Also, the sample size is going to be very small. Assuming 100 percent vaccination of the 53-man roster and that 80 percent of those players were vaccinated on site, that’s 10.6 players on average who were vaccinated off site. In Tampa, roughly 20 percent of the players vaccinated off site had fake cards.

That’s enough of a rate of fake cards in Tampa to compel the league to review the cards in every other team, and to mete out three-game suspensions for every player who submitted a fake card.

While this situation may have been enough to scare players with fake vaccination cards into getting vaccinated, it doesn’t change the fact that they used fake vaccination cards, and that they behaved as if they were vaccinated for months. Getting vaccinated now doesn’t make a fake card tendered in July real. If they did, they did. And the only way to figure it out is to perform the same review elsewhere that was performed in Tampa.

It sounds like they won’t. It sounds like they don’t want to. If the situation in Tampa is representative of the trends elsewhere, they’ll eventually find 96 total fake vaccination cards, with 64 of them belonging to players currently on teams.

That possibility seems sufficiently significant to require something more than coming up with a flawed statistical analysis based on positive results that has no relevance to whether fake cards were secured and used.

67 responses to “Bruce Arians hopes NFL will investigate all teams for fake vaccination cards

  1. The cards should have all been verified. It is not that difficult. The card says where the vaccine was given and it would not take very long to do this. If they really only nedto check 20% of the cards, it would be easy for the NFL to do this.

  2. Bitter old man, the nfl didn’t single you out. Don’t get mad because you didn’t vet your players properly and AB made you look like a fool. Then you tried to cover it up by saying there was nothing to discuss.

  3. How is it fair that the NFL checked the validity of all the Bucs players’ vax cards, resulting in 2 players being suspended, but all 31 other teams get off scott free?

    Talk about a competitive advantage for all 31 other teams.

  4. Really?????
    Arians should just worry about his team and the phony vaccination cards – sounds like that will keep him plenty busy…….

  5. All players who were not vaccinated by their teams need to have their proof of shot(s) validated.

  6. Arians is the NFL’s version of Joe Madden because he believes he’s the smartest person in the room. Just ask him and he’ll tell you as much.

  7. The NFL is amazing….out of 1700 players, they found the only 3 players with bogus vaccine cards. Can I get some lotto numbers from you NFL??

  8. I’m still amazed at the’effort to get a fake card these players went through to get a bogus card. Just amazing.’

  9. Shocked that AB hasn’t learned to pay people money they are owed. He would be in a lot less trouble in his life.

  10. It’s just gonna be such a sad day for all the folks here when the Bucs become the eighth franchise to repeat and Brady wins an eighth ring. The tears will be flowing for months.

  11. Those not vaccinated in the NFL facilities should have the vaccine cards verified. What’s the big deal?

  12. Did Aaron Rodgers not put every opponent at risk in previous games? Come on Florio, get off the NFL bus and rip them to pieces for they way they handled the vax cards. Did the Packers find out Brown had a fake card and rat out AB? Now they league is in cahoots with the Packers to make it easier for the Packers to avoid playing he BUCS.

  13. Pretty sure anyone can go find a fake vaccine card with $500 and very little effort.

    What’s amazing to me is the constant witch hunt, especially on this site and many others, for unvaccinated players or people. Then you wonder why people lie about their status.

  14. So is AB on or off the team, for good? Or are you going back on your word by using ‘whataboutism/maybeism’?

  15. RE LEE says:
    December 3, 2021 at 4:59 pm
    Those not vaccinated in the NFL facilities should have the vaccine cards verified. What’s the big deal?
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    If they are not vaccinated, they don’t have a card.

  16. “So is AB on or off the team, for good? Or are you going back on your word by using ‘whataboutism/maybeism’?” Brown is not off the team. All of you can go back to crying now.

  17. Why is he still on the team? His buddy TB wants him? He forged a federal document and lied to his employer. Any other person on the planet would be on the street, nevermind all the other horses*** he has pulled in the past two years. Just remember fellas: it doesn’t matter what kind of person you are, or even what you do, as long as you can catch the foosball you’ll get paid.

  18. ——————

    path41 says:
    December 3, 2021 at 5:11 pm

    Did Aaron Rodgers not put every opponent at risk in previous games? Come on Florio, get off the NFL bus and rip them to pieces for they way they handled the vax cards. Did the Packers find out Brown had a fake card and rat out AB? Now they league is in cahoots with the Packers to make it easier for the Packers to avoid playing he BUCS.
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    What is so dificult for some people to understand? The Packers and the league KNEW Rodgers wasn’t vax’d, he only lied to the press. AB and the others lied to the team and the league – so they are penalized…. not that hard to understand at all..

  19. ktimmmtb says:
    December 3, 2021 at 5:29 pm
    So is AB on or off the team, for good? Or are you going back on your word by using ‘whataboutism/maybeism’?

    ______________________

    nailed it

  20. Geez Bruce, you kinda lost any credibility on this subject. So you got busted, now suddenly you’re all high and mighty? Give me a break. Clean up your own house. You didn’t care about your own guys, why are you worrying about everyone else’s guys? You were trying to gain an ad, and got caught. Now you don’t like it if someone else is getting what you were enjoying. Maybe time to retire.

  21. Lockport Lax says:
    December 3, 2021 at 6:04 pm
    ——————

    path41 says:
    December 3, 2021 at 5:11 pm

    Did Aaron Rodgers not put every opponent at risk in previous games? Come on Florio, get off the NFL bus and rip them to pieces for they way they handled the vax cards. Did the Packers find out Brown had a fake card and rat out AB? Now they league is in cahoots with the Packers to make it easier for the Packers to avoid playing he BUCS.
    ————-

    What is so dificult for some people to understand? The Packers and the league KNEW Rodgers wasn’t vax’d, he only lied to the press. AB and the others lied to the team and the league – so they are penalized…. not that hard to understand at all..

    So if he traveled on the same team charter while unvaccinated, which is against the rules, shouldn’t he get in trouble. If that’s true? Or is it ok because the team and NFL knew he was breaking the rules? Seems like he was doing the same thing AB was minus the fake card. 3 games vs. $10,000 doesn’t add up.

  22. AB lost more money not paying people then if he paid them. Knowing his reputation how do you let a bill get up to $10k will out seeing a little cash? Kind of like the US and our $10 trillion debt that keeps growing. Who’s loaning us money at this point. After the first trillion I have to at least see a sawbuck or something.

  23. Sorry you were all duped. Brady who does not allow his kids to have sugar in their house or bread, did not get a needle everyone screamed against when Trump was in office, who now scream its science.

    And if you think Brady is the only one you are in for another ride. Nobody took the non-safe and in-effective vaccine.

  24. In Tampa, roughly 20 percent of the players vaccinated off site had fake cards.

    *******************************************************************************************

    LOL! if they got vaccinated they wouldn’t have a fake card, the point is they NEVER got vaccinated of site…….

  25. I am amazed that since the onset of COVID the huge upswing in Lawyers and doctors/medical experts that have been lurking in internet comment sections. Who knew?

  26. Bigger question as the judge in Louisiana who struck down the Brandan mandate, natural immunity from having the virus is better than any “vaccine” being offered. #TrustTheScience

  27. If Buccaneers receiver Antonio Brown had simply gone to get his free vaccine like the rest of this teammates, he wouldn’t have had to pay his former live-in chef money, no one would know that Brown had a fake vaccination card because it would be a real one, and neither Brown nor Buccaneers safety Mike Edwards would currently be suspended for three games each.

  28. Shinnbone says:
    December 3, 2021 at 6:41 pm
    In Tampa, roughly 20 percent of the players vaccinated off site had fake cards.

    *******************************************************************************************

    LOL! if they got vaccinated they wouldn’t have a fake card, the point is they NEVER got vaccinated of site…….
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    But they are claiming to be “vaccinated”, so they were counted among “Vaccinated” players.

  29. amaf22 says:
    December 3, 2021 at 6:44 pm
    If Buccaneers receiver Antonio Brown had simply gone to get his free vaccine like the rest of this teammates, he wouldn’t have had to pay his former live-in chef money, no one would know that Brown had a fake vaccination card because it would be a real one, and neither Brown nor Buccaneers safety Mike Edwards would currently be suspended for three games each.
    ———————————————————
    Ahh, the old “sheeple mentality”

  30. Rodgers never followed the rules for unvaccinated players, the league covered for him, and he got to play in multiple games despite being a close contact carrier, such as for the Cardinals game. Aaron should have been suspended. And, you’re kidding yourself if you think Brown and Edwards are the only players in the entire league who have fake vaccine cards. It’s not any different from a teenager getting a fake id. It happens every month.

  31. Goodell should vet all the off-site vaccination cards, but not because BA asked for it.
    It is not that difficult to do.

  32. So natural immunity is best, England now pushing 4th/shot-2nd booster. Mail in voting needed. Omicron yay!! Wake up.

  33. There is no “witch hunt” for unvaccinated players. They simply need to follow protocols in order to play. Why they are choosing to use forged vaccine docs has nothing to do with society and everything to do with their own lack of character.

  34. Verifying vaccination cards is neither simple nor easy. Great story in the Wall Street Journal today describes how AB was caught. Spoiler: it was not the card that gave it away, it was the story that went with the card.

    [I posted this earlier with a link to the story, but apparently that post never got past the automated anti-spam software. Oh well.]

  35. ‘The league asked the teams whether the percentage of positive COVID tests among those players was any different than the percentage of positive COVID tests among the players who were vaccinated at club facilities. Per the league, it learned via this exercise that there was no difference.

    That’s not the best way to find players who used fake vaccination cards

    That’s because everybody knows that vaccinated people can and do test positive (and that they carry the same viral load as non-vaccinated people)

  36. jcdough says:
    December 3, 2021 at 3:51 pm
    How is it fair that the NFL checked the validity of all the Bucs players’ vax cards, resulting in 2 players being suspended, but all 31 other teams get off scott free?

    Talk about a competitive advantage for all 31 other teams

    Now you know how I feel! I’m still waiting for the NFL a check the ball pressures of all teams in the league!

  37. A class act and legend like ARod12 would never do something so stupid, just stating facts.

  38. takemetomexico says:
    December 3, 2021 at 5:25 pm
    Pretty sure anyone can go find a fake vaccine card with $500 and very little effort.

    What’s amazing to me is the constant witch hunt, especially on this site and many others, for unvaccinated players or people. Then you wonder why people lie about their status.
    —————————————————————————————————-
    You’re amazed that people have a negative opinion against someone who buys forged documents and lies to their employer? Considering all his legal issues and adversity surrounding them, I doubt he bought a forged vaccination card to avoid a “witch hunt.”

  39. Why not just say you aren’t vaccinated?

    What’s the worse that could happen? Catch COVID and get a two week paid vacation.

  40. Bruce Arians seeks a competitive advantage by using league assets. Can’t say I abhor the tactic.

    But, really, he’s a guy they pull out of the stands every week to don the HC uniform. He’s the caboose.

  41. He just wants the heat off his team is all. Where’s Urban Meyer or Jon Gruden when you need them?

  42. Based on the headline alone, without reading the story, Arians will be welcoming back AB despite his previous comments.

  43. I got vaxxed I won’t be taking a booster or 4th shot. I mean I got my second shot and weeks later my doc was asking if I got the booster. Sorry, I do believe in vaccines, and I believe I’ve proven mine worked on 2 different occasions where I was in very close contact with people with COVID. That being said I’ve had the flu after getting the flu shot multiple times in my life.

    Good luck following the science.

  44. Isn’t presenting a forged vaccination card a federal crime? Is the league continuing to say AB and the gang “misrepresented” their vaccination status instead of mentioning the counterfeit cards to try and spare them of charges?

  45. How much is the NFL worth..?I just don’t understand why they don’t do easy things like checking vaccine cards to protect the integrity of the product..what benefit does Antonio Brown or Kareem Hunt bring to the league that is worth having them soil the image of the league

  46. Bruce, you sound like a whiny teenager. Focus on your team. Not to mention, you took on the possibility that your team will deal with stuff like this when you signed AB. Don’t try shifting the blame

  47. They can’t and won’t do it, reason being is a large amount of players will end up being suspended and that will open up a huge problem with the games and the NFL.
    Once again everyone can thank AB for simply NOT paying money once again to someone he owes it to. This never happens if this spoiled millionaire just paid his bills.

  48. It’s easy people, all you have to do is lie, mislead and cry about it and you only get a $13,000 fine!

  49. “I wasn’t the only one who took a cookie” gripes a young Bruce Arians after he was caught eating cookies, but his siblings escaped punishment.

  50. This guy is such a loser. He has a book out written about himself.

    Bruce Arians has a book.

    He spent his entire career as a coat tail rider.

  51. Lotta “Ifs” in the mix here. Was Brown ever on IR? Wouldn’t be surprised if Arians is try distract from the fact that he was informed and let it slide.

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