Bruce Arians in October 2020 on Antonio Brown: “He screws up one time, he’s gone.”

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So what will the Buccaneers do about receiver Antonio Brown in the aftermath of his three-game suspension for submitting a fake vaccination card?

If any of the various sports books were setting odds, “absolutely nothing” would be at -275.

They want him. They need him. They’re better when he plays. Besides, Tom Brady would never tolerate a decision to cut him, not now.

Of course, that’s not the standard that the team established for Brown when it signed him after he served an eight-game suspension in 2020 for violating the league’s Personal Conduct Policy. As coach Bruce Arians told Peter King at the time regarding Brown, “He screws up one time, he’s gone.”

Well, Coach, Brown has screwed up one time. And he has screwed up in a big way. So will he be gone?

It will be interesting to see whether Arians gets that question from reporters, the next time he faces them. He’ll likely find a way to word-salad his way around it, explaining that he said what he said when Brown had never played for the team, and that in the 14 months since his arrival he has been a model citizen, yada yada yada.

Yeah, he’s been a model citizen. Except, of course, the time when he lied about his vaccination status and necessarily endangered the health of people like Arians, a three-time cancer survivor, and 83-year-old offensive consultant Tom Moore.

Coaches rarely take a stand on principle when it comes to talented players deemed critical to the cause. If Brown were running sixth on the depth chart, he’d be gone. But they know what he can do, and they know what he means to the team. For that reason, Arians will say whatever he has to say to handle whatever questions he may get about “he screws up one time, he’s gone” before getting back to the task of trying to win another Super Bowl, which always takes precedence over principle. Even when the principle at issue can literally be a matter of life and death.

91 responses to “Bruce Arians in October 2020 on Antonio Brown: “He screws up one time, he’s gone.”

  1. Losing respect for Tom Brady. Obviously the man does not care about the character around him. Asking management to sign a well-known dirt bag like this guy is shameful.

  2. Lets be real. How tolerable you are, is in portion to your skills. They’ll tolerate him because he’s still has value to the team. Think Green Bay would have put up with AR’s nonsense over the past year if he wasn’t one of the best players in the league?

  3. After a pathetic 45 years of existence, the Suckanneers care only about winning. No way they release Brown.

  4. Isn’t easier to get a vaccination than go to the trouble of getting forged vaccination card?

  5. Belichick jettisoned Brown after one screw up. Arians coddled him in swaddling clothes and played dumb after several.

    Arians speaks with fork tongue.

  6. Lesson learned? Never believe one syllable of what a coach tells you. Nick Saban, Brian Kelly, Bruce Arians, etc, etc.

    They’re not honorable men.

  7. Arians is a big talker. He always uses hyperbole. He beat his chest for the media the other day about his defense: “Nobody can run on us!” Because of his tendency to boast and exaggerate, you cannot really take him at his word in any absolute sense.

  8. It absolutely can be life or death. My former wife lost her sister to COVID because she didn’t believe in the vaccine. Talk to your doctor folks. Listen to them.

  9. Whether it’s Brown, Rodgers, or any high profile athlete screwing up, we all know that as long as they bring in the wins teams turn a blind eye.

  10. Arians is a windbag. He loves to hear himself talk and act tough.
    This is when we get to see if there is a spine behind his words.

  11. bondlake says:
    December 3, 2021 at 10:01 am

    They’re not honorable men.
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    Neither is Brady honorable. He won’t allow it.

  12. Patriots fan here! I rooted (like many) for the Bucs last year, but holy lord. There isn’t much to like about anyone associated with Tampa now. “Win at all costs” is a gross mindset.

  13. Lying Rodgers broke protocols got zero suspension what Brown did is a federal crime and he got a
    pathetic token 3 game suspension add those two things together along with the dozen or so weekly
    covid infected or contact with and you have an NFL that cares more about how your socks look then
    it does about conducting business in a safe professional manner Goodell is at fault he is a clown.
    We need to see the FBI prosecute that criminal con man Brown no more slaps on the wrist or the
    special Lying Rodgers treatment we are sick of the NFL talking out of both sides of it’s mouth.

  14. Time for the politician in Arians to come out and explain why he’s not going to cut a guy who was supposedly on his last chance. All that tough talk was nothing but empty words.

  15. Arians is clearly a graduate of the Rex Ryan school of BS. Talks big but the team wins in spite of him, not because of him.

  16. tonyzendejas says:
    December 3, 2021 at 10:11 am

    Patriots fan here! I rooted (like many) for the Bucs last year, but holy lord. There isn’t much to like about anyone associated with Tampa now. “Win at all costs” is a gross mindset.
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    Really, dude? If that ain’t the pot calling the kettle black!

  17. aaronrodgers618 says:
    December 3, 2021 at 10:07 am
    If any of us lied to our employer, we would be gone. Brown should be no different.

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    Kraft and Belichick spent the rest of that year being ripped for making exactly that decision right away And not ‘giving him a chance’ or ‘letting things play out’.

  18. He’s a friend of the owner of the team right now, Tom Brady. So nothing will be done.

  19. Wow, Brown really made Arians look like a fool. Making your coach look like an idiot isn’t going to get you much extra playing time. Sure hope Arians doesn’t mind being looked as soft. Integrity appears to be a trait only very few NFL players and coaches have.

  20. Belichick did Brady the favor of bringing him to NE. But BB is much quicker with the hook and it really wasn’t open to a group discussion.
    He outright lied to his coach and teammates for personal gain. I’m sure that all of the players conceded to get the vaccine against their personal opinions will welcome him back with open arms.

  21. The real question here and the elephant in the room, Rogers lied and basically got nothing. Brown lied and gets three games. The issue still comes down to vaccinations and both lied.

  22. What’s the difference between this and what Aaron Rodgers did? Rodgers didn’t get suspended. Total B.S. Both should be suspended to make a point. What’s the idea of having rules if there’s no punishment. The inmates are running the asylum!!!

  23. Arians knows damn well he is not the only one who lied on that specific matter. So, to cut him on top of a suspension would be inappropriate.

  24. tonyzendejas says:
    December 3, 2021 at 10:11 am
    Patriots fan here! I rooted (like many) for the Bucs last year, but holy lord. There isn’t much to like about anyone associated with Tampa now. “Win at all costs” is a gross mindset.
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    Sorry, you’re not a Patriots fan if you rooted for Tampa.

  25. I think Arians will likely answer every question about Brown and the vaccine card with his favorite mantra of “no risk it, no biscuit.” Do that 6-7 times, like Bill and his “we’re on to Cincinnati” and the press will stop asking. Just embrace the crazy old guy card Bruce… I think it’s your only play available on this down and distance.

  26. Get the vaccine and all the available boosters. Those 5 shots won’t kill you. Covid will. Trust the science and get vaccinated now.

  27. Brown is a clown. Dude got caught red handed and rushed to his nearest Walgreens to get vaccinated.

  28. The bigger story here is that Tom Moore is still a coach. I did not know he was still living.

  29. A 3 game suspension is a fricking joke once again Goodell does the wrong thing he gave the NFL a huge black eye that it didn’t need he proved the NFL does not that Covid serious enough all they do care about is money nothing else this just showed us once again who they truly are i had two people in my circle die of covid it is real it is not a joke like the NFL treated it .
    While we are struggling to stay safe as a society and Brown broke an important federal law they treated it as a minor incident shame on Goodell and all the lying covid deniers at the top of that list being the Diva A. Rodgers.

  30. Sadly this won’t be anywhere near the last time this childish diva is suspended under the PCP

  31. A team would sign the Devil incarnate if they believed the addition to the roster would help them win.

  32. Brown will screw up again. Count on it. That’s the way he is hard-wired. He is a grown man who should not be able to go running to Brady for protection every time he gets into trouble, which is quite often. I hope that Bruce Arians sticks to his word if something else happens with Brown. I would even go so far as to say that if Brown gets himself kicked off the team, Brady will not be a Buccaneer next year. As much as he wants to be Brown’s babysitter ,it should not be allowed. It sends the wrong message to the rest of the team

  33. nite2al says:
    December 3, 2021 at 10:22 am
    tonyzendejas says:
    December 3, 2021 at 10:11 am

    Patriots fan here! I rooted (like many) for the Bucs last year, but holy lord. There isn’t much to like about anyone associated with Tampa now. “Win at all costs” is a gross mindset.
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    Really, dude? If that ain’t the pot calling the kettle black!

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    Yeah, really. The Pats have never been a “win at all costs” operation where coach/ownership tolerate being lied to and made to look like fools by star players. Brown himself was cut by the Pats for his first off-field incident 10 days after being signed. Hernandez was cut the day his legal problems became known.

    It’s been long established that the Patriots are simply better run and better coached than any other team. That’s not “winning at all costs”…it’s just “winning.”

  34. “Of course, that’s not the standard that the team established for Brown when it signed him after he served an eight-game suspension in 2020 for violating the league’s Personal Conduct Policy. As coach Bruce Arians told Peter King at the time regarding Brown, “He screws up one time, he’s gone.””
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    Talk about reaching. Arians was obviously talking about that season as that’s all Browns contract was for not he screws up on time til the end of time hes gone 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  35. Arians and the Bucs showed they have no scruples when they signed Brady – a proven, multiple-time cheat. So why would they they release Brown? If he can help them win that is all that matters.

  36. 73unit75 says:
    What’s the difference between this and what Aaron Rodgers did? Rodgers didn’t get suspended. Total B.S. Both should be suspended to make a point. What’s the idea of having rules if there’s no punishment. The inmates are running the asylum!!!

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    Saying something misleading in a press conference is one thing. The lie was to you and everyone else to get people off his back and asking questions about something they normally don’t have the right to know. As long as he was honest with his employers about his status.

    For AB, he turned in forged documents to his employer. He lied to them about his status – similar to saying you have a Ph.D. when you barely graduated high school.

    Be outraged all you want, but forgery is a crime, while misleading press conferences is standard practice for many. Ever hear a politician speak?

  37. 73unit75 says:
    December 3, 2021 at 10:34 am
    What’s the difference between this and what Aaron Rodgers did? Rodgers didn’t get suspended. Total B.S. Both should be suspended to make a point. What’s the idea of having rules if there’s no punishment. The inmates are running the asylum!!!

    The difference is what Brown did is illegal and a felony. What Rodgers did was stupid but not illegal.

  38. Reading all these comments makes me look at the other side of the argument.

    If this was the 5th-string receiver, or a practice squad player, would everyone be so passionate and vitriolic in their beliefs that these players need to be “taught a lesson” or “made an example of”?

    I’m sure most of the comments would be along the lines of, “Who cares? It’s not like he’s going to make a difference anyway”.

    It’s only because these are good players, and most likely have, or will, beat your favorite team, that everyone is so “outraged” and demanding maximum punishment for them.

  39. Broke the conduct policy again, repeat offender, last suspension was 8 weeks so shouldn’t be a year now?

  40. Ralph Waldo Emerson famously, and correctly, said: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” Who cares what Arians said more than a year ago? He’s reserving the right to be smarter today than he was then. Feigned outrage and the attempt to hold Arians to his “word” about Brown is the epitome of Emerson’s observation.

  41. Kicking AB off the team after a screw up, a major screw up < Opportunity to win back 2 back Super Bowls with a fresh AB back after 2 months off, nice and fresh for a playoff run…..

    Let me know if anyone is interested in buying this bridge I have to sell in San Francisco.

  42. Fraud — a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.

    Brown committed fraud against his team and teammates. That COMPLETE breach of trust fully satisfies the one more screwup requirement to lose his job.

    OBTW — I hope he’s fully prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

  43. AB didn’t screw up. He’s fighting back against tyranny. It’s been forced upon him
    Same with Rodgers and Cousins and all the rest who won’t put up with great reset.

  44. When asked how he’d feel about Brown’s release for breaking NFL rules, TB12 responded: “deflated”.

  45. The league ignored the criminal element by using terms like “covid protocols”. He illegally obtained and used a fake vaccination card. Usually, the league waits for the criminal investigation to conclude, then takes action. The team can take their own action including termination. AB deliberately lied to the Bucs when he submitted the fake card. The Chiefs cut Hunt for lying.
    The real damage will be ABs return. Regardless of his value as a receiver, he’s lost the trust and respect of his teammates and coaches. It’ll prove toxic in the post-season.

  46. Cleaver of the NFL to shyly says Brown and two others violated NFL rules about vaccinations. No where did they say fake shot cards, that could lead to felony charges and congress snooping into the NFL’s business.
    Thus again we find the NFL to be just as sleezy as some of their players.

  47. Why would one reasonably expect that the standard used for when he was newly hired be the same standard they use forever after?

    After the bizarre extended maelstrom that preceded his joining the team, he had a nearly flawless year, contributed meaningfully to a SB-winning season, and seems to have been a model roster member ever since. That would seem to change the standard.

    And if anyone thinks he’s the only player to have done this, I have a bridge on sale cheap for you. Just as with Gruden, he’s being made the example for something many of them have done or are doing.

  48. NOt sure if NFL rules allows Tampa to fire him considering he is already being punished. Can you punish someone twice without the NFLPA going bananas and screaming unfairness?????

  49. Really not sure why anyone would be surprised that there are separate rules and standards for star players. Jimmy Johnson was honest about it after he cut a backup LB after he fell asleep in a meeting. (I think it was John Roper). Someone asked Johnson what would have happened if that was Irvin, Smith or Aikman. He said “I would have woke them up”

  50. tigerlilac says:
    December 3, 2021 at 10:01 am
    Belichick jettisoned Brown after one screw up. Arians coddled him in swaddling clothes and played dumb after several.

    Arians speaks with fork tongue.

    273 20 Rate This

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    This isn’t true. BB was willing to deal with the drama for pouty Brady. Kraft cut Brown. That’s why Brown attacked Kraft publicly afterwards and why Goodel blackmailed Kraft again and did what cheating owners wanted.

    Note the difference between how Brady and Brown are treated on NE and how they are treated in TB.

    Goodell is the cheater.

  51. lgw91s says:

    Belichick did Brady the favor of bringing him to NE.

    =================================

    And how many favors did Brady do for Belichick over the following two decades? A few, I think.

  52. Don’t do an Aaron Rogers on us coach…! Your entire legacy and character is at stake here. Be a man of your word!!!

  53. This is not the same as Browns previous actions. The vaccine is a very personal thing. While what he did was stupid it isn’t the same as the actions which got him into trouble before.

  54. They won’t release him because he will end up on the Packers, Bills, Patriots, Chiefs, Cardinals, Rams, Cowboys, Chargers or Ravens and they will have to watch one of those teams win the Super Bowl with him.

  55. We all know that talent trumps being a jerk in the NFL. If you’re a big enough benefit on the field you can get away with almost anything.

  56. steeelfann0155 says:
    December 3, 2021 at 11:43 am
    AB didn’t screw up. He’s fighting back against tyranny. It’s been forced upon him
    Same with Rodgers and Cousins and all the rest who won’t put up with great reset.

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    He doesn’t have to be vaccinated. Fighting back would be not getting vaxxed and following the protocol. Instead, he committed a federal crime.

  57. What a bunch of pouty babies here. This has absolutely nothing to do with Tom Brady. If you want to bring him into this discussion, he handpicked Gronk, Fournette, and Brown to play with him last season. All of these players scored points in Super Bowl LV. You better believe that the greatest quarterback of all time runs the show in Tampa. And, there’s nothing wrong with that.

  58. Bottom line is that everyone knows AB will be a deciding force in the playoffs with multiple touchdown catches. He’s going to be a reason they advance and win out if they’re to accomplish that again. That’s all they (or any other team you’re all “outraged” about) care.

    When you’re in that category of top 10% performers on the field, everyone looks the other way for the most part.

  59. Losing respect for Tom Brady. Obviously the man does not care about the character around him. Asking management to sign a well-known dirt bag like this guy is shameful.
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    That’s been obvious to many of us outside of the Pats fan echo chamber for years. But we were just “haters.” Reality is, the guy is an all-time great athlete, and an all-time horrible person. And many others throughout the years have proven you don’t need to be the second to be the first.

  60. I love all these self-righteous people that say “prosecute” him. Where’s the proof? Sooo…some disgruntled ex-employee says he obtained a fake vax card. Ok…where is it? I don’t think it’s in the team’s or the league’s best interest to turn that over to authorities even if they have it.

  61. buffalo69 says:
    December 3, 2021 at 10:01 am
    Isn’t easier to get a vaccination than go to the trouble of getting forged vaccination card?
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    Of course. Brown obviously didn’t want to be vaccinated and preferred forging a card over whatever negatives he sees that come with not be vaccinated, i.e. extra protocols, answering questions about not being vaccinated, etc.

  62. “Reality is, the guy is an all-time great athlete, and an all-time horrible person. And many others throughout the years have proven you don’t need to be the second to be the first.” Cry me a river. Brady never lied about being vaccinated, throw his teammates under the bus after a loss, make winning or losing all about him, or break any laws. The same can’t be said about a long list of other players still playing today.

  63. minime says:
    December 3, 2021 at 10:59 am
    Much ado about nothing.
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    Submit a forged document to your employer. When they find out, tell them it’s nothing. Let us know how it turns out for you.

  64. AB is not breaking the law. He did something egregious which is up to the owners of team to determine what is appropriate. In no way should we take our cues from the NFL as a whole ( an entertainment entity) of how we should conduct ourselves in this new paradigm. I rarely agree with the author due to his tired platitudes, but for once he draws a good point , despite his unctuous pandering.

  65. Yup, Ricky Williams was pretty much driven out of the NFL for smoking weed. Antonio Brown commits a federal offense and puts his fellow co-workers at risk to catch a potentially deadly disease and gets a 3 game suspension. Good to see the NFL still has their priorities straight.

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