Pete Carroll: The Russell Wilson rumors don’t match our conversations

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The latest effort to get Russell Wilson out of Seattle has unofficially begun. Sunday’s report from Adam Schefter of ESPN.com carried not-so-subtle fingerprints from those close to Wilson who want to get Wilson to a new team for the next phase of his career.

Seahawks coach Pete Carroll remains undisturbed by the chatter, even if he should be. On Monday, Carroll explained his dismissive attitude toward the reports.

“The kind of conversations that we have behind the scenes are not in line with the rumors,” Carroll told reporters. “OK? There you go, they are not at all. We have been talking, we have been together and connected throughout this whole season. That’s why it’s easy to dismiss those at this time.”

Right, but it’s possible that Wilson is doing and saying whatever he has to do to play his current role to its conclusion, before pivoting to offseason mode, when his words and thoughts seem to shift from “Go Hawks” to “Go, Hawks.”

Carroll, even with hi spry, rah-rah attitude, surely realizes that people often say what they need to say in a specific setting, even if they don’t really believe it. Why would Wilson be immune to that basic reality of human nature?

He has a job. When he’s on the job, he’s all in. When he’s on the job, it’s not the time to be talking or even thinking about the next job. When he’s not on the job, that’s when those matters become fair game.

Besides, he’s surely not the one talking to Schefty. Wilson has people to handle his business interests, whether it’s negotiating a contract or navigating a path to a new beginning, one that will help Wilson reach his self-stated goal of three more Super Bowl wins, despite securing only one in a full decade in football.

Maybe Pete is in denial. Maybe Pete, like Wilson, is simply saying what he thinks he has to say. Regardless, anyone who has been paying close attention knows that there’s way too much smoke on this one. The fire is lurking. Last year, it was ultimately contained. This year, it could burn until either there’s a new coach in Seattle or a new address for Wilson.

42 responses to “Pete Carroll: The Russell Wilson rumors don’t match our conversations

  1. What ever team comes knocking with 3 1st rounders and a combination of players and second and third rounders along with the willingness to pay Russ $50 million a year (Russ usually requires he is the highest paid player when signing his new contract and that would need to be done soon) I am sure the Seahawks would jump at that. Seahawks own Russ for the next two years and then possible 1 or 2 years of tags.

  2. There goes the media again, trying to MANUFACTURE drama.

    Who exactly at these people “close to Wilson”? Name them or they don’t exist.

  3. Carroll leaves, or Wilson. Schneider has given him talent but Carroll hasnt coached them up and has underachieved since 2015.
    If he stays, Wilson’s wife might tempt Russell into going to NY or Miami, though Tua Tags showed toughness this year.

  4. Wilson is the one in denial, if he thinks he’s winning 3 more SBs. It does matter who he plays for.

  5. Anyone or any team who thinks Wilson is worth the above mentioned “3 1st rounders and a combination of players and second and third rounders” is crazy.

  6. If Wilson wanted to leave it would be easiest for him to just publicly say so. Since he hasnt, I chalk this up to media hysteria…as usual. Nothing to see here.

  7. Pete and John Schneider aren’t in denial. Pete is saying what he’s experiencing. If it’s completely different on RW’s end and RW is telling his people something completely different, then RW is a fraud.

    he’s built his brand on being an honest straightforward man. Pete and John can only assume that RW is being honest.

  8. Dear Seahawks and 2012’s, everything is cool, no problems at all. The makings of another championship team is right there for the taking. Remember how good it felt in 2012? Please keep the gang together for another amazing run. Signed, 49ers, Rams, and Cardinals.

  9. I think there was time when Wilson was a top 5 QB in this league, but that time is not now. Anyone giving multiple 1st rounders for the right to pay him an exorbitant amount of money deserves the average to above average years he has left, cap Hell and a dearth of draft picks.

  10. Or he could be doing what all NFL coaches do when asked about stuff like this: lie.

  11. I think its time for Carroll to go sip lemonade on a porch, and watch the flowers grow. The guy has spent more time making his hair look good for the camera, than running a clean program. It’s extraordinarily evident that Wilson wants a clean break from the freak show in Seattle. With or without Wilson, the Hawks need rebuilt, and would be crazy not to entertain outlandish offers for Wilson.

  12. I still can’t believe Carroll passed the ball instead of handing it off to Lynch. One of the most boneheaded calls in sports history.

  13. I just don’t see how the Seahawks surpass the Cardinals, Rams or 49ers in the next 3 years? Like how? They tossed away draft picks, the roster is aging. Those other teams are bursting with young talent. Good luck!

  14. The question that needs to be answered is “What does Russell Wilson want?” The principals – Pete Carroll, Russell Wilson and John Schneider – all usually have no problems talking. That this topic has lingered for a year means that there is a problem. The Seahawks at any time could have converted Russell Wilson’s contract to enable them bringing in more talent. Because they didn’t, that tells me that they don’t know what Wilson wants.
    Wilson has an almost irrational need to be acknowleged and recognized. This whole thing started at last year’s Super Bowl as the “NFL Man of the Year” sat in the luxury box with the Commissioner while Mahomes and Brady played on the field and Rodgers had the League’s MVP award in hand. Then Wilson went on his national media tour and began dropping a trail of bread crumbs about his value and greatness: he’s tired of getting hit; his male mentor died; he one day wants to own an NFL team; he wants to play until he’s 45; he wants to win 3 more Super Bowls.
    So Pete and Russell do need to talk in a ”smoke-free” room. I suspect that will start the minute Wilson gets back from his next national media tour. The man has a road map and he’s determined to follow it no matter what he says in public.

  15. Remember that one game when you should’ve run the ball? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

  16. I think that some fans are just spoiled.

    Since 2012, Seattle has had 9 winning seasons, 8 trips to the playoffs, 2 Superbowls with one Superbowl win. There aren’t many teams, over that period, that did nearly as well.

    This is their first losing season in 10 years and people talk about blowing it up.

    Spoiled fans. Most other fan bases would be thrilled to have the record that the Seahawks have had over the last 10 years.

  17. How many O-coordinators has RW ran out of Seattle? He is a mediocre QB who has lived and died by the big play, throwing a deep ball or running around and hoping for a miracle. Rarely does he go through his reads and pick apart a defense. No NFL team is going to give up the farm to have him come manage their offense.

  18. Its more likely that Carroll leaves than Wilson. Normally, teams don’t trade away their best player just to “shake things up”.

  19. LOL

    Carroll trying to do damage control. Wilson ran out of his office last year in a Brady-induced primadonna tizzy.

    We all know, Petey. We all know.

  20. Wilson’s trade value decreased this season. They should have traded him last year.

  21. you’re right, it is nuts to pay multiple first and a combination of players/later picks for Russ. BUT…those that do not have a QB. Will have to outbid to get the ability to trade for him. And therein lays the problem. QBs in draft this year are just okay. I don’t see home runs. FAs/trade market could be Russ, Rodgers, Watson…then Cousins, Carr, Garoppolo, Jameis, Bridgewater, Fitzpatrick, etc. Very few top end…and lots of baggage. So Pittsburgh and Denver are all in. Carolina. WFT. Minnesota maybe. Miami maybe. Vegas maybe. Giants maybe. Chicago maybe. Lot of teams that need to get better at QB.

  22. Teams will not make mega-offers for Wilson after a rough, injury-plagued season. Neither he nor Carroll seem inclined to push change right now either. Maybe next year.

  23. It’s so easy for a guy like Shifty to say… “There is a league-wide feeling, according to sources, that Carroll and Wilson will not be together again next season,”. I mean come on…we’re claiming facts off a guy sating the is a “league wide feeling”? What the heck is that?

    The only reason there is any smoke is because the media continues to hype it and try to make a story where none exists. I challenge one media member…just one…to come forward with one single verified source that backs this up as a story instead of a “feeling”.

  24. 50Stars says: January 4, 2022 at 11:08 am If Wilson wanted to leave it would be easiest for him to just publicly say so. Since he hasnt, I chalk this up to media hysteria…as usual. Nothing to see here. 79 25 Rate This
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    Wilson doesn’t necessarily want to leave. What Wilson wants is an offensive-minded, modern head coach that’s better suited for the game today, unlike Pete Carroll who relies on a rush attack and strong defense rather than a good passing game. As a result, he doesn’t like Seattle currently, and if you look at the teams on his list last year, all of them had offensive minded head coaches.

  25. January 4, 2022 at 2:35 pm
    My sources tell me RW is going nowhere.

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    Magic 8 ball?

  26. bobthebob12 says:
    January 4, 2022 at 4:59 pm
    50Stars says: January 4, 2022 at 11:08 am If Wilson wanted to leave it would be easiest for him to just publicly say so. Since he hasnt, I chalk this up to media hysteria…as usual. Nothing to see here. 79 25 Rate This
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    Wilson doesn’t necessarily want to leave. What Wilson wants is an offensive-minded, modern head coach that’s better suited for the game today, unlike Pete Carroll who relies on a rush attack and strong defense rather than a good passing game. As a result, he doesn’t like Seattle currently, and if you look at the teams on his list last year, all of them had offensive minded head coaches.

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    The coach who called a pass play in the biggest game of the year with beast mode mode in the backfield…. Gifting the Pats a SB…
    Get real

  27. What is amazing about this whole **cough** “story” is that people feed off it like it is factual. Since when do “feelings” equate to facts? Only to the Adam Shifty’s of the world and those who follow blindly. Good thing he isn’t considering a run for the Oval Office. 🙂

  28. Remember the video of Wilson laying in bed, announcing his new contract? That moment was a step in the team’s collapse.

  29. I’m sure the Seahawks have in mind a MAGIC NUMBER where they would not hesitate to call Russ’s agent to get the okay. That might not happen until NFL Draft Day. However, if the Seahawks can’t get that number and Russ doesn’t waive his right of refusal, there’s a very good chance Wilson plays in Seattle next year. So, what does Wilson want? How committed is he to the map he’s laid out for his career? He talks like he’s got “top 5 QB” status. But the truth is that each of the principal parties did not reach or live up to expectations the past few years…no matter what any of them say in public.

  30. It’ beyond obvious that Wilson is fueling the speculation on his possible departure. Just listen to what he says and he is saying one thing but if you read between the lines, he says things like: ” I don’t know if this is my last home game in Seattle “. Conclusion : “I want to pull a Brady and jump to a better team that gives me 3 more rings or maybe 5 ! “

  31. Everyone outside of Seattle wants Russell Wilson traded…but all of my friends who have been watching the Seahawks since the early 1980’s do not believe any of this…trading Wilson will result in a 7-10, 8-9, or at best 9-8 season next year….

  32. Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson will be back with the Seahawks next year. Only an idiot woukd trade Wilson.

    Wilson will play out his contract in Seattke. After that he’s likely to re-sign with Seattle and finish his career there.

  33. I truly feel that a few teams will test the Seattle front office with mediocre offers, but that no team will come close to an acceptable trade agreement. So Russell won’t even get a chance to decide if he wants to waive his rights to be traded.

    If I’m the Seahawks I offer an extension with increased salary but structured to have several void years to lower cap hit. With current positive cap space, go out and get the missing pieces to improve the team. Elite Offensive and Defensive line players are hard to find, but they need to get it done. One quality CB to add to their current crop will be enough with a tough front 7.

  34. The Seahawks have a solid foundation right now. They just need help on the offensive and defensive lines. A pass rush would be of great help to their DB’s. Cornerbacks can’t cover receivers forever.

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