NFL declines to comment on the Hub Arkush/Aaron Rodgers MVP voting situation

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Hub Arkush, one of only 50 people who hold ballots for the annual Associated Press NFL awards, admitted on Tuesday that he won’t vote for Aaron Rodgers for MVP, not because of Rodgers’s performance but because of personal considerations. It remains to be seen whether the AP will strip Arkush of his vote; the annual voting process begins next week.

The NFL has a role in this, too. Roughly a decade ago, the league made the AP awards the official basis for the NFL Honors ceremony, a made-for-TV event that amplifies the significance of these awards. The league, however, has nothing to say about Arkush’s admission that he won’t vote for Rodgers due to irrelevant factors.

“This is one of the annual Associated Press awards,” league spokesman Brian McCarthy told PFT via email. “It is announced during the NFL Honors show but the league does not select the voters or oversee any element of the process so it’s not appropriate for us to comment.”

While the league shouldn’t be micromanaging the process, it’s fair and appropriate for the league to generally desire that the voting will be handled responsibly and fairly. Too much is riding on these awards, which include MVP, comeback player of the year, offensive and defensive player of the year, offensive and defensive rookie of the year, and coach of the year. The 50 AP voters also determine the All-Pro team.

The process has plenty of flaws. Many of the awards aren’t defined. What does comeback player mean? What does it mean to be “most valuable”?

Also, if the AP is going to use only 50 votes (with one vote only per award, not a first-, second-, and third-place option), the list needs to consist of the 50 people best suited to make the assessments, without regard to business or political realities that necessarily corrupt the process. I’ve seen the list. Not everyone on the list should be on the list.

Starting with the guy who has said the quiet thing out loud, that he won’t be voting for the true MVP out of spite.

60 responses to “NFL declines to comment on the Hub Arkush/Aaron Rodgers MVP voting situation

  1. They know he’s right. No one wants an inconsiderate, irresponsible, smug liar to be the face of the NFL.

  2. An article I agree with Florio on. This guy should have his voting rights stripped publicly just as he went public with his vote!!
    He took it to a political and personal level and that is not OK

  3. Rodgers made a decision to put himself first, which to be fair is entirely his prerogative, but it came at the expense of his team. It’s perfectly reasonable to take this into consideration for an MVP award.

  4. Another example of media bias. How many more are out there? This is a microcosm of the media in general. This goes way beyond sports and MVP voting.

  5. Not sure how you can tank a teams offseason, lie to your fans, teammates, skirt NFL protocols and be the MVP while being 1,000 yards and 5 TD’s behind your competition.

  6. Serious question, why doesn’t the NFL or any other professional sports league commission their own awards? HOF? Why are these so-called prestigious awards and recognition left to writers and the likes that have their own personal and subjective criteria?

  7. Most valuable player, in my eyes, is a leader. A leader gets the damn jab. I probably wouldnt vote for em either.

  8. Once again you have someone trying to insert themselves into a story that has nothing to do with them. So this boob doesn’t like Rodgers personal decisions. Get over it.
    All he should be considering is where would the Packers be without Rodgers in the lineup.

  9. Why are we over looking the most obvious reason for this mans ire??? It took me I a little less than 30 seconds to find out hes a Chicago bears writer. Aaron is 23-5 against the bears. Case closed.

  10. Hub made it personal, not about the professional results.

    Not surprising, he also covers the Bears.

    It may just be he doesn’t know what good football looks like.

  11. Don’t see how this would change anything, he will just vote for someone else anyway. How could that be policed?

  12. Island Boogie says:
    January 5, 2022 at 10:39 am
    Rodgers made a decision to put himself first, which to be fair is entirely his prerogative, but it came at the expense of his team. It’s perfectly reasonable to take this into consideration for an MVP award.
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    You can clearly see how the Packers have faltered because of Rogers. C’mon man…….

  13. Football is a team sport. Individual awards like MVP are dumb anyways and always up for interpretation. If Arkush doesn’t believe that Rodgers is the most “valuable” player (whatever that means), then he’s not voting for him. You can’t strip his vote because he’s not picking who we want him to.

  14. Arkush is right about Rodgers’ ethical deficiencies. #12 exudes a salesman-like level of fondness and charm for others when things go well and he gets what he wants. Wouldn’t buy a used car from him.

    The most disappointing part of all the COVID misinformation spouters is their complete disregard for the burden of this pandemic on our health care professionals. Rodgers conveniently ignores the strain and risk to hospital and clinic staff in his selective “analysis.”

    I do understand how a Bears’ guy like Hub can’t stomach #12. However, MVP is what it is. It’s not “Most Virtuous/Ethical Player.” For 3 hours each week, Rodgers is highly valuable.

  15. Island Boogie says:
    January 5, 2022 at 10:39 am
    Rodgers made a decision to put himself first, which to be fair is entirely his prerogative, but it came at the expense of his team. It’s perfectly reasonable to take this into consideration for an MVP award.

    ————–

    Is that why he led his team to the #1 seed in the NFC?

  16. When a player puts an ‘i’ in team isn’t it fair to say he shouldn’t be considered the MVP of that team? If a player isn’t considered the MVP of his team, why isn’t it okay to say you wouldn’t vote for him as league MVP? Considering the criteria is somewhat subjective to begin with in the 1st place, how is that unreasonable?

  17. When did the MVP award become like the Baseball Hall of Fame? I didn’t know there was a character clause?

  18. There is politics and personal opinion involved in any award given anywhere. In this case, Hub just happened to say out loud what everyone else is thinking: Aaron has been a detriment to the team since the season started in March. He played head games — leading the team to wonder if he was even going to show up fat all — the he lied about his vaccine status and was granted all the privileges those players received while exposing everyone to COVID. Rodgers is a complete and total turd and it’s time we stop rewarding POS athletes just because they’re good on the field.

  19. Now, if they give it to anyone other than Aaron, the award becomes a complete joke.

    The media is playing checkers, while Aaron is playing Jeopardy.

  20. It’s just the blowback from the Colin Kaepernick situation. Although, Aaron Rodgers isn’t going to lose his job because of people disagreeing with his stance…although, in his case, how inane of a stance it is, since it’s not based on any actual expert research, just his own uninformed one.

  21. Arkush is a Bears fan through and through. Aaron Rodgers has owned his team for years (and wasn’t afraid to say so) and it drives him bonkers. That’s really what’s at the root of this.

  22. Nothing wrong with having an opinion. As it’s all opinion. Why isn’t Rodgers OL the MVP keeping him upright (he’s taken only 27 sacks, while Joe Burrow has been sacked 51 times coming off an injury).

  23. Aaron Rodgers to Hub Arkush, “Well the Jerk Store called and they’re running out of you!”

  24. Most valuable player=performance on the field,nothing more nothing less. No one’s vote should be swayed by personel opinion. Or should it be called most popular player.

  25. What’s the “situation” exactly? A loudmouth journalist spoke his mind about a loudmouth football player. Nothing here.

  26. MVP. Most Valuable Player.
    “Valuable” to whom, needs to be clarified before we know what we should be judging.

    His team?
    Himself?
    The league?
    His community?
    A combination of some, or all of those?

    The game was created for the public’s consumption.
    The public pays to follow players on and off-field accomplishments/exploits.
    The NFL happily sells access to the players’ on AND OFF-field performance.
    So why shouldn’t off-field behavior be considered in a vote for MVP?
    Rodgers has all of the on-field skills to be one of the two best QBs in the game, however, he is a pompous liar that his own family hates. That is his value. That is what he presents to the consumers of the NFL.

    I’m with Hub, or whatever his name is.

  27. “Too much is riding on these awards…”

    Like what?
    ==========

    For Rodgers or Brady?… not much at all.

    For Taylor or Kupp? Potentially, being enshrined in Canton……

  28. Would “never” vote for a LIAR… Character and integrity are foundational to any recognition. Rodgers has forever tarnished his reputation. Sad.

  29. As reporters in general have become increasingly much more opinionated and partisan I would take any award that they give with a big grain of salt. No matter what side of the aisle you’re on they’ve completely ruined any authority they used to have on any subject.

  30. The real question is does Paul Allen have a vote, do we get to see that he voted for Justin Jefferson, and then does someone take his vote away for being irresponsible? Obviously then we can see how the process works to strip Hub Arkish too. The point is that this is why unanimous votes don’t happen a lot. I’m sure 12 is every bit the tool everyone thinks he is. Do any of you remember having a 1 on 1 with Favre though? Or how about Jordan? Part of being good at the level these guys are good at is having the personality that creates that. Favre was an absolute DICK to EVERY person in GB he ever met that he didn’t think could help him in some way or be fun for him in another way. NO WAY SHOULD ANY VOTER BE CARING ABOUT PERSONALITY ON AN AWARD LIKE THIS.

  31. TO took so long to go to the HOF because of off the field considerations. Whether that’s fair or not its never been “irrelevant” to the NFL to consider the “personal feelings” that you deride of Arkush saying, and at least he owned them. There’s no definition of MVP or HOF, because it’s easier for the NFL not to define it publicly because everyone views it differently. Does Edelman deserve HOF with his 2nd best playoff stats ever? Is it okay that OJ Simpson is still in the HOF? I think that small off the field issues can be the tipping point with very similar stats but Owens deserved HOF immediately being 3rd in receiving yards ever. The NFL takes it too far because they didn’t like Owens. But with Rodgers not having thrown 4k yards even this year, picking someone else like Brady’s 5k yards and leadership, or even Burrow or Stafford would be legitimate options to say they were more valuable and the scales could be tipped by Rodgers missing the game from covid and hurting his team. Or picking Rodgers who has barely thrown any INTS compared to the others and has led his team to the #1 seed and beating most of the competitors in the NFC is a legitimate option as well.

  32. This guy made a mistake in admitting his reasons are not restricted to the playing field. He should have simply said, “I am not voting for Aaron Rodgers as his play, while outstanding, is not as dominant as ________. My vote is going to __________.”


  33. Island Boogie says:
    January 5, 2022 at 10:39 am

    Rodgers made a decision to put himself first, which to be fair is entirely his prerogative, but it came at the expense of his team. It’s perfectly reasonable to take this into consideration for an MVP award.”

    ————————————

    At the expense of his “13-3 BYE week in the playoffs, team”.

  34. He’s on-par with Lance Armstrong or Ryan Braun or Rafael Palmeiro. I’m sorry, but his athletic accomplishments should take second place to character. There’s more to a team leader than statistics, and all Rodgers has is statistics. Being a contrarian does not make him special. It only proves he believes the needs of many do not exceed the needs of one. Him. That’s it. He’s most valuable to himself.

  35. This award is about a guy’s on-field performance, not who he is as a person. If this clown doesn’t want to vote for Rodgers, he should keep it to himself. No need to make it personal.

  36. Applying personal bias is typical. The voters do it all the time in all sports. Also, regardless of whether it’s relevant to the MVP Award and the voting process, Rodgers is a jerk — we all know it’s true.

  37. This award is based on a player’s on the field performance as it relates to helping his team. I am a Bears fan and listen to Hub frequently, but he is way out of line if his vote is based on his opinion of a person’s character. He should be stripped of his voting privileges.

  38. Many players have clauses in their contracts regarding bonuses for earning such awards. Especially for being named to All-Pro team. So the awards do mean something to numerous players.

    That being said, I’m pretty sure something like this occurs every year. Only difference is Arkush said it out loud.

  39. Rodgers doesn’t deserve this because he’s not the most valuable player. Out of the 7 division winning teams with great qbs (sorry Titans), based just on this season I’d go with Josh Allen.

  40. Many Packers fans (myself included) don’t like the way Rodgers handled the vaccinated situation. In fact, many of my friends don’t care either way if he stays or goes next year. I’d like to see him win a Super Bowl and then be gone.

    That said, he is truly the MVP. He had one bad game in week one, missed one game due to stupidity, and then “lost” when Justin Jefferson launched a defender five yards before making a catch–which wasn’t called OPI for reasons passing all understanding. 35 tds and 4 ints. Without Viking/Ref collusion, he’s 14-1 on the year, with a bunch of injuries to deal with along the offensive side of the ball.

    No one else comes close.

  41. Arkush must’ve been one of those Bears Fans in the endzone giving Rodgers the finger,… when Aaron yelled “I OWN YOU” !!!
    If Arkush wants to make an MVP vote Political,… he should be removed from the panel of voters. It’s about on field team performance,… not personal choices off field.

  42. 12brichandfamous says:
    This guy made a mistake in admitting his reasons are not restricted to the playing field. He should have simply said, “I am not voting for Aaron Rodgers as his play, while outstanding, is not as dominant as ________. My vote is going to __________.”
    —————————————————

    He made no mistake… he’s got an agenda and an axe to grind. The conversation was never about who he thought should win MVP… it was about him making sure he let everyone know he thought Rodgers was a jerk. We’ve all worked with people who think everyone needs to hear about other people and who feel the need to pass judgement on others. I think we know what kind of people do that.

    What Hub “should have said” is… “While I personally disagree with Rodgers stance on the Covid vaccine, I understand that medical decisions are a complex and personal issue for everyone. It is none of business what Rodgers or any other adult does with their own body.”
    Instead we get like 5-6 minutes of guys who talk about a game for a living “dunking” on someone else simply because they dislike them personally without ever having spoken a single word to that person, mind you.

  43. SaintsGotRobbedButNOOOWItsAProblem says:
    January 5, 2022 at 10:45 am
    Most valuable player, in my eyes, is a leader. A leader gets the damn jab. I probably wouldnt vote for em either.

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    Rodgers led a decent roster missing it’s all pro left tackle to the best record in football, I’d say that’s leadership.

  44. Incredible. What self respecting player would even want the award after this?

    This media moron really stepped in it.

  45. Basically, the guy violated his promise. Don’t like Rogers- great. Guy said he would keep his yap shut. Liar. He revealed and politicized his vote. End of Story. My letter to the AP was to pull his credentials. On this I agree with Rogers and in the world of Football, he is the MVP hands down. Um, look at the completion vs interception ratio on Brady vs Rogers.

  46. I don’t know any Bears fans that like Aaron Rodgers at all, even before all of the controversies that he’s brought upon himself. A writer who disqualifies a great player before the season starts has no business voting at all. There are candidates out there that have earned consideration and it would be reasonable to choose one of them. He could have done just that but he had to go and open his big mouth. What a dope!

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