Ja’Marr Chase might play on Sunday, has chance to break 61-year-old rookie receiving record

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One of the NFL’s oldest records is the most receiving yards in a rookie season. Ja'Marr Chase could break that record on Sunday — if he plays.

The Bengals have already confirmed that starting quarterback Joe Burrow will sit out on Sunday, as the Bengals have clinched the AFC North and are getting ready for the playoffs. Chase, however, could “potentially” play, according to head coach Zac Taylor.

It’s unclear how hard Taylor would be willing to try to get Chase that rookie receiving record of 1,473 yards, which was set by Bill Groman of the Houston Oilers in 1960. Groman set that record while playing in the first season of the American Football League, but the NFL has accepted all AFL records as official NFL records since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger.

Chase has 1,429 receiving yards this season, so he needs just 45 receiving yards on Sunday against the Browns to break Groman’s record. Chase has gained more than 45 yards in 12 of his 16 games this season, so he has a good chance of breaking the record. But breaking the record will be harder with Brandon Allen, rather than Burrow, passing him the ball. And harder still if Taylor doesn’t want to give Chase too big a workload on Sunday to keep him fresh for the playoffs.

If you’ve never heard of Groman despite his rookie record, that’s because he suffered a serious knee injury in his second season and was never the same player again. Every promising young player is one play away from a potentially career-altering injury, which is why Taylor may decide not to give Chase a chance to break that record.

73 responses to “Ja’Marr Chase might play on Sunday, has chance to break 61-year-old rookie receiving record

  1. no mention whatsoever of how many games Gorman did it in, back then I believe they only played 12 games, so even if Chase does get more yards, it’s not really a record seeing as it will take nearly an extra half a season of games to do so

  2. The NFL may have adopted the records of the AFL. There are quite a rew AFL players who not recognized for their accomplishments.
    One such player was Gino’Cappelletti of the AFL Boston Patriots. He played as receiver and kicker for Boston. He held the scoring record for the Patriots until 2005 when his record was broken by Adam Vinatieri. He held 2 of the top 5 AFL scoring records, he was also the MVP in 1964.
    It seems that the NFL should in some way honor those AFL stars for their accomplishments not just their records. The NFL is doing football fans a disservice by not doing so. Most of those stars are now gone. The league should recognize those who are still with us.

  3. Groman had 1,473 receiving yards in… FOURTEEN games. Fourteen, not eighteen.

    You want the record? Then do it in fourteen or less; otherwise, it’s asterisk time.

  4. Records set in a 17 game season should never be compared with records set in a time of fewer games.

  5. There is another number more important 1473: 56. That’s how many years the Bengals have gone without a Super Bowl win. Mr. Chase gets an injury, even a minor one that keeps him out for one game, the chase for the SB victory becomes a bit more challenging. You only get one chance to break a rookie record, but chances at going to a SB are not easy to come by either.

    To Zac Taylor: Don’t be a Harbaugh, going after virtually meaningless records. Give both of your two best players the day off.

  6. The regular season was only 12 games in 1960. If Chase were to break Groman’s record, there should be a giant asterisk next to his name.

  7. We’ll be seeing many long standing records broken thanks to the extended season. Damn shame because Bill Groman only had 14 games to set this record back in 1960 that will now be shattered due to greed.

  8. It wasn’t broken last week therefore this is a completely different record, one which includes an extra 3 games. In 1960 there were only 14 games.

  9. Hey! Next year let’s have an eighteen game season so these records being set this year are meaningless next year! ….Stupid. There are a lot of records from many great players from the days of 12 or 14 game seasons that are now just afterthoughts.

  10. Who would have thought adding an extra game would shatter almost every record in the book…

  11. 1,473 receiving yards by Mr. Groman is insane if you consider the style of football played back in 1960.

    Needless to say, the season was shorter back then so any “record” Chase may break does deserve an asterisk.

    Let it stand Ja’Marr, let it stand.

  12. How many games did they play in 1960? .. 14 ? … to compare you should go by his first 14 games, … hell they play 17 now

  13. Groman did it in 13 games. That’s insane. He passed away 18 mos ago. Cool that he got to live his whole life as the rookie WR GOAT

  14. If the Bengals play him for this purpose they deserve to get bounced next weekend.

    Stat padding is a loser franchise mentality.

  15. If Taylor plays Chase just for the purpose of getting him some irrelevant rookie record then Taylor is an idiot.

  16. Asterisk…Groman did it in 13 games of a 14 game season. Chase is awesome, but apples to oranges…

  17. Undecided about this….yes it would be cool for him to get the record but at the expense of possible getting injured right before the playoffs? Bengals haven’t been to the big dance in a long time so I would say na-na. Be a big star in the playoffs and possible Super Bowl

  18. What Chase has done is incredible but it won’t be the same. Groman did it with 72 catches in 14 games. Chase has 79 catches so far heading into his 17th game.

  19. Sit Chase. Playoffs are priority. Gormans record was 14 game season anyhow, apples to oranges.

  20. So it only would have taken him 17 games to accomplish something that was done in 14 games.

  21. I’d give him a quarter. See how close he is, if he’s not close yet, sit him down. All of the records are gonna fall with these 17 game seasons, he probably won’t be in the book for long regardless.

  22. Groman achieved his mark in a 14 game season making it fairly meaningless if Chase needs 17 games to top it. Chase was 438 yards short of the mark set by Groman in an equal number of games.

  23. All these cumulative records need to be converted into “per team game” or they’re just a joke as seasons get longer.

  24. Every record broken on the 17th game will have an asterisk.
    Still a great feat, but we all know it’s not the real record. Unless you beat the record in the same amount of games, it should be noted ad such.

  25. 45 yards = 10 hitch routes or 1 go route. Easy money for chase. Give him 10 plays to get it. If he doesn’t get it in 10 plays sit him. Best of both worlds.

  26. Why not? Taylor had no problem risking Burrow’s health running it up on the Ravens and got him hurt not trying to score inside the 1 last week.

    Why not risk your star WR for record that really doesn’t mean anything.

  27. Groman was an amazing player with speed, huge hands, and nimble feet (his parents were famous ballroom dancers). Not only did he tally over 14000 yards in just 13 games (in a 14 game season), he racked up 27 touchdowns in his first 25 games the only player to do that. Sadly, his career was cut short by a knee injury. Medicine back then didn’t know how to completely fix ACL tears. To take nothing away from Chase’s brilliance, it is apple to oranges to compare their rookie yardage totals given the additional three games tacked on to the season.

  28. So NFL fans have turned into stat driven-MLB fan, gross. Time to go freak out about TJ Watts sack numbers.

  29. lollygagger8 says:
    January 7, 2022 at 9:25 am
    Get him 46 yards and then sit him
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    Yeah, that’s what John Harbaugh would do.

  30. Records aren’t super important to me, but they’re sometimes useful for measuring performance. And the number of games per season matters. Just like when the Pats lost in the SB to the Giants and the sad, old Dolphins were popping their champagne – well, the Pats won more games in that season than Miami did in 1972. So their mark for going undefeated was much harder.

    If Chase gets the record with 3 more games, that’s great, but it deserves an asterisk. Maybe the yards-per-game average is ultimately more useful as a measurement.

  31. Interesting link to the past: Groman first football related job after his playing days was as a part-time scout for the Bengals. Most of his scouting career was with the Falcons, however.

  32. jdoncbus says:
    January 7, 2022 at 9:55 am
    So NFL fans have turned into stat driven-MLB fan, gross. Time to go freak out about TJ Watts sack numbers.
    ===============
    Yeah, Maybe. However, if Watt gets the record, he will have done it in 15 games because he missed two games, and about 3 quarters of another one. Strahan did it in 16 games. On the other hand, if it were still a 16 game season, Watt would be done for the year and finish one short of the record.

  33. To the “asterisk crowd”. I totally understand the sentiment, but should we also put asterisks on all the quarterback records since the NFL started babying that position? Or all the offensive records since the addition of so many penalties to protect players? I get it. The records should be on a per games played basis. And NO player should ever be called GOAT…each era is completely different.

  34. nflfan1968 says:
    January 7, 2022 at 6:28 am

    There is another number more important 1473: 56. That’s how many years the Bengals have gone without a Super Bowl win. Mr. Chase gets an injury, even a minor one that keeps him out for one game, the chase for the SB victory becomes a bit more challenging. You only get one chance to break a rookie record, but chances at going to a SB are not easy to come by either.

    To Zac Taylor: Don’t be a Harbaugh, going after virtually meaningless records. Give both of your two best players the day off.
    ______________________________________________________

    Don’t be a Harbaugh? Where have you been? He put Burrow in late in the game against the Ravens to break a Cincy passing record a couple weeks ago. Hello?

  35. But all the haters on here will be talking out the other side when Watt breaks the sack record I’m sure. Here some knowledge Narris played 4 more games to break Ruth’s home run record. Anybody know how many games each one missed during those seasons? Nope, me neither

  36. randomname says:
    January 7, 2022 at 5:37 am
    Groman had 1,473 receiving yards in… FOURTEEN games. Fourteen, not eighteen.

    You want the record? Then do it in fourteen or less; otherwise, it’s asterisk time.

    50 22 Rate This

    Fair point. 1960 was the first year the NFL played 14 game seasons. That means the record Groman broke was set in 12, or fewer games. Does that mean Groman’s record should be asterisked? It’s not a record for yds per game; that’s a different record. If Groman deserves it with no asterisk so does Chase. Can’t have it both ways.

  37. To everyone complaint about how 17 games for 14 games need to hush. It’s not Chase fault there’s been added games since the 60’s. Records are meant to be broken grandpa. I won’t complain when someone breaks Chase record in 20 games in the future. Relax!

  38. If the NFL wants statistics and records to be meaningful, they should reset them all to be based on numbers / games.
    Otherwise stop talking about it.
    YARDAGE records based on 17 games versus 14 games is truly meaningless.

  39. An easy fix for all the season records falling due to expanded seasons would be to reformat season records to a per game basis instead of total for the season. Twenty two sacks would be 1.38 per game for 16 game season, twenty three sacks would be 1.35 for a 17 game season. The old record would stand.

  40. Yeah, the chance to break a record (that was done in much fewer games) VS possibly getting injured and missing a game, playoffs, Superbowl or year is absurd. Taylor should sit this kid.

  41. jsm08 says:
    January 7, 2022 at 9:48 am
    Why not? Taylor had no problem risking Burrow’s health running it up on the Ravens and got him hurt not trying to score inside the 1 last week.

    Why not risk your star WR for record that really doesn’t mean anything.
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    Bengals scored 10 second-half points against the Ravens in December, but sure, they were “running it up”.

  42. It would be a paper tiger accomplishment if he gets it…3 extra games needed to get it…. Don’t get me wrong, what Case has done is awesome, just not of the same caliber as what Gorman did….& IF he should get hurt just trying to accomplish that, it would be a very sad season for the Bengals!!!

  43. jsm08 says:
    January 7, 2022 at 9:48 am
    Why not? Taylor had no problem risking Burrow’s health running it up on the Ravens and got him hurt not trying to score inside the 1 last week.
    ________________________________________________________________________

    So you wanted them to not try to score in a tie game?

  44. This kid is great, don’t get me wrong. But how can the league not take into account that 2021 had 17 regular season games? For the next 20 years we’ll be talking about “well that was in a 17 game season…” for any records set this year going forward.

  45. So what if it’s 14 games compared to 17 games? Today’s NFL is a pass driven league, and it faces PASS DRIVEN DEFENSES!
    In the 60s it was run run run run and run some more! It was a bit easier to pass, because teams were built big heavy run stoppers.
    This isn’t saying anything against the 60s or Gorman, it’s simply a different time.
    Go set a new record Chase! It’s not diminishing the past, but not doing so does diminish the present.

  46. Listen the posters pointing out Chase played more games need to stop beating a dead horse. First off you are wrong. The talent pool in today’s NFL is much much different than it was in 1960. That’s not even up for debate. You inject either player into the others playing era and Chase will have the most yards of the two. Not to mention Chase has another 1000 yard receiver on the team in Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd has 800+ yards. Whereas Gorman’s next leading receiving teammate was a little over 700 yards. Chase is a freak athlete and would have easily dropped 2000 back in 1960 if given the chance.

  47. You cannot compare records that occurred in different amount of games unless the record breaker does it in fewer games than the record holder.

  48. It’s a different game now and essentially flag football. Receivers are protected so current stats cannot be compared to those from bygone era of real football.

  49. chue says:
    “And NO player should ever be called GOAT… each era is completely different.”

    True but each era still tries to win the championship and stats indicate how much a player contributes to the season. Like Aaron Rodgers once said “The regular season is to earn your paycheck, the playoff is to stake out your legacy.”

  50. It’s unclear how hard Taylor would be willing to try to get Chase that rookie receiving record of 1,473 yards
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    But is it really a record with a 17 game season when the record that currently stands came in a 14wk season?

    NOPE I don’t believe it is and it needs to come with an asterisk if he does break it!

  51. Groman on the AFL Houston Oilers led all receivers in the NFL and AFL by 200+ yards in 13 games. Then fell off after that year.

    Seems an amazing season.

    Definitely an asterisk if Chase gets it, but also an amazing season.

    Chase still the best rookie receiver right now since Groman (Which I assume most none of us ever heard of before) Both sets of numbers are impressive.

  52. But, if you look at the old timer rookie receiving records they had some huge yards per catch.Groman 20.5 ypc (1960) , Billy Howton 23.3 ypc (1952) , Harlon Hill 25 ypc (1954), Bob Hayes 21.8 (1965). Only recent ypc close was AJ Brown in 2019 at 20.2.

  53. Yea it’s more games to a season but if chase doesn’t do it someone else will so go get it. I mean we can do this with every record get over it

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