How much would the Dolphins have given up for Joe Burrow?

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After the Bengals refused to trade the first pick in the 2020 draft to the Dolphins, we speculated that, in time, the specific details of the offer would be leaked — either because Joe Burrow failed and the Dolphins wanted to brag or because Burrow became a star, and the Bengals wanted to brag.

Burrow has become a star. And the Bengals apparently are doing some bragging. (Unless, in reality, the Dolphins are doing some lamenting.)

But it’s still not entirely clear what the Dolphins would have offered. Apparently because the Bengals never wanted to fine out.

Via Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, the Dolphins were willing to send to Cincinnati all three of their 2020 first-round picks, “and potentially more.” The “more” never became known, because the Bengals declined to listen.

The Dolphins, of course, wouldn’t have had to try to give up so much to get Burrow if they’d heeded the not-so-subtly expressed desire of owner Stephen Ross to tank in 2019. Although the initial objective of the owner’s desire was Tua Tagovailoa, Ross became enamored with Burrow as the draft approached. Ross, as we reported numerous times at the time, wanted Burrow. Badly.

As recently speculated, the failure of coach Brian Flores to implement the tank mandate may have become the first break in the relationship between head coach and owner.

And so Ross, as Adam Schefter of ESPN reported at the time, made multiple attempts to trade up. The Bengals consistently declined. As the new report from NFL Media reconfirms.

We eventually put it this way, on the morning of the first day of the 2020 draft. Ross needed to make a call directly to Bengals owner Mike Brown. Ross needed to put all cards on the table. He needed to make Brown an offer he couldn’t refuse, and Ross needed to force Brown to refuse it.

Based on Rapoport’s report, Ross never fired his shot. Ross should have. And Brown should have wanted to know what Ross would have offered.

At the time, no one knew what Burrow would become. It’s one thing to have three first-round picks and more offered for an established player, like Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. It’s quite another to get that kind of potential haul of unscratched lottery tickets for a single unscratched lottery ticket.

In hindsight, it definitely worked out for the Bengals. But they took a major risk by refusing to learn what the Dolphins would have offered in addition to the fifth pick in the 2020 draft. No player is a sure thing, especially not after suffering a serious knee injury in November of his rookie year.

Indeed, if the Bengals had accepted Miami’s best offer and taken Justin Herbert with the fifth overall pick, maybe they’d still be waking up today with a chance for their first Super Bowl berth since Tom Brady was 11 years old.

29 responses to “How much would the Dolphins have given up for Joe Burrow?

  1. Find coulda kept all their picks and got Justin Herbert. They’d still be a mediocre 8-9 win team but they’d have a better qb.

  2. As a Patriots fan, I’m glad the Dolphins didn’t get Burrow–or Herbert, for that matter. After I get finished cleaning up after 23 inches of snow, I’m looking forward to watching Burrow this afternoon.

  3. Still good that Miami didn’t. Creating a losing culture doesn’t result in a winnung formula.

  4. If they had just given up a win to the Bengals the year before, they probably would have had him

  5. Patrick says:
    January 30, 2022 at 10:39 am
    Mac Jones is the second coming of Andy Dalton. He will never compete with real QBs like Allen.

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    Josh Allen was terrible his first 2 years, so Jones is way ahead of Allen at this point, not to mention who his coach is compared to what Allen has. lol

    Allen’s cap hits in 2023 and 2024 are 43 and 51 million dollars, respectively and Allen was the Bills leading rusher last week. Both major red flags for the future. The cap hits alone secure the idea Allen will get worse due to sustained cap hells. These aspects are big problems beyond Allen thinking the league rules which favor offenses for bloated stats, really means he is a potential sb winner, when he likely just mised his best window last week after the Bills infamous 13 second” choke job.

    I’ll take the cheaper qb who doesn’t need to run 12 times a game and who is ahead of schedule, thanks very much.

  6. As a Patriots fan, I’m glad the Dolphins didn’t get Burrow–or Herbert, for that matter.
    LMFAO. As a Fins fan, I’m glad that Tua is 3-0 against the Pats 😎. Everyone knows Tua>Mac

  7. If Chris Grier and the Dolphins had even a tiny clue as to what they’re doing and could actually evaluate talent, the Dolphins, without moving, could have simply selected Justin Herbert at 5, Justin Jefferson at 18 and Jonathan Taylor at 30 when it was their turn. They took Tua, a worthless tackle and a cornerback who will probably be out of the league this year. Some organizations are good at what they do. The Dolphins are not.

  8. Patriots would have won the East if they had Tua. Fins have a disastrous O-line and terrible running game compared to the Patsies. As soon as Miami gets their line fixed and drafts a stud rb, the division will be theirs.

  9. It sounds very reasonable regarding the flores and owner conflict, I am onboard with the tanking aspect.

  10. cbas47 says:
    January 30, 2022 at 11:12 am
    As a Patriots fan, I’m glad the Dolphins didn’t get Burrow–or Herbert, for that matter.
    LMFAO. As a Fins fan, I’m glad that Tua is 3-0 against the Pats 😎. Everyone knows Tua>Mac

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    Yeah, and Mark Sanchez was something similar against NE during their 2009-2011 rebuild process, too.

    How’d that work out? I mean, this is why your team will never sniff a super bowl. You value things no one cares about remembers while ignoring how to do proper teambuilds.

  11. Tb6 will take a noodle arm who will never be a franchise Qb because all that cap space can go to overpaid bum FAs that are also not playmakers and a defense that gives up a touchdown every single drive. Dynasty.

  12. This has gotta come from the dolphins. First, burrow was good but in no way had the appearance of a sure thing superstar. Second, it would benefit Ross to lead the fanbase to believe he did everything possible to deal for Burrow.

  13. This assumes that the Dolphins organization is a competent one, and that if they had Burrow that they’d be able to maximize his talent.
    There is no evidence that this would have happened.
    In the past 20 years, Miami has made the playoffs exactly twice, (and one year was when Brady tore his ACL in week 1 of 2008) and have zero playoff wins since Dan Marino and Jimmy Johnson retired after the 1999 season.
    The Bengals may gotten a lot of grief for being one done a bunch of times with Andy Dalton and Marv Lewis, but even that looks stellar when compared to the Dolphins during the same stretch. And given the chaos that seems to be there now, there’s no sign that that’s going to change anytime soon.

  14. Josh Allen was terrible his first 2 years, so Jones is way ahead of Allen at this point, not to mention who his coach is compared to what Allen has. lol

    Allen’s cap hits in 2023 and 2024 are 43 and 51 million dollars, respectively and Allen was the Bills leading rusher last week. Both major red flags for the future. The cap hits alone secure the idea Allen will get worse due to sustained cap hells. These aspects are big problems beyond Allen thinking the league rules which favor offenses for bloated stats, really means he is a potential sb winner, when he likely just mised his best window last week after the Bills infamous 13 second” choke job.

    I’ll take the cheaper qb who doesn’t need to run 12 times a game and who is ahead of schedule, thanks very much.

    That’s funny. Pats have no QB, no receivers and just got blown out by the Bills. Tommy’s gone so you can live in the past-Belicheks drafts are horrible. GM Beane manages the cap well so the AFC East goes through Buffalo.

  15. touchback6 says:
    January 30, 2022 at 10:26 am
    Miami missed on Herbert, Burrow and Mac Jones.
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    Lol. Mac Jones. See me in 2 years.

  16. Stephen Ross has a choice of two distinct paths. The first is years of being “Kirk Cousin’d” with Tua at the helm; a bit of a tease but never a championship QB and ultimately the definition of a 0.500 QB. The second is making a move to get a top flight QB. But Tua is just good enough that they’ll likely never be in a position to draft one, so it’s going to cost, and cost a lot if Ross is serious about getting a QB like Watson or similar.

  17. You give up everything for Joe Burrow. Look at what he’s done for Cincinnati. They haven’t changed one thing about the way they operate. But not everyone that loves Burrow today, loved him on draft day. Not everyone loved him a month or so ago. He’s growing up right before our eyes. Unless you’ve seen a lot of Bengals games, you haven’t been able to appreciate him. The Bengals will definitely be on a number of prime-time games next year, and everyone will get to watch him. He’ll get mentioned in the conversation with the best QB’s in the league. But unless you saw him play at LSU, you wouldn’t know him from any other QB. He wasn’t just a QB on a great team, like many of the Alabama and Ohio State QB’s through the years. He was a great QB on a decent college team, and he won everything. Since he’s been gone, LSU has gone right into the tank. That doesn’t happen when an Alabama QB leaves.

  18. The Bengals were never trading the #1 pick. No matter what the Dolphins supposed offer was.

  19. Dolphins could of had Justin Herbert and Jamaar Chase. Just in the last 2 drafts alone. No crazy formula or trades involved. Stay in your draft spot and learn how to evaluate talent. Instead they got Tua and Waddle. Two really nice guys but definitely not the talent level of Herbert and Chase. Herbert and Chase were highly regarded by a majority of teams hence them both being top 6 picks. At least the dolphins can say they beat the Patriots since that is always better than a playoff victory for them. Miami could have 6 first round picks and I am sure they would waste them all.

  20. Grier doesn’t evaluate talent, he kisses Ross’s butt to appease his man crush at that time. If Harbaugh comes in, I hope he gets full control and squeezes Grier out.

  21. Thanks to that idiot Flores, the Dolphins are once again 10 years in hole. Just could not even lose properly. No wonder the clown does not have a job yet, who would want him?

  22. There is only one person responsible for Miami not getting Joe Burrow. And that is their GM Grier. He was tasked with trading away players to load up picks for the future and ensuring the first pick in the draft. He didn’t trade away enough talent to achieve that goal. Even during the season he could have traded players to weaken the team further but he didn’t. You can’t ask a coach or players to cheat. If the organization plans to lose that has to come from those providing the players.

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