Brian Flores sues NFL, Dolphins, Giants, Broncos, alleges racist hiring policies

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Former Dolphins head coach Brian Flores is suing the NFL and teams he says have engaged in racist practices against Black coaches.

Flores named the league, the Dolphins, the Giants and the Broncos, as well as “John Doe teams 1-29” as defendants in the lawsuit, which is structured as a class action complaint, suggesting that Flores expects other coaches to join him as plaintiffs in the suit.

The suit makes explosive allegations about the Dolphins, his former employer. Flores says that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross offered to pay him an extra $100,000 per loss during the 2019 season, as Ross wanted the Dolphins to lose enough games to secure the first overall pick in the 2020 NFL draft. (Although the Dolphins were widely perceived to be tanking early that season, they improved in the second half of the year and ended up with the fifth overall pick.)

Flores also alleges that Ross tried to get him to recruit “a prominent quarterback” who was under contract to another team, in violation of league tampering rules. Flores says he refused.

The lawsuit also says the Giants scheduled a sham interview with Flores last week to comply with the Rooney Rule, and that Flores learned that his interview was a mockery because his former boss, Patriots coach Bill Belichick, mistakenly texted him a congratulatory message, thinking that the Giants were going to hire him. In fact, Belichick later revealed that he had misunderstood another text he received and that he was actually told the Giants were hiring Brian Daboll. The Giants did, in fact, hire Daboll, and the texts suggest that they had already made that decision and scheduled the interview with Flores only because the Rooney Rule required them to interview a minority coach before they could make the Daboll hiring official.

Flores also says the Broncos put him through a similar sham interview three years ago, and that they never had any intention of considering him for the job. The Broncos hired Vic Fangio shortly after Flores’ interview.

Flores released a statement saying, “In making the decision to file the class action complaint today, I understand that I may be risking coaching the game that I love and that has done so much for my family and me. My sincere hope is that by standing up against systemic racism in the NFL, others will join me to ensure that positive change is made for generations to come.”

331 responses to “Brian Flores sues NFL, Dolphins, Giants, Broncos, alleges racist hiring policies

  1. So Flores is suing because of the Rooney Rule? Sounds legit. What a weird way to declare that he does not want to work in the NFL anymore.

  2. It also claims the Dolphins owner offered him one hundred thousand dollars a game to lose.

    If that’s true how is that any different than Pete Rose.

    The Dolphins are a joke of an organization

  3. This is a shame. He is a good coach who was destined for another head coaching gig. He should have directed his anger solely at the Dolphins and left the other teams out of it

  4. Odd dude. Ross is a mind-numbingly awful owner, but this gives some clarity on where Flores’ head is at. It certainly was never on building on NFL-caliber coaching staff…….

  5. His coaching career is done… It’s becoming less and less surprising the Fins fired him as each little leak comes out. I suppose that’s point of those leaks.

  6. Looks like Flores caught the Giants in a lie. Good for him. The good ol boy system is racist and antiquated and I hope this lawsuit bleeds the Giants and the NFL dry

  7. Ahh man. Flores appears to be an excellent head coach but we will never see him on the NFL sidelines again. Such a shame.

  8. Dude should have done this sooner or waited until after the Texans make their decision.

  9. Career “probably” over?? This is suicide, who the hell would hire him now?? No wonder Miami fired this guy…

  10. Quite honestly the Rooney Rule is an insult. Interview a coach for a job if you think he’s qualified, not because a rule says you have to. It’s a waste of everyone’s time.

  11. Sometimes instead of blaming everyone else, a person just needs to look in the mirror and reevaluate the situation and what they could have done better. Take notes and apply the lessoned learned too the next position, just like everyone else who has ever been fired. This blame game is old.

  12. He seemed to like Ross a bit more when he hired him with no previous NFL coaching experience.

    This guy is a whacko, BUT………I have to admit that anything that makes Ross’ life miserable is ok with me.

  13. If there’s verifiable proof of the request for tanking, that right there could sink Ross due to the monetary stakes of legalized gambling.

  14. He’s probably ending his career, but good for him. One black coach in a league that is at least 75% black, something’s wrong with the picture if you have a brain. They can hire whoever they want, but it doesn’t make it right.

  15. Good for him. His claims are obvious. Just take a look at the players and then coaching staffs, espcially the highest paying jobs. Hope he gets paid.

  16. The allegations against the Dolphins are damning. If true, the integrity of the game is at risk. Trying to intentionally throw games. I’m sure the NFL will investigate. *cough*. Of course if they do, they’d also be helping Flores’ suit.

  17. Total BS. He had an NFL job and most would say he never should have been fired. I would think that NO NFL team will touch him now. He just destroyed his coaching career. Congrats!

  18. Bizarre how Dolphins gave him 3 years with Grier in the first place? He probably has a Stanford or college gig lined up to pay him 10m as his NFL career looks done.

  19. The Giants obviously targeted Daboll as the guy they wanted. Makes sense, look at what he did in Buffalo. Flores needs to realize that teams may already have honed in on a certain coach regardless of race. Too bad. I liked Flores, but this taints his image in my mind.

  20. The balls on this guy! He’s not wrong and good for him standing up for what he believes! It should have been him and not Meatboll too.

  21. So he is suing because the Rooney rule forces teams to interview coaches, that they are not planning on hiring?

    He is missing the point of the rule. Its there so that teams will interview minority Candidates, who may be able to “WOW” or otherwise change their minds about who they are going to hire.

    If the NFL gets rid of the rule, then it will be even harder for minority candidates to get an interview.

  22. He is done in the NFL. I liked the guy and wanted him to get another job but since he wants to fall on that sword… Good riddance.

  23. So… if what Flores is alleging here is true about being paid to throw games Black Sox style and blatant tampering by the owner.

    Why wouldn’t that warrant the most severe punishment in the history of the league?

  24. Why would he do this? Is he not interested in coaching anymore? There isn’t a single NFL team that will go near him now. This just doesn’t make sense why he would make this move. It’s not wise to air dirty laundry from your former employer… SMH.

  25. So, if he was interviewed *after* Daboll had been given the gig, then it is a violation of the Rooney Rule. That’s not the Rooney Law, so I am not sure what suing will do, but it definitely breaks the spirit of the Rule that requires minority candidates to be interviewed.

    But the Giants being punished? Not likely.

  26. Was it racial discrimination when Ross hired him as HC?
    He stopped speaking to his coordinators, GM (who is African American) and assistants. Anyone would be let go of that’s the route we all took.

  27. Good for him. the Rooney rule is a joke. Bob and Bill would hire him back in a second.

  28. I guess this means there are several other people besides his coaching staff (who he stopped talking to midseason) that he will no longer talk to. He already went through many assistant coaches in just his 3 years.

    The Dolphins part of this article is just a distraction. It may have violated NFL rules but certainly wasn’t racist what they asked him to do and his claim is the entire NFL is racist.

    That Belichick coaching tree just keeps getting worse and teams keep hiring them.

    I don’t think this is going to end like he thinks it will. If he doesn’t like that teams were required to interview minorities for coaching positions, the NFL can stop requiring teams to interview minority coaches, problem solved.

  29. Oh wow. This is going to be a HUGE deal, esp for Ross with the money for tanking if he can prove it.

  30. So he’s naming all the other teams, including black GM’s with coaching vacancies like Ryan Poles?

  31. @yaz67 with the exception of his first year, he has put up a winning record every other year. I have no doubt he is correct that teams are doing token interviews with minority coaches simply to hire the guy they want.

  32. What an incredibly stupid thing to do. Teams have had minority interviews to fulfill the Rooney Rule all the time. THEY HAVE TO!! His complaints about the Dolphins’ owner are irrelevant. He was destined for another head coaching job. Now his career is possibly over.

  33. I am torn on this one. While I might not necessarily think most owners are purposely not selecting minority head coaches over white coaches, they could be selecting the ones with the most experience up to that point. Experience that could be from just being good at what they do, or they could have gotten it because they looked more similar to the althetic director back in college. This will be hard to argue and prove.

  34. You could see this coming like a Buffalo storm warning in February.

    “Yeah, just hire the right person!” That’s what apologists say.
    About 25% of the NFL hires “the right person” every year and most of those people are not of color.

    If 60% of players are of color, how can only 1/32snd be coached by someone of that same race?

  35. As more information comes out, this is going to be a whole lot more than just hiring coaches. Stay Tuned Kids!

  36. sayormills49 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 4:27 pm

    This is a shame. He is a good coach who was destined for another head coaching gig. He should have directed his anger solely at the Dolphins and left the other teams out of it

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    I agree with you … but apparently Brian feels this issue is much bigger than a NFL coaching career. If he’s as successful as Curt Flood, his name will live on a bit longer.

  37. If this somehow means the Vikings pass on Harbaugh and hire Patrick Graham I’m going to be so bitter toward Flores.

  38. So the NFL has 32 teams. In 2020 there were 5 African American coaches and in 2021 there were 4. African Americans make up 13% of the American population. 13% of the 32 head coaching jobs is just a little under 4-1/2. There is nothing wrong with more than 5 having head coaching jobs,but if African Americans think they should be represented by 50% in all jobs in this country,we will run out of them very quick.
    At some point we need to celebrate the accomplishment that African Americans made over the last few years as head coaches in the NFL.Achieving more than their representation of population. The NFL’s policy that African Americans had to be interviewed helped make that happen.
    As for Stephen Ross,if Brian let those things happen while he was coach and didn’t report them to Roger Goodell immediately that is on him,he kept coaching for Miami, raised no concerns, and was looking forward to next year when he found out he was fired. Now he’s making accusations without proof. He’d better have it, if he doesn’t he’ll likely never coach in the NFL again.

  39. yaz67 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 4:28 pm
    I am sure it has nothing to do with his career record

    He finished with 2 winning seasons in 3 years. That’s not bad for a first time coach

  40. Good. Finally someone is speaking out against the worst kept secret in the league. Someone has to suffer so others in the future can prosper.

  41. This is proof that not only is the Rooney rule not working, it is causing a lot of unneeded resentment.

  42. I’m not sure what to think about this… He’s got to do what he feels is right, but, he was blessed with an NFL head coaching job, he lost it because he evidently wasn’t very subordinate to his boss’s wishes. Maybe he’s just not cut out for the job he seeks? That happens in life and it doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with skin color.

  43. Any word on his planned interview with Saints? That’s a wrinkle in the interview prep, no?

  44. Wow! Can you imagine coaching and playing for a team where the owner is paying the HC 100k per game to lose.

  45. Well when you have a rule that forces teams to interview coaches they have no intention of hiring you are going to get sham interviews…

    What an epic implosion by Flores.

  46. Whose decision was it to draft Tua over Herbert? My guess is that it wasn’t Brian Flores.

  47. It’s likely not so much racism as much as it is cronyism.. which can certainly be influenced by race.

  48. So Ross PAID him to tank in 2019? Sooooo, what’s Flo’s explanation for the 7 game losing streak in 2021? Oh, Ross paid him as well for the 7 game losing streak, that’s right.

  49. The headline is going to trigger people, but the details do look a little suspect by the teams involved (not necessarily the league).

  50. No reason to doubt what he says about Ross. And it sounds like the text messages in question confirm his allegation against the Giants. Somebody needs to put this boys club of money-grubbing billionaires in its place. Have at it, Mr. Flores.

  51. Why would Ross need to pay Flores money to lose? All Ross had to do was tell Grier to trade away more players for picks to lose! He could have had him trade players up to almost the middle of the season.
    Brian better have proof. What owner would touch him after this.

  52. This is tragic.

    Not sure if he has enough solid proof to beat the system, only he knows. He’s right, unless he’s on solid ground, this might be the end of his career.

    Good coach, but I think that this highlights that he had issues. Maybe those same issues came across in his interviews.

    Good luck to him

  53. February 1, 2022 at 4:28 pm
    I am sure it has nothing to do with his career record.

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    Sure, let’s look at it:

    In three years as a HEAD COACH, he went 24-25. Just under 50%. Not great.
    The last two years, however, he went 19-14 and took the Dolphins to their first back-to-back winning seasons since 2004.

    His career COACHING record, however, includes every win, plus every division and conference title, and Super Bowl win from 2008-2018.

  54. Dude may be on to something…cant tell me there aren’t brilliant black coaches out there while the league keeps the same handful of washed up has-been head coaches.

  55. Not saying that he is correct in this instance – But – just look at the Packers – Are not all their interns and assistant white? Lewis Butkus Mahaffey Vrable?
    As a head coach you hire those who have the same type of mindset. But there is a whole bunch of nepotism and all one has to do is look at all the young new style coaches who are or have relatives in the coaching fraternity. Until these intern, assistants and quality control positions include a whole lot of minority candidates how would one expect more minority coaches to rise through the ranks. A few get positions as D assistants and eventually as D co-ordinators – but that is a hard nut to crack into.

  56. They can’t seem to understand that equality means equal opportunity.Not that the job is yours if you apply for it, and if you don’t get it, its discrimination. Big. Difference.

  57. No it has nothing to do with his record if his allegations are true it’s multiple violations of league policies.

  58. flash1224 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 4:25 pm
    It also claims the Dolphins owner offered him one hundred thousand dollars a game to lose.

    If that’s true how is that any different than Pete Rose.

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    Actually it’s more like the Black Sox.

    Rose bet on his team to win.

  59. If you’re going to create a hiring rule that ignores Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, this kind of thing is going to happen.

  60. So….evidently he doesn’t actually want to be a coach in the NFL again? Interesting that he names all NFL teams…even the ones with minority coaches.

  61. He might be right but not super smart. What he should have done was get a job first, then sue the NFL. No way he gets fired with the lawsuit pending. Also, don’t name everyone in your complaint. Stick to the stuff you can prove in court

  62. Mad respect for him for turning down money to lose. Wonder how this is gonna go over in the Dolphins’ locker room

  63. If he has receipts on the owner offering bonuses for losses… that guy could lose his team. “Intergrity of the game” Goodell has to drop a big hammer for that.

  64. Who knows whether what Flores experienced is true, but the truth is that the Rooney Rule has indeed been a sham for some time now.

  65. As a lifelong Dolphins fan I was very disappointed when Flores was fired. The further this goes the more I’m thinking Ross made the right choice. I’m sure teams that interviewed him did their due diligence and it would seem whatever happened in Miami was largely due to Flores inability to get along with others. Bottom line, had he interviewed well he woulda been offered a job by one of these teams.

  66. So the NFL forces teams to interview black coaches in the hiring cycle, so he is suing NFL teams because they’ve abided by the rules that were imposed on them.

  67. josh plum says:
    February 1, 2022 at 4:40 pm

    I am torn on this one. While I might not necessarily think most owners are purposely not selecting minority head coaches over white coaches, they could be selecting the ones with the most experience up to that point. Experience that could be from just being good at what they do, or they could have gotten it because they looked more similar to the althetic director back in college. This will be hard to argue and prove.

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    It’s easy to prove. He just needs to show that the Giants made their hiring decision before they interviewed a black candidate for the job, thus violating the Rooney Rule. The purpose of the Rooney Rule is to give black candidates a foot in the door to the hiring process for head coaching and senior football operations jobs. It doesn’t guarantee them a job. It just prevents black candidates from being excluded from the process.

  68. But it was well known the Giants were going to interview Pat Graham too, so they didn’t need Flores to fulfill the Rooney Rule. They interviewed Ryan Roles for GM too… was well reported how much Giants brass liked and respected Flores, and have for years, so this suit seems to be somewhat of a reach to me, at least as far as the Giants are concerned. Ross offering $100k to lose stinks to high heaven though.

  69. The coaches can hire whoever they want to. You got an interview and didn’t get it Life isn’t fair sometimes. That isn’t a lawsuit sorry

  70. Does anybody really think that the Raiders were going to hire Mayo or Bowles? They wanted Josh McDaniels all along. The Rooney rule has good intentions but it is flawed. The rule forces teams to interview prospects they never has any intention of hiring. These men deserve more than to be used as pawns just so these teams can abide by “the rule”.

  71. Of course this was going to happen. It is just fine to over staff your team with one race/ethnicity at double or triple their rate of the general population, but dare you fail to hire someone of that same race at higher levels (making less money than the players), that deserves to be a lawsuit. Someone’s nose is out of joint. There likely was a serious opportunity prior than this fake racist claim, but I can guarantee you he won’t be hired in the pros after this. He did himself a disservice. I am all for hiring the best candidate possible – if team owners are stupid, that is their crime. Not racism.

  72. What he seems to be saying is that the Rooney Rule results in lots of sham interviews, which many of us have been saying right here for years, including the PFT writers. “Token” interviews for compliance when you already know who you want is an insult to the very qualified minority prospects that are out there. Not sure if suing is the way to fix this problem, but we’ll see. It’s fascinating to think about where this could end up!!

  73. Flores is a straight shooter. Enomously talented.

    One of his greatest strengths as a coach, in Miami & New England, was his committment to preparation. Meaning that by choosing to act now, he and his legsl team are ready for battle.

    The NFL is antebellum level racist.

    If the league is lucky, Flores’ suit will succeed and drag the league willingly ir not into the 21st century.

  74. Unless there will be a clause in his settlement, he will easily be hired back by the Patriots. He will coach again. He’s too good not to. The question will be who all will join the class action? Bieniemy has been similarly screwed.

  75. I’ve always been confused by the “I’m not hired due to the color of my skin” followed by “I should be hired due to the color of my skin”.

  76. Half of us who have something to say on this topic will find our comments never made it into the thread. I doubt what I am writing right now will make it.

    That’s what happens when you are speaking truth to power.

  77. Even if everything he says is true, it’s not proof of systemic racism or probably even anything illegal. A violation of NFL rules, perhaps. But civil liability? That’s ridiculous. Of course teams are going to try to get around the Rooney rule, because it’s ineffective and a nuisance. It forces teams to consider factors other than merit, which if they actually do that, dilutes the overall talent pool. That means it increases the chance of hiring a minority coach who may not be qualified or as qualified, which then leads to his firing a few years later. I get it, he should be frustrated because he probably didn’t deserve to be fired. Teams may not have e given him a fair look. But proving it’s because of racism? Good luck with that.

  78. Didn’t see this one coming. Wow. Guess that prolly rules him out for any openings this year. Who would want the Media circus around their club?

  79. The Rooney Rule makes this kind of thing certain to happen: Teams MUST interview a candidate of color and Flores is looking for interviews. He is going to run into this, as is any coach of color, as long as the Rooney Rule exists. For his suit to have merit I would assume he needs to prove that teams passed on him because of his race. Now THAT is going to be hard to do since the criteria are almost entirely subjective.
    If the league is serious about hiring more black coaches they need to do a better job of training people for being interviewed. It could be that Flores and others simply are not doing as good of a job in presenting themselves as quality candidates.
    He is a good coach that deserved better than he received from Miami. At this point his reputation is going to be as a self proclaimed victim and a trouble maker. That is a shame.

  80. tomthebombtracy says:
    February 1, 2022 at 4:40 pm
    You could see this coming like a Buffalo storm warning in February.

    “Yeah, just hire the right person!” That’s what apologists say.
    About 25% of the NFL hires “the right person” every year and most of those people are not of color.

    If 60% of players are of color, how can only 1/32snd be coached by someone of that same race?

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    So do white players get to do the same because there are less of them in the league? Or are there less because there less talented. Same works for coaching

  81. The giants know the dolphins gm that butted heads with the coach. I really doubt the giants new gm wanted to deal with that headache and likely just wanted daboll the whole time anyway. Blame the Rooney rule for this.

  82. This racism cry is getting SO old. How many MILLIONAIRE minorities has the NFL created? INCLUDING FLORES!

  83. So…he’s suing because the Rooney Rule got him interviews that he may not have otherwise gotten? How about stop whining, go blow them away in the interview and make them think twice about not hiring you?

  84. A NFL owner should be able to choose who they want to run their multi billion dollar franchise. The NFL makes teams interview minority coaches so of course people of all races are interviewed and not hired. Just because you are black doesn’t mean you should automatically get hired. You don’t see Asian, Latin, etc pulling the race card constantly. He made millions being a HC, doesn’t sound too bad to me.

  85. He just Kaepernick-ed himself. Whatever happened to hiring the most qualified person for the job? Whatever happened to hiring the person who the owner felt most comfortable in? Whatever happened to hiring the person who gives the team the best chance to succeed? I don’t care if that person is white, black, brown, purple, green, gay, straight, bi, trans, etc. If they can take a team to the SB, that’s the bottom line. These are 32 businesses who are all aiming for success.

  86. Couple of things here:
    First, if there’s actually racism happening (i.e. we’re not hiring Xxxx Yyyyyyy because he’s black)… then it should be rooted out into the light.

    Second, if you have an institutionalized rule that REQUIRES a team to interview minorities “before” they hire a non-minority that is basically ASKING for sham interviews. Go ahead and ask some of the black coaches that are interviewed over and over by teams who have no interest in hiring them every single off season how beneficial it was to them. The NFL is a small world. Everyone “knows everyone”. Candidates have artificially inflated interview numbers or “interest” and eventually it becomes a “what is wrong with this guy?” type of scenario. Even if that’s not a real issue.
    For example, let’s say Sean Payton actually wants to coach for the Cowboys. Pretend for a moment that the Saints don’t hold his rights. Jerry wants to hire him and will only hire him and is only making a coaching change specifically TO hire him. Isn’t he also required to interview a minority in that process? And regardless of this contrived example, this exact thing is playing out all over the league each off season. Would it surprise any person here to learn that some veteran minority coach like Jim Caldwell isn’t actively looking for a coaching job, but agreeing to check boxes for a team who knows who they already want to hire? That’s the kind of stuff that happens when you make discriminatory, silly rules. Both sides know it’s a sham in a lot of cases so they just go through the motions.

  87. That $100K to lose thing is explosive. Wait ’til Florio writes a piece on that. This is HUGE news.

  88. Man just torpedoed his career. I’m dumbfounded. Even if he’s 1000% right, that won’t change the fact he’s coached his last game in the NFL. I am simply dumbfounded by this

  89. THE NFL is a private organization. I have a hard time believing the owners are racist. Do they have biases probably. Could it be an issue of not enough black guys are into coaching with less then 13% of the population and a much smaller subset of that as a candidate- much more likely. Owners want to win. They also want the best candidate for the job regardless of color. Are some owners stupid and a poor judge of talent, obviously but that doesn’t make them racist.

  90. I suppose this shines the light on some behind the scenes conversations… no wonder he got fired.

  91. Let me preface this by saying I HATE Stephen Ross… but 1) What does wanting to tank have to do with racism and how is it illegal? 2) If that “prominent QB” was Watson… hadn’t the Texans granted permission for the Dolphins to talk to him multiple times? 3) While I agree with the stupidity of the Rooney rule… it also gave Flores the access to get the Dolphins job in the first place didn’t it?

  92. I anticipate a settlement, a large fine for Ross and some kind of league front office job.

  93. Pretty sure the Broncos hired Vance Joseph from Miami about 4 years ago. Good luck winning that one big guy.

  94. I personally don’t know the man. That being said, he’s coming off as entitled to me. He expects to be hired on the spot? I’ve interviewed for jobs, some I got, some not. I learned from it, and grew. My interview skills improved from each one.

  95. The Rooney Rule requires all teams to interview minority candidates. It does NOT require any of them to hire those candidates.

    Flores will not be able to prove racism. The only thing he may be able to prove are the tampering charges and the order to tank games…but only if FLores kept evidence to prove it.

    I thought that Flores was a good coach. This action will tank his career.

  96. It is interesting how so many comments are not about if what he said is true or not about the NFL, but they are upset that he called the NFL out on their racist policy in public. Why are they not upset about the policy? It is because they know what he is saying is true and now they want to deflect attention from this issue. I like the fact that Flores refused to used by the NFL in this game they love to play with black coaches.

  97. Dummy Thought : Oh his NFL Coaching Career is over

    Measured Thought : He obviously put thought into this…came off making what…$15-$20 million from the Dolphins gig…and decided to take a stand. I can see where he is coming from…and dude ain’t wrong either…

    signed,

    White Guy

  98. Simply put….Flores Career….exit stage left….HE IS TOAST will never get hired again OR the NFL will pull strings to get him a head coaching gig to drop the lawsuit….for a league that is worth so much money teams continue to do stupid things!

  99. On the surface, I can believe the Miami-part of the story. It wouldn’t surprise me if the team owner was trying to get Flores to lose games and improperly engage with a certain player on another team while still being under contract with that other team. What really lost him credibility is when he started making claims of being the token interviewee with the Giants and Broncos. Because he was not hired does not mean because of race. We see teams fall in love with coaches and GM’s they want. But the NFL policy turns minorities into tokens when teams want a certain coach or GM. Is it right? It is their decision about whom they see are being a fit for their team. When Flores was fired, I was shocked. Here is a man who had changed the fortunes of Miami as the franchise was moving in the right direction. If there is any cause for suit, it was his wrongful termination in my view.

  100. Damn! He is not stupid. He knows very well that suing will make him radioactive for most teams and he might not get to be HC again.
    Flores is a legit quality coach and for him to take this step he must really feel he has been wronged.

  101. So this is what Ross meant when he said he didn’t communicate well with people. He told him to throw games and he didn’t say “Yes Massah”. Poor communication. If he has any of this in writing – Jeff Bezos welcome to the NFL.

  102. in ozwetrust said “The Rooney rule has good intentions but it is flawed” he’s right
    kinda like announcing to the world you are only going to nominate a black female judge to the supreme court. some say well-intended, but clearly flawed
    neither situation changes peoples hearts and minds.

  103. The NFL player population consists of 65%-70% black men. Society in America has roughly 7% black men. So if the NFL was racist, I am sure this would not be the case.

  104. I’m sick of seeing what’s been done to black coaches in this league. The Rooney rule was meant to have a positive impact on the league and instead has been turned into a running joke. It’s ridiculous. And before you attack me for this comment consider these names, their tenures and their records upon being fired. Flores-Culley-Wilks-Morris-Joseph-Caldwell. All Fired under 4 years some within 2 years of being hired. They’re all good coaches with proven track records. Not saying it doesn’t happen to white coaches. But when an owner and GM sees a person that doesn’t look like them they give very little leeway. And that’s just wrong. Meanwhile career loser HCs like McDaniels and Gase continue to get jobs. And don’t get me started on Bienemy and Staley getting snubbed every year.

  105. The Rooney rule needs to go. It serves no purpose then to get minority candidates hopes up that they will actually get the job. It’s time has passed.

  106. So offering him more money to lose, while unethical and maybe illegal, is racist?

    And are we to assume dsboll didn’t deserve the job?
    And wasn’t Miamis GM who fired him black?

    I really confused about the racist part

  107. Didnt the giants interview Leslie Frazier also?

    Kind of puts a whole in the im only here for the rooney rule thing

  108. I’m sure this is exactly what the NFLPA and Owners were thinking when they instituted the Rooney Rule. Nice work you idiots.

  109. Why the Broncos? Does he not realize that the head coach of the Broncos before Fangio was a black man named Vance Joseph??

  110. The most damning thing in this is the Belichick text.. if the Giants let it slip that they weren’t going to hire Flores and asked him for a meeting anyway (and he can prove it).. that’s proof of bad faith on the part of the Giants and could be actionable.. everything else (especially the Broncos?) comes off as entitled conjecture to me.

  111. White coaches that get called into interview and do not get the job have nothing to fall back on, blaming race is like the last ditch effort. The NFL has done nothing but promote the race injustice equality etc, through their commercials, their announcers lecturing, their slogans allowed on elements and endzones. How do you use race when look on the field alone the differential of races playing the game. So if is not a race thing when picking best player than it should be same standard for picking coaches. who the owner feels can do the job THEY want

  112. ‘Systemic’ would imply that holistically all/most NFL owners ARE racist, and racist to the extent that they are willing to diminish their chances for success (more $$) just in order to keep blacks out of coaching. Given the single focused pressure to win at all costs, it’s hard to believe this is systemic. Seems like any owners who were truly doing this, would be outliers.

  113. buzzy says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:22 pm
    The Rooney rule needs to go. It serves no purpose then to get minority candidates hopes up that they will actually get the job. It’s time has passed.

    ______________________________

    While I agree the concept is pathetic and stupid.. it’s also needed and proven. Minority coach hiring skyrocketed after it was put in place.

  114. Amazing that all of you “fans” are saying you don’t “like” him anymore, just because he’s telling the truth.

    All of you who take that stance “ARE” the problem, you don’t want him to tell the truth and make changes to systemic racism because you SUPPORT the systemic racism.

    Cowards…

  115. If there was no Rooney rule, Giants wouldnt have wasted Brian Flores’s time. If there is no Rooney rule, then the Giants are viewed as racist either way. This is all such a joke.

  116. He won’t coach in the NFL again, and he won’t be coaching at any major college programs, either. For him to think he had a realistic shot at the Giants job is silly anyway, because Schoen was going to hire his own guy Daboll. For the other teams, maybe he didn’t interview well. Maybe teams sensed he had a chip on his shoulder and he didn’t come across well. Either way, without some sort of ‘smoking gun’ evidence he’s going to have a hard time proving that teams didn’t hire him for racist reasons. Even if he wins, which seems pretty unlikely, will anything really change? No one can force any team to hire a minority head coach. If other coaches join the lawsuit and they end up getting some money I would think all it will do will be to set the bar higher and make it tougher for minority candidates.

  117. He better hope the Texans hire him. Whether he’s right or not, what an idiotic thing to do.

  118. Were those texts from Belichick really accidental? Or did Belichick know exactly what he was doing?

  119. dj12gauge says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:22 pm
    Didnt the giants interview Leslie Frazier also?

    Kind of puts a whole in the im only here for the rooney rule thing

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    They also interviewed their own DC who is black. That’s 3 black candidates instead of the required 2. Dolphins were right, Flores is difficult to work with.

  120. Yeah, He done!
    I would say XFL or USFL but no one is going to want to risking hiring someone who has turned on their employers in this manner… Likely has made himself ‘untouchable’!

  121. For the Dolphins sake, I hope there is no email or other written proof of the $100k bonus for losses.

  122. He should have been fired mid-season when he lost 7 games in a row which is due to bad coaching, and it was a good reason to fire him at the end of the season.

    The Rooney rule is only about getting minorities interviews to get names circulating nothing about being hired. The courts could do an affirmative action style ruling but the NFL is already close to population stats for minority hires (though the players are heavily skewed towards minorities so that might need to be evened out per population stats) except they are very short on women players and coaches at all levels.

  123. This guy is a perfect example of how the NFL is not racist. He was a LB at BC. That’s it. Yet he got a job on an NFL team, was promoted again and again, and ended up having one of the 32 most coveted jobs in football. He went 24-25 in 3 years and got fired. Sounds like anything but racism to me.

  124. The Rooney rule which is a joke. only says you have to interview blacks which again is stupid. Its racist in that it specifies someone of color. Why not interview an asian, one arab, a hispanic. Where do blacks get the consideration that its all about them. Ironic that colleges have no problem discriminating against asians over blacks but asians are in the minority class too.
    The problem, you get fired by one team no matter your color your not automatically on the popularity chart. Why would I jump to interview someone who just got canned without knowing the full story first.

  125. I just want to make it known.
    Stephen Ross, if you’re reading this, I am willing to come lose as many games as you want me to for $100,000 per. In fact, I’ll do it for half that. Will also talk to any QB you want me to, don’t care what rules I’d be breaking. Just tell me where to sign.

  126. This makes the Jon Gruden law suit look like a parking ticket. By the way, confirmed prominent quarterback was Brady when he was under contract with New England.

  127. Lots of systemic racism in the comments. Most white people don’t get it. I’m white, and took the time to understand. Our country is divided and will be conquered if we don’t quit the relentless shaming. We all have much in common and could easily get together and be great.

  128. And people wonder why Mitch Trubisky was selected #1 and Mahomes and Watson were selected much later

  129. nydre4 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:27 pm
    If there was no Rooney rule, Giants wouldnt have wasted Brian Flores’s time. If there is no Rooney rule, then the Giants are viewed as racist either way. This is all such a joke.

    ____________________

    Take your fan goggles off for a second… if the Giants acted in bad faith and it can be proven.. they both violated the spirit of the rule, and caused an actionable offense against FLores.. how much is his time being wasted worth.. I have no idea.. but if he can prove it was done in bad faith the Giants should settle ASAP.

  130. Man, I love this guy as a coach and was looking forward to seeing where he landed. I just wish he was willing to play the game a little longer. Mike Tomlin, for example, is an amazing coach and a helluva role model in the black community. I’m sure he has to bite his tongue every day and tolerate things that white people in this country can’t comprehend. But he works within the system and has a ton to show for it. Probably similar to a lot of successful black people operating in a society stacked against them. Brian could have followed Tomlin’s path and even achieved his success, but now he’s probably locked out of the game for life. Such a bummer. But kudos for standing up for what he believes is right. Just wished it didn’t come at the expense of his wildly promising career.

  131. buffalo69 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:30 pm
    This makes the Jon Gruden law suit look like a parking ticket. By the way, confirmed prominent quarterback was Brady when he was under contract with New England.

    ________________________

    Brady was FA when he went to Tampa and it was very obviously DeSaun Watson.. which I believe (correct me if I am wrong) the Dolphins had permission to talk to while negotiating a trade.

  132. “Hello, Mr Flores? Yeah, we won’t be needing that second interview after all. Good luck to you.”

  133. If the Supreme Court rules that affirmative action is illegal, what does that do to his case?

  134. Hey news, if your black you have to be a good coach. If your white or pink or green, you have to be a good coach. Take on the owner or GM and get defiant that they cant fire you or they should mind their own business and if your white, pink, green, of black, your probably getting canned. How is that racist.
    Did he mention the year long pissing contest he was in with management over Tua? Did he mention that he burned some bridges down over tua. Did he mention that he became a pain in the ass over tua. ANd he is calling the race card?

  135. The Rooney Rule is by definition, racist.

    Forcing teams to interview someone based on their skin color. Yes. It really is that simple. That IS racism.

  136. Hope B Flo gets compensated and never work in NFL again; although he deserves to.

    Imagine hockey with 85 percent minority coaches and owners.

  137. Owners strive to hire best person for the position, period. I think the NFL has covered their bases even if some organizations pay little regard to the spirit of the Rooney rule. Flores was handsomely compensated as are many. many qualified diverse employees. These are high paying, equal-opportunity positions coveted by a top pool of talent. Shame on Coach Flores. Life isn’t always fair but he was doing pretty good for himself up to now. Looks like a huge miscalculation and sour grapes to me. Maybe he’s after a eight-figure settlement. The big winners are the lawyers as usual.

  138. If Mel Tucker is worth $100mil in Lansing, I reckon Flores will land just fine on his feet in the college game.

  139. Sell the team to The Manning’s! Plain and simple. Bye bye Ross . He is a crappy owner and the dolphins deserve better so do there fans!

  140. Why is Ross paying him $100,000 per loss racist? And yes, the Rooney Rule forces teams to do sham interviews with black coaches before hiring any white coach. That’s why the Rooney Rule is so insane.

  141. thatsrightmike says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:34 pm
    If the Supreme Court rules that affirmative action is illegal, what does that do to his case?

    __________________________________________

    Nothing? At all? What you just basically asked is “if government raises taxes, does that mean I don’t have to go to school anymore?” lol

  142. Sell the team bring back Flores cause if he was expected to lose and still won hes a hell of a head coach in my book!

  143. Good for Brian Flores for speaking up and speaking the truth. While it will most likely cost him any future employment in the NFL, it’s further proof that the NFL is a corporate fraud and scam.

    Another case was the City of St. Louis against Kroenke/NFL.

    It will be very interesting how the NFL responds to this and what spin they will put on it.

    It’s been very clear since day one that the Rooney Rule is a complete joke and does more harm than good.

  144. Throwing in the allegations of intentionally losing games on the Dolphins just cost him class action status for the lawsuit. For a class action to be viable commonality of facts have to predominate. His lawyer has made a terrible mistake. If I’m the judge, his motion to certify a class is DENIED.

  145. If he has “destroyed coaching career”, it wreaks of the same position the NFL hasten on Colin Laepernick. “If you speak out against racism, you will be banned”. Shocking and appalling!!

  146. heretheygoagain says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:16 pm
    It is interesting how so many comments are not about if what he said is true or not about the NFL, but they are upset that he called the NFL out on their racist policy in public. Why are they not upset about the policy? It is because they know what he is saying is true and now they want to deflect attention from this issue. I like the fact that Flores refused to used by the NFL in this game they love to play with black coaches.

    This is the best post on this subject. Perfect, spot on.

  147. Did he take the extra $100,000 a game per loss? That’s what I want to know. How come he’s not filing on behalf of Hispanics?

  148. >Lots of systemic racism in the comments. Most white people don’t get it. I’m white, and took the time to understand. Our country is divided and will be conquered if we don’t quit the relentless shaming. We all have much in common and could easily get together and be great.

    This is part of the issue. You see everything as racist thought. I see it as maybe he was not the best fit or coach for the job and it is the OWNERS right as the OWNER to employ who he or she wants. BUT because he is black everyone else is a racist. make sense how?

  149. He claims that the Broncos conducted a sham interview with him and hired white coach Vic Fangio. The year before that, Fangio was the defensive coordinator for the Bears and literally coached the #1 defense in the league as well as having decades of experience in the NFL as a coach. Flores had zero head coaching experience at that point and was a position coach for the Patriots. Exactly how was Flores more qualified than Fangio? In any event he was hired by the Dolphins shortly thereafter. So, how was this racist and how did it damage him? Correct answer-it didn’t.
    Also, regarding the allegations of being requested to tamper with a veteran QB and take bribes to tank games. He better have lots of documentation and witnesses. This looks like a money grab to me.

  150. I’m no labor relations expert, but it seems to be that suing everyone connected with the league, when you want to be one of only 32 head coaches, is…..counter intuitive.

  151. What no body is asking is this….. How far back does this scandle go? Gase Philbin etc.. Bill Parcels! How far back does this go? Day 1 of Ross’s ownership? I think fans that payed to watch this team lose needs to be compensated as well!

  152. And…at the risk of pointing out the obvious…by suing, he’s breaking out the kryptonite. Nobody will want to hire this guy now.

    In the minds of many, he’s proving right every person who ever said he was hard to work with.

  153. Even IF it was a sham interview, that doesn’t mean it was racist. If they knew they wanted Daboll all along and also knew they had to interview a number of minority coaches, then that’s the way it is.

  154. And what is the reason Eric Bienemy doesn’t get hired? One of the best offensive minds in the game? And don’t say it’s a lack of coaching experience, because a lot of these new hires don’t have experience either.

  155. To those who think systemic racism doesn’t exist… Warren Moon, a QB with almost 70,000 combined passing yards between the CFL and NFL… a HOFer in two leagues… went undrafted and was told flat out “black men aren’t QB’s, you need to be reciever to make it in the NFL” (his hear say)… its just a literal fact that minorities have to work twice as hard (if not more) than white people in almost all aspects of life.

  156. This is a proud moment for a lot of us. Glad somebody with credentials stood up against the worst kept secret in the NFL and risked his job to do so. Just doesn’t make sense how a group of people who execute the X’s and Os at an elite level aren’t qualified to call the shots or run an organization. Just doesn’t make sense.

  157. I mean he has a below .500 winning percentage. While I am open to the idea of discrimination I also think it’s equally possible he simply isn’t the best candidate.

    Additionally, I would consider it “rare” that a head coach gets fired and immediately transitions to another head coaching gig. And that would be true regardless of skin color.

  158. I think Brian Flores is a bad example.. there are much better Black coaches out there getting passed up for bums. That is likely were he chose to do it as a Class action. Mike Tomlin is the perfect example of the Rooney Rule working, Lebeau was considered the HC in waiting but Tom blew them away in the interview process..but that assume the team take the rule seriously. If you question the implementation of the Rooney rule, that’s fine, but if you think being force to interview a minority is rasict, well you probably also consider yourself a “legacy American”

  159. So he made enough to retire. Got shafted by an owner (who hasn’t been there), and now he’s the man for taking a stand? His previous track record shows he should’ve never been hired as a head coach. He would have been the man had he taken a stand when he was broke. Then this would have more credibility. He absolutely can’t work in the NFL again because he is suing them. I understand there are not a lot of black head coaches, you would have to be blind not to notice, however, there are a ton of black employees, coaches, trainers, and some Gm’s. But he had to l;ump everybody together. Could have sued the Dolphins and the Giants. Can he prove any of this, doubtful. I would assum after WFT issues nobody emails or texts anymore. Is there a witness to the 100K deal he was offered? If not it doesn’t matter.

    Those of you that call this the good ol boy network are oblivious to the many many changes owners have made in recent years.Completely oblivious. It isn’t right yet, and the Rooney rule is and will always be a joke. But they are working on fixing it.

  160. I don’t mind the lawsuit, it’s probably true in many instances going back many years. I do think a comparison to plantations is ridiculous. Also, as a coach aren’t you profiting off the same blood, sweat and tears of the players as the owners?

  161. I think everyone here is missing the point. I would think he thought this out because this will end his coaching career. This whole Rooney rule is a SHAM. the NFL still operates as the OLD BOY NETWORK. I’ve seen more coaches recycled in the NFL than any other league. How is Eric BEINIMY NOT A head coach? If he were white teams would wait for KC season to end to interview him. I’m sure this isn’t easy on Flores but the NFL needs to stop the Sham. It’s your team OWNERS do as you want but don’t pretend. 1 black coach in the NFL (Pittsburg) and he is amazing. they can hire a 34-year-old to coach the RAMS but not the offensive Genius behind one of the best offensive teams in the last 4 years?? Help me understand that. If it’s not racism..

  162. As for the Rooney rule, if I was black I would hate that rule. You have to interview me? Why can’t you just interview me because I am worthy? And please don’t give me ther Eric Bieniemy’s of the world who have such a checkered past they should be lucky to have the job they have, black or white.

  163. The real nation RAIDER NATION is about real diversity! Stay coaching the game you love come Coordinate our Defense go Raiders!

  164. Some one said the packers coaching staff is all white, now I can not find it.. well if you see this look up the packers coaching staff..

  165. Is it the Giants fault that there is a stupid rule REQUIRING them to interview a minority candidate?

  166. Seems to me that unless Daboll actually signed a contract before Flores was interviewed, then “deciding to hire” Daboll is legally meaningless.

    “Systemic racism” is a high bar. There are probably 10x as many white coaches as black coaches who go un-hired each year, and only a few HC openings.

    The pipeline of black coaches seems to be growing fast, more are in coordinator and assistant roles than ever before. It’s clearly changing, but apparently not fast enough for some.

  167. The United States has a African American population of around 13%, with men around 7%.

    Since the “woke” era began, they now want 50% representation in everything from movies to commercials and now coaching jobs.

    To accomplish these goals, the largest minority demographic (latinos) continue to be under represented in these areas.

    A job based in merit should never consider the color of one’s skin. And Flores had a losing record against teams with a winning record and enjoyed some luck along the way. His downfall was his entitlement, slow starts and absolutely NO VISION on offense. 3 years, 4 OCs and no continuity in any of the systems.

    Sparano took a 1 win team and went to the playoffs his 1st year. He was still fired in year 3. Race didn’t matter. Maintaining consistent mediocrity was his and Philbin and Gase problem.

    As a Miami fan, this guy has lost alot of goodwill except from the usual crowd (woke).

  168. I really don’t need to add anymore to this then what many have already said, but its a money grab! This guy was a bad coach and apparently just a bad person! He deserved to be fired. Move on Brain and be happy you got the opportunity to coach in the NFL.

  169. I don’t see anyone complaining that there is not enough black owners of teams in the NFL. That’s because they never submit to buy one! Yet they want to be GM’s and Coaches! Not a thing of being qualified! It’s a personal preference who I choose to coach my team! This isn’t some mandated percentage of there is 32 teams so there must be X amount of Black coaches! How come there s not more white receivers and running backs then! Nobody complains that there is not enough white players in the NBA, maybe minorities just don’t have all the qualities for the job!

  170. What a great way to light your career on fire. His case would have a lot more merit if he wasn’t just fired from an NFL team for under performing.

  171. The Rooney Rule is disrespectful to black coaches and GM candidates. It may give them exposure and experience with the interview process but imagine walking into an interview feeling like you’re there to fulfill some quota and aren’t being seriously considered for the position. The rule was created with good intentions but Flores is right in calling the rule a sham. Maybe he can land a college gig but he has certainly destroyed his career in the NFL.

  172. Per the Rooney Rule, the Giants had to interview a minority candidate. So what if they preferred Dabol. If they preferred Flores would Dabol get to sue for racism? Giants met the conditions and hired whom they wanted to hire, their right.
    As for Ross offering cash for tanking and recruiting another team’s QB, while those actions may be wrong on so many levels, that’s not racism; would have to presume that Ross would have done the same given the circumstances with any HC of the Phins at that time.

    My initial reaction was “good for Flores”, but the more I’ve digested this, it could be argued that Flores now has shown a pattern of acting out when he doesn’t get his way…and this lawsuit sort of seems to be an emotional reaction and using the woke “racism is everywhere” mantra of today…not exactly the temperament that a HC should have; black, white, blue, green.

  173. jeremy3186 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:50 pm
    To those who think systemic racism doesn’t exist… Warren Moon, a QB with almost 70,000 combined passing yards between the CFL and NFL… a HOFer in two leagues… went undrafted and was told flat out “black men aren’t QB’s, you need to be reciever to make it in the NFL” (his hear say)… its just a literal fact that minorities have to work twice as hard (if not more) than white people in almost all aspects of life.
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    You act as if Warren Moon is in his 20s and was just drafted. He was told that, or at least claims he was told that, but that happened in the 1970s not in the 2020s. No one cares what color you are in todays society they care about what talent you can bring to your chosen career field. Racism is largely dead in America, the vast majority of Americans outside of a few minority mouth breathers aren’t racist. If you can’t make it todays America that’s on you.

  174. Wow, I just can’t believe all the racist views here.

    If you guys were required to show your faces along with your views, there would be a ton of members here out of a job. Disgusting.

  175. I’m a diehard Dolphins fan since 1973. Everything has been said about the Rooney rule and lawsuit. Sort it out in court.

    But about the Dolphins, when they fired Flores it showed winning games was not even on their agenda now. Flores did an *amazing* job with the rosters he had. All the posters say ‘his record was 24 – 25’, but Vince effing Lombardi wouldn’t have won a single game with that 2019 roster. It was full of street FAs starting. Flores won five.

    After twenty years the Dolphins finally picked another winner head coach, and they fired him for being bad at ass-kissing. Well the Dolphins can kiss my ass. They have been bleeding fans for years, and when the next Adam Gase Offensive Genius hire has a losing record next season, nobody here will even care.

  176. Didn’t Vic Fangio replace Vance Joseph? If I am not mistaken, Joseph is African-American

  177. kevpft says:
    February 1, 2022 at 6:05 pm

    “Systemic racism” is a high bar. There are probably 10x as many white coaches as black coaches who go un-hired each year, and only a few HC openings.

    The only issue i have with your post is that you throw out the 10x as many white coaches that dont get hired.

    Yeah i mean it shows you that there is that many more white coaches out there that are interviewed.

    Right now there is how many black head coaches? 1?

    Let’s be honest the dolphins were a joke until flores got there. He was one game under .500 the dolphins havent had a winning record since when?

  178. I guess Flores hasn’t been paying attention to the fact the Woke movement is dead. You can tell by the arrow on here. Just another man that’s impossible to deal with, now suing like a baby. To little to late.

  179. turdferguson98 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 6:14 pm
    jeremy3186 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:50 pm
    To those who think systemic racism doesn’t exist… Warren Moon, a QB with almost 70,000 combined passing yards between the CFL and NFL… a HOFer in two leagues… went undrafted and was told flat out “black men aren’t QB’s, you need to be reciever to make it in the NFL” (his hear say)… its just a literal fact that minorities have to work twice as hard (if not more) than white people in almost all aspects of life.
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    You act as if Warren Moon is in his 20s and was just drafted. He was told that, or at least claims he was told that, but that happened in the 1970s not in the 2020s. No one cares what color you are in todays society they care about what talent you can bring to your chosen career field. Racism is largely dead in America, the vast majority of Americans outside of a few minority mouth breathers aren’t racist. If you can’t make it todays America that’s on you.

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    If im not mistaken different teams had asked Lamar Jackson to switch out of QB to WR and they would draft him. Baltimore was the only team that believed in him as a QB.

  180. And a lot of people think Harbaugh is headed to Miami? To an owner who would pay to lose? After this, there aren’t going to be any players or coaches who’ll want to go there.

  181. Roger Alston’s comment summed it up. The Rooney rule can be interpreted as an insult to those interviewing for an NFL HC job.

  182. nytro says:
    February 1, 2022 at 6:14 pm
    Wow, I just can’t believe all the racist views here.

    If you guys were required to show your faces along with your views, there would be a ton of members here out of a job. Disgusting.
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    A an ex NFL head coach, a MILLIONAIRE many times over now claims racist hiring policies because he’s mad he was fired and is forced back into the coordinator ranks decides to sue the NFL now, after he’s benefitted from his position for the last 20YRs and people see through it and call it out and that’s racist? I swear to god the left has taken all meaning out of the word racist. Everything is racist now a days. You could be the best person in the world but mess up one time and your life will be ruined. How many Africans Americans are in government? Who’s the VP of the USA? Who was the president of the US for 8 of the last 13 years? If the league truly was a racist league he never would of had a job. We would not see more black QBs than anytime in history.

  183. tomthebombtracy says:
    February 1, 2022 at 4:40 pm

    You could see this coming like a Buffalo storm warning in February.

    “Yeah, just hire the right person!” That’s what apologists say.
    About 25% of the NFL hires “the right person” every year and most of those people are not of color.

    If 60% of players are of color, how can only 1/32snd be coached by someone of that same race?
    …………………………

    I’s not about the hiring , it’s about the grief the comes with the inevitable firing , such as this instance .

  184. How can a league, where 70% of the players are Black (and let’s not kid ourselves, when “minority” in NFL-speak = “Black”), and has a rule where teams MUST interview a black candidate for an open HC position, be racist? If the league were racist, would 70% of the players be Black? Would there be a rule that discriminates everyone except Black Coaches who “must” be interviewed under the Rooney rule?
    Get rid of the discriminatory Rooney Rule and go by the merit system – cause that usually works for any Job.

  185. Colin Kaepernick has a better chance of getting another NFL job than Brian Flores after today.

  186. Coaches are hired on talent, then how come no one is questioning or suing for more white players on NFL teams. It is all about talent and winning. Color is not a factor, who is the best.

  187. DotarSupreme says:
    February 1, 2022 at 6:19 pm
    turdferguson98 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 6:14 pm
    jeremy3186 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:50 pm
    To those who think systemic racism doesn’t exist… Warren Moon, a QB with almost 70,000 combined passing yards between the CFL and NFL… a HOFer in two leagues… went undrafted and was told flat out “black men aren’t QB’s, you need to be reciever to make it in the NFL” (his hear say)… its just a literal fact that minorities have to work twice as hard (if not more) than white people in almost all aspects of life.
    ————————————————————————

    You act as if Warren Moon is in his 20s and was just drafted. He was told that, or at least claims he was told that, but that happened in the 1970s not in the 2020s. No one cares what color you are in todays society they care about what talent you can bring to your chosen career field. Racism is largely dead in America, the vast majority of Americans outside of a few minority mouth breathers aren’t racist. If you can’t make it todays America that’s on you.

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    If im not mistaken different teams had asked Lamar Jackson to switch out of QB to WR and they would draft him. Baltimore was the only team that believed in him as a QB.
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    If I’m not mistaken Lamar Jackson had real questions as a passer coming out of Louisville which is why he went 32nd overall. Teams make mistakes with picks every year. Anyone ask Cam Newton to switch positions? Kyler Murray? Both of whom went #1 overall in the last 10YRs. You can’t cherry pick names to fit your argument.

  188. daruckusbringa says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:49 pm
    And what is the reason Eric Bienemy doesn’t get hired? One of the best offensive minds in the game? And don’t say it’s a lack of coaching experience, because a lot of these new hires don’t have experience either.

    Xxxxxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxxxx

    Research his arrest record in Colorado. What billion dollar franchise wants to walk over those hot coals?

  189. The USFL is way ahead of the NFL on hiring…..8 HC’s in which 2 are black and 6 are old white geezers.

  190. Tom Brady went 199th overall. Must of been a racist conspiracy to keep the white man down.

  191. Systemic Racism. Learn that word people. Again an owner can do whatever tehy want it’s their team but stop the SHAM….

  192. All Stephen Ross had to do was order Flores to start Josh Rosen and they would have gotten Burrow. Dumb move offering him money and even dumber move not taking Herbert. I never get excited about this team anymore.

  193. He should have talked with Colin Kapernick and see what happens to your future in the NFL when you buck the league. Not smart at all. Brian Flores will never coach in the NFL again and that is said because I actually thought he could be a good one.

  194. Boy, white people get very upset when someone of color spills the beans.I am white, for years worked as a headhunter with some of the most well known companies in the world and they were so up front about not hiring minorities it was amost beyond belief, so don’t tell me this is hard to believe.
    White men, partiocularly man+y over 50 don’t even understand they have racial tendencies. You don’t have to be a KKK member to be a racist. They come in different levels. They may not want to harm people of color, they just may not want to work with them.

  195. And what is the reason Eric Bienemy doesn’t get hired? One of the best offensive minds in the game?
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    Really!? Have you met EB? Maybe he’s dumb, maybe he’s got a bad attitude, maybe he’s got BO, maybe he dressed like a bum, maybe he doesn’t know the x’s and O’s like he should, maybe he got a bad character reference, maybe maybe maybe.
    Point is we don’t know a damn thing, but to immediately jump to the problem being his skin color, especially when he’s interviewing with franchises that have already had black coaches, is just taking the lowest of low hanging fruit.

  196. Who wrote the court filing, Al Sharpton? When you use the term “plantation” to describe superstar, multi millionaires who are playing a prestigious GAME, you slander the millions of black people who were actually enslaved in plantations all across Democrat controlled southern America in the 19th century. Absolutely disgusting. This is 2020, not 1860.

  197. Not BuyingIt says:
    February 1, 2022 at 6:28 pm
    daruckusbringa says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:49 pm
    And what is the reason Eric Bienemy doesn’t get hired? One of the best offensive minds in the game? And don’t say it’s a lack of coaching experience, because a lot of these new hires don’t have experience either.

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    Research his arrest record in Colorado. What billion dollar franchise wants to walk over those hot coals?
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    I’d kinda like to see AZ hire Bienemy next year if they fire Kliff. Eric and Kyler together could be special. Part of me just worries he’s running the offensive game plans Reid designs, similar to how we’ve seen basically every Patriots coach fail when they take the training wheels off and go coach their own teams.

  198. Shame on the Giants for not having their ducks in a row regarding the interview process. If the Dolphins owner was offering him $ to lose and to skirt the rules about trying to get a certain QB, how is that racist? It’s sleezy, but I don’t see it as racist. Clearly there’s a lot more coming down the pipe on this one.

  199. OK so rather than take a demotion ( albeit well paid) he chooses to burn all bridges with the NFL. Does he think these rich owners will settle?? LOL. Not a smart move.

  200. For all the people that can’t think any further than where Florio leads them, here is a quick list of teams Eric B has interviewed with in the not so distant past: New York Jets, Chicago Bears, Indianapolis Colts, Miami Dolphins, Cincinnati Bengals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Houston Texans, Dallas Cowboys and Atlanta Falcons. Nearly every team on that list has had a black coach in the last decade. Yet we are still being told that EB can’t get hired due to the color of his skin. Ridiculous.

  201. Brian, it’s TOM BRADY DAY!! Could this news not have waited till tommarrow along with the new WFC name and helmet logo? Very poor timing.

  202. ESPN is reporting that Washington owner, Lil Napoleon Snyder, is incensed that the Dolphins’ owner would act in a way that out does Snyder-level of conduct.

  203. does anyone remember those emails that the Wash Football team has that selective leaks came out? Well this is a class action and every team will be asked in discovery for emails regarding all their interviews and that’s going to be embarrassing. Plus if the Pats lost a first round for filming the sidelines from the wrong angle then imagine what Miami is going to lose tampering with Brady and paying to lose.

  204. Every part of this is hilarious. Especially everyone dumbfounded by the notion the NFL is a loose fart away from being the WWE. It’s not real competition, people. It’s entertainment. Stop taking it so seriously.

  205. Pete Rose got a lifetime ban in baseball, because betting on games gave the appearance of conflict of interest and that had have incentive to change the outcome of games. In the NFL and the NBA, teams intentional throw games to get draft picks and everyone is ok with that? How does that work?

  206. Does this mean next season we are going to see players with ‘Brian Flores’ written on the back of their helmets?

  207. Surprised it took this long. The Rooney Rule has been a sham since its inception. Anyone who has ever been on a token interview should know the feeling of being in a room knowing you never really had a chance at the job. Interview, and hire, coaches based on their merit… not because they fill a quota.

  208. Come on people… he wasn’t going to ever coach in the NFL again before all this. He just isn’t NFL head coach material, or even coordinator material. He was just a bad hire by the Fins and is just trying to get money using the race card. Zero proof of the allegations against Miami. Move on!

  209. The NFL is the best reality show of them all. Just when you thought that the Brady retirement news was the top story…along comes this potential bombshell.

  210. The Rooney Rule was made on good intentions, but just be honest, it is literally wasting the time most people who interview. It doesn’t matter what color they are and most of the time the team already knows who they want anyway. A team should interview the people who they feel are the most qualified and the individuals who could possibly help their team the most irregardless of the color if their skin ir some racist diversity quota. This stupid idea of systemic racism and forced diversity is racist in itself. If anything, the NFL is 100% guilty of is the good ‘ol boys club of multicolored retreads. McCarthy failed big time, Hue Jackson was a waste of time, and Adam Gase was just a plain incompetent weirdo. Why should known failures continue to get multiple chances while there are so many young coaches of every color of the rainbow, but never get one chance to shine. The NFL doesn’t have a race problem, they have a “we’re just going to hire this circle of coaches over and over” problem.

  211. There is absolutely racism going on here.
    Flores accuses the Texans of “discriminatory” treatment of David Culley. The Texans hired Culley, a black man, whom had never been an OC or DC and then gave him $22M for his troubles. If that’s discrimination, sign me up for that!
    The racism here is from Flores, not the NFL; the Giants, Dolphins, Broncos, Texans, etc. Flores has bought into the mantra that because he’s black that he’s entitled to things that others are not (and is showing a pattern of being very difficult when he does not get his way, and throwing those whom have helped him, under the bus). History will view Flores as a prime example of the wokism cancel culture nonsense that’s currently being shoved down our throats; Flores will be on the wrong side of history.

  212. jeff29 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 6:33 pm

    Boy, white people get very upset when someone of color spills the beans.I am white, for years worked as a headhunter with some of the most well known companies in the world and they were so up front about not hiring minorities it was amost beyond belief, so don’t tell me this is hard to believe.
    White men, partiocularly man+y over 50 don’t even understand they have racial tendencies. You don’t have to be a KKK member to be a racist. They come in different levels. They may not want to harm people of color, they just may not want to work with them.
    ………………………………..
    It’s about after the person is hired , When he – doesn’t get a raise – is asked to take a pay cut – isn’t promoted – is demoted – is asked to re-locate for the firm – is fired – etc.

  213. It’s ok if we are the workers (Players) but looking at the majority of the people on this board you just don’t want us to be the bosses (Head Coaches). I’m not saying is 100% racism but I will tell you this is clearly some Unconscious Bias’s going on in the NFL. That’s why you have the same retread coaches getting hired

  214. Looking at the comments and the up/down votes, it’s clear to this white, mid 40s guy that the average NFL fan is racist as hell.

    I would not be surprised to hear Duce Staley join the suit and add the Eagles in there. They’ve used Duce as their in house Rooney rule the last two coaching cycles. This last cycles the whole locker room was clamoring for Duce to be HC.

    Duce got sick of the bs and took a job with the Lions.

  215. The Fins rub with Flores was that he was hard to get along with when he didn’t get his way. Guess this is the real proof.

  216. jeff29 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 6:33 pm

    Boy, white people get very upset when someone of color spills the beans.I am white, for years worked as a headhunter with some of the most well known companies in the world and they were so up front about not hiring minorities it was amost beyond belief, so don’t tell me this is hard to believe.
    White men, partiocularly man+y over 50 don’t even understand they have racial tendencies. You don’t have to be a KKK member to be a racist. They come in different levels. They may not want to harm people of color, they just may not want to work with them.
    ………………………………..
    I doubt what you said. If you worked for years and saw blatant racial discrimination which is a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and you didn’t do or say anything to anyone about it. You are a racist and a coward. What the companies were doing according to your charges were in violation of federal law.

  217. jeremy3186 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:50 pm
    To those who think systemic racism doesn’t exist… Warren Moon, a QB with almost 70,000 combined passing yards between the CFL and NFL… a HOFer in two leagues… went undrafted and was told flat out “black men aren’t QB’s, you need to be reciever to make it in the NFL” (his hear say)… its just a literal fact that minorities have to work twice as hard (if not more) than white people in almost all aspects of life.
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    Warren Moon wasn’t drafted because in college because in his college career he had a 48% completion percentage and a 19/17 TD to INT ratio in his career. He went up to Canada and learned how to play QB, and then the NFL paid him handsomely to play QB for the next 15 years. Who was the first QB drafted in the 1st round that same year? Doug Williams.

  218. Remember that Flores says he was asked to tank games! If he would of did just that then today he He would have Joe Burrow as his Qb! Isn’t he playing in the Superbowl this year! Flores should of listened to the owner!

  219. tomthebombtracy says:
    February 1, 2022 at 4:40 pm

    If 60% of players are of color, how can only 1/32snd be coached by someone of that same race?

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    Very few NFL head coaches played in the NFL. The pool of people who play in the NFL is not the same as people who coach in the NFL. Nearly every NFL head coached played college football. The racial demographics of college football players (all levels, many NFL head coaches played low level college football) is much different than players in the NFL.

  220. -White men, partiocularly man+y over 50 don’t even understand they have racial tendencies. You don’t have to be a KKK member to be a racist. They come in different levels. They may not want to harm people of color, they just may not want to work with them.-
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    If that’s your thought process, then you, sir, are a racist. Because of the fact that I was born in 1967 and white… I’m a racist? I’ve read about people like you, didn’t think it was really possible for an individual to be… that lost.

  221. Professional sports are dead. Thanks, woke culture. Are we going to have a “hurt my feelings” month coming up soon?

  222. Flores must prove that the Giants formally tendered an offer to new coach Daboll which Daboll had formally accepted before Flores’ dinner meeting with the Giants. And the Giants could easily counter with something like, “Yes, OK, we had already made our formal offer to Daboll but we were seriously considering bringing Flores into the organization in a job other than head coach and in fact our thought process before and during the dinner meeting discussion with Flores was oriented in that direction.” Flores has no argument.
    Flores also must prove that Ross offered him $100,000 per game to tank. Ross is not a billionaire because he is a dumb guy. No way Flores will be able to prove his charge against Ross.
    Brian Flores, you just threw a promising career into the garbage. You just earned yourself a career change into life insurance sales. Good luck.

  223. I like Flores and he did a good enough job to remain as HC. I’m not a big fan of the lawsuit though. If he’s suing the Dolphins that’s fine but his claims are going to be next to impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

    If Ross did what Flores said though he’s going to own the Dolphins before this is over….literally.

  224. He has ground on the tanking suit as it involves the integrity of the game. The racism part is a lost cause.

  225. Apparently the BB text came a few days before the Flores interview, so the interview wasn’t needed. I’d imagine most here would prefer not to interview for a job that they’d already hired someone for. Flores wasn’t needed to satisfy the Rooney Rule since Giants had interviewed Leslie Fraizer twice and also interviewed Patrick Graham their carryover DC.

    Giants probably thought they were avoiding bad PR by interviewing Flores even if their decision had been made.

  226. Over the past 100 years, around 110 people have owned controlling portions of NFL teams. Of that select group, all but two have been white.

  227. What’s the name of the lawsuit, Settlement vs Miami, Denver et AL? And why is it always typed, in America, the Black coach and the white coach?

  228. Following the blueprint Kap drew up. When a situation goes a certain way that isn’t productive for you, just throw the race card. Rooney Rule is a joke to begin with. If your qualified for the job you have an equal chance of getting the job, this race thing has been getting out of control.

  229. Trust me if the teams he coached had good records he’d still be HC like Mike Tomlin. Color has nothing to do with it.

  230. It is simple. 2 of his 3 claims are easily proveable. If he can even prove one, his other claims get harder to ignore. I happen to believe him, because the NFL is shady. Personally I disagree with the Rooney rule, as it trivializes minorities when an owner has their sites set. So that is easily believable. Look at Harbaugh, he pretty much has his Vikings gear on before the interview. And being paid to tank? It wont be the first or last time. I hope more people come out with proof of that.

  231. jeremy3186 says:
    February 1, 2022 at 5:23 pm

    The most damning thing in this is the Belichick text.. if the Giants let it slip that they weren’t going to hire Flores and asked him for a meeting anyway (and he can prove it).. that’s proof of bad faith on the part of the Giants and could be actionable..

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    Come on, job interviews happen all the time when those hiring have pretty much made up their mind that they are hiring an earlier candidate. The Giants didn’t have a contract in place with Daboll.

  232. If Troy Vincent admitted there’s a problem then the NFL has a serious problem with this suit.

    Especially with everything going on in America and the world today.

  233. Has everyone forgotten about Lovie Smith? He was an absolutely amazing coach for many years. He is still an associate head coach for the Houston Texans. Flores doesn’t realize that he is setting himself up. Who would hire him if they know that they can never fire him because he will play the race card? Sometimes you just aren’t the right fit for a team for what ever reason and he should know that. As grandma used to say, “If you don’t like the heat, get out of the kitchen”.

  234. Yes – this is damaging to Flores’ career. It’s a brave thing he’s doing, and it’s always amazing to me how many commenters rush to defend the billionaire owners. And the Rooney Rule is supposed to encourage the hiring of minority coaches. The fact that many teams make no effort to promote diversity is not the fault of the rule, it’s the fault of the Old Boy’s Club that is the NFL that will give a white coach multiple chances before they give a minority coach one.

  235. Indeed, one can take a millisecond glance at the NFL and immediately determine how racist this organization must be.

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