Brian Flores should not want Hue Jackson to join the lawsuit

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The 58-page lawsuit filed five days ago by former Dolphins coach Brian Flores mentions plenty of names and examples when it comes to the racial “double standard” (as admitted by NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent) in NFL coaching. Flores at no point mentions former Browns coach Hue Jackson.

That likely wasn’t a mistake. Beyond the fact that Hue simply wasn’t a very good coach is the fact that Hue has, in recent days, been all over the place, making strong accusations that he was paid to lose games and then clumsily walking them back. While it makes sense for Jackson to change his tune on cash-for-clunking if (unlike Flores) Hue actually took the money and thus committed a potential violation of federal law, Jackson has come off in recent days as far less credible than Flores. At times, Jackson has seemed not credible at all.

Multiple people in and around the sport and the industry of covering it have expressed both support for Flores and a hope that Jackson won’t join the case. Jackson, in our opinion, could operate as an impediment to Flores’s efforts.

Flores and his lawyers quite possibly know it. The Flores lawsuit cites Jim Caldwell, Steve Wilks, David Culley, Kris Richard, Teryl Austin, and Eric Bieniemy as victims of discrimination. Any of them would be viable candidates to join the Flores lawsuit. Jackson simply would not be.

Indeed, Jackson wasn’t fired after going 0-16 in 2017. The Browns had a multi-year strategy in place during Jackson’s tenure. It wasn’t as clear and direct as the scheme Flores alleges in Miami, but the Browns obviously weren’t prioritizing winning. And Jackson went along with it.

So if Jackson contacts Flores and wants to add his name to the title of the case, Flores should politely decline. Besides, if Jackson believes his rights were violated in some way, nothing stops him from filing his own lawsuit.

24 responses to “Brian Flores should not want Hue Jackson to join the lawsuit

  1. Jim Caldwell?!?!? He’s been a head coach twice and an OC. Like Flores, his case would have no merit.

  2. Heck with Cleveland, anybody who gave him more than an OC position after he pulled what he did in Oakland deserves what they got. The team didn’t even show up in a win-and-in against the Chargers last game of the season, and Hue promptly took the podium, blamed everything on the players and said he wouldn’t let it happen the following season. Supposedly a lot of the veterans went to Mark and told him not to retain Hue after that.

  3. If it’s about race, how do you eliminate the GMs that both Flores and Jackson worked under?

    Grier
    Flores

    Sashi Brown
    Hue Jackson

    And Flores yacht story sounds ridiculously made up.

  4. Caldwell wants nothing to do with Flores he showed that when they tried to put them together in Miami in 2019

  5. Flores went through 4 offensive coordinators in 3 years. Last year he promoted 2 position coaches to ‘co-offensive coordinators’ which goes against all logic. He was fired because he was a defensive coach who couldn’t or wouldn’t bring in a qualified OC and let them do their job.

  6. Agree that Hue Jackson would not help Flores’s case. In addition to the other coaches you mentioned, Byron Leftwich, Leslie Frazier, Aaron Glenn, Todd Bowles, Mel Tucker, Duce Staley, Teryl Austin have all been overlooked for HC jobs. Bring all these overlooked minority coaches into the lawsuit along with the failure by NFL owners to hire any of them and the 1 out of 32 teams with a minority HC. Put these facts in front of a civil trial jury and the odds are good they will side with Flores and these other minority coaches. In fact, long before this matter goes to trial the NFL would hire two of these coaches and attempt to settle with the plaintiffs out of court.

  7. If you are going to do what Brian Flores did in filing this suit, you really need to have your facts in order.

    The Dolphins hired Flores, of course, and also have a black GM. I’m not sure how you make the case that they are a racist organization.

    And then claiming the Belichick texts meant something sinister just seems silly.

    I thought Flores was a good coach and I’d like to see him hired by someone, but he’s gone way out on a limb here with no net.

  8. Listen, I agree with Flores about the difficult position coaches of color are put in. But I have an issue with Eric Bienemy as an example. There are sexual assault issues/reports in his past that is scaring off teams from hiring him as a HC despite his success in KC. Andy Reid may be comfortable having him on staff, but few organizations are in a spot to take on that type of PR risk.

  9. What’s the over/under on how long Hue will last at Grambling State? I give it 2 years before he’s back on ESPN trying to keep his name in the media. One thing is for sure, he ain’t no Coach Prime.

  10. Hue is the worst. He’s like Rudy. Trying to remain relevant by suggesting outrageous stories

  11. That would be an understatement. Hue “management/ownership knew we didnt have a wining team and paid me to coach anyway, therefore I was paid to lose too”

    As bad as Flores lawyers appear to be so far Ill assume not only will they not be adding Jackson to the case but they are likely upset he chimed in making everybody laugh at the matter.

  12. Only in America can a man be hired as a coach multiple times, make millions, get fired after 3 years with a losing record, then accuse racism…and no one questions it.

  13. 24 times in 20 years has a black coach been hired. Or 1.2 per year. For roughly 5 openings per year. Or 24%. The thing about “diversity” hiring is this: they never say what the goal is. Is it 40%? 50%? 70%? What about Hispanic coaches? Asian coaches?

  14. Ryan Poles, who is black, worked with Eric Bieniemy in Kansas City for several years. We’ve heard so much how Bieniemy is a victim of racial discrimination that when Poles got the GM job in Chicago you would expect that Bieniemy would be hired as the head coach. He wasn’t.

  15. jbcommonsense says:

    February 6, 2022 at 1:15 pm

    Agree that Hue Jackson would not help Flores’s case. In addition to the other coaches you mentioned, Byron Leftwich, Leslie Frazier, Aaron Glenn, Todd Bowles, Mel Tucker, Duce Staley, Teryl Austin have all been overlooked for HC jobs. Bring all these overlooked minority coaches into the lawsuit along with the failure by NFL owners to hire any of them and the 1 out of 32 teams with a minority HC. Put these facts in front of a civil trial jury and the odds are good they will side with Flores and these other minority coaches. In fact, long before this matter goes to trial the NFL would hire two of these coaches and attempt to settle with the plaintiffs out of court.

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    Lol you cant be serious? So in your words every minority should get a head coaching job or otherwise its racism? You haven’t shown why any of them are more qualified than who was hired. After all you mention both Bowles and Frazier who in 3 plus years as head coaches both won less than 40% of their game games continually got worse. Why are either of them more qualified for a head coaching job than someone such as Pederson who won a ring? How about that Leftwich supposedly wanted a new gm in Jacksonville before pulling his name out from consideration. Instead of saying they should have jobs why not analyze why they don’t or give a reason why they should be hired(other than their a minority)

  16. Swami, I am quite serious. My point isn’t that ALL of these coaches were not hired as HCs, it is that NONE of them were. And THAT pattern of consistent rejection puts the burden on the NFL owners to show why not.

  17. One black head coach in the NFL is embarrassing and evidence of race having an impact. Are some or a lot of the owners blatant racists? I have no idea. It may just be systemic racism or unconscious bias, but I know that if 70% of the players are black, and every current coach played at least In college, there certainly should be more than one black head coach.

  18. jbcommonsense says:

    February 6, 2022 at 6:12 pm

    Swami, I am quite serious. My point isn’t that ALL of these coaches were not hired as HCs, it is that NONE of them were. And THAT pattern of consistent rejection puts the burden on the NFL owners to show why not.
    ————
    And which of them deserved to be??? So coaches who deserve to be rejected based on their resumes were rejected, wheres the issue other than their minorities?? None of them have credentials that put them on par or above anyone that was hired and in fact some have shown they have resumes or egos to why they SHOULDNT be hired…your theory is if you go to an interview it’s on them to tell you why you didn’t get the job (if your a minority) which is not the case EVER especially when the names you listed clearly aren’t better than the ones hired.

  19. With the hiring of Ryan Poles in Chicago and Kwesi Adofo Mensah in Minnesota, there are now 5 black GMs running NFL teams.

    Who did these black GMs hire as head coaches?

    Let’s start with the new guys on the GM block.

    Ryan Poles sits in the GM chair for the Bears, taking over for fired Ryan Pace and HC Matt Nagy. Poles goes out and hire Matt Eberflus as HC, who is white.

    OK, how about Kwesi Adofo Mensah, the new GM for the Vikings? Well, all indications lead to Minnesota’s new black GM ready to hire Rams current OC Kevin O’Connell; white guy.

    Back in 2020 the Browns named Andrew Berry GM. Berry is black. Berry promptly hires then Vikings OC Kevin Stefanski… white.

    Ah, Martin Mayhew had been a GM for the Lions from 2008 to 2015, and he did hire Jim Caldwell, who is black. Mayhew took a break and was hired last season by Washington as GM, and decided to keep Ron Rivera as his head coach.

    Now for the source of this current wave of CRT in the NFL… Miami.
    Chris Grier is the current GM for Miami. Grier is black and accepted the GM job in 2016. Grier hired, sorry to say, Adam Gase as his head coach. Gase is white, and quite inept running a team. It was only a matter of time before Gase would non-coach his way to being fired by Grier, and that happened in 2019 when Grier hired Brian Flores away from the Patriots. Finally, a current black-black GM/HC hiring. Well, we all know Flores got canned after this 2021 season but seems no one is remembering that the black GM canned the black HC.
    During this Flores racial blowup the Dolphins have put 2nd round of interviews for replacement HCs, needing to go to the Senior Bowl to scout players. But the top candidates on GM Grier’s docket are, going from top priority and down:
    Mike McDaniel (OC, SF)… white
    Brian Daboll, now the Giants new HC… white
    Kellen Moore (OC, DAL)… white.

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