Giants’ words and action continue to conflict on Daniel Jones

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On one hand, the Giants are saying all the right things about Daniel Jones being their long-term answer at quarterback. On the other hand, they’ve yet to take the one specific action that would give their words true credibility.

They’ve yet to pick up the fifth-year option on Jones’s rookie contract.

That’s not a decision we’ve made as of yet,” Giants co-owner John Mara said Sunday, via Dan Duggan of “That’s a discussion we’ll be having over the next month or so.”

As new G.M. Joe Schoen explained during a visit to PFT Live at the Scouting Combine, the Giants plan to take advantage of their opportunity to learn more about Jones before making the decision.

“The advantage that we have is that with [Brian] Daboll being a new head coach, the players will be in the building on April 4th,” Schoen said on March 2. “We’ll get to have a chance to have a minicamp the week before the draft. Again, we’re going to take our time with the process. We’re going to be around Daniel. We’re going to get the chance to see him throw and work with the guys that we have. We don’t have to have a decision until May 2nd. We’re going to be patient with that decision.”

It makes sense. But it’s also hard to reconcile their hesitation with the repeated glowing remarks, including Sunday’s proclamation from Mara that the Giants believe they have a keeper in Jones.

The Giants have several options for proceeding. If they exercise the option, he’ll be under contract for 2023 at a fully-guaranteed salary of $23.384 million. If they wait — and if they change their mind about Jones — they’ll be able to walk away after 2022, with no further obligation. If they wait and then realize Jones is the guy, they’ll have to use the franchise tag (which will be in excess of $30 million next year) to keep him around for 2023.

They also could try to sign him to a long-term deal now, one that doesn’t have the franchise tag as a starting point. The problem then becomes picking the right spot on an ever-widening array of quarterback salaries. If the Giants have one range in mind and Jones’s representatives have another, it could be very difficult to pinpoint the right number.

Jones also could be willing to wait. To see how it plays out. To bet on himself.

The problem with betting on yourself is that sometimes the bet pays off; sometimes it doesn’t. Complicating matters (or not) would be New York’s bottom-line offer. The higher it is, the riskier Jones’s self-wager becomes.

From the team’s perspective, the fact that the fifth-year option is now fully-guaranteed when exercised (and not just guaranteed for injury, like it used to be) makes it a tougher call. Entering the 2020 season, the Bears opted not to exercise the fifth-year option on Mitch Trubisky. They bet paid off, in a way. They would have regretted exercising the option, and they never faced the regret of not controlling his rights for 2021.

If the Giants do the same, it will be a clear sign (based on Schoen’s explanation from earlier this month) that they haven’t seen enough from Jones in the first month of the offseason program to justify investing $23.384 million in order having to avoid tagging him at more than $30 million in 2023. If they do, it will be an endorsement of Jones for at least two years.

Ultimately, the Giants may regard the decisions made last year by the Panthers with Sam Darnold and the Browns with Baker Mayfield as a cautionary tale. Both franchises would now admit that they made a bad call regarding their would-be franchise quarterbacks. Both teams are now stuck with fully-guaranteed salaries of $18.8 million for 2022 for players they’d rather not have on the roster, especially not at that number.

There’s a way for the Giants to tiptoe through this one, without openly disrespecting Jones. However, the more they praise him in the short term, the more strange it will seem come May 2, if their final decision on Jones’s fifth-year option is, “Nah. We’re good.”

20 responses to “Giants’ words and action continue to conflict on Daniel Jones

  1. Why pick up his option? Dude doesn’t even pass the eye test as a QB in action. I’d rather start a rookie. This team is a legit contender for the first pick next year. Definitely give a vet 25million rather than to try to sell this product to your fans.

  2. With Brian Daboll, Daniel Jones is about to take the next step like Josh Allen did.

  3. Giants did a good job of saying all the right things predraft but they would be stupid to not draft a QB at either 5 or 7

  4. patsfan4lifedynasty says:
    March 27, 2022 at 8:15 pm
    With Brian Daboll, Daniel Jones is about to take the next step like Josh Allen did.

    Most of us have bad memories or are slow learners. If Jones would have been in Buffalo during this time, he’d be going deep into the playoffs, just like Josh Allen. Lots of so-called experts were calling Allen a bust midway through his third season. But this has been going on for decades with young QB’s. Not to mention, Jones will be on his third coach, and his teammates will once again, be spending most of the season learning the playbook, and the new coaches will be spending a year or so getting acquainted with their new roster. What makes matters worse is the Giants keep making changes just for the sake of change, and it doesn’t do any good. Obviously these coaches they’ve hired and fired weren’t the right coaches. Or maybe they were. Perhaps if Mara was the Bills’ owner, he’d have fired Sean McDermott a couple years ago.

  5. people that blame Jones and want a new first round pick to ruin clearly aren’t smart enough to realize that no undeveloped qb is going to perform well behind the bottom 5 line that they have had the past 4 years…. lookbat the jets. darnold had no chance of developing. ship him off for a new highly touted prospect, then Wilson gets destroyed all year. Fixing the line is more important for both franchises then replacing qbs, adding weapons, or wasting 1st rd picks on the defense. fix line first so qb can develop, then add weapons and improve defense.

  6. Schoen never said that Jones was the long term answer….he simply said that he’d stick with him in 2022.

    Giants fans have known this for a WHILE. This isnt news.

    We are not picking up the 5th year option. Again, all Giant fans have known this.

  7. Dimes @ $30m is laughable. I believe he’d be a decent QB for a needy team like the Panthers, but beyond that he hasn’t shown he can shine on NY.

    All you need to know is they haven’t made a decision on a guy that’s started 4 straight years. That’s Mayfield-status. They don’t want to commit.

    Mara shouting that Jones is their guy is the most trade-baity thing he could do right now. Unfortunately, not a single person that’s watched more than 1 game of Danny D playing QB would believe that. He’s bottom tier, but serviceable.

  8. yolo2020 says:
    March 27, 2022 at 8:31 pm
    Remember when Giant fan wanted Eli to retire? Be careful what you wish for.


    Honestly, they were just as bad. Manning’s last 3 years were 3, 5, and 4 wins. I know the Giants won 2 SB with him 10,15 yrs ago but statistically, he was Daniel Jones. Career rating of 84.1 vs someone like Aaron Rodgers with a rating of 104.5. Jone’s looks like Eli and has a very Eli rating of 84.3.

    Jones is Manning (without the incredible team around him that overcame his flaws).

  9. Take the RT at 5 and C at 7 and that’s that. If the Giants don’t have a blue chip line with that group they never will. If they jell quickly enough we’ll also know all we need to about our QB.

  10. Please, no Baker! We don’t need another Johnny Football on our team. Let’s just draft a QB with a higher upside, either this year or next.

  11. Why does everyone who takes the GM and Head Coaching job there try to fire themselves once they sign the contract!

  12. I don’t watch as much football as I used to, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Daniel Jones highlight.

  13. Giants will draft a QB this year. Daboll wants a QB who can run and stay healthy. Dime bag Danny isn’t that guy

  14. What do you want them to say? the Giants came out and said they knew Jones was not the long term answer at QB, they lose any leverage they have both in their ability to trade him and their ability to keep other franchises guessing on how hard they will be targeting the QB position in the draft. The latter applies if they commit to Jones now as well.

    I know we as the public would like a clear answer but cannot fault NYG Brass for sending mixed signals.

  15. Manning’s last 2 years were hard to watch.He had been hit so many times he was getting skittish.He could hear the footsteps and just drop to the ground.Im sure that’s not how he wanted to go out.

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