Chiefs tried to retain Tyreek Hill at “a certain cost,” confident they can win without him

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The Chiefs love Tyreek Hill. Andy Reid loves Tyreek Hill.

But love only goes so far. Money talks.

In the end, Reid and the Chiefs found Hill’s asking price out of their price range.

“You can handle it any way you want to handle it. We handled it the way we did there,” Reid said from the NFL owners meetings Monday. “We felt like Tyreek deserved an opportunity. We came in aggressive and then after we got to a point, we just said, ‘Hey, listen, in this day and age, you have issues that you have to deal with with the cap,’ so we felt like it was better to allow him to go ahead and be traded. You can go different routes. You can play hard ball with a player and do that, or you can kind of go about the way I did. Or we did.”

The Dolphins sent a 2022 first-rounder, a 2022 second-rounder, a 2022 fourth-rounder, a 2023 fourth-rounder and a 2023 sixth-rounder in return for the three-time All-Pro. Miami then signed him to a four-year, $120 million extension that includes $72.2 million guaranteed and $52.535 million at signing.

Hill has a cap hit of $6.23 million this season, but it then rises to $31.2 million in 2023.

“Listen, the cap never gets far away from your thought process, because you’re always dealing with it,” Reid said. “So (General Manager) Brett (Veach) has got to sit in there and manage that with his guys and if you want to keep consistency throughout years you’ve got to be able to do that and still stay at a high level. So I love Tyreek Hill. There was no rift between Tyreek Hill and myself. I thought he deserved an opportunity if that’s where he wanted to go. He’s a family man with a few kids, and he’s got to be able to support them now and down the road and this gives him an opportunity to do that. Put him a place where he has a home, and at the same time, it gave us great compensation.”

In the past four seasons, Hill has averaged 86 receptions for 1,214 yards and 11 touchdowns per season.

The Chiefs signed JuJu Smith-Schuster and Marquez Valdes-Scantling to replace Hill’s production. In their careers — five years for Smith-Schuster and four for Valdes-Scantling — they have combined to average 96 receptions for 1,309 yards and eight touchdowns per season.

The Chiefs trust in quarterback Patrick Mahomes to keep them competitive, with or without Hill.

“Obviously, Patrick’s a big part of that (belief the team can remain competitive),” Reid said. “You want to surround him with good players, but that’s a sticky question, because we did try to sign Tyreek at a certain cost. Once it gets past that, now you can see what we’re doing here with the players we brought in, and we feel they’re very good football players. So we’ll see. I mean the end result is going to be what takes place during the season, but Brett’s building this thing back where we feel comfortable that we can go win on Sundays.”

38 responses to “Chiefs tried to retain Tyreek Hill at “a certain cost,” confident they can win without him

  1. The Chiefs are rebuilding on the fly and needed those picks BADLY. They have no in house, young talent other than Edwards-Helaire, and he’s a replaceable RB.

    That’s not good. That’s terrible. You can’t name one young draft pick that you would point out as being a key player moving forward. Everyone has been imported and their own picks who are older like Kelce and Jones, are not getting any younger at this point.

    They also lost their back end in Sorensen and Mathieu, so their secondary will be trainwreck this year with communication issues, not to mention a huge problem at linebacker.

    They could easily miss the playoffs in that division.

  2. The Dolphins will learn the hard way (as usual) Tyreek Hill cannot improve the o-line, RB or QB positions as they flounder in 2022.

  3. Raider Nation thanks you, now its us to us to seek revenge for embarrassing us last year and for The Raiders to claim the best division in football (AFC WEST) with our new coaches and a top receiver that can open the field up for others, Good luck the winner should be in the Super-bowl in February!

  4. ju ju n marquez may be used “in place of” but are no way “replacements for” tyreek.
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    wish tyreek all the best in his new digs…. congrats on the payday.

  5. Of course they can win without him. Just not sure if it’ll be more than 8 wins a year.

  6. This contract is going to put the Dolphins in big trouble signing free agents beginning in 2023 because of the huge cap hit.

  7. They will still be competitive but they wont be as explosive and I dont see them as a SB favorite. You cant lose a player like Hill and expect everything to stay the same. If they utilize those picks well they could find themselves right back in the mix but not this year.

  8. As a chiefs fan I’m ok with the outcome so far. Remains to be seen how the rest will shake out but he opened up 20 mil in cap space and now have 6 picks in the 1st 3 rounds which we will undoubtedly use some of those to move up and get a pass rusher and draft a new wr to. Players come and go and if the patriots thought is anything the last 20 years everyone is replaceable except for the qb…

  9. By looking who they picked up to replace him it’s a joke at this point worse then that it’s a disaster draft Olive or Wilson and things will look a whole lot better.

  10. When you pay a QB more than 20% of the total salary cap, at some point it will make it impossible to keep everyone. I think the Chiefs will struggle to put up points now. Juju is not a #1. He proved that in Pittsburgh. There will be no one that Mahomes can just chuck it up to and know that the WR has the speed to run it down. You’ll see how important Tyreek was to this offense come September.

  11. I have kids too, and sure, they are expensive, but the idea that “only” 15-20 mn a year wouldn’t let Tyreek take care of his family…absurd. Add him to the long list of players who will take a few million extra to become irrelevant when they already have generational wealth. I seriously doubt Hill will be as good without Mahomes.

  12. 6 picks for a guy that would likely be gone next year anyway. Hate losing him but better to get something rather than a guy holding out and ruining a locker room. Seems good for both sides, but Miami has a top tier WR with a bottom tier QB. KC still has a top tier qb but now needs some pieces. Will be interesting to see if teams still play 2 deep safeties against Pat. If so, that defense is more schemed for Pat, not Tyreek. But if KC gets more possession type WR’s they’ll force teams out of that look and they’ll still have a speed guy in Hardman.

  13. He was the perfect match with Mahomes who could buy time and find him when he broke open. Dolphins will quickly learn that you can’t get the ball to him on time and on target he’s not going to be nearly as effective.

  14. I don’t know how much lower the Chiefs offer was from the Dolphins, but money isn’t everything. Let’s see how long Hill stays happy going from Mahomes to Tua.

  15. As a Chiefs fan, I still hate that Tyreek was traded. It still Kills me that he will not be a member of the Kansas City Chiefs.

    But I will say, Tyreek may have done us a favor. This will force the Chiefs to change the way they run the offense. The offense was Still one of the Best in the league last year, but not the top notch offense it once was. Tyreek actually disappeared in some games. I the signings of Juju, MVS and Ronald Jones. Now Mahomes and the offense will run things a little different, and will still be among the Best in the league.

  16. The new normal. Three or four players are eating up half the cap space and everyone else gets left behind. No way the cap increases enough to make up for the new top players. Eventually the numbers will have to come down and the good drafting teams will have a huge advantage. A team like the Rams will have a large chunk of the cap used up in dead money in a couple years. Chiefs made the hard but correct call. A fifty million dollar Qb is going to have to get it done with less expensive weapons.

  17. touchback6 says:
    March 28, 2022 at 10:06 am
    The Chiefs are rebuilding on the fly and needed those picks BADLY. They have no in house, young talent other than Edwards-Helaire, and he’s a replaceable RB.

    That’s not good. That’s terrible. You can’t name one young draft pick that you would point out as being a key player moving forward. Everyone has been imported and their own picks who are older like Kelce and Jones, are not getting any younger at this point.
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    “You can’t name one young draft pick that you would point out as being a key player moving forward.” Tommy Townsend (3 seasons), Trey Smith (2 seasons), Creed Humphrey (2 seasons). All three were selected as Pro Bowl alternates last season. 3/4 of their current team roster comprises players with 5 seasons or less. Once again, do you even watch football? Yes, Kelce is not getting any younger. He still had more receiving yards tand TDs then the best rookie TE taken in the 1st round of the last draft.

  18. While everyone is cheering the prospect of a lesser Chiefs team without Tyreek Hill, the Chiefs are retooling/upgrading the entire receiving corps. JJSS and MVS are upgrades over Robinson and Pringle. As for the stretching the field, Mecole Hardman gets his shot at being that guy and they’ll undoubtedly pick up 1-2 WRs in the draft. Chiefs are going to be just fine.

    Looking forward to seeing what the new look Chiefs are going to be. Also looking forward to another year of ruling the AFC West.

  19. When you have good leaders on your team like Tom Brady or Derek Carr who are willing to make a team-friendly deal, you can win championships.

  20. when you mention Tom Brady in the same sentence as Derek Carr it damages your credibility. One is a proven winner over two decades. The other has never won a playoff game.

  21. Too hard in today’s game to keep the entire band together for 8-9-10 year runs. Everyone wants and deserves a big slice of that salary cap pie and no team can afford to keep all their superstars unless those players all adopt the Tom Brady attitude – that 20 million is enough every year.

    When really, five to ten million is more than enough every year.

  22. who isn’t trying to retain a superstar at a “certain cost”? BB has done this every year for like 20 years. It’s a rare exception you get what you want when you don’t have the leverage and aren’t willing to pay market rates.

  23. Who is overpaying for WRs? Traditionally dumb teams like the Browns, Raiders and Dolphins. Who is trading away overpriced WRs? Traditionally well run franchises like the Cowboys, Packers and Chiefs.

  24. Teams that believe they can do more (or the same) with less will always fail… happens in the NBA all the time, and the NFL is going that direction as well.. teams should plan years ahead not months like the Chiefs clearly did here.

  25. “The Dolphins will learn the hard way (as usual) Tyreek Hill cannot improve the o-line, RB or QB positions as they flounder in 2022.”

    The Dolphins already substantially improved their O-Line and RB through free agency. Cedric Wilson and Tyreek Hill will give Tua the weapons he needs. I agree that the jury is still out on him, but after this year, everyone will know what kind of QB he is. They will have two first rounders to work with next year if they need to make a change there.

  26. The trade will allow the Chiefs to sign some significant younger players to add to their already young roster. It will be interesting next year when the Broncos and the Chargers contracts with Wilson and Herbert are renegotiated and they try to resign their veteran players. Mahomes 10 year contract is gonna look pretty darn good !

  27. jeremy3186 says:
    March 28, 2022 at 3:54 pm
    Teams that believe they can do more (or the same) with less will always fail… happens in the NBA all the time, and the NFL is going that direction as well.. teams should plan years ahead not months like the Chiefs clearly did here.
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    Yeah, the Chiefs should have allowed Hill to play out his contract in 2022, then sit back and receive a 3rd round Comp Pick in 2024 instead of a 1st, 2nd, and 4th in 2022 and a 4th and 6th round picks.

  28. Chiefs raked the Dolphins. Hill will be Zeke Elliott 2.0. Chiefs nail the draft and in 3 years people will talk about this like the Herschel Walker trade.

  29. Well of course they will win without him, some games, they’re still a very good team. There’s two games they won’t win, those are the two against the team pressed up against the Rocky mountains that wear blue and orange. That 13 game streak is over. Need not worry Chiefs fans, y’all will be due for another Super Bowl, Super Bowl 104. “Every 50 years, Lamar Hunt’s mighty Chiefs will win a Super Bowl.”

  30. The fact that folks try to bring in the Mahomes cap hit into this just shows that they don’t understand Reid led teams. He would not pay that kind of money for a WR no matter what the Mahomes cap hit is. In fact no team that is consistently in the playoffs would. Teams that are looking for the Hail Mary approach like Miami sure yes. But how often does that actually work out?

  31. Is this going to be one of these instances 3 years from now when Hill has suffered twice as many losses as meaningless wins and decided that he has spent enough time running routes in NFL obscurity, with little time left in his declining NFL career, and demands a trade so that he can sniff some playoff glory one more time?

    Hill can take solace while watching his old teammates enjoy the thrills and applause of post-season glory from the comfort of his winter couch. Managed well, none of his heirs for 4 generations will ever have to lift a finger as a result of Tyreek running random passing routes over and over again without any real consequence.

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