Report: Tom Brady knew Bruce Arians was stepping down the day Brady returned, or the next

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Obviously, former Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians didn’t roll out of bed this morning and decide to resign. It was coming, at least for a little while.

Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times reports that quarterback Tom Brady “was informed Bruce Arians planned to step down and Todd Bowles would succeed him as head coach either the same day or a day after the QB announced he was ending his retirement.”

So Brady learned Arians was leaving the same day Brady unretired, or Brady found out about it the next day. Either way, the prospect of a coaching change gave Brady no pause about playing for the Buccaneers. And all that that implies.

Consider that for a moment. No one is suggesting that Brady is even remotely upset that, just as he’s coming back, the head coach is leaving. This only fuels the notion that Brady wanted the coaching change as a condition of his return to the team.

Per Stroud, the Buccaneers insist that the Arians’s departure was not related to Brady’s decision. What else will they say? Of course they’ll deny a connection, regardless of whether there is one.

Still, the notion that Brady is barely even shrugging at the Arians-for-Todd-Bowles swap says plenty. Either Brady wanted this outcome or he has zero qualms about it happening. Regardless, it seems to confirm the notion that, after two years together, Brady was ready for a change.

 

88 responses to “Report: Tom Brady knew Bruce Arians was stepping down the day Brady returned, or the next

  1. Pretty sure Brady was more pissed about the AB thing then he let on. Gaurantee you he made a power play to get BA out

  2. Of course, TB12 informed Arians of his release within a couple days of returning to the Bucs.

  3. Anyone who can think for themselves can see what happened here. Tom went to England and the Glazers asked him what it would take to get him back. Tom told them he didn’t wanna play for Arians anymore, and the Glazers told him Bruce was going to be moved up to the front office. Tom comes back from that London trip, and made his announcement that he was coming back, and here we are. The loser in all of this is Todd Bowles. If the Bucs start losing regardless of the reasons why it’s all Todd’s fault, and if they win another Superbowl it’s not anything Todd did it was all Brady.

  4. Obviously Bruce being gone was priority number one.

    If not, priority number two was a trade to the 9ers.

    Seconds later, Bruce was as good as gone.

  5. TBay ended their season on a questionable coaching decision by supposedly Todd Bowles. This play kissed TB’s chance of going to the SB.

    So I’m not sure what Tom had against his head coach. It appears to everyone that Tom played a big role in their offensive schemes and pretty much everyone openly credited Tom after they won the SB. Bruce himself credited Tom and the players entirely, admitting publicly he did very little.

    That’s why some coaches like veterans on their teams.

    Bruce gave some very sound reasoning for why he is retiring now and no where is there even a hint that Tom pushed him out.

    And if you read why he is retiring it all makes perfect sense.

    Is Bowles going to give Brady the same freedom? I doubt it.

    Did Bruce redo some plays Tom had drawn up? Wel, he was the coach.

  6. And Arians explains it a him wanting to control the succession process. How ironic that you would put it as an expression of your control, Bruce, when everyone believes it’s exactly the opposite.

  7. I know that lots of people think Bruce Arians is the kind of guy you want to have drinks with, but to me he comes across as someone who is extremely unlikeable.

  8. This is funny because it tries to paint the picture that Arians runs the show when we all know Brady does. Brady probably couldn’t care less about Arians retiring.

  9. As soon as Bruce said there was no way that Tom would play for anyone else and that he wouldn’t trade him if he came back I knew something was up.

  10. Let’s not be naive. There was not stepping down. Brady made a power play. Fire Arians or I’m retiring. Tampa chose Brady.

  11. I bet it’s more like Bruce Arians was informed he would be retiring when Tom Brady agreed to come back for one more year.

  12. “Either Brady wanted this outcome or he has zero qualms about it happening. Regardless, it seems to confirm the notion that, after two years together, Brady was ready for a change.”

    The conclusion that there exists only two scenarios supporting the notion is asinine. The principle of Ockham’s razor would suggest the more likely set of circumstances is that Brady was in the loop and the organization knew this course of action was in the works. Brady’s brief retirement, with Arians still at the helm, in and of itself presupposes that “the notion that, after two years together, Brady was ready for a change.” knew well in advance that regime change was in the works. If Brady didn’t know, why would he come out of retirement with Arians still holding the title of headcoach? He didn’t come out of retirement to make a power play, kicking Arians upstairs.

  13. Yeahhhh, that’s a lot of conjecture, man. Arians was always a backpedaling blowhard, but that wouldn’t have been the reason TB dropped out or stipulated for “un-retiring”

    BA is nearly 70 years old. It’s possible he wanted to gtfo while he was still alive at this point.

  14. I don’t see it. Everyone is so quick to make this story about relationships with Brady but the truth is throughout his career he has shown a very high tolerance for conflict and strife if it leads to winning. He took hard coaching from belichick, Arians, and bill O’Brien and he twice recruited Antonio Brown. Remember that Brady CHOSE Arians and the bucs. Bruce is the same guy he always was.

  15. Not sure why Arians is often portrayed as this albatross that just gets in the way. Dude helped bring Brady, and a Super Bowl, to Tampa. I don’t think anyone really thought he was a play calling mastermind. He’s more of a figurehead, and it’s pretty obvious. Brady didn’t go to Tampa to work with another Belichick. Why not just send the guy off on a good note? He’s had a very accomplished coaching career and deserves accolades, not conspiracy theories.

  16. The move may be about Brady or it might be a convenient way to increase the minority head coach count. Either way, even if Brady was blindsided by the change, he would never let on. If Bowles is successful next year, it will further cement Brady’s legend given that Bowles previous head coaching stint was anything but successful.

  17. Well, at least one of them knew when to quit. It will not go well for Brady and the Bucs this year. They were Brady-lucky in their wild card run and mistakenly brought everyone back thinking they were a great team. They were not and got exposed by the Rams and Saints twice each. And from the looks of it, they are making the same mistake again.

  18. Brady is the head coach. He has gone totally Colonel Kurtz. His methods are unsound. Aaron Donald will terminate his command….No wonder McVay is feeling rejuvenated

  19. Remember GM Brady met with the owner at a hockey game. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

  20. I don’t even know you anymore Tom Brady. My kid wants to rip the fathead off the wall. Trust me – if you end up connected to Miami down the road it will be.

  21. The more stories I hear about Brady, the less I care.
    Starting to get real Old.
    Pun intended

  22. He probably just didnt care its like a coaching change without a coaching change he is staying with the bucs and promoted from within.

  23. Walks like a duck, flies like a duck, looks like a duck: pretty good chance your are dealing with a duck. Perhaps Arians and Brady are just more oil and & water in a very tight bottle.

  24. “So what? Brady can retire and come back as many times as he wants.”
    -Brett Favre

  25. SuperBowl is only option if he doesn’t want to be compared to LeBron. It was the right move but Brady has gotten everything he ever asked for over at Tampa

  26. Brady went to England to watch soccer? I think not. Brady went to England to tell the Glazers that he would come back to Tampa if they fired Arians. Simple.

  27. Bowels is a great replacement for Ariens…Satisfies the Rooney rule and is also a great defensive coach…best wishes to him this year…but Brady will eventually retire again and leave him without a competent QB…now his work will really begin…

  28. Love it! This will keep the Brady haters active for a few days. Bring on all the entertaining theories.

  29. People knock Bill Belichick, but none of this kind of player power stuff happens on his watch.

    It’s also only when they leave New England that they stop being humble and start bigging themselves and their teams up.

  30. I’m guessing, based on most of the things Arians has said this off-season, that Brady wasn’t overly upset by the news.

  31. We’ll never know the truth, but I’m fairly certain Ariens leaving was what Brady insisted on, when negotiating with Glaziers at (Old Trafford in the UK) before deciding to unretire

  32. uknepatsfan says:
    March 31, 2022 at 8:51 am
    People knock Bill Belichick, but none of this kind of player power stuff happens on his watch.

    It’s also only when they leave New England that they stop being humble and start bigging themselves and their teams up

    ———-

    BB put his ego ahead of the team when he refused to put Bultler in the game against the Eagles. The team had also regressed substantially since Brady walked. But sure, Bill is in charge.

  33. Todd Bowles was an absolute horrible head coach. His in-game decisions were terrible. His teams weren’t prepared. Heck, his blitz calls with the Bucs were awful.
    Good luck to the Bucs…

  34. uknepatsfan says:
    March 31, 2022 at 8:51 am
    People knock Bill Belichick, but none of this kind of player power stuff happens on his watch.

    It’s also only when they leave New England that they stop being humble


    Brady was never humble when he was in NE.

  35. Except getting Jimmy G traded…haha

    __________________________________________________________________________
    People knock Bill Belichick, but none of this kind of player power stuff happens on his watch.

    It’s also only when they leave New England that they stop being humble and start bigging themselves and their teams up.

  36. Arians must have really been deflated when Brady called him into his office to give him the news Brady had decided to move on from him.

  37. I think Brady considered Arians to be a mediocre coach. His body language and facial expressions after the divisional game loss to the Rams spoke volumes. Brady’s retirement allowed him to present the Glazers with a quid pro quo: I’ll unretire if Arians is gone, or kicked upstairs, and Bowles, a disciplinarian in the Belichick mold, is promoted. I think Brady missed the structure in New England, if not the coach. Anyway, easy call for the Glazers … no Brady, no Super Bowl. It was all planned. Brady is a calculating, ruthless assassin, perhaps off the field more so than on.

  38. ajsjr40 says:
    March 31, 2022 at 8:24 am
    Brady went to England to watch soccer? I think not. Brady went to England to tell the Glazers that he would come back to Tampa if they fired Arians. Simple.
    __________

    Pretty sure that Brady did not have to go all the way to a soccer game in England in order to talk with the Glazers. He can talk with them in Tampa Bay any time he wants to.

  39. More like Arians retired because the Bucs have Brady back and the next coach will have better chance of winning. If the team totally stinks this season without Brady, then the coaches will likely hustle for new jobs after that. Arians is looking out for the team and he planned to retire anyway. He’s going out as a winner. Enough of this Brady conspiracy theories. It will just give the other QBs delusions of power.

  40. nhpats2011 says:
    March 31, 2022 at 9:10 am
    BB put his ego ahead of the team when he refused to put Bultler in the game against the Eagles. The team had also regressed substantially since Brady walked. But sure, Bill is in charge.
    ____________

    I love how much BB’s alleged refusal to play Butler continues to bother you years later. You know nothing about why Butler was not in the game.

  41. Just name Brady GM and Head Coach already. Is there some reason he is not allowed to hold all three titles?

  42. nite2al says:
    March 31, 2022 at 1:45 am
    Well, at least one of them knew when to quit. It will not go well for Brady and the Bucs this year.

    ———-

    Brady led the league in passing yardage and TDs! If it is time for him to quit then Lamar should have never even started!!

  43. “We’re only gonna score (snicker) 17 points? Hahaha ok. Is Plax playing defense?”
    — Tom Brady before his team scored 14 points in that Super Bowl and lost the biggest game in the history of sports

    But the fan club says he’s “humble”. Sure he is.

    I gave the Patriot haters grief over the years but I totally get their perspective of this clown now. Imagine having the arrogance and the audacity to say something like this to the NFC conference champions.

  44. pkrlvr says:
    March 30, 2022 at 10:10 pm
    Pretty sure Brady was more pissed about the AB thing then he let on. Gaurantee you he made a power play to get BA out
    ____
    Now that Arians is out of the picture, I wouldn’t be surprised if that Brady tried or is trying to get AB back in the mix.

  45. It’s going to be fun to see how the offense changes with Brady running the show a bit more. I expect that we will see a little more short passing offense mixed in so the offense isn’t so feast or famine, as it has been under Arians. The Bucs have lost games they should have or could have won because big plays weren’t there or weren’t executed and they go 3 and out and put too much pressure on the D. Brady will fix that.

  46. nhpats2011 says:
    March 31, 2022 at 10:07 am

    nite2al says:
    March 31, 2022 at 1:45 am
    Well, at least one of them knew when to quit. It will not go well for Brady and the Bucs this year.

    ———-

    Brady led the league in passing yardage and TDs! If it is time for him to quit then Lamar should have never even started!!
    _____________________________________________

    Well, when you throw 60 times a game, it ain’t that hard. He retired and unretired, that means he doesn’t know when to quit. I’m a Ravens’ fan first of all. Lamar is our QB and he fits our style. I don’t compare Lamar to any QB because no one is like him. I do know one thing, the Ravens had a dismal 3 years before he got there, so I’m happy with the kid.

  47. Bowles is a great defensive coordinator,but a horrible head coach.Apparently,Brady will be the de facto OC now,while Bowles runs the defense.As much as I dislike the Bucs,this just might work.The Bucs still have a good team,Brady knows what he is doing,(DUH)so it should be interesting.

  48. This makes perfect sense. After Brady spent a couple of seasons with that arrogant, overrated buffoon, there was no way he was coming back if he was still the coach.

  49. nite2al says:
    March 31, 2022 at 11:39 am
    nhpats2011 says:
    March 31, 2022 at 10:07 am

    nite2al says:
    March 31, 2022 at 1:45 am
    Well, at least one of them knew when to quit. It will not go well for Brady and the Bucs this year.

    ———-

    Brady led the league in passing yardage and TDs! If it is time for him to quit then Lamar should have never even started!!
    _____________________________________________

    Well, when you throw 60 times a game, it ain’t that hard. He retired and unretired, that means he doesn’t know when to quit. I’m a Ravens’ fan first of all. Lamar is our QB and he fits our style. I don’t compare Lamar to any QB because no one is like him. I do know one thing, the Ravens had a dismal 3 years before he got there, so I’m happy with the kid

    ——-

    The Ravens have won 1 postseason game since Jackson arrived. If you are happy with that then I’m not sure what to say

  50. Tom pushed BA out next he will want to push the Glazers out. He is a megalomaniac.

  51. nhpats2011 says:
    March 31, 2022 at 12:25 pm

    nite2al says:
    March 31, 2022 at 11:39 am
    nhpats2011 says:
    March 31, 2022 at 10:07 am

    nite2al says:
    March 31, 2022 at 1:45 am
    Well, at least one of them knew when to quit. It will not go well for Brady and the Bucs this year.

    ———-

    Brady led the league in passing yardage and TDs! If it is time for him to quit then Lamar should have never even started!!
    _____________________________________________

    Well, when you throw 60 times a game, it ain’t that hard. He retired and unretired, that means he doesn’t know when to quit. I’m a Ravens’ fan first of all. Lamar is our QB and he fits our style. I don’t compare Lamar to any QB because no one is like him. I do know one thing, the Ravens had a dismal 3 years before he got there, so I’m happy with the kid

    ——-

    The Ravens have won 1 postseason game since Jackson arrived. If you are happy with that then I’m not sure what to say
    _______________________________________________

    I am happy. He’s won more games than any player in NFL history before the age of 24, so that means most Sundays I’m ecstatic watching my team win. If that doesn’t mean anything, then you shouldn’t watch a football game until the playoffs start. And if you get no excitement out of seeing the things Lamar has done on the field that no one else can do, then I don’t know what you get out of watching football.

  52. After all the work Brady did to get AB back on the playing field Arians found a way to push all his meltdown buttons. Brady could not stand for that.

  53. pioniere says:
    March 31, 2022 at 11:59 am
    This makes perfect sense. After Brady spent a couple of seasons with that arrogant, overrated buffoon, there was no way he was coming back if he was still the coach.

    ______________________________

    Brady “unretired” February 1 Arians announcement came March 30. Do the math.

  54. No doubt Brady is the GOAT. But I can’t think of a more classless and joyless person to have reached such heights.

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