Bills officially get $600 million from New York for new stadium

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Look at them yo-yos. That’s the way you do it.

The Buffalo Bills have officially gotten $600 million from New York for a new stadium in Buffalo. The powers-that-be included the payment within the state’s $220 billion 2022-23 budget.

Not everyone was on board.

“Our public schools got less than the Buffalo Bills stadium,” Assemblywoman Yuh-Line Niou (D-Manhattan) said, via Michael Petro of the Buffalo News. “The climate bill, the climate project that we really wanted, also got less than the Buffalo Bills project. Is that what we stand for? This is a moment where we have to look at where our priorities are.”

Although arguments can be made both for and against using that much taxpayer money to subsidize the billionaires who own NFL teams, a simple reality encapsulates the current mood of the country when it comes to projects like these. No up-or-down public vote on using public money for a sports stadium would prevail.

The problem is that most of these venues are funded by elected officials without a specific election as to whether the money should be used. If, for example, the federal government came up with a way to craft a Constitutionally-viable mandate that all projects of this nature must be approved at the ballot box, the NFL would be boxed into a corner. The money for nothing would end, immediately.

Until that happens, and there’s currently no reason to think it will, the billionaires who generally have figured out how to get what they can when they can how they can will keep passing the hat through statehouses and city councils with the not-so-subtle threat/promise that if the local politicians don’t step up to keep the team in town, some other group of politicians will do what’s necessary to lure the team away.

82 responses to “Bills officially get $600 million from New York for new stadium

  1. And New York State gets $1 billion from taxpayers pockets for income, property, and tourism taxes because of said stadium.

    So, yes, the state is making tons of bank it wouldnt have by putting in $600m.

  2. $600 million from New York taxpayers, whether they benefit in any way or not.

  3. If BUF won’t pay, someone will. And what will NY do without those TAX receipts for their “climate change” stuff?

  4. It is outrageous that public officials would give tax payer money to oligarchs to build stadiums while at the same time depriving schools, infrastructure, hospitals, etc. of needed funding.

  5. 600 million dollars for a stadium that will host about 10 NFL Football games a year and other then an occasional rock concert will sit idle for 350 days a year. This is corporate welfare on full display and it’s a disgrace

  6. Crazy. A state of 19.45 Million, pays for a city of 256k, to build a stadium to benefit one owner. But he is in the Democratic Duma. The other 19+Million are just serfsdoing as they are told.

  7. Should give them and all teams zero tax dollars.
    Billionaires can afford to build it themselves.

  8. Missing from the story were the names of the owners of Buffalo Bills,Terry and Kim Pegula and their net worth of $4.3 billion. That puts the $600 million gift into perspective. The Rams and Patriots for received no public funding.

  9. mnrasslinggovjesse says:
    April 10, 2022 at 1:54 pm
    $600 million from New York taxpayers, whether they benefit in any way or not.
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    Never mind the taxpayers from the NFL team.

  10. While I am not in favor of this, saying that New York tax-payers do not benefit in any way, is pretty simplistic, and probable inaccurate. New York is not just the city of New York. There are people in WNY who pay taxes, much of which is diverted to projects they see no day to day benefit from. It’s been that way forever. NFL should be paying for these stadiums… but lets not pretend that WNY wouldn’t feel the financial impact of losing the Bills.

  11. Thanks down state, Western New York and the ONLY NY NFL TEAM appreciates your money. Go Bills!

  12. i can think of no fan base more deserving;

    just hope they have the good sense cleveland lacked and put a roof on it;

    snow games are to watch, more fun to play in, but bad for a visually-based entertaining business;

    so are frozen fields;

  13. I’m hoping the entire economy collapses, and we enter into the greatest Depression this country has ever witnessed. That’s exactly what this country needs

  14. Western NY happy to finally see some money from other parts, rather than funneling it all to the failure that is NYC.

  15. And how many millions and billions of dollars have gone to downstate and New York City projects that WNYers NEVER benefit from?. Let’s not be hypocritical.

  16. Any politician who gives public funds to build a private stadium should be tarred and feathered.

  17. “but lets not pretend that WNY wouldn’t feel the financial impact of losing the Bills.”

    That’s fine. Then the people in west NY should pay the full 600 million, and the people in NYC should pay zero, right? But that’s not how this works. When a group of people pay money into a system and expect no benefit but others in the same system will, that’s called welfare. This is the state putting WNY and the NFL onto its welfare roles, and neither of those two things need it, especially not the NFL.

  18. One thing I notice while driving around major US cities is there’s never money to house and take care of the elderly, the homeless, the forgotten veterans, but if you’re a billionaire who wants to build a stadium to line their own pockets, or an Eastern European country known for laundering US money but currently under attack, the good politicians of America can always find money in the public coffers to steal.

  19. “Our public schools got less than the Buffalo Bills stadium,” Assemblywoman Yuh-Line Niou (D-Manhattan) said

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    How do reporters pass on quotes like that at face value? The state of New York pays for less than half of public education in New York and the budget contains 31.5 billion for public schools. Not only is that more than the Bills stadium, it is 52.5 times as much.

  20. If the Bills were to move it would be weird for New York State to have no NFL teams. That being said by todays standards Buffalo is way to small a metro area to even have an NFL team in the first place.

  21. hailtothe says:
    April 10, 2022 at 4:27 pm
    “Our public schools got less than the Buffalo Bills stadium,” Assemblywoman Yuh-Line Niou (D-Manhattan) said

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    How do reporters pass on quotes like that at face value? The state of New York pays for less than half of public education in New York and the budget contains 31.5 billion for public schools. Not only is that more than the Bills stadium, it is 52.5 times as much.

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    Now divide 31.5 billion by the 1876 public schools in the state. Math and critical thinking, two things they need to teach more of in public schools.

  22. MNGoon says:

    Now divide 31.5 billion by the 1876 public schools in the state. Math…
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    This makes zero sense. We are talking about the entire school budget. Not 1 or 10,000 schools. The school budget. She was very wrong in her statement and better issue a statement on her falsehood.

  23. people seem to forget all the taxes the club and their players and employees pay as well as parking admission tax property tax etc.. and all the revenue city state and county make these taxes are payed by football fans they are not loosing money 30 years of paying these taxes and fees if you don’t want to pay stop taxing everything

  24. Folks – if you assume inflation and NFL salary cap increases total 5% per year, what one quickly realizes is that the 10% NYS income tax on players salaries ALONE will reimburse that $600 million in less than 20 years. Alternatively, if the Bills leave Buffalo (like many before them including the Braves), there would be no $600 million to spend elsewhere. There are of course many other additional Buffalo Bills related millions flowing to NY and Erie County as well, but the point is, the players’ salaries really pay for this over time.

  25. Wonder if you all had these comments when other teams did the same thing…. Or is this just another “screw Buffalo” post….

    Don’t blame the Pegulas or Buffalo…. Blame the NFL and it’s system. Buffalo taxpayers have had to foot part of the bill for other stadiums and as a taxpayer, my taxes dollars go to programs I don’t believe in and consider a waste so here we are.

    This is a literal definition of don’t hate the player hate the game…

  26. What’s with all this public schools talk? I don’t have school aged kids anymore but if I did the last place I’d send to is any public school. They would absolutely be home schooled.

  27. 50Stars says:
    And New York State gets $1 billion from taxpayers pockets for income, property, and tourism taxes because of said stadium.
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    Prove it. I don’t know of any stadium studies that show a stadium “paid for itself” and was a net positive investment for a city.

    In 20 years, Buffalo will still be paying off that $600M dollars they just gave away, but the Bills may be playing elsewhere.

  28. NY Governor Hochul is very compromised. Another political give away to Delaware North for minimum wage jobs.

  29. Was there a provision included in which the Bills would agree to play in Buffalo for at least 30 years? Had heard about that but did not see it mentioned by PFT.

  30. Putting the merits of government investment in an NFL stadium aside……… Based on their “stellar” track record over the last 40 years, who actually thinks the NY state government would not utterly waste that money on fruitless boondoggles? The schools are well funded by any standard, yet somehow it never impacts the quality of the classroom at some of the most needy inner city schools. Climate related “spending”……. Throwing the money down a well will impact the climate just as much ultimately. There is never enough money to waste for these feckless bureaucrats.

  31. Um hi, math here.
    600,000,000 ÷ 220,000,000,000 = 0.0027272727272727 = 0.27272727272727%

    One quarter of one percent of the budget. For an regional entertainment facility. Thats what you’re whining about. A quarter of a percent.

  32. I wonder what they’ll spend the other 99.73% of the budget on. Knowing NY, probably a lot more Shady stuff than building a stadium.

  33. public safety, working roads, clean air and water, healthcare, schools that don’t suck. those are things i don’t mind paying taxes for. Playpens for aristocrats doesn’t come close to making the list.

  34. SO many problems in NY…homelessness, hospitals and schools in desperate need…andw hat does NY do? They give $600 million to a freakin billionaire for a stadium that will profit the billionaire.

  35. “One quarter of one percent of the budget. ”

    The problem is that the money is going to build a stadium that profits a billionaire…and that NY hospitals and schools are getting less than that billionaire is getting.

  36. nosurrender says:
    April 10, 2022 at 4:09 pm
    I’m hoping the entire economy collapses, and we enter into the greatest Depression this country has ever witnessed. That’s exactly what this country needs

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    Only a wretched person would hope for such a thing

  37. This is an investment. It makes money. For lots of people. Big and small. There is no money to be made from roads schools and infrastructure. That’s why we are behind other countries. Priorities under moneys.

  38. radar773 says:

    April 10, 2022 at 6:23 pm

    “One quarter of one percent of the budget. ”

    The problem is that the money is going to build a stadium that profits a billionaire…and that NY hospitals and schools are getting less than that billionaire is getting.

    …Pathetic. The price of the NY government staff’s luncheons will far exceed the price of building this stadium. Like, just in this fiscal year.

  39. The real problem is without guarantees they’ll threaten to leave again 10-15 years from now and look for another handout.

  40. When the Green Bay Packers renovated their stadium it was put to a vote, was paid for by Brown County and the Packers paid it back. Thats how it should be done.

  41. For the ppl that don’t live in this state. This is the first time Western New York has been given any large amount of money for a major project. They piece meal this project and that project to keep WNY ‘happy’. All downstate politicians know that WNY votes mean nothing in the big picture so they don’t care about WNY. They just love WNYs tax money, along with the rest of NYS’s taxes, helping to support the cesspool that is NYC. To those that say but this money should be for blah blah blah. If it’s not going towards a project you can physically see, it’s going in politicians pockets. I’m thankful that cuomo was booted out, and a WNY politician in Hocul was put in as Governor. WNY would never have gotten this stadium without her. I’m not a democrat. As much as the Pegulas are easy targets, WNY would have lost both major league teams without them, they should be applauded for the Bills Super Bowl WIN next year and the Sabres (yes it took awhile but they finally got rid of the cancer Eichel) multi-year playoff run starting next year

  42. We taxpayers are paying billionaires million$. Because we think they don’t have enough money?

  43. When Paul Brown stadium was built in Cincy, there was a vote in Hamilton County. Residents there voted it in. These decisions should always go to a vote in the county it takes place. The state’s governor should have no say.

  44. Thats better then wasting tax revenue for those scummy politicos in NYC, BUT pathetic to spend that for a non multi-use hunk of concrete.
    I like the Bills, but???

  45. It should be outlawed because if it WERE outlawed, the billionaires would HAVE to pay their own way.

    It really is that simple. Outlaw it, and EVERY argument for taxpayer money going to reach people toyboxes becomes moot. And the playing field becomes level for all.

    As it stands, the owners have leverage they should not have and do not need.

  46. Your schools are a mess graduating students who can’t read their diploma and climate change is a long con they changed three times since I was a kid 50 years ago. Younger people fall for it because they haven’t been around long enough. Besides, the schools? This is the state budget. The Feds toss in a ton and the lottery goes to the schools. The lottery makes billions. Cry me a river.

  47. “by todays standards Buffalo is way to small a metro area to even have an NFL team in the first place”.

    They seem to be supporting the team just fine, and Rochester, which is very close by, helps with this as well.

  48. neverdieeasy says:
    April 10, 2022 at 6:48 pm
    This is an investment. It makes money. For lots of people. Big and small. There is no money to be made from roads schools and infrastructure.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Neither the Bills owners nor the NFL will make a dime if there are no roads to get fans, players, officials, tv crews, foods, supplies, etc. to the stadium.

    Without working roads, bridges, water supply systems, power grid, communications networks, the stadium cannot even be built. It cannot get occupied. Games cannot be played. Broadcasting would not be possible. And nobody is making any money.

    Without schools, nobody makes enough money to buy game tickets, luxury suites, cars to drive to games, $25 hot dogs, etc. No NFL owner is making any money.

  49. Stop acting like NFL stadiums are owned by NFL teams (there are a few but it is rare). They are not gifts to the owners they are an amenity to keep the team in the area because the draw of NFL brings in direct and indirect tax money that far outweighs what the public contribution is. If there is a shortfall between the benefit of the NFL team and the return on the public contribution then it is the fault of the local officials managing the venue. Get creative. Bring in more events (concerts, motocross, monster trucks, RV shows) or find additional tenants.

  50. I don’t agree with the current system where billionaires get so many tax handouts. But I’m also a realist and know the system isn’t changing anytime soon and I’m glad that NY didn’t make some principled stand that would’ve only resulted in the Bills leaving Buffalo. They are just too important to the area. I see them staying as a tangible benefit to the tax dollars (from gambling) being used.

    I’m happy the stadium deal got done and I don’t have to worry about the Bills leaving for decades to come. WNY deserved to get their new stadium to keep their team.

  51. Packer fans are given static all the time for purchasing “fake stock,” but it certainly prevents this type of travesty.

  52. As a Bills fan who lives in the south, I think this is great! NYS has some of the highest taxes in the country. Ridiculously high. As long as I don’t have to pay them anymore, they can subsidize billionaires all they want.

  53. People keep forgeting the the stadium will not belong to the Bills and the organization will have to pay rent.

  54. AFC East: Dolphins, Patriots and Jets all paid for the own stadiums out of their own pockets, but the POOR Pegula’s can’t? Shameful and waste of money, the Bill’s don’t need a new pretty toy, the stadium they have is pretty old school cool.

  55. Buffalo, along with Cincinnati and Green Bay are the only NFL cities where I believe public financing of a stadium is appropriate.

  56. hugos19875 says:
    April 10, 2022 at 4:53 pm
    people seem to forget all the taxes the club and their players and employees pay as well as parking admission tax property tax etc.. and all the revenue city state and county make these taxes are payed by football fans they are not loosing money 30 years of paying these taxes and fees if you don’t want to pay stop taxing everything.
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    This has been proven to be false over and over again. This just provides less funding for more critical needs and provides crappy paying, eight days a year extra income. NFL teams, large hotel chains, and restaurants are the winners. No one else.

  57. I personally love it.

    New York said yes to football and no to leftist agendas. Maybe there’s hope for New York State after all.

  58. Es El Repollo! says:
    April 10, 2022 at 8:44 pm
    It really is that simple. Outlaw it, and EVERY argument for taxpayer money going to reach people toyboxes becomes moot. And the playing field becomes level for all.

    As it stands, the owners have leverage they should not have and do not need.
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    Not really.

    If public money for stadiums was outlawed, there’d no longer be a desire for teams to be in cities like Buffalo, Jacksonville, New Orleans, etc. You would see owners moving to the largest cities or markets. The “level playing field” would be gone for mid-tier and small cities.

  59. “Ask the fans that use the facility and follow the team to pay for it, you know, the actual real-time consumers of football. They are the ones that understand the problem and want to be part of a solution. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.”
    -Packer Fan Stockholders

  60. Yankee Stadium cost $1B in public money. WNYers had to pay for that. Just sayin’.

  61. alonestartexan says:
    April 11, 2022 at 8:56 am
    I personally love it.

    New York said yes to football and no to leftist agendas. Maybe there’s hope for New York State after all.
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    Education and protecting the environment are “leftist agendas”? Ever notice how hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires and flooding are increasingly problematic?

    And to everyone saying the Bills will have to “pay rent” – there is zero percent chance that this agreement doesn’t give full ownership to the Pegulas. That’s now these things always work – it’s charity to billionaires AND the billionaires get all the profit from the stadium.

  62. Only makes sense that NY can use tax payers money for projects such as this without a vote. The Federal Government sends our tax payers money over seas with out my vote too… Don’t complain about one with out complaining about the other. At least this money is staying in the US. Just saying.

  63. The County currently owns the stadium the Bills play in and the State will own the next one. See the term LEASE for clarification.

  64. Pegulas are laughing at New York taxpayers. Wait until Bill’s fans realize they have to pay $30k just for the right to purchase that seat they had for 20 plus years.

  65. All of these comments have been said before, and will be said again the next time the billionaires fleece the taxpayers.

    “The poor always being – by the rich. Always have been. Always will be “

    -King, from Platoon

  66. Thanks for the $600 mil. Oh, by the way, yes, we’re still going to rob you at the concession stands!!

  67. Or they could have spent it on the “climate bill, climate project” as she put it.
    So regardless your tax dollars are being wasted, unless your a Bills fan that wanted a new stadium.

  68. Extreme whining from people whose taxes will go up $50 a year to keep your city relevant.
    Bills move and that city goes over the falls. You dont think that when the Bills go, the Pegulas wont take the Sabers too? Plus the jobs that are lost? That place would be Erie, PA North over night.

  69. so who exactly proved this is false. there is a ton of tax paid by employees , players , parking , admission fees , sales tax , hotel bed tax , air fare tax , tax on alcohol plus the trickle down effect of the games bars restaurants ect..

  70. I am delighted with the 600 million for the new stadium. A new stadium is badly needed. The Bills are worth keeping. They are a Super Bowl contender. May the stadium project go forward!!

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