Does Deebo Samuel not want to live in California?

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Plenty of theories emerged on Wednesday in the wake of the news that 49ers receiver Deebo Samuel has asked to be traded. Here’s one that was not widely discussed.

Chris Simms explained on Thursday’s PFT Live that he poked around yesterday to try to get to the bottom of the situation, and he heard that it may be as simple as Samuel not wanting to live in California.

It’s a very real factor for plenty of players. As we await the 2022 draft, the reality is that no players get to pick the places where their careers will begin. Instead, they’ll be whisked away to wherever with all the randomness of a piece of paper being pulled from a hat.

For some players, that may not sit well. For some, they’ll deal with it for a while, and then maybe they’ll look for a path to a different place. Closer to home. Closer to family. Closer to wherever the player wants to be, for whichever team he wants to play.

This new era of player empowerment isn’t just about players getting paid more with a new team than their current team will pay them, or landing in a place more conducive to winning. It’s about players spending all year — not just a few months of it — in the place where they prefer to be.

Samuel hasn’t said why he asked for a trade. Of all the factors that potentially are influencing him, one thing that can’t quickly be remedied is the fact that the 49ers play their home games in California.

82 responses to “Does Deebo Samuel not want to live in California?

  1. Quick question:

    Outside of very towns/cities, where you need to be a multi millionaire to enjoy it, who would?

  2. I heard he wants to play for a team who’s color scheme matches that of his favorite childhood colors.

  3. I would say if his beef is not wanting to live in California then this is definitely the wrong way to go about it. Deebo may be a man among men on the football field but he’s acting pretty childish with how all of this is playing out.

  4. there are mcdonalds in every state. no one is forcing them to play in the nfl. if you dont like the system go into a different field

  5. Trying to figure out how many Superbowls the last 10 years where these crybaby Receivers were the deciding factor. Where was J Adams in all the recent Packers playoff losses? Did he EVER step up? This position group has become a bunch of entitled colossal bores. Diggs in last years’ playoffs? T Hill in the Superbowl against the Bucs? Dump them, draft new ones.

  6. Not wanting to live in California and not wanting to take RB hits every game and shortening his career might be the most rational reasons for wanting to be traded.

  7. My apologies for being harsh on deebo bailing on his teammates, coaches, and fans. If he truly is looking to leave because of California that is completly understandable.

    Out of control government oversight and ridiculously high taxes have many on the CA exodus.

  8. Judging by the infestation in Arizona, Nevada, Idaho, Oregon, Texas, Tennessee, and Florida by Californians, the question should be: “Does anyone?”

  9. Why wouldn’t he want to enjoy all that San Fran has to offer? Where else can you bask in ridiculously high taxes, massive overcrowding, crazy high cost of living, drought, gridlock 24×7, terrible air quality and one of the highest crime rates in the world? Yep, he’s just being a diva…

  10. I don’t buy it…. It’s MONEY in combination with the way they are using him…. He wants to be a WR, not a RB that gets pounded way more….

  11. CA is the Golden State. It powers the nation — 5th largest economy in the world. Lots of opportunity, and natural beauty awaiting. Eureka!

  12. Quick question:

    Outside of very towns/cities, where you need to be a multi millionaire to enjoy it, who would?
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    If I had my choice northern Cali and the Pacific Northwest is where I’d retire. Guessing you haven’t been there

  13. It’s true in every industry. It doesn’t matter if it’s waiting tables or being a WR1 in the NFL. If you’re good at what you do, you get more leverage to control more of your working conditions. You have to use this power wisely and sparingly though or you will get a bad reputation of being difficult and your opportunities will be reduced. Deebo played well and has a little leverage and he’s also under contract for 2 more years. The team proposed an extension opening negotiations, the player proposed being traded. Let the discussions begin.

  14. tommyfromambridge says:
    April 21, 2022 at 9:37 am
    Trying to figure out how many Superbowls the last 10 years where these crybaby Receivers were the deciding factor. Where was J Adams in all the recent Packers playoff losses? Did he EVER step up? This position group has become a bunch of entitled colossal bores. Diggs in last years’ playoffs? T Hill in the Superbowl against the Bucs? Dump them, draft new ones.
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    I’ll bet that you also believe that those mentioned receivers did nothing to help their team get to the playoffs. Cooper Kupp had all of 61 receiving yards in the playoff game against the Cards. I guess the Rams should dump him and draft a new receiver. Right? Just using your thinking.

  15. While this “new era of player empowerment” might have some upside for the players, it’s really not all that good for the long-term health of the game. Remember, this is a game meant for entertainment and gives young men the opportunity to do the thing that they love and make a lot of money in a short period of time. In many cases, the opportunity is for generational wealth. Absolutely, they risk their physical health in the short and long-term but they are rewarded in ways that only a fraction of the population can fathom. Digging in order to get market value is one thing but attempts to petulantly engineer the most perfect placement imaginable should not be accommodated. The entire system geared towards maintaining some level of competitive balance will be undermined, especially when the typical result is the rich franchises getting richer. And the more that ownership caves, the more the players are going to fail to honor their contracts.

  16. I work primarily in LA, NY, and Seattle for projects. I do not live in California. When I do LA based, or work where the client is in LA, I pay 47% in taxes. Deebo is one bracket up, I think they pay 54%.

    Not fun playing the first half of a football game for the government. Then getting paid to play after halftime.

  17. Most people who live in California feel privileged to be here. Yes, it can be a bit more expensive and the cities are crowded, but the beauty, diversity and culture of the state, and the fantastic weather, trump all the other states. It’s a lot better than living in redneck Texas or Florida, and it’s preferable to states in the snowbelt or in the desert.

  18. How about.the HUGE tax bite california has and will take out of 8-9 of his game checks…duh

  19. tommyfromambridge says:
    April 21, 2022 at 9:37 am
    Where was J Adams in all the recent Packers playoff losses? Did he EVER step up?
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    Who is J Adams?

  20. I lived in the San Francisco Bay area for almost 20 years and loved it. Had to move back east for family reasons, but if I were inclined to move to warmer climes for retirement, I’d pick California over Florida any day, despite the state taxes. If Deebo doesn’t like California, for whatever reason, that’s his prerogative. But what he wants and what he can get may be two different things.

  21. lowlyfinfan88 says:
    April 21, 2022 at 9:33 am
    I would say if his beef is not wanting to live in California then this is definitely the wrong way to go about it. Deebo may be a man among men on the football field but he’s acting pretty childish with how all of this is playing out.

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    What’s the right way? “Honor” your contract, get tagged and then get traded two years from now still being grossly under paid and 28 years old before you get your first big contract?

    That makes no sense at all except to a Niners fan that’s bitter about him wanting to leave.

  22. If I played for a team in California, that would absolutely factor in my negotiation. Taxes are outrageous.

  23. Would not mind seeing this guy out of California (and out of the NFC west). Dude has been a thorn in the side of the Rams. I’m so enjoying the drama going on in frisco

  24. Sky high taxes in CA, and he knows he won’t get nearly the same amount of production with Trey Lance at QB.

  25. I do not think it is the state of California. He does not want to play part time running back. The franchise tag and contracts for the better RBs are much less than premier wide receivers.

  26. If that’s true, it’s a pretty pathetic lack of perspective.

    People move to unexpected places for jobs that pay a lot less than these jobs all the time. To have won the lottery and been made a multi-millionaire to play a silly game and still feel like your situation is unfair is the height of obnoxious privilege.

    Guy could retire now and live anywhere in the world he wants without ever having to work again in his life. A team wants to pay him tens of millions of dollars to play in CA for a few more years. Cry me a river.

  27. The Niners place this talented athlete in an awesome scheme which is very successful and this is the thanks they get. Bad advice from his agents IMO.

  28. I’ve had a number of friends who have spent more than 20 years out in California flee the state in the past two years. A lot of problems there which is no secret to many of you.

    There’s also a whopping 13.3% state income tax in Cali. That alone would make other states/teams more appealing.

  29. Chris Sims has a very poor track record of his so called poking around info gathering being accurate . Sounds like once again Sims got played by somebody who thought I will give the most ridiculous wrong answer to his question , lol .

  30. I find the Carolinas to be quite nice!! Florida is not the only warm-weather state in the east. Low taxes, great weather……

  31. I have to believe all the negativity thrown at CA is from folks who have never been there or lived there. CA is a beautiful state, which has provided enormous opportunity for generations of Americans and new immigrants. High tech, which drives the economy, was invented there. CA is the cradle of intellectual property development, which drives the economy. No one who has taken advantage of what the state has to offer gripes about taxes – we get a lot. Areas of the state, mainly along the coast, are costly, but the lifestyle and beauty are unsurpassed. Those leaving are primarily motivated by economic considerations, including cashing out of their homes to handsomely finance retirement. But it’s a bargain with the devil — the price is they will never replace the wonderful coastal lifestyle.

  32. Yes, the NFL is WWE says:
    Why wouldn’t he want to enjoy all that San Fran has to offer? Where else can you bask in ridiculously high taxes, massive overcrowding, crazy high cost of living, drought, gridlock 24×7, terrible air quality and one of the highest crime rates in the world? Yep, he’s just being a diva…

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    Honest question: have you ever been to SF? Drought is certainly an issue in CA, but not really SF. Air quality? Again, some cities in California deal with air quality issues, but SF is not one of them. One of the highest crime rates in the world? Wrong again.

  33. Went to L.A for Chargers vs Chiefs Thursday night game, then to the Rams vs Seattle game that postponed to the Tuesday. Sofi is a great venue, but I’d never stay in L.A ever again. It’s a giant dumpster fire no matter where we went.

  34. I can’t see why anyone would want to live in Cali. Taxes, crime, pollution, wildfires, why wouldn’t you want to live there?

  35. I’m willing to bet that the people making claims about the state of affairs in San Francisco and California have never been to the city or the state.

  36. Someone in the organization must have said something to trigger this. Like “No” when extension talk came up.

  37. I live in Ohio and have seen more California license plates here in the last week than I have seen in the last 50 years!
    People have had enough of California taxes and politics and are even coming to cold, cloudy Ohio to get away.
    I wouldn’t blame him a bit if he wants out!

  38. “Those leaving are primarily motivated by economic considerations”

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    Those leaving are leaving because of california policies and politics, not because they want to sell their homes to fund retirement.

  39. If he’s wanting that 30 mil AND not to be used as a RB anymore that should be a hard pass for SF right? I mean, he’s a good WR but what makes him special on the field is his ability to be a mismatch in the RB spot.

  40. Doesn’t add up at all. If that were the case why wouldn’t he ask for a trade in the beginning of the process instead of getting emotional and demanding one a long way into negotiations?

  41. finchy74 says:
    April 21, 2022 at 11:08 am
    I’ve had a number of friends who have spent more than 20 years out in California flee the state in the past two years. A lot of problems there which is no secret to many of you.
    _____________

    No, you haven’t. And perhaps you would like to describe what you believe the problems to be in California. Apparently beautiful weather, beautiful people, and a plethora of activities are all unattractive to you.

  42. He is finally realizing the outrageous level of taxation on citizens need to pay for freebies to non-citizens who want to see the USA without supporting it.

  43. gibson45 says:
    April 21, 2022 at 11:38 am
    I’m willing to bet that the people making claims about the state of affairs in San Francisco and California have never been to the city or the state.

    You’d be wrong. I’ve been to CA numerous times on business. Most of my business contacts can’t wait to leave the state and many already have. Expensive, brutal traffic, poor air quality, crime in the LA area, etc, etc. San Diego and San Fran are nice, but very expensive. Absolutely worth a visit, but not to live there.

  44. If I had my choice northern Cali and the Pacific Northwest is where I’d retire. Guessing you haven’t been there
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    I don’t think anyone is suggesting that much of California isn’t incredibly beautiful. There’s a lot more to it than that and I’d start with taxes and government oversight. Combine that with the fact that Deebo is about as far from “home” as he can be. He’s from South Carolina, which I think a lot of people could argue has plenty of areas as beautiful as Cali, without all the other “problems” everyone is already leaving Cali for.

  45. Really? Every time the Rams get a FA, they state coming to LA as one of the reasons they come. Most of them have houses there. Only ones who hate SoCal are the flyovers that have never been there.

  46. California is definitely the most taxed state….but where would he end up?

    So far I’m seeing NY, GB, and KC as possible destinations, maybe NE too (doubt it)? Strangely enough, Massachusetts has the lowest tax rate of any of those states. Its not like they are tax-free states.

    I would also think that when a contract gets signed, it might be written with the state tax code in mind, meaning he would get more $$ playing for a team in CA vs playing for a team in another state. That has to be a consideration for a player in free agency, why would sign with a team in CA when he could make 13% more net income playing in FL or TX. I’d imagine the contracts are adjusted somehow to even that out.

  47. jm91rs says:
    April 21, 2022 at 12:03 pm
    If I had my choice northern Cali and the Pacific Northwest is where I’d retire. Guessing you haven’t been there
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    I don’t think anyone is suggesting that much of California isn’t incredibly beautiful. There’s a lot more to it than that and I’d start with taxes and government oversight.
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    The problem is that those suggesting anything about California know nothing about the state. They’ve never been there.

  48. MossyMossApplesauce says:
    April 21, 2022 at 11:31 am

    Honest question: have you ever been to SF? Drought is certainly an issue in CA, but not really SF. Air quality? Again, some cities in California deal with air quality issues, but SF is not one of them. One of the highest crime rates in the world? Wrong again.
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    True, except the team is located over 50 miles south in Santa Clara. Anyone who has spent a summer day in Santa Clara and travelled to San Francisco knows they are two completely different worlds. As Mark Twain famously said: “The coldest winter I ever spent was my summer in San Francisco.”

  49. bucsfanfor5months says:
    April 21, 2022 at 11:32 am
    Went to L.A for Chargers vs Chiefs Thursday night game, then to the Rams vs Seattle game that postponed to the Tuesday. Sofi is a great venue, but I’d never stay in L.A ever again. It’s a giant dumpster fire no matter where we went.

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    True, but LA isn’t CA, and it’s definitely not the Bay Area or even San Diego. I’ve lived in CA most of my life and that’s the one part of the state I’ve never (nor will ever) live in.

  50. My man Deebo is from Inman South Carolina, a REALLY SMALL town outside of Spartanburg. He went to college near home at Clemson.

    Homesickness can be very real, living across the country 3000 miles away from family. Yes, even for 26 year old millionaire.

  51. oldgoat says:
    Really? Every time the Rams get a FA, they state coming to LA as one of the reasons they come. Most of them have houses there. Only ones who hate SoCal are the flyovers that have never been there.

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    Every person I talked to at Long John Silvers said they liked eating there. Ergo, the only people who don’t like Long John Silvers are people who haven’t eaten there.

  52. Maybe he made a call to Phil Mickleson another athlete who wanted to bolt CA because of the bite they were taking out of his winnings. I think his wifey said no, not until the kids finish school.
    The reality is some athlete’s who live in no tax states do make a nice chunk of change versus those who live and work in high tax states like Minny, CA, NY.

  53. We don’t HAVE to work or live anywhere we don’t want to… why is it such a crime that Deebo wants the same ??

    Actually… not wanting to live in any state as a reason for asking for a trade holds more water for me than the “team not doing enough to win” crap.

  54. Not sure why anybody thinks Texas is such a bargain. It’s Ok – meatheads in government ruining the place – but it’s alright. I’d recommend renting while he plays here, property taxes are the state slush fund, going up like a rocket every year. And spare me the ‘if you don’t like it move’ crap. I’ve lived in the Midwest and northwest as well, no place is perfect. Settled for Texas, no better or worse than anywhere else.

  55. Rational people are moving out of California in droves – maybe this guy wants to be a Titan.

  56. I’ve seen some huge money guys choose California teams over other teams. LeBron James. Albert Pujols. Kevin Durant. Matt Stafford. Jalen Ramsey. I figured they chose California for the lifestyle. They’d prefer to live in California, even if they have higher taxes. I doubt Deebo wants to just get out of California. But everyone has their own preference

  57. Probably wants to go somewhere with no income tax. Don’t blame him. California’s income tax is ridiculous

  58. Can you imagine his tax bill in CA? If he played in Tennessee or Florida, he would significantly add to his take home money.

  59. Surprised the Packers are not all over this – you could have an impact player right away coming into camp. Deebo Samuel is an awesome WR and would be a great addition to mentor the younger WR corps.

    Green Bay doesn’t have the cajones to pull it off. They need an experienced WR and Deebo fits the bill. He said he doesn’t want to be a WR/RB, Green Bay has two above average RBs so proml solved there……whadda waiting for GB?

  60. gibson45 says:
    April 21, 2022 at 11:50 am
    finchy74 says:
    April 21, 2022 at 11:08 am
    I’ve had a number of friends who have spent more than 20 years out in California flee the state in the past two years. A lot of problems there which is no secret to many of you.
    _____________

    No, you haven’t. And perhaps you would like to describe what you believe the problems to be in California. Apparently beautiful weather, beautiful people, and a plethora of activities are all unattractive to you.
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    Exactly. I love living in California. Its funny how many negative comments are always given when talking about this beautiful state. People mention traffic and crime. There’s crime in every state and traffic in every big city. Not every city in Cali is huge and has traffic problems. If people don’t want to live here that’s fine. But that’s no reason to just hate on us out here. And I read comments about how other states are beautiful as well. That is true, but I don’t think you can find another state that can offer everything that California can. I’m within a 3 hour drive of the ocean. Within an hr of Mt Shasta or Lassen. Within 3 hrs of the bay area. Within 3 hrs of tahoe. We have the beautiful redwoods and plenty of beautiful state parks. Vegas is right next door to us. We have everything I need and I don’t have to plan a big family vacation or multiple vacations to visit any of these places. Most of it can be made in a one day trip and I can be home by bedtime and sleep in my own bed if i want to. Thats probably where all the hate comes from. Me and the fam just went out to tahoe a couple weeks ago. Had a great time and it didn’t cost much to go out there. Half a tank of gas. Most of yall gotta hop on a plane to do things like that. There’s value in that. There’s value in having so many options within a short drive of where we live.

  61. Everybody thinks the point of this article is that he wants to leave California. The point Florio is making is that he thinks the draft is unfair.He’s all about this new player empowerment where players want out even if they’re under contract.He thinks fans follow the game by rooting on individual players and seeing how much money they can make.Fans follow the game because they’re rooting for their favorite teams and they love the game. I want competitive balance maintained.

  62. naes says:
    April 21, 2022 at 10:09 am

    I work primarily in LA, NY, and Seattle for projects. I do not live in California. When I do LA based, or work where the client is in LA, I pay 47% in taxes. Deebo is one bracket up, I think they pay 54%.

    Not fun playing the first half of a football game for the government. Then getting paid to play after halftime.

    Its clear you are simply looking at the brackets for this math and not applying literally to your situation (i.e. progressive rates and deductions make your analysis unlikely). The maximum CA individual tax rate is 12.3% for income over $625K (in other words, that rate only applies to income earned in CA above $625K). That would mean you are paying at a Federal tax rate of 35% on that income, after all deductions. Serious doubts my friend unless you are earning $1M+ in CA alone. If so, how do you have time to comment on these boards?

  63. Half the people I know here in DFW are from Cali. And it appears from what I read this is where he also wants to live.

  64. I have been to 49 of our 50 states, missing out on only Oregon. California has some of the most beautiful areas in the country.

    You can find friendly people anywhere if you are gracious and friendly (even Paris). Different people have different wants and needs. Some appreciate the cultural diversity that SF offers, despite the higher cost. It has great neighborhoods that are distinct in their own way.

    It’s a walkable city where you can go to one place for drinks, dinner at another, and wrap the night up at a third with coffee and dessert. The hills provide great panoramic views. They have three great professional sports franchises. Golden Gate Park is an oasis of activity. The Muir Woods and Wine Country are enjoyable day trips.

    The explosion of High Tech and its close proximity to SF created unique cost pressures, creating hardships for those that didn’t reap its financial rewards. That’s not the city’s fault. We haven’t grappled with that reality as a nation.

    Reducing all of CA or SF in a microcosm of taxes is myopic. And didn’t TS Eliot write an unflattering narrative poem about Florida?

  65. California should be the greatest state in our union. Due to politicians and their foolish policies, it’s the worst state in the union. The people of California are tremendous, the way it’s governed is contrary to our founders intent. Very sad.

  66. charliecharger says:

    I’ve seen some huge money guys choose California teams over other teams. LeBron James. Albert Pujols. Kevin Durant. Matt Stafford. Jalen Ramsey. I figured they chose California for the lifestyle. They’d prefer to live in California, even if they have higher taxes.
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    Pujols took the money. James and Durant were just ring shopping like they’ve always done. Stafford and Ramsey were traded, and both went to better teams. I don’t think any of them had the state of residence as their #1 priority.

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