49ers are willing to listen to Deebo Samuel trade offers, but it surely will take a lot to get him

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49ers G.M. John Lynch had plenty of things to say on Monday about the Deebo Samuel situation. Although Lynch consistently declined to discuss how the relationship had devolved to the point of Deebo making a trade request, Lynch said enough to permit a conclusion that, if the 49ers get an offer they can’t refuse, they won’t.

Here’s the key line from the transcript provided by the team: “We’ve been consistent since we’ve been here in that we listen on just about anyone. That’s something we’ll always do.”

In other words, Deebo isn’t untouchable. Still, it will be hard to touch him. Twice, Lynch said he can’t ever imagine moving on from Deebo. That means it will take the kind of offer Lynch and coach Kyle Shanahan can’t imagine, in order to trigger a trade.

“He’s just too good of a player,” Lynch said. “You think of 2019, the 36th pick, to come up with someone like Deebo who, to me, has just been a game-changing player for our franchise. I’ve told Deebo this, I think he’s the perfect illustration. Herm Edwards used to talk about when will meets skill, you’ve got the opportunity to be special. And I think Deebo probably embodies that as much as anyone, he’s got tremendous will, he’s a very talented player. I think by virtue of the way he plays, it’s inspiring and so, to me, that entails leadership. Do you make people around you better? He checks that box. He’s a great teammate. And I think of things like prior to games, I get out there and he’s always throwing the ball with the fans. I think he’s been a great member of our community, so we’ve got nothing but love for him and nothing but appreciation for what he’s bought, but you just don’t let guys like that walk. I can’t envision a scenario where we would.”

But Lynch surely would have said three months ago that he can’t envision a scenario where Samuel would want to no longer be part of the team, to no longer be a member of the community. Although it’s still unknown how that happened, the reality is that the 49ers failed in some way to ensure that they have the right relationship with Samuel. If they hadn’t, he wouldn’t want out.

Lynch said that the 49ers have talked to Samuel. It’s possible that the 49ers at this point hope to get through the draft and hope Deebo will realize that he has no real options, if he wants to play football in 2022.

Still, it’s hard to have much faith in the team’s handling of Samuel going forward, given that their past efforts have resulted in Samuel no longer wanting to be part of the team.

55 responses to “49ers are willing to listen to Deebo Samuel trade offers, but it surely will take a lot to get him

  1. the reality is that the 49ers failed in some way to ensure that they have the right relationship with Samuel. If they hadn’t, he wouldn’t want out.
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    Or it’s possible you are rumor mongering. He may want out of California or he may just be acting like a diva. After all, he’s posted on social media and deleted several times.

  2. All the trade talk is window dressing… in the end they”ll fold like a house of cards and blow up their salary cap to pay him whatever he wants. Santa Clara should ready for a $25 mill a year WR and salary cap hell.

  3. He’s in play just like every other player in the league would be in play if the offer is over the top, but it’s gonna take a couple of first round picks (plus more) at a minimum to pry him away from the 49ers, and then you still have to figure out just how much he’s looking for in order to get a deal done. Is he really worth all of that? No thanks

  4. But, you’re not going to get a lot because you didn’t pay him before it got to this and the WR market is too high to expect a lot in return.

    When you have Hill making 25 million per year in Miami and Diggs making 22 in Buffalo, you’re screwed.

    All you’d have to do is take a top WR in the top 15 and work with the rookie contract.

    At best, Samuel is worth a late 1st and maybe a 4th. Someone is going to have to have the contract waiting for him and there aren’t many teams dumb enough except for the Jets.

    SF will have a disgruntled WR all summer and even if he stays, he’ll be distracted and a cancer.

  5. The problem with the 49ers is that they aren’t a San Francisco team anymore. The winning and championships of yesterday are a San Francisco legacy, and it’s lost in the young players in Santa Clara today.

  6. It’s also possible the 49ers did everything right and he just doesn’t want to play for them.

  7. When will somebody talk about how terrible of a GM John Lynch is? The bust of Solomon Thomas, investing 3 first round picks into a project QB, their current salary cap mess, their best player wanting out of town, Jimmy G hurt like always.

    The list goes on.

  8. Debbo is one of the most over-rated WR in the game today. As a WR he has 10 TD in career. As rusher he has 11. Last time I checked, RBS rarely make over 10 mill a year; you know the position he is better at. With only 77 receptions last year and Deebo hinting he doesn’t want to do the rb thing, he is at best high end 2. 20 mil a year is likley over paying for his services.

  9. It feels like this is building up to a draft day swap of a player and some 1-2 rd picks for Deebo and a late round pick. Maybe an O-lineman and a 1, plus a conditional 2 or 3 and a swap of 4’s or 5’s for Deebo.

    Which will be a great deal for both parties. Deebo will go play for the Jets and get paid to be a perennial loser, while the 49ers find an effective, less expensive wide receiver to pair with their new QB who can actually throw the ball down the field.

  10. What is it with all of these diva receivers? Washington should count their lucky stars for having someone like Terry McLaurin who plays at a superstar level while remaining humble, team-oriented, and displaying the highest personal character. For some reasons, those qualities are in short supply for star players split out wide.

  11. Anyone who remembers 9er history only has to go back a couple years ago when Deforest Buckner was due for a massive new contract: “We want DeForest to be a Niner for a long, long time,” Lynch said. “He’s an excellent football player. He’s an excellent human being. He’s an excellent leader.” Buckner was the No. 7 overall draft pick by the 9ers. “I think the cool thing with DeFo, we’ve seen him play at a high level for a long, long time,”

    “DeFo???” Not only does the name sound familiar, but the bragging about how great he was is word for word exact. Lynch traded “DeFo” to the Colts for a mid first-round pick — which they used on Javon Kinlaw 🙄

  12. Deebo Samuel is nothing more than a hyped up Julian edelman….anything more than a 3rd is just goofy

  13. “The problem with the 49ers is that they aren’t a San Francisco team anymore.”

    That’s like saying that the Giants and Jets are not New York teams because they play in New Jersey.

  14. Think J Schwindt got it right-Samuel doesn’t want to do the RB deal, probably because a hybrid-type player won’t get paid like a full-time WR. He probably told SF about his wish and they didn’t agree that that is what was best for the team. Mystery solved IMO.

  15. Why give up a bunch of draft picks for a play due for a massive payday. SF is dreaming if they think they’ll get more than one first rounder.

  16. Lynch should just cut his losses and get whatever he can get, disgruntled players will not put out the effort (or develop the Ramsey “back” issue) and will be a cancer in the locker room.

    When players want out who get plenty of playing time it is usually they don’t like and trust the coach and/or GM.

  17. There’s been some talk that this has nothing to do with the 49ers organization but rather the state taxes in California. Housing is expensive but you typically will get back more than what you paid there. But income taxes are super high for someone of Deebo’s income.

    We’re talking leaving double digit millions in Uncle Gavin’s coffers and that could have an impact on a blue collar guy from the Carolinas like Deebo.

    Bryce Harper did not sign with the baseball Giants for the same reason. For the Giants to compete they would have had to pay $20-30M more than outside the state.

  18. The bottom line is the Niners screwed up paying all that money to Dee Ford, they screwed up paying Jimmy G all that money and now they have no money to give Deebo and Bosa signing bonuses on huge new contracts. If they lowballed Deebo, they’re beyond stupid based on what he put on tape.

    You have to question ownership and Kyle. We all know Lynch is nothing more than a mouthpiece. Kyle makes all final decisions and Adam Peters runs personnel.

  19. If someone offered them what they offered to Miami to trade up for Trey Lance they’d jump all over it. Stupid decision then.

  20. And what makes Lynch think he has any say in this? Normally, that was how it worked, but anyone that’s paying attention to the NFL lately knows that’s not how things work now. Threats of the franchise tag and making players sit out a year are meaningless since those bluffs are being called and GMs are caving in.

  21. Let’s begin with The Jets No.4 pick in the first round this year. And then a little something extra such as a later round pick this year, and a second-round pick from the Jets in next year draft. That Seems fair.

  22. 49ers will get two firsts for him. Huge bidding war and Deebo is one of a kind and the league-leader in YAC. As usual, lots of people on here are wrong.

  23. A GM told Sports Illustrated the 9ers want two first round pick for Deebo. Good luck with that!

  24. therealraider says:
    April 26, 2022 at 10:59 am
    When will somebody talk about how terrible of a GM John Lynch is? The bust of Solomon Thomas, investing 3 first round picks into a project QB, their current salary cap mess, their best player wanting out of town, Jimmy G hurt like always.

    The list goes on.

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    Or, you could talk about a roster that was basixally built from scratch and has been in 2 of the past 3 NFC championships and in a Super Bowl. Of course not everything Lynch has done has been perfect, but I think it’s pretty naive to say he’s terrible given where the team is now compared to where it was when he and Shanny were brought on board.

  25. do contracts mean nothing anymore? why even sign a contract, the nfl should just go to total free agent system where each year the player can move to another team, keep the salary cap but ditch contracts since there are so many loop holes so these players can do whatever they want anyway

  26. Deebo great player- but he is a hybrid, best suited for the team playing the hybrid. He is not a pure nor WR#1. Not sure what he is smoking but he is in the best situation possible right now with SF – SU and play ball.

  27. 49ers will get two firsts for him. Huge bidding war and Deebo is one of a kind and the league-leader in YAC. As usual, lots of people on here are wrong.

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    As usual, deluded Santa Clara fans thinking this is a fantasy football trade. Good luck getting anything even close to that!

  28. Don’t look for the Chiefs to trade for Deebo. GM Veech, who gave away Hill to Miami, came out and basically said that the Chiefs only has 1 player that matters. He said as long as he has Mahomes, he has a chance in the Play-offs every year, no matter what garbage he puts around him.

  29. Losing Deebo will hurt the 49ers. He seems like the heartbeat of the team the same way Marshawn Lynch was for those Seattle teams. His runs would wake up the offense and defense.

  30. It’s kinda like when Cooper went to the Cowboys. Except Deebo is probably way better than Cooper. XD

  31. He didn’t seem to have a problem paying CA taxes on his rookie deal, lame excuse to cheap shot California. Those guys pay the taxes of the state in which the game is played so yes, he’ll pay CA taxes on the 49er home games and the one against the Rams in LA. He just trying to jump on the receivers are getting paid train. What’s next, players refusing to play the road game in California for their respective teams because they refuse to pay Ca taxes?

  32. He’s seen Trey Lance in practice, wants no part of hitching the rest of his career to buck shot Trey.

  33. Whatever the reasons he wants out– without him and without Jimmy G, that team won’t win six games.

  34. If someone offers a fair price, then they should do it. Go talk to the Jets and get the most you can out of them and move on. He’s a dynamic playmaker and I enjoy watching him play, but he’s just a WR.

  35. California taxes are lower than NY taxes… I don’t know why that narrative continues to be pushed.

  36. Ever since they made that huge trade up to get Trey Lance, the Niner’s have been very paranoid about making any trades where they are not seen as clear “winners.” Everyone has to over pay for Garapollo or Samuel, or they will fall on their own sword. They clearly value the optics, whereas teams like NE or BMore are more likely to cut their losses if the opportunity is there. I would think that the Niners would bite the bullet here, pick up another backup QB before training camp, acquire as many assets as they can for Garapollo and Samuel before they lose them without compensation, and put Lance in and get this ship moving forward. They need to know what you have in Lance. They tied up a ton of draft capital into him and they are talking like he won’t be a full time starter in year 2 of his career. He needs to play. Accept that there will be growing pains and try to minimize those by drafting significant players to put around him and let them grow together. There really is no other choice. Garapollo should have been traded before the QB musical chairs got to this point. At this point, the only options for getting him out of the NFC are likely to be Houston or Miami. Miami has no significant draft capital. Houston has a tasty looking 2nd rounder at #37. That ought to get it done. As for Samuel, a minimum 1st and 4th in this draft and the cap space to sign him would be needed. Again, Houston has the ammo to pull that off. Maybe Houston trades back from #13 for a later #1 and a 4th, then flips that haul to San Fran for Samuel, and signs Samuel to an extension. They would have Brandin Cooks, Philip Dorsett, and Deebo Samuel for receivers along with a few others, and Garapollo at QB. That would be a great start on the rebuild, along with a shiny new Left Tackle at pick #3. San Fran would have 12 picks with 7 picks in the top 134 picks, and there are a lot of good players in that range. Of course they could be major traders and use some of those picks to trade up for specific impact players. The Niners need to cut their losses, burn the boats, head out, and don’t look back. Don’t cry for Deebo. They way he plays is going to shorten his career anyway. Maybe the Niners use the picks and draft Christian Watson, another NDSU player, for Lance to throw to. Lots of possibilities. Pick up an edge rusher and a CB. Bolster roster depth. Maybe trade a pick or two into the future. A lot can be accomplished. Or, are they afraid to be exposed over Lance? More will be revealed.

  37. radar773 says:
    April 26, 2022 at 11:31 am
    “The problem with the 49ers is that they aren’t a San Francisco team anymore.”

    That’s like saying that the Giants and Jets are not New York teams because they play in New Jersey.
    ********************************************************************************

    The giants and Jets are not NY teams because they play in New Jersey.

  38. “do contracts mean nothing anymore? why even sign a contract, the nfl should just go to total free agent system where each year the player can move to another team, keep the salary cap but ditch contracts since there are so many loop holes so these players can do whatever they want anyway”

    The 49ers could cut him whenever they want and only assume a cap hit, while Samuel gets nothing. So to answer your question, no they do not, and the NFL wants it that way

  39. If the Packers offer a third and 6th round pick you better jump on it because he’s not worth anything more.

  40. religionisforidiots says:
    April 26, 2022 at 11:10 am
    Should come to Buffalo and be apart of the next dynasty
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    Funny how your misuse of “a part” made your comment say the opposite of what you intended.

  41. Watch this guy go to a different offense and not be as impactful. Le’Veon Bell to the Jets 2.0

  42. lol there‘a a guy on here that thinks they’ll get a top 5 pick plus later picks, hilarious and delusional

  43. The key is Deebo probably doesn’t want to play a hybrid role anymore unless his contract is fully guaranteed. Deebo had one outstanding year , but he hasn’t shown he can duplicate that like Hill or Adams.

  44. The key is Deebo probably doesn’t want to play a hybrid role anymore unless his contract is fully guaranteed. Deebo had one outstanding year , but he hasn’t shown he can duplicate that like Hill or Adams. He doesn’t yet deserve their money.

  45. What’s his value if he doesn’t want to contribute to the running game? I mean that’s what made him special this last year. His previous 2 years would be in the bottom half of the league. You’re not gonna break the bank for someone who is a hybrid player. He’s not a top 10 receiver but if you factor in his ability to run the ball he might be. Teams would trade for the Deebo we saw last year. The previous 2 years he may be worth a 4th round pick at best with no raise. Player empowerment can only go so far. The ball doesn’t lie.

  46. docboles says:
    April 26, 2022 at 11:29 am
    Deebo Samuel is nothing more than a hyped up Julian edelman….anything more than a 3rd is just goofy
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    Wasn’t Edelman a super bowl MVP a few years back? A 3rd for a Super bowl MVP? Interesting

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