Matt Groh on Bailey Zappe: “This guy is a winner”

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Time and again, certain football experts say winning isn’t relevant to quarterbacks. Time and again, football people are drawn to quarterbacks who win.

Consider the assessment of Patriots director of player personnel on newly-drafted Western Kentucky quarterback Bailey Zappe.

“You put on the film of Bailey Zappe and it’s hard not to like him,” Groh told reporters on Saturday regarding Zappe, a fourth-round pick and the fifth quarterback drafted. “It’s a lot of completions, it’s a lot of touchdown passes, and it’s a lot of wins. This guy is a winner, the way he’s able to lead and command his team.

“He’s got a lot of great traits that you want in a quarterback. Most importantly, success, with the way he’s able to produce on the field and do what’s right for the team and get the ball to the playmakers, which he was fortunate enough to have at Houston Baptist and at Western Kentucky.”

Zappe obviously won’t have many chances to win in New England, given the presence of second-year starter Mac Jones. Groh was asked about the benefit of drafting a quarterback despite having a young starter in the early years of his rookie deal.

“There’s always value in having good players on your team,” Groh said, “and Bailey is a good player and he’s going to add value to our team. It’s going to be up to him to kind of carve out what role that is here initially and then going forward. . . . One guy is only on the field, but you’d better have another good one or two or three or whoever it is in the system coming up, because you never know when those guys are going to be needed, and if you’re short at that position, you’re going to be in real trouble. Just like a college program that might bring in a highly recruited quarterback one year, you can’t really afford to skip a year. You’ve got to have plenty of talent there at that position, and we had an opportunity to add Bailey and tried to add some good value to the quarterback position.”

This doesn’t mean Zappe is a threat to Jones. But football is the ultimate meritocracy, and the Patriots are the ultimate example of allowing the best players to play. If Zappe ever beats out Jones, so be it.

32 responses to “Matt Groh on Bailey Zappe: “This guy is a winner”

  1. Nice to see that BB has already set up Matt Groh as his fall guy when Bailey Zappe goes full-on Stidham in a year or so!

  2. nytro says:
    April 30, 2022 at 9:33 pm
    Nice to see that BB has already set up Matt Groh as his fall guy when Bailey Zappe goes full-on Stidham in a year or so!

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    Just curious, but how does a Jets fan whose team has drafted people like Mark Sanchez, Christian Hackenberg, Geno Smith or now Zach Wilson, in the last 15 years, have a place in critiquing QBs?

    Stidham would easily push Zach Wilson on your roster right now.

    Stidham played a Div 1 SEC schedule and Zach Wilson played a Div 2 schedule. That alone shows me that it would be true.

    LOL

    Regardless, your team actually PASSED on Mac Jones for Zach Wilson. How do you people live with it?

  3. From all Groh is saying it’s possible this guy could unseat Jones. Jones could turn out to be another belichick bust.
    In fact it might be good for the pats if this guy is a pleasant surprise like Brady because with Jones it’s gonna be hard to make the playoffs- will always be behind bills and dolphins and jets are closing fast.

  4. That was an awkward press conference. Reporters let the rookie off easy. No secret who was the true architect of that draft. Last year’s draft was excellent – this year’s …wasn’t.

  5. It’s funny to see people arguing about which one can predict the future. Zappe could be a better QB in the long run, or MacJones could win multiple divisions and even a SB, or somewhere in between. No one knows the outcome at this point.

  6. bobhk says:
    April 30, 2022 at 9:47 pm

    From all Groh is saying it’s possible this guy could unseat Jones. Jones could turn out to be another belichick bust.
    In fact it might be good for the pats if this guy is a pleasant surprise like Brady because with Jones it’s gonna be hard to make the playoffs- will always be behind bills and dolphins and jets are closing fast.

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    “It’s gonna be hard to make the playoffs”? They made the playoffs in Jones’s first season. Even the Pats’ 20-year run ruling the division wasn’t “always”, so to suggest these Bills have the same staying power is more than a little premature. So far their biggest accomplishment is flaming out in the playoffs.

  7. Stidham couldn’t even push my 16 year old who’s never even thrown a football. Lol.

    Always wrong. I love it. Lol

  8. Stop the nonsense. There is no way that Zappe ever pushes MJones. Stidham is in the last year of his contract and it was time for the Pats to draft a mid/late round QB to develop and maybe sell to someone. Hoyer is on his way to Pats coaching assistant.

  9. touchback6 says:
    April 30, 2022 at 9:46 pm
    nytro says:
    April 30, 2022 at 9:33 pm

    Just curious, but how does a Jets fan whose team has drafted people like Mark Sanchez, Christian Hackenberg, Geno Smith or now Zach Wilson, in the last 15 years, have a place in critiquing QBs?

    Stidham would easily push Zach Wilson on your roster right now.

    Stidham played a Div 1 SEC schedule and Zach Wilson played a Div 2 schedule. That alone shows me that it would be true.

    LOL

    Regardless, your team actually PASSED on Mac Jones for Zach Wilson. How do you people live with it?

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    Sorry dude, I’ve never been a Jets fan. Just one of the millions of NFL fans who have enjoyed the Cheatriot’s fall back to their pre-Tammy mediocrity. It is truly delicious 😋

    Can’t wait until they bring back those hideous “Pathetic Pat Patriot” uniforms. The return to AFC cellar-dwelling will be complete.

    And oh, don’t forget Mr. Kraft is watching — and taking names!

  10. Fans that live their lives to see the Pats demise after 29 years of glory.Some don’t even care if ther own teams win. And the Pat Patriot unis are pathetic?

  11. There has been buzz for years Belichick wants to have two QBs on the field. He’s installed several double pass plays. Maybe he has something up his cutoff sleeves.

  12. Jimmypinthe416 says:
    April 30, 2022 at 10:13 pm
    Stidham couldn’t even push my 16 year old who’s never even thrown a football. Lol.

    Always wrong. I love it. Lol

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    How can I be “always” wrong when I’ve been right so many times in these situations? Hilarious.

    Here’s the latest:

    KC is in cap hell. They just dealt Tyreek Hill. I had no idea how or why they thought it would make sense to pay all their best players bloated deals at the same time.

    Right again.

    He was dealt.

    LOL

    Too easy It’s like taking candy from a baby. It’s just too easy. Our entire society thinks things happen overnight and will be sustainable when it’s clear those aren’t sustainable decisions.

    Technology and the internet has made us more dumb as a society, yourself included.

    I can see why you’re ticked off, too. Your coach is still Mike Tomlin and your QB is Mitch Trubisky for 2 years or possibly another QB bust from central PA who might help sell tickets like it’s the 1980s.

  13. I just saw a highlight reel. HIs receivers were usually open by 5 yards. That is not an NFL play. And for those saying he will be the new JE? Kid is not fast. 4th round seems too early for this guy.

  14. New England doesn’t have a QB, they’ll be drafting them every year for a while (while being completely irrelevant and bereft of talent).

  15. The facts show Jones played poorly over the last 5 games. 6 TDs and 5 INTs didn’t make Bill happy. He knows the game and he knows that drop-off may well be because opponents eventually figured Jones out and are able to shrink the field on him. Zappe was well worth taking a shot on in the 4th round.

  16. Stidham is in his fifth year. Probably gone this year. Definitely not back next year. That leaves Jones and Hoyer. Makes sense BB wants another QB on the roster.

  17. Belichick finally realizes that it was Brady’s offense that gave Pats first round bye and SB, not his PAPER TIGER defense.

  18. Zappe played in the Sunbelt and with out the likes of App State; it is more like bad FCS. They beat the pulp out of teams and he threw bombs to wide open receivers. This is not going to happen in the NFL.

  19. laxcoach37 says:
    May 1, 2022 at 10:42 am
    Zappe played in the Sunbelt and with out the likes of App State; it is more like bad FCS. They beat the pulp out of teams and he threw bombs to wide open receivers. This is not going to happen in the NFL.

    Which is why he’s going to be Mac’s backup. He wasn’t drafted to be the starter. If he exceeds expectations then good for him.

  20. Seems like a great kid who’ll be a good fit in New England. He could possibly develop into an NFL starter, but it will never be ahead of a healthy Mac Jones.

  21. Pats fans were hoping for a repeat of last year – which was BB’s 1st great draft in ages.

    But this one was a total head-scratcher. Of course it could work out, but as a fan of a division foe, I was glad to see what they did. It didn’t seem like it had any rhyme or reason, or real vision behind it.

  22. None of this really matters, since awesome Jarrett Stidham is obviously your starting quarterback.

  23. Well at least one of the QB’S will have the outstanding NKeal Harry to pass to….I mean he was supposed to be the next great thing….fight TB6. Fun to watch the sensitive egos of Pats fans on display as they continue their gradual slide to obscurity. Can’t wait to see Grumpy old cheating BB retire. LOL

  24. Fun to watch the sensitive egos of Pats fans on display as they continue their gradual slide to obscurity.

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    Steeler fans should know everything there is about obscurity

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