Could N’Keal Harry move to tight end?

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In his excellent weekly Sunday column regarding all things Patriots, Mike Reiss of ESPN.com floats an interesting idea regarding Patriots receiver N'Keal Harry.

It’s not a report or a prediction. It’s just a casual, nonchalant comment made in a way that potentially is backed up more than just wild speculation.

Harry, entering his fourth NFL season and the last of his rookie contract in New England, has been absent from offseason workouts. He wanted a trade last year but that never happened. He finished the season with 12 game appearances and 12 total receptions.

Reiss describes Harry as a “long shot” to make the roster “barring injuries” ahead of him on the receiver depth chart. Then Reiss mentions the possibility of Harry seeking a change in status.

“Harry’s best chance might be to ask about a possible switch to tight end to compete with [Devin] Asiasi and [Dalton] Keene as TE3 behind Hunter Henry and Jonnu Smith.”

There’s currently no reason to think that Harry is contemplating that. It’s fair to wonder whether the team is hoping that he will, whether the notion of a position switch is being planted as a message to Harry.

He still may hope to be cut or released in order to get a fresh start somewhere else. It just hasn’t worked for him in New England. Could it work for him elsewhere? It seems inevitable that he’ll et a chance to find out.

88 responses to “Could N’Keal Harry move to tight end?

  1. I think the Hamilton Tiger Cats have enough tight ends so that might be a challenge for him…

  2. Belichick has said TE is the most complicated position on the Pats offense, besides QB. Harry often didn’t even know where to line up at WR. Time to cut your losses and move on. Funny how people seem to think the Pats are the only team to ever whiff on a 1rst rnd pick(#32). Newsflash: every team has.

    On the other hand, they need to hit on this kid from Baylor. And on Strange.

  3. The best plays I saw Harry make were when he was used as a blocker, so the TE idea isn’t too bad. But given Harry’s overall contributions and attitude, I wouldn’t mind seeing him try it on another team.

  4. Pencil Harry in as the #2 TE. Make Jonnu compete for the #3 spot.
    We may as well have kept the worthless LaCosse for the amount of production we got out of Jonnu— at a million times the cost.

  5. 6 Super Bowl wins and people just want to pick apart the drafts. Yes, BB whiffs like so many others do on draft picks. Those other teams that swing and miss so often don’t have 6 Super Bowl wins to show for it. Before people point out Brady, keep in mind that great drafting teams like the Packers and Steelers have had that kind of QB stability in the 2000’s and still have trouble getting to Super Bowls let alone winning them. I’ll take BB’s draft whiffs over my Bears’ monumental flaws any day of the week and 10 times on Sunday.

  6. dabears2485 says:
    June 5, 2022 at 10:56 am
    6 Super Bowl wins and people just want to pick apart the drafts. Yes, BB whiffs like so many others do on draft picks

    ——-

    1) BB whiffs in 1st round picks a lot
    2) BB hasn’t won a single postseason game with the Pats where Tom Brady was not at QB

    Let’s hope he pulls it together this year

  7. We just have to remember the timing of when Harry was drafted. He was drafted when Gronk has just announced his retirement. Rather than drafting a direct replacing Bellichick went for a tweener. A slow, big, tall receiver who claim of fame in college was to win congested catches. Throw the up and he will get it type. That style simple would not and did not work for NFL. Bellichick just did not want to admitt that he made a mistake in judgement in this draft and Gronk replacement situation. Harry took up precious WR position at NE

  8. 6 SB wins with Brady pulling his fat out of the fire. He may be a good coach but he’s a below average GM.

  9. They stayed where they were at and didn’t trade down in the first to get Strange, so maybe BB knows what hes doing now in the draft room.

  10. Their entire winning legacy is built on one lucky 6th round pick.
    Deal with it.

  11. The next bust is already in the building. Let’s just move on from this one.

  12. Sounds like a great move. He was lousy WR, now he can be lousy TE as well. As far as those talking about how lousy a GM Belichick is. He has some how managed to put together teams that have won 6 Super Bowls. What difference does it make if he whiffs on anyone? The goal is to win with the roster he as a GM has assembled. In that regard he is the best of all time. And please spare me the Brady won them all. All by himself. Brady was mediocre at best in the 1st several and carried by the defense and special teams, specifically Vinatieri. Long 40 plus yard fgs. to win a S Bowl are not gimmes. Or FGs. in blizzard conditions. Brady is great. But how many would he have won on the Lions/Browns/WFT/Jets in the last 20 years?

  13. bobhk says:
    June 5, 2022 at 12:53 pm
    6 SB wins with Brady pulling his fat out of the fire. He may be a good coach but he’s a below average GM.
    ________________________________________________________

    With BB’s massive ego You just know the fact Brady won a super bowl without him while BB hasn’t won anything is driving him crap crazy. I’d bet my life he thinks about that fact an unhealthy amount of time over the course of his day.

  14. If Billy turned 6th rounder Brady into a Hall Of Famer, then it should be a snap to make Harry into one. Right?

  15. tedmurph says:
    June 5, 2022 at 10:01 am
    Belichick has said TE is the most complicated position on the Pats offense, besides QB. Harry often didn’t even know where to line up at WR. Time to cut your losses and move on. Funny how people seem to think the Pats are the only team to ever whiff on a 1rst rnd pick(#32). Newsflash: every team has.
    ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    Yes, teams do whiff on players often. However, imagine that only one receiver is taken off the board when it’s your turn to draft. Still available are, Deebo Samuel, A.J. Brown, D.K. Metcalf, Diontae Johnson, Terry McLaurin and Hunter Renfrow.

  16. Guys with questionable intangibles rarely an out, and this guy had some red big flags. I can’t believe Belichick drafted this kid, but I’m sure he had his reasons. Either that or he was getting bad advice from someone.

  17. But how many would he have won on the Lions/Browns/WFT/Jets in the last 20 years?
    —-
    Zero.

    The real question is how many times he would have even made the playoffs without his little scheme to deflate footballs.

    Cmon Tommy fan club entertain me. Say it. “He meant weight loss” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  18. es, teams do whiff on players often. However, imagine that only one receiver is taken off the board when it’s your turn to draft. Still available are, Deebo Samuel, A.J. Brown, D.K. Metcalf, Diontae Johnson, Terry McLaurin and Hunter Renfrow.

    ———————————————————————————————–
    Imagine taking Trubinski when Mahomes and DWatson were on the board.

    Imagine taking Mayfield and Darnold when JAllen was on the board.

    JJefferson was the 4th WR taken.

    CKupp was the 7th WR taken.

    You can do this all day, with every team. As I said before.

    NHarry had red flags? No he didn’t All the draft publications had him going late 1rst/early 2nd. Right where he went. By no means am I defending the pick, but let’s try to stick with facts. The reason Harry was drafted was the Pats had trouble scoring in the red zone, then they lost their only threat, Gronk. Harry’s forte was contested catches. They missed. That’s it.

    The number of Pro Bowlers and Championships the Pats had over the 20 year dynasty attests to Belichicks GM acumen. The idea that Brady was dragging around a bunch of scrubs with a HC/GM that was clueless is ludicrous.

  19. All by himself. Brady was mediocre at best in the 1st several and carried by the defense and special teams, specifically Vinatieri
    ——
    Careful. The fan club gets easily triggered when you hit them with the straight up facts. Brady was carried by his teammates in all of his Super Bowls.

    Every.

    Single.

    One.

    Montana won all his rings for his team. Tommy won 0 for his. Some GOAT…

  20. mackcarrington says:
    June 5, 2022 at 4:15 pm
    If Billy turned 6th rounder Brady into a Hall Of Famer, then it should be a snap to make Harry into one. Right?
    —-
    Bill didn’t turn Brady into all hall of famer. His teammates did. He was just along for the ride.

    And “teammates” that includes the equipment guys. You all know what I mean by that. 😉 😉😁

  21. The reason Harry was drafted was the Pats had trouble scoring in the red zone, then they lost their only threat, Gronk. Harry’s forte was contested catches. They missed. That’s it.
    ——
    It’s funny…if you look back on the post draft reports from 2019- and you’ll find very few if any at all that panned this pick.

  22. dabears2485,

    All Belichick’s greatness was built on Brady’s ability of turning cheap slot receivers into top playmakers. Without such a QB, Belichick would be worse than an average HC.

    Just imagine if your Bears had a QB who could produce top offense out of cheap squad and scored 24 or more in back to back playoff games, your Bears would be a dynasty.

  23. Tom Brady is a nice little system QB with a little arm. Nothing more. That’s all he is. He ain’t all that. Sorry fan club. 😢

  24. Oh good, the copy and paste king and the one obsessed with inflated balls have sniffed out a Pats thread.

  25. Brady was medicare at best in 1st several

    +++++++++++++

    That is what Belichick the idiot had believed. That is why he pushed Brady out. That is why he is screwed now.

  26. Tedmurph,

    Let us wait and if Belichick will call plays in the coming season.

    You believe he invented the system, right? So if it doesn’t work out well, don’t shamelessly blame Joe judge.

  27. “The idea that Brady was dragging around a bunch of scrubs with a HC/GM that was clueless is ludicrous.”
    _____________________________

    Brady was a GM’s dream. Taking pay cuts so that the team could afford better players. Players wanting to take pay cuts to play w/ the GOAT. Brady making everyone around him better.

    BB is the best coach ever, but I’ve never been impressed w/ him as a GM. Can he build a contender without the GOAT QB? I don’t think he can, but he can prove me wrong in the years ahead.

  28. Tom Brady is a nice little system QB.

    ++++++++++

    As I said to Tedmurph : if you believe Belichick invented the system, fine. But then, he should step up and call plays if offense struggles in the coming season.

    I think you are old enough to have some self esteem, don’t shamelessly blame whoever else calls the plays on offense, OK?

  29. BB is the best coach ever, but I’ve never been impressed w/ him as a GM.
    ——
    I’ve always said it’s so tough to pick a GOAT coach. There are pros and cons to the argument for all top tier coaches including Bill.

    If I was forced to pick one I think it would have to be Lombardi. Bill is a football icon. But Lombardi is a cultural icon. Nobody is going to touch Lombardi’s playoff winning pct. Lombardi was named on a teams ring of fame (Washington) after just ONE season coaching with them. Let that sink in.

  30. Not impressed with Belichick as a GM? He wrote the book on how to build a team in the cap era. Always ahead of the curve. Players didn’t come to play with Brady, they came to play for Belichick.

    Brady was never the highest paid QB, but he wasn’t playing for nothing. His money was continually restructured into bonuses. Brady’s dead money was a main part of the reason they had no cap room when Brady left.

    Almost every year of Belichick’s tenure, the Pats were in the top 5 in Pro Bowlers. Most drafted. Usually they drafted at they end of every round, or traded the pick. Almost never overpaid for the wrong guy. Always let a guy walk a year early, rather than a year late. Never had a top heavy team. Always found 2/3 vets with a year or 2 left in the tank. Robbed other teams of guys like Dillon, Harrison Moss, Welker, Van Noy, etc.

    Belichick had a short cold streak in the draft. But, they’ll write books about his job as a GM

  31. ted, with the exception of billsrthefuture, who mostly posts rational thought except when the hidden psychological impact of the Bills never winning a super bowl temporarily distorts his reality, you are preaching to guys like Lee who wouldn’t say a kind word about Belichick if he saved a baby from a burning building.

    Just sit back and enjoy tonight’s Celtics game, another Boston franchise that has inflicted deep psychological wounds in fans of other franchises.

  32. He wrote a book on how to build a team in cap era.

    +++++++++

    Lol, let us see if he can still do it when he has to spend a lot on offense, AND how the offense will be like. It seems that Belichick believers have never heard of logic.

    Por bowlers? Lol, like no one knew Bucs defenders until they made to big games?

  33. In Lombardi’s day they played 14 games and only had to win 1 or 2 games to win a Championship. He coached 1 yr in Washington, went 7-5 and missed the playoffs.

    Belichick has coached 43 playoff games, not counting as an assistant, on his way to 6 Championships(plus 2 more as an assistant). Has a decent chance to have the most wins all time. Lombardi? Please.

  34. “I’ve always said it’s so tough to pick a GOAT coach. There are pros and cons to the argument for all top tier coaches including Bill.

    If I was forced to pick one I think it would have to be Lombardi. Bill is a football icon. But Lombardi is a cultural icon. Nobody is going to touch Lombardi’s playoff winning pct. Lombardi was named on a teams ring of fame (Washington) after just ONE season coaching with them. Let that sink in.”
    ________________________

    To be fair, I don’t know much about Lombardi’s career – except that he was a legend who won an awful lot.

    I think it’s hard to compare eras, which will always make the GOAT argument at any position kind of tough.

    I only know what I’ve seen in my lifetime, and BB is just a scary coach to go up against. He always seems to figure it out, and he’s head & shoulders above just about every peer he has had. There have been some excellent coaches, but BB’s teams are ALWAYS a tough out, and it often has very little to do w/ the talent.

    His teams almost never beat themselves. It’s the situational stuff he does more than anything – they’re ready for every scenario.

  35. “Just sit back and enjoy tonight’s Celtics game, another Boston franchise that has inflicted deep psychological wounds in fans of other franchises.”
    _____________________

    1 title in 30 years? You might be overplaying that one.

  36. I hear ya tl, just killing 45 mins. I ignore wle, but hard not to call out the baloney sometimes. Go Celts!

  37. Ted and Goodellmustgo,

    What? Belichick is a genius on offense in your opinions but he doesn’t have to call plays when offense struggles?

    You know it is idiotic to think so, don’t you? If you really believe what you have believed, what are you afraid of, huh?

  38. Belichick has coached 43 playoff games, not counting as an assistant, on his way to 6 Championships(plus 2 more as an assistant). Has a decent chance to have the most wins all time. Lombardi? Please.
    —-
    I’m gonna be devils advocate here. Yes Bill has the most rings. But he does not have the best playoff record (Lombardi) nor does he have anything close to the best regular season coaching record in the Super Bowl era (Coach Madden does. Lombardi’s is also better), and he doesn’t have the wins record yet and that’s not a lock he gets it. And then there’s Spygate and that still annoys me that it happened.

    Lombardi imo is the greatest coach of all time in any sport. Cultural icon. Never had a losing season. 5 NFL championships in 7 years I believe. His level of excellence can’t be matched.

  39. The Celtics won the NBA Championship in 2008. That must be 30 years in Buffalo time. The Red Sox have won 4 Championships. Bruins 1. Pats 6. THIS CENTURY! How have the Buffalo MLB and NBA teams done? How have the Bills done? Sabres? Nope. Maybe one of the minor league teams won something?

  40. William Lee says:
    June 5, 2022 at 7:10 pm
    He wrote a book on how to build a team in cap era.

    +++++++++

    Lol, let us see if he can still do it when he has to spend a lot on offense, AND how the offense will be like. It seems that Belichick believers have never heard of logic.

    Por bowlers? Lol, like no one knew Bucs defenders until they made to big games?
    ————————————–

    20 years of evidence but you need more. OK. Enjoy your serving of humble pie this year. It’s sour grapes flavor, just for you.

  41. “The Celtics won the NBA Championship in 2008. That must be 30 years in Buffalo time. The Red Sox have won 4 Championships. Bruins 1. Pats 6. THIS CENTURY! How have the Buffalo MLB and NBA teams done? How have the Bills done? Sabres? Nope. Maybe one of the minor league teams won something?”
    ________________________________

    I’m a Yankees fan, too. I don’t crow about the run they had in the ’90’s, and I certainly don’t crow about all of the championships before that.

    I don’t like Boston, but I’m kind of rooting for the Celts. Recency bias – Golden State has been a MUCH more dominant team. As have the Lakers, Spurs, Pistons, Heat, etc.

    I’m happy being a Bills fan, btw. It’s fun to try to earn that 1st one. For you guys, championships are expected, and I think Boston fans have become very blaise about winning.

  42. Dave,

    I don’t know what evidence you are talking about.

    To accomplish anything, Patriots need Brady’s offense to get first round bye and scored 24 or more in back to back playoff games (do you know how hard it is?) with the cheap squad given by Belichick the CHEAP, something no other QB would be able to do with the cheap squad Brady had.

  43. “Through 2020, Belichick owns the most wins among all active coaches and ranks third all-time with 311 total victories as a head coach. Belichick’s winning percentage of . 678 ranks second in NFL history among coaches with 150 or more wins to the . 682 by George Halas.”

    With 28 to 32 teams in the NFL and free agency cap space to contend with.
    You guys are so silly sometimes it makes me laugh. Lombardi didn’t have to do that. Halas didn’t. Shula didn’t. NOBODY comes close with all that to deal with.

  44. I think only Patriot fans care about the Belichik/Brady thing. It’s really quite boring.

  45. I always say it, but Boston fans could be like the elder statesmen of fandom w/ how much they’ve won. But they always go for petty.

  46. Harry could move to Alaska it won’t make him a better football player.

  47. Cap space wouldn’t be a big challenge if a QB doesn’t need top and expensive WR group to produce top offense and score 24 or more in at least two playoff games.

    Do you know that during Brady’s era, on average Pats offense was better than Belichick’s defense? AT LEAST 50% OF THE COACHES WILL LOOK LIKE A GENIUS WITH SUCH A QB.

  48. Yankees fan? how about jumping on the bandwagon. What is it, 400 from Buffalo to NYC? Gee, I don’t have a CFB team. Think I’ll be an Alabama fan.

    Buffalo fans are like Cubs fans before they finally won it(with Boston’s old GM). Revelling in misery and futility. Actually, Red Sox fans were there too.

    Trust me, it’s not blaise around here. The expectations are high, but believe me, if the Celts win this series, this town goes nuts. Speaking of which…

  49. patsbrat says:
    June 5, 2022 at 10:44 am
    The best plays I saw Harry make were when he was used as a blocker, so the TE idea isn’t too bad.
    ————————————

    Blocking 190 lb CBs as a 225 lb WR is a lot different than blocking DEs and LBs as a severely undersized and inexperienced TE. It really just turns a strength into a weakness.

    The purpose of a potential conversion to TE would be to be able to run routes against slower LBs instead of faster DBs.

  50. Why should Boston fans be ‘nice’. They get attacked from every angle. WE say look at the record, or the trophy case. Bills fans are starting to act the same way, and they haven’t won anything yet. It’s what fans do. Talk trash when you win, cry refs, cheating, bad luck, etc when you lose. Man up. It’s part of being a fan.

  51. Lombardi was a great coach, however there were a lot fewer teams then, there was no such thing as a salary cap or free agency then…
    BB has had to contend with so many more obstacles & yet STILL had his team in 9 SuperBowls winning 6 & a perennial contender for 2 strait decades…..no real comparison in achievements, Bill wins hands down

  52. billsrthefuture says:
    June 5, 2022 at 7:17 pm
    “I’ve always said it’s so tough to pick a GOAT coach. There are pros and cons to the argument for all top tier coaches including Bill.

    If I was forced to pick one I think it would have to be Lombardi. Bill is a football icon. But Lombardi is a cultural icon. Nobody is going to touch Lombardi’s playoff winning pct. Lombardi was named on a teams ring of fame (Washington) after just ONE season coaching with them. Let that sink in.”
    ________________________

    To be fair, I don’t know much about Lombardi’s career – except that he was a legend who won an awful lot.

    I think it’s hard to compare eras, which will always make the GOAT argument at any position kind of tough.

    I only know what I’ve seen in my lifetime, and BB is just a scary coach to go up against. He always seems to figure it out, and he’s head & shoulders above just about every peer he has had. There have been some excellent coaches, but BB’s teams are ALWAYS a tough out

    ———-

    They didn’t look like a “tough out” last January when the defense yielded a TD on every Bills’ possession

  53. Lombardi only coached 10 playoff games. Good percentage, but doesn’t compare. Plus, he never made the Playoffs without Bart Starr(see how dumb they is?)

  54. davedsone says:
    June 5, 2022 at 7:45 pm
    “Through 2020, Belichick owns the most wins among all active coaches and ranks third all-time with 311 total victories as a head coach. Belichick’s winning percentage of . 678 ranks second in NFL history among coaches with 150 or more wins to the . 682 by George Halas.”

    With 28 to 32 teams in the NFL and free agency cap space to contend with.
    You guys are so silly sometimes it makes me laugh. Lombardi didn’t have to do that. Halas didn’t. Shula didn’t. NOBODY comes close with all that to deal with.

    —-
    And that’s the point I’m making. It’s too hard to say one way or the other who is the definitive GOAT of coaches. You can make arguments for and against with any great coach. I believe it’s Lombardi but there are good arguments against that as well. Shula has the wins record, the undefeated season albeit with the easiest schedule in NFL history and arguably the best coaching tree in the league is his..but somehow has zero titles with Marino. Belichick, Walsh, Noll have had their most success with one QB. Joe Gibbs has won with 3 and none of those 3 are great. Gibbs brought an offensive scheme to the league that was decades ahead of its time. IMO he’s the most underrated coach in NFL history. Landry helped innovate the sport too. But he stayed too long and there’s a chance Bill might make the same mistake if Jones is a bust. You also have Marv Levy who like Lombardi almost immediately turned around the fortunes of his own team and will probably end up as the only coach to take his team to 4 Super Bowls in a row. Obviously never won one though.

    I can go on and on with all of them.

  55. They didn’t look like a “tough out” last January when the defense yielded a TD on every Bills’ possession

    That included JC Jackson getting a wedgie from Stefon Diggs all game like he usually does- oddly enough the very one and the same JC Jackson who the Tommy fan club gloats that Bill let walk and now they say the secondary sucks. Yes they’re all that insecure and it really is as hilarious as it looks 😀

  56. “Yankees fan? how about jumping on the bandwagon. What is it, 400 from Buffalo to NYC? Gee, I don’t have a CFB team. Think I’ll be an Alabama fan.”
    __________________

    LOL!!!!

    I mean – you get that the Pats have fans from a SEVEN STATE REGION, correct?

    Man, is that funny.

    Been a Yanks fan my whole life. Closest baseball team to me, and they’re not really that far.

  57. “Why should Boston fans be ‘nice’. They get attacked from every angle. ”
    __________________

    Oh, you poor things. It’s lonely at the top.

    Fans do hate Boston. It’s part jealousy – but your fanbase doesn’t do that any favors. I never envy you guys, at all.

  58. packerlies says:
    June 5, 2022 at 7:50 pm
    I think only Patriot fans care about the Belichik/Brady thing. It’s really quite boring.

    Nah it’s really only Tommy fans. The most insecure “fans” in any sport anywhere and it’s really hilarious to watch. They take anything that isn’t passionate praise of their hero that personally like their mom was dissed. 😀

    That’s why the Nick Wrights Rob Parkers and Max Kellermans of the media have their fun with them and I don’t blame them at all 🙂

  59. nhpats, do you get some kind of reward for posting the same thing over 1000 times?

  60. Pats will have a top 8 offense today year, stop 5 special teams, & a top 15 defense….. my guess is 10-7 or 11-6& back into the playoffs

  61. And I don’t care who hates us. Don’t know if it’s more funny or pathetic.

  62. tedmurph says:
    June 5, 2022 at 10:01 am
    Belichick has said TE is the most complicated position on the Pats offense, besides QB. Harry often didn’t even know where to line up at WR. Time to cut your losses and move on. Funny how people seem to think the Pats are the only team to ever whiff on a 1rst rnd pick(#32). Newsflash: every team has.

    On the other hand, they need to hit on this kid from Baylor. And on Strange.
    ———————————————————————————
    Tedmurph, dabears and charliecharger, imho made good points.
    William Lee, the majority of your anti-Belichick arguments are ridiculous. You either truly do not understand what goes into building a Championship team that wins repeatedly as the Patriots have or you’re so full of hatred and resentment that you’re blinded by your character defects.
    Instead of spouting the same arguments here on a regular basis, why don’t you type them all up and send them to the management of 31 other NFL teams, asking for feedback.
    Then gather up names of former coaches and executives and ask their opinions on your point of view.
    I don’t expect the majority to agree with you, (and with good reason). As for some of the other antiBelichick people. I suggest. You do the same thing, but a warning, you won’t like the answers.

  63. tedmurph says:
    June 5, 2022 at 5:43 pm
    The number of Pro Bowlers and Championships the Pats had over the 20 year dynasty attests to Belichicks GM acumen. The idea that Brady was dragging around a bunch of scrubs with a HC/GM that was clueless is ludicrous.

    —–

    How quickly we forget, BB had Scott Pioli for his first three SBs.

  64. Bill was an average coach before Tom Brady, and he’s and average coach after Tom Brady.

  65. “5.5 state region and the Blue Jays are the closest team to Buffalo.”
    __________________

    I’m not a Canadian. I’m a New Yorker.

    Why do I need to justify my fandom to anyone? I care as much about the Yankees as the Bills. Sorry that I’ve gotten to enjoy a few ‘ships (and even a dynasty) in my life.

  66. Belichick has always had final say on players. Lately, he’s been listening more to his staff and less to his college coaching buddies. As for Pioli, he’s been out of the league for 3 yrs.

  67. Yes… BB is a genius…

    But…

    He hasn’t won anything without that “other guy” on his roster…

    And that “other guy” keeps winning rings, and going deep into the playoffs…

  68. This dude is just a bad football player. Can’t read a defense, his routes aren’t great and for a bigger dude he’s a weakling in traffic. Just a terrible player. Woof

  69. packerlies says:
    June 5, 2022 at 7:51 pm
    Harry could move to Alaska it won’t make him a better football player.
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    What about a better hockey player?

  70. FYI, There are only 3 coaches in NFL History to win SBs with multiple QBs.
    Gibbs is a special snowflake who also dominated NASCAR.
    Seifert had Montana and Young.
    Parcells had Belichick coaching his D. He was nothing special without BB.

    The without QB1 angle is no angle at all.

  71. Parcel was nothing special without BB.

    ++++++++++++

    BB was a garbage unless OTHERs gave him an offense, including his time in Giants.

  72. Parcells had Belichick coaching his D. He was nothing special without BB.
    —-
    Parcells is a sub .500 head coach without Bill on his staff. Literally.

  73. If Harry can throw they might try him at QB. They can use some help there.

  74. GoodellMustGo says:
    June 5, 2022 at 5:39 pm

    Zero.

    The real question is how many times he would have even made the playoffs without his little scheme to deflate footballs.

    Cmon Tommy fan club entertain me. Say it. “He meant weight loss”
    —-

    Here’s the best thing about Spygate 1 + 2. You can look at the W\L record before and after each and see how much either really played a role.

  75. GoodellMustGo says:
    June 5, 2022 at 5:48 pm

    Careful. The fan club gets easily triggered when you hit them with the straight up facts. Brady was carried by his teammates in all of his Super Bowls.

    Every.

    Single.

    One.

    Montana won all his rings for his team. Tommy won 0 for his. Some GOAT…
    ———
    Fiction. Montana had top 5 defenses every year he won the SB. Some GOAT indeed.

  76. GoodellMustGo says:
    June 5, 2022 at 5:53 pm

    Bill didn’t turn Brady into all hall of famer. His teammates did. He was just along for the ride.

    And “teammates” that includes the equipment guys. You all know what I mean by that.
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    The same “teammates” that won him a SB in TB?

  77. lionsnati0n says:
    June 5, 2022 at 8:48 pm
    Bill was an average coach before Tom Brady, and he’s and average coach after Tom Brady.
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    Curious. If a team went 17-16 with a playoff appearance would that be considered “average” by other teams in the league? The teams hovering around 22-26 Wins over that same time span aren’t dealing with trying to replace an all time great elite QB and yet despite that the Pats are within 5-9 Wins from reaching those numbers. You look at teams like AZ, Dal and Bal and the Pats are within 2 Wins of any of those teams during that same time span. I think there’s an argument to made about him being an average coach post-Brady but I suspect their record over the past 2 years indicates they are closer to the top half of the league vs the bottom half.

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