Virginia tables Commanders stadium bill

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There will be no free money in Virginia for the construction of a Washington Commanders stadium. At least not this year.

Via the Associated Press, the Virginia General Assembly has tabled legislation aimed at partially financing a new venue in the state.

Senate Majority Leader Dick Saslaw told the AP that there are too many issues and controversies. He said the measure could be re-introduced in 2023.

The Commanders said in a statement that the team supports the legislature’s decision to “more deeply examine this issue.”

“We look forward to continued engagement and open dialogue with stakeholders across the Commonwealth to share our vision and hear directly from communities on their economic development objectives and how we can be a trusted, reliable partner to realize those outcomes,” the Commanders said.

When, when it comes to free money, there’s nothing wrong with a little patience. Regardless, no NFL owner needs taxpayer money to build a stadium. More and more communities need to take a stand against this warped Field of Dreams presumption that, “If you pay for it, they will stay.”

39 responses to “Virginia tables Commanders stadium bill

  1. If DC or the surrounding area doesn’t want to kick in some $$$ to build a stadium I’m sure they’ll be many cities/states lining up to fill the void.

  2. Good. We don’t need/don’t want Snyder’s laughing stock franchise.
    Thanks Del Rio!

  3. In football terminology, one might characterize Daniel Snyder’s ownership of the club as a blocked punt.

  4. All cities who are approached with these bad deals should counter with– “Okay we will build one and you can play there for free, but we will own it and run the concessions, parking etc ourselves.”

  5. In retaliation, Snyder should move the team to San Antonio, TX, or St. Louis, MO.
    What would be better would be if Snyder paid for the new stadium himself, and then shared NONE of the profits with the local area.
    Governments cannot have it both ways. If Virginia raises taxes on the team, then the team should take their profits and move. Virginia CANNOT claim part of the profits when they paid NOTHING into the stadium and/or assumed ZERO liability or risk for the stadium.

  6. Owners should find these themselves. They reap all the benefits. The good people of Buffalo got screwed. Don’t make the same mistake Virgina.

  7. As a Virginia taxpayer, I applaud this move. No taxpayer money for a privately owned business – ever.

  8. I’m with Florio, you shouldn’t do this just because Del Rio is a dope who can’t keep his unpopular opinion to himself. Even when he knows better, he only apologized because he got so much blowback. WFT or any other employer can’t monitor their employees 24/7/365 and control what they say.

  9. Time to move the Commanders to a location that understand the value they bring to a community. Somewhere who appreciates the owner and team.

  10. Hang in there, DMV football fans. Stand your ground on not giving in to subsidizing a new stadium.
    Look to the example of Los Angeles. We held out for 20 years until someone came along who was going to pay for their own stadium.
    Think you can go for 20 more years of dilapidated RFK?

  11. I doubt that the Commanders can convince anyone that they can be “a trusted, reliable partner” regarding anything.

  12. Well, I wouldn’t say no NFL Owner “needs taxpayer money” to build a stadium. Fact is, very few owners have the ability to personally write a check for $1 billion or more dollars to build a stadium. So, the money has to come from some outside source in order to build the stadium.

    And frankly, governments all the time offer private sector companies $$$$ to relocate or in some cases, stay in a location. This isn’t just a sports thing. Amazon gets courted all of the time, as well as many other name brand companies. And frankly, why would anyone turn down free money in these cases?

    Bottom line, governments do not have to offer incentives to attract or retain teams. But, there are many governments that are willing to do so, if yours won’t. Not as easy a call to make.

  13. If the city of Washington DC is lucky, Snyder will take his team to another city and Washington can get a new team.

  14. The fact of the matter is that no one wants to get in bed with Snyder. It’s almost as if he has a 20-year track record for turning everything he touches into a complete and utter mess.

  15. The argument for taxpayer subsidized stadiums is that they will generate more local tax revenue in terms of local bar and hotel occupancy. That is revenue realized by the local municipality not the owner of the stadium. Unless the team owner also owns the hotels and restaurants that surround the stadium, they should see some form of subsidy.

  16. This is what it looks when a proud franchise completely falls apart be cause of greed and poor ownership.

  17. The state of VA, just said umm you go figure out some things first Dan. Then we’ll talk.

  18. As someone who was born, raised and still lives in the DMV. What the Virginia legislature did today should be no surprise to anyone. The people of Virginia never wanted a stadium built in their state. They didn’t in the 90’s when Jack Kent Cooke wanted to build a stadium there. They don’t one now and IMO never will. I hear people say this is all Snyder’s fault and no one wants to do business with him. OK if that’s true then why didn’t they want to do business with Cooke? He wasn’t a hated owner. The team and organization at that time was one of the best in the league. Yet they said no to him. In this particular case this is about Virginia. You can blame a lot of things on Snyder but this isn’t one of them.

  19. With all the money this league and the team make, they can’t be fiscally responsible and set aside money to upgrade/build stadiums? They could, but some cities cave in and don’t force them to. It’s nice to see Virginia has a backbone.

  20. Each individual situation is different when it comes to whether public money should be involved with new stadium/arena construction. Studies regarding a municipality’s return on investment do not translate from one location to another. In addition, there is a lack of independent studies, as almost all of them are commissioned by opposing sides of the issue.

    Contrary to many people’s belief, even a “money losing” investment can be a boom for the citizens of the locality. For example, the Yum! Center in Louisville has lost money ever since it opened 12 years ago. However, the presence of a first class arena has brought headliner music and other entertainment to the city that previously would not play here, thus improving the quality of life while also attracting major businesses that otherwise would not locate here.

  21. Why should they receive a subsidy?
    Tax breaks and infrastructure… okay.
    The taxes on hotel rooms are mostly geared at business travelers.
    The taxes on rental cars are mostly locals with a car in shop who need transportation.
    Let them buy the lot, pay for the stadium, give them the utility lines and roads.

  22. “The argument for taxpayer subsidized stadiums is that they will generate more local tax revenue in terms of local bar and hotel occupancy.”

    ******************************

    Yes, that is always the argument. And analysis after analysis has shown it to be false.

  23. #1 – The question of whether a municipality should give or not give money to a sports team should never be about politics. In its simplest form it’s about a balance sheet. The city should be able to understand what benefits they will be getting from different types of compounding tax revenue streams, real estate development, etc. also known as economic/fiscal impact studies. Allowing politics to enter the equation is silly.
    Example – Growing up before Capital One Arena was built, Chinatown/Gallery Place was not a good area and full of boarded up houses. Enter Capital One Arena and the entire area increased in value at the very least a decade ahead of schedule. DC made more money to go towards their entitlement programs and gave money towards the project in terms of:
    (a) economic value of approximately $70 million through below-market rent for the land and a property tax exemption and (b) the issuance of $60 million in “Arena Bonds” financed by a supplemental gross receipts tax of all D.C. businesses. In addition, in 2007, a $50 million tax increment financing loan—backed by a supplemental sales tax on arena food and retail purchases. The arena cost $220 million. DC basically paid for half. The value of the real estate projects completed in the area surrounding the Verizon Center between 1995 and 2013 totals $8.1 billion. Looks like that was a good deal for DC.
    #2-If you say a municipality should never give private companies money and tax benefits to come to their area and build then YOU ARE WRONG. Refer to #1. It is a balance sheet pure and simple. Sometimes the answer is yes and other times it is no but the answer is never “never”.

  24. As previously stated, I love the location! The Philly fans will need a couple of extra days to drive back from Woodbridge. Regarding paying for a stadium, what a dumb idea. Amazon is opening another HQ in Alexandria, VA for which they got plenty of subsidies, but did they get free office buildings? Nope. The best an owner can expect these days is something in the neighborhood of 10% of the cost of the stadium in the form of transportation assistance (i.e. on-off ramps) or tax benefits. Hard cash? No way. And that is how it should be.

  25. Virginia CANNOT claim part of the profits when they paid NOTHING into the stadium and/or assumed ZERO liability or risk for the stadium.

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    What makes you say that? Virginia taxes businesses in the state via 6% corporate income tax even though Virginia invests absolutely nothing in them and has zero liability or risk in over 99% of them. Just like every other state does.

  26. It’s not over yet. A few years ago a new Vikings stadium was shot down, until Goodell came to town and did some arm twisting.

  27. hobbes says:
    June 9, 2022 at 2:33 pm
    “The argument for taxpayer subsidized stadiums is that they will generate more local tax revenue in terms of local bar and hotel occupancy.”

    ******************************

    Yes, that is always the argument. And analysis after analysis has shown it to be false.
    ______________

    Actually, it is only a small part of the argument. New stadiums/arenas also generate new businesses and jobs while also attracting major entertainment acts, aiding in attracting major industries, and generally improving the quality of life for area citizens.

    There are just as many analysis supporting the positive economic impact of new stadiums/arenas as there are denigrating them. Most of studies opposing the use of public money are funded by the no taxes ever people and are thus unreliable.

  28. The Washington Commanders need a new stadium. Let’s hope and pray that something gets done. If VA doesn’t want to help, then they can look elsewhere. Remember folks, the owner changed the name of the franchise TO GET FUNDING for a new stadium. Let’s get this done!!

  29. I used to work for a defense contractor building things that bring the American way to the dictactors of the world. Some of the components in our product were not available from anyone. There was no free market to obtain them from so the government paid to have the items built and then provided them to us free of charge. I get that. Government steps in and funds construction when capitalism does not provide what is needed.

    Stadiums are relatively easy to fund and build. Capitalism is working, so there is no good reason for government to fund their construction. The Commanders can sell bonds to fund the stadium.

  30. good decision… obviously though, it was for the wrong reason…
    .

  31. We just found out that an NFL franchise with a loyal fan base is worth $4.5B. Lil Danny should have no problem borrowing against that kind of equity. He should not need government money.

  32. If DC or the surrounding area doesn’t want to kick in some $$$ to build a stadium I’m sure they’ll be many cities/states lining up to fill the void.

    Who? San Diego and St. Louis have made it quite clear they would not pay for a new stadium. Austin? San Antonio? Possibly, but something tells me Jerry would not be pleased with a third team in Texas. Orlando, Sacramento, Portland are all big TV markets but I’ve never heard a peep about bringing a pro football team there. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I think the line will be a lot shorter than you think.

  33. I live in Austin – don’t move here. Taxes are already high, don’t need to pay more corporate charity.

  34. JDR has 0 good will with the org at this point. If defense struggles early this year as they did last year, I can see him getting canned.

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