Houston detective has testified that she believes Deshaun Watson committed crimes

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The civil cases against Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson entail a broad and comprehensive effort to find potentially relevant evidence. That effort recently included securing sworn testimony from a Houston police detective who believes that Watson committed crimes.

Via Brent Schrotenboer of USA Today, detective Kamesha Baker said under oath that she shared this opinion with the office of the Harris County District Attorney. Baker also said she doesn’t know why the grand jury opted not to indict Watson.

Detective Baker, per Schrotenboer, testified that she believes Watson committed criminal indecent assault, sexual assault, and prostitution, at to cases where consensual sex happened and money changed hands.

Baker got this question: “Did you feel confident that you had the evidence needed to pursue those charges?”

“Yes,” she replied.

She then was asked this: “And was there any doubt in your mind as the investigating officer that a crime had occurred?”

“No,” she answered.

She also said there was no disagreement within her team that Watson had committed crimes. Baker testified that she met with prosecutor Johna Stallings to share her opinions on the matter.

“I expressed to her that we did find the complainants credible and reliable,” Baker testified. “That’s why we did a warrant that stated they were credible and reliable.”

Baker did not testify during the Harris County grand jury proceedings on nine criminal complaints. She said she was told by Stallings that Watson’s attorney, Rusty Hardin, would have objections to Baker testifying before the grand jury. That’s confusing, because the suspect’s lawyer has no standing whatsoever to object to anything the prosecutor does during the grand jury proceedings.

“The presumption of innocence is a fundamental tenet of our justice system,” attorney Leah Graham told Schrotenboer in a Friday statement. “It is incredibly unfortunate that this presumption was not given to Deshaun Watson by one of the investigating officers. Ultimately, however, justice was served by two grand juries in two separate jurisdictions who did what this detective refused to do: take a fair and impartial look at all of the evidence before reaching a conclusion.”

Frankly, the playing of the “presumption of innocence” card in this context is extremely disingenuous and deliberately misleading. The presumption of innocence applies only after a suspect is officially charged with a crime. If every police officer went around presuming the innocence of every potential defendant, NO ONE WOULD EVER BE CHARGED.

The police identify the people they believe are factually guilty. The prosecutors, often working with a grand jury, frame the charges, if any, that flow from the available facts. Then, if the suspect becomes a defendant in a looming criminal trial, the presumption of innocence attaches.

Justice, contrary to Graham’s statement, was not exclusively served by the two grand juries. Justice, as a practical matter, was deferred to the civil justice system.

Again, the decisions of the grand jury are not conclusive, especially without access to the full presentation made by Stallings. As explained earlier this week, Stallings quite possibly opted to share the information provided to her by Watson’s legal team in the hopes that the grand jury would not indict Watson, which would have forced her to try to prove multiple crimes beyond a reasonable doubt — while dealing with a dream team of high-priced lawyers who, as Rusty Hardin demonstrated by repeatedly contacting Stallings prior to the grand jury presentations, would have made her life as a practical matter miserable for the duration of the criminal cases.

41 responses to “Houston detective has testified that she believes Deshaun Watson committed crimes

  1. Can’t wait for all the sexist Millennials and their Boomer parents to chime in here to tell us serial predator Watson is innocent.

  2. If she was worried about Hardin ringing her phone every 5 minutes then she should find another occupation. This guy shod never play another snap in the NFL. He should have to register as a sex offender

  3. 66 women in a 17 month stretch sounds pretty normal to me, said only Ted Bundy

  4. And this is the ‘WHY’ Kamesha Baker isn’t an attorney. Personal feelings aren’t admissible as evidence or factually based. It only works to dramatize and sensational for media and entertainment purposes.
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  5. If watson wasnt rich he would be in trial nkt OTAs

  6. The Browns are like ok, we failed so much on Quarterbacks, lets just break the bank and get the sure thing.

  7. The police identify people they believe are “factually” guilty?? That’s a bunch crap, lol

  8. It’s a shame how these people are more obsessed with nailing a man for a series of “happy endings” than those idiots who stormed our capital! If two grand juries said they found no evidence of a crime, WHO CARES about what some corrupt cop says. COPS LIE! All the time! I’ve seen it for myself. Let! It! Go! There’s much bigger fish that needs to be caught, gutted, and fried beginning with the former occupant of the White House! Help out with the January 6th case if you’re bored, Houston detectives. And go investigate that corrupt Texas governor first! Enough!

  9. Man, this hole just gets deeper and deeper with more and more questionable shenanigans to answer for.

  10. Why wasn’t there a complaint from the first massage therapist the first time an incident occurred. Just curious.

  11. From what I’ve heard some of the women involved, some of this sure sounded criminal to me. The Browns deserve for this to blow up in their face and I really hope it goes

  12. I love the attorney making the claim that the investigating officer didn’t give Watson the innocent until proven guilty crap. I mean, as the investigating officer, she’s, well you know, seen evidence to sway her opinion. Good lord where does Watson find these lawyers

  13. Money changed hands? So the massages were not necessarily done for free. I’m old enough to remember when a former president wrote a check for $130,000 from the oval office for sex. Or to keep sex a secret.

    Watson should get the same treatment he got for his crime.

  14. ‘COPS LIE! All the time! I’ve seen it for myself. Let! It! Go!’

    Yeah, yeah. Everyone’s lying in this case except for Deshaun Watson.

  15. Are we ever going to let the process play out before convicting the man? Opinions are fair play and we should express them as such. But to unequivocally say he is innocent or to unequivocally say he is guilty, without all the information is a slap in the face of our constitution.

  16. I thought you needed evidence to charge someone with a crime. That’s probably why Watson hasn’t been charged.

  17. The detective is lying. The criminal case was already dismissed something is fishy here.

  18. Everyone is welcome to their opinion. However, the ones that counted, on the Grand Jury had a different opinion. I agree with Detective Baker but my opinion does not matter.

  19. Cops don’t determine guilt in the US legal system. Florio is simply playing attorney against Hardin. I do agree that the prosecutor didn’t want him indicted. Hard to win he said/she said cases, and the loss would be embarrassing.

  20. Bottom line is he wasn’t indicted because of who is and the NFL. Look at Ray Lewis and others. How many times do these pro ball players get away with stuff. If any of us normal people did half of what pro ball players do, we’d be locked up.

  21. What possible legal relevance is there to what some policer believes – whether she believes the complaints or believes that the actions complained of were crimes?

    Whether the complaints are credible is for the juries. Whether the actions are a crime is for the judge. I would be shocked if this “evidence” would be admitted in any court.

    To me the only “relevance” of this “evidence” is to prejudice public opinion and potential jurors.

  22. The DA’s office in Houston is crooked, there was NO WAY they were going to put criminal charges on the starting QB of the teams NFL franchise.

    Not a chance. This is the same DA’s office that let murder suspects out of jail on PR bonds, only for them to kill again.

  23. If you threw everyone in jail that a cop “believed” had committed a crime then there would be like 29 people in the country not behind bars

  24. But wait, the Browns did their homework on this! The off seasons for the NFL just gets more crazy every year. I do feel sorry for the Brown fans.

  25. The 2 prosecutors who presented the cases to the grand jury should be investigated, this as almost everything in the US justice system stinks of corruption 😡

  26. Is Watson innocent or guilty. Depends on the day? The human mind has a very difficult time with holding opposing points of view. That’s why we rush to judgement one way or another. Our mind needs a sense of certainty to be “right.” That’s also why most media outlets use headlines that create polarity in our minds. Not knowing is the greatest fear of all. It’s also what unites us. What if Watson is, as he claims, totally innocent? Can our minds handle it? Or what if these allegations are only the tip of the iceberg? We just don’t know yet. And we’ll probably never know.

  27. Her belief and two nickels is worth ten cents. When it comes to criminal proceedings what is required is evidence that will convince a jury unanimously that sadi crime had occurred. Based on the facts that the police agencies never referred charges to the DA and the Grand Juries did not indict Watson is a clear indication that there was not enough evidence to prove that a crime had been committed.

  28. No matter if this clown is ever convicted of anything or not, the fact that he hired 66 young women to give him, er, ah, “massages” indicates he is probably at the very least a sex addict who could use some help, and at worst a sexual predator. Either way he isn’t exactly the kind of man I’d want as the face of MY NFL team were I an owner. And as “religious” as Dabo Sweeney would like us to believe he is, I’m surprised he put up with a guy like this leading Clemson’s team either.

  29. There were no calls to police by any of the women. Nobody reported a crime. If there was a sexual predator on the loose, certainly at least one of these women would have sounded the alarm to protect other women. Zero. Zilch. It sounds like whatever happened was normal for the industry. Was it prostitution? It sounds more like prostitution than sexual assault. Prostitutes generally don’t call the cops to report themselves. The league investigated this in depth a long time ago. They found no crime was ever committed. The league was probably trying to protect the women because they probably discovered whatever Watson was doing was very common. The difference between Watson and the others was he’s a multi-millionaire. That’s why the attorney who recruited these women was trying for a secret cash payoff. Did I mention the attorney just so happens to be a neighbor of the Texans owner, and all this happened only after Watson made it known that he wouldn’t play for the Texans anymore. I’m not making any of this stuff up. I’m in favor of lifetime prison for any rapist. No second chances. I don’t frequent the massage industry, but I’ve heard what goes on.

  30. So Watson has this overwhelming mountain of proof he committed crimes, he paid money to cover it up, and people or persons in the Harris County justice system participated in the cover up, but all anyone can say is they don’t know why he wasn’t charged in a case that has this much national media attention??? So no one wants to investigate the investigation to remove the corruption? Or maybe, just maybe they don’t have enough evidence and never did…

  31. why do we care what a police detective believes? they are advocates for convicting people. There’s no criminal case because the best witness they have is a police officer (detective) who believes Watson is guilty. Who cares? And the judge should NEVER let any police detective testify in any case, civil or criminal, as to what she believes. They can ask for facts and it’s up to the jurors to decide guilt or not. I’m not swayed AT ALL by what some police officer believes.

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