Tyreek Hill: Tua Tagovailoa is more accurate than Patrick Mahomes

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The first episode of It Needed To Be Said features Dolphins receiver Tyreek Hill and agent Drew Rosenhaus saying plenty of things about his departure from the Chiefs. Hill also says a few things about his new quarterback, and about his former one.

“I’ve had a chance to see Tua [Tagovailoa] throw the ball, to myself, but. . . . he’s that dude, bro,” Hill said. “Like, what a lot of people don’t know, like, I’m not just sitting just saying this because he’s my quarterback now. . . . like, I’m not trying to get more targets right now, but what I’m trying to say is Tua is that deal, bro. . . . Bro, he has a heck of an arm, bro. He’s accurate. He can throw the deep ball, and he actually goes through his reads, where people are like on Twitter like saying, ‘Oh, he doesn’t go through his reads.’ Man, this dude is that dude.”

Hill’s co-host, Julius Collins, then asked Hill who has the stronger arm, Tua or Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes?

“Obviously, like I’m gonna go with 15 as the strongest arm but as far as accuracy-wise, I’m going with Tua all day,” Hill said.

“So which one would you rather have, the deep ball where you gotta scramble around the field to try to go find it, or do you want that accuracy to hit you breadbasket on the run?” Collins asked Hill.

“I want it to hit me right in the breadbasket, just like I did in the Buffalo Bills game and take it 70,” Hill said. “And the rest is history.”

Hill added that his game in Miami will consist of a lot more than tracking long throws.

“I love the deep ball, but guess what though? I done expanded my game,” Hill said. “So now I’m doing a lot more than just the deep ball now. I’m doing intermediate routes. I’m doing short routes. So now I actually need a guy who can just get me the ball now, on a dagger route, on a corner route, on a shallow cross route. You know, right now, right in my chest. So I can do the rest. I make you look good now.”

Hill pointed out that, during a game without Mahomes in 2019, he made Matt Moore look pretty good, while Mahomes was out with a knee injury.

“I just want people to understand I went for 150 with Matt Moore as my quarterback,” Hill said. “I love you, Matt Moore. Versus the Minnesota Vikings. If you don’t remember that game, 150 and one touchdown with Matt Moore as my quarterback. And Tua T. is 10-10 Matt Moores. I love Matt Moore, but Tua T. is 10 Matt Moores.” (Hill had six catches for 140 yards and a touchdown that day.)

So, again, it will be very interesting to see how the Chiefs do without Hill, and how Hill does without Mahomes. But here’s the simple truth. Hill’s boasting will serve only to put more pressure on Tua to perform at a high level in 2022.

101 responses to “Tyreek Hill: Tua Tagovailoa is more accurate than Patrick Mahomes

  1. So if Tua is that accurate, he must be implying that his struggles have been due to bad WR’s?? I’m not buying it. He’s just trying to justify his money grab and act like it had some football related merit. Sorry, it doesn’t.

  2. Like.. im a Raiders fan so normally id take a shot here but that statement literally isnt true. 1% pass completion rate difference doesnt tell the whole story especially with Mahomes volume of passing.

    Not only is Tua less accurate hes also timid and unable to really pull the trigger under pressure. I will give Tua credit though he showed some improvement down the stretch last year and can be a solid starter imo.

  3. This is what happens when you pay the qb that much you can’t keep the weapons only time will tell who is better off my bet is Tua

  4. Watched Patrick make a throw in the Superbowl against the Bucs, was running for his life, in the air, parallel with the ground–ball went 30 yards on a frozen rope, hit the receiver right in the breadbasket (ended up getting broken up) Noone but Patrick could do that

  5. Ok, I’m sticking my neck out here but, my guess is Mahomes HOF, Tia, probably not. Ungh, ungh

  6. Tua is very accurate, he does not have a rocket arm! But he can throw a deep pass… the coaches rarely called up those plays because he was playing behind the worst offensive line in the NFL.

  7. Never in NFL history have I seen such a concerted effort to prop up the QB of any team!

  8. In Tua’s 3 games versus Buffalo he has thrown 1td 4ints and 59.8% completion rate. If Tua didn’t get injured he might have set the record for interceptions and sacks in a single game during the first matchup of 21’.

  9. Tua goes through his reads all day long in shorts and a T shirt, where he’s not getting hit.
    Put him in front of a pass rush and that ball is coming out fast, to his check down.
    Hope Tyreeck likes being a 30 million dollar decoy.

  10. Yup, throws less picks than Rodgers, more clutch than Brady, way faster than Murray and more elusive than Jackson… Tell us more.

  11. The more I read the more I get the feeling that Hill was a locker room problem in KC. He seems to be throwing daggers at Mahomes every chance he gets. Why is that?

  12. Let me know when someone other than Peyton Manning completes 80% of his passes 3 games in a row because only Tua and Manning have ever done that.

    Some of you all taking smack on Tua have no idea. Dude is hyper accurate.

    And yes, his WRs were that bad last year that weren’t named Jaylen Waddle.

    And the OL was worse.

    Believe the hype, Miami is going to destroy your defense.

  13. Only lovers of the lazy narrative that Tua Tagovailoa is a lousy quarterback will pick holes in what strikes me as reasonable takes on quarterbacks by Hill – it’s his experience and perception, after all. Hill seems really excited and motivated about the upcoming season – Go Tua Tagovailoa, Go Dolphins!!

  14. I don’t want to bash Tua because I think he has shown the ability to play in this league and has the toughness required for an every week starter. However, Mahomes is a Super Bowl Champion, MVP and League MVP.

  15. OMG! I want whatever Hill is taking. Sometimes in this world I rather believe that reality isn’t always true.

  16. Ok, now put Tua in a real game with real pressure vs a good NFL defense…… but he changes his time.

  17. The things that people are forgetting is that he was drafted while recovering from a major injury. No one expected him to play his first year. Many Dolphin fans like myself questioned whether he ever recover to what he was before the injury.
    Tua was a shell of himself in his rookie year. All you can say is that he hung around and won some games.
    There was significant improvement in the second year but his performance was below average in PFF Grade, passer rating and ESPN QBR.
    Having watched some of his Alabama games I still do not believe that Tua has regained all of his strength or speed. His trainer (Hicks) is stating that Tua’s arm strength has improved a lot during the off season. If that statement is not hype, Tua might surprise a lot of people and become a top 10 QB.

  18. The Cheetah is a loose cannon….The Chiefs took a chance and drafted him, The Chiefs stood by him through controversy and false accusations as did the fan base in KC. The same immature kid who got in all that trouble back in college is alive and well and playing wide receiver for the Miami Dolphins this season.

  19. I don’t know if I have ever seen a fan base go from “Thanks for everything Cheetah, we still love you” to “I hope you fail” so fast. Tyreek “over the” Hill would be better off just keeping his mouth shut and enjoying the praises of two fan bases instead of dumping on the one he just left in order to make his new QB feel better.

  20. That’s funny, because they signed Patrick to a 10 year deal and traded you. I wonder why that is? Could it be that you’re a loudmouth and Andy Reid knows how to use your peak years and then bail before you get more expensive and out of your prime? And maybe there’s a lot more than accuracy on the practice field. Mahomes is a proven lwinner. He never gives up. He’s quick and confident and uses his legs as needed. Tua and 5 bucks will buy you a medium Starbucks right now.

  21. The amazing thing is that none of the venom thrown Deshaun Watsons way doesn’t still resonate with this guy allegedly breaking his 3 year olds arm. Also…saying on an audio he hits his 3 yr old to toughen him up and his gf should be afraid of him. Double standards based off of what team an individual plays for I guess…

  22. He’s right…Mahomes knock is that is accuracy falls off at times. He’s notorious for erratic throws from time to time. That doesn’t mean he isn’t a great QB.

  23. If Tua wasn’t accurate passer, there would be no way all 4 of his receivers plus TE from 2018 Alabama teammate would be drafted in first round.
    Jerry Judy (Bronco’s 15th overall pick) won Biletnikoff award 2018 (Tua’s primary target). Put him in same offense Tua was starter over Jalen Hurts and Mac Jones. At Alabama he did have great receivers as well as great RB (J. Jacobs, D. harris and Najee Harris tua’s best friend), also great front line. Now finally Miami has similar setup as he had in Bama, Tuscaloosa Tua is back.

  24. The Chiefs must have sensed that this guy was about to come unglued. When they hear about this they’ll have no doubt they made the right decision.

  25. I’m totally at a lost for words here, Tyreek outside of not being the sharpest tool in the box now comes across like a Scorned EX who decided he is going to try and burn the House down. I guess Tyreek has ZERO plans to go back and have that RETIRE a CHIEF REUNION down the Road. All i have to say to the Dolphins & their fans you better WIN, Because this guy will be at the front of the line with a GAS CAN.

  26. The one thing that was very obvious watching KC the last few years, it’s Hill and Travis K who make it happen. Mahomes on the Lions or Jets would not look good. Those two receivers are what made KC win. As for Tua being accurate, his completion % shows it.

  27. Every time he talks, explains why he’s no longer in KC. KC got maximum value for a guy they wouldn’t have in 12 months either way. Hearing him try to justify his move, seems to indicate he’s trying to justify the transfer for himself.

  28. This is comical. Hill literally hasn’t played a single game with Tua and he’s spouting all of this garbage and burning bridges and relationships in KC. The guy is digging himself a hole that he’ll never crawl out of.

    Seriously can’t wait to see this all bite him in the backside. Gonna be awesome to watch.

  29. Tua’s strong point is his accuracy and anticipation. He’s no where near the level of Patrick Mahomes as far as ability to play the quarterback position.. With that said, Mahomes would have struggled playing behind the garbage line that Grier and Flores assembled for Tua in his first two seasons. This season we will see if Tua can play consistently at a high level. If he can’t, there will be changes.

  30. What a diva. Why does everyone think they gotta spill their head on a podcast?! Seriously… in what way, does going out and broadcasting all these thoughts, help Tyreek Hill?

  31. Doubt. It’s always possible in practice, but with live players flying around? Doubt even harder.

  32. Methinks Tyreek doth protest too much. He sounds like a guy that knows he made a huge mistake leaving KC.

    If Tyreek is right about Tua being more accurate, how will tyreek explain his soon to be lower receiving yards>

  33. i think its awesome that some of the posters on here who have never played pro ball are smarter and have more insight than Tyreke Hill who has 479 catches and 6630 yards and 56 touchdowns when it comes to quarterback play in the NFL.
    we are really fortunate to have such knowledgeable posters.

  34. Understand something here, Hill said that Tua is more accurate than Mahomes, he didn’t say he was a better QB.

    Not sure why all the panties are in a bunch here, Tua is known for his pinpoint accuracy.

    Hill has seen is up close now for a couple months.

    These uniformed takes on Tua are the reason why his teammates have to defend him. As if these comments and tweets should just be left unchecked.

    Let me know when Belichek finally beats Tua.

  35. This will be Tuas 3rd year.
    Either he improves or he is yet another so-so QBs, who are ok on their rookie deal but not worth the big contract mediocre QBs get.
    If he doesn’t improve I’d draft another QB, and let them compete.
    I would not extend him.

  36. We are witnessing the Antonio-Brownisation of Tyreek Hill. The Chiefs must be really happy they moved-on from him.

  37. All this shade thrown Hill’s way. He never said Tua was a better QB than Mahomes; he said he was more accurate. Completion percentage last year: Tua – 67.8, Mahomes – 66.3. I think Hill has a very good point.

  38. I don’t think after reading this that he really loves Matt Moore at all, sorry!

  39. This offense won’t depend much on the deep ball, but on the run setting up intermediate routes and a lot of crossing routes. Tua has an arm like Brees and Brees threw for a lot of yards without much of a deep ball…

  40. I’ll bet that Patrick Mahomes laughed his head off when he heard this one.

  41. Tua has Waddell and Hill now. So I guess we’ll all see if Hill is right in a few months.

    Personally, I don’t buy it. Will be interesting to see what the excuses are.

  42. What’s the under-over on games before Hill starts complaining about not getting the ball? I’m going with 5. Willing to bet there will more drama from Hill off the field then on it this year.

  43. (he said he was more accurate. Completion percentage last year: Tua – 67.8, Mahomes – 66.3. I think Hill has a very good point.nite2al says:
    June 11, 2022 at 1:14 pm
    =============================================
    When it comes to STATS CONTEXT is everything, There is a thing called PASS ATTEMPTS, Mahomes had 658 to Tua 388 that’s nearly Double. That’s like trying to make an argument for the backup QB coming in at the end of a blowout game and attempting 2 passes and finishing naturally with a higher passer rating than the starter. You see how silly this is.
    Also, there is a thing called a high degree of DIFFICULTY since Mahomes has to DISSECT a secondary filled with Landmines of Defenders and does so effectively since he faces the lightest box of all Qb’s. The Dolphins’ passing game last season was ranked 17th The Chiefs were 4th.

  44. “So if Tua is that accurate, he must be implying that his struggles have been due to bad WR’s??”

    I would think the bad pass blocking was more the issue
    The wrs had the worst separation rate in the nfl and i think they were 29th in rushing.
    This stat says a lot:
    Jacoby Brisett 376 snaps 19 sacks
    Tua Tagovailoa 777 snaps 20 sacks

  45. I dunno but it seems to me that Tyreek is just being a good teammate. What’s wrong with standing up for the guys in your locker room? Seems like Hill was successful before Mahomes became his starter and he’ll probably be successful after the fact. And this isn’t blind and stupidly supporting someone like the Pouncey brothers did with Aaron Hernandez. When did the narrative in the league change in that the only way to win a game is chuck 50 yard bombs all day long? Didn’t the Rams just win the Super Bowl with Kupp destroying defenses in the short and intermediate passing game?

  46. I’ve always found that the teams that talk as much as Miami is end up being “The Dream Team”

  47. “i think its awesome that some of the posters on here who have never played pro ball are smarter and have more insight than Tyreke Hill”

    Just like Hill did, we all saw tua play last year on TV. The only new info that Hill has is watching tua in practice. Lots of quarterbacks look great in practice.

    It will be interesting to hear what excuses Hill has when his numbers plummet from last year. WIll he then blame tua or himself?

  48. Contrast this to the thoughtful answer given by Adams regarding Rodgers and Carr. He praised both with proper analogy.

  49. Tyreek, you’re trying wayyyyy too hard. Next you’ll tell us he has a stronger arm than Josh Allen.

  50. Funny how PFT posters know more than the players themselves. Did any if you catch a pass from both QBs? Hill pointed out one aspect of passing. Did you see some of the horrendous picks Mahomes threw last year? Not so much with Tua. I don’t care about degree of difficulty or number of passes. Mahomes takes a lot of chances and that plays into it. Mahomes is clearly the better QB by far, but the most accurate QB is not necessarily the better QB.

  51. bostonblows says:
    June 11, 2022 at 10:34 am
    Let me know when someone other than Peyton Manning completes 80% of his passes 3 games in a row because only Tua and Manning have ever done that.

    Some of you all taking smack on Tua have no idea. Dude is hyper accurate.

    And yes, his WRs were that bad last year that weren’t named Jaylen Waddle.

    And the OL was worse.

    Believe the hype, Miami is going to destroy your defense.

    ————————————————————————————————

    Let me know when Tua wins a super bowl like Mahomes. Which will be never.

  52. Why on earth is he talking like that?? Nobody asked him to say anything about your old squad.

  53. Before each season, every quarterback looks great. Every player expects to win a Super Bowl.

    Having said that, Miami has a great chance to do well this year. They hired a great coach, but it’s his first yar as a head coach. They will have a great running game and they now have a ton of speed at the wide receiver and running backs.

    The big question marks are the O-line, the D-line and Tua.

  54. abnotthatab says:
    June 11, 2022 at 12:53 pm
    i think its awesome that some of the posters on here who have never played pro ball are smarter and have more insight than Tyreke Hill who has 479 catches and 6630 yards and 56 touchdowns when it comes to quarterback play in the NFL.
    we are really fortunate to have such knowledgeable posters.

    Might just be me, but I’m sensing sarcasm here…

  55. Sadly, a great deal of sports media these days (your site excepted) is all about being provocative, rather than reporting news. This sounds like a provocative statement, designed to generate traffic for the program and headlines for Hill, but is ultimately a nothingbuger.

  56. aw Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  57. All of this talk is great. However its BS. How about we wait and see what happens before we start saying things that just stir the pot. Bill

  58. bostonblows says:
    June 11, 2022 at 10:34 am
    Let me know when someone other than Peyton Manning completes 80% of his passes 3 games in a row because only Tua and Manning have ever done that.

    Some of you all taking smack on Tua have no idea. Dude is hyper accurate.

    And yes, his WRs were that bad last year that weren’t named Jaylen Waddle.

    And the OL was worse.

    Believe the hype, Miami is going to destroy your defense.

    61188Rate Down

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    You have got to be one of fhe more delusional homers I’ve ever seen.

    lmao

    Miami is notorious for being a pathetic sports town with pathetic franchises and no tradition.

    The fact Grier has you hooked like this is hysterical.

  59. i love this part of the season where everyone is awesomer than everyone else

  60. You’re all reading too much into these comments by Hill and Adams.

    Do you honestly expect a WR to say their QB isn’t great? TO was a one off and they broke the mold.

  61. Keep your mouth shut, Tyreek. You sound like a damn fool. Anyone else wonder if part of the reason he was traded was his attitude? There’s talking up your new QB, and then there’s throwing your old one under the bus.

  62. Yeah it’s Kelce and Tyreek that make it happen without Mahomes ..smh
    That’s why before Mahomes arrived they had all that playoff success
    You act like throwing 50 tds and 5000 yards was an accident
    Lazy narrative

  63. If he’s that good, it’s probably best to just quietly let his play do the talking.

  64. I’ll take Mahomes all day, however I wonder how dynamic he is going to be without his primary scramble partner. Seems like most times when the pocket collapses Mahomes just chucks it up and Hill would track it down. Either way- I think he’ll be better off than Hill

  65. Of course Tua has a good completion % throwing mostly short easy passes every game. In 21 starts over 2 seasons, only twice has Tua averaged more than 8 yards per attempt in a game. For context in Mahomes first 2 years he had 11 games over 8 YPA and that was in just 17 starts as he was on the bench all but 1 game his rookie year. For their careers Mahomes has a ypa >8 in 54% of his games(34 out of 63 starts), Tua is at 9.5%(2 out of 21 starts).

    Tua and Mahomes have nearly identical career completions %. However, Tua has averaged just 6.4 yards per attempt in 2 seasons and 21 starts. Mahomes career yards per attempt is 8.1.

    Averaging 1.7 more yards per pass attempt is an insane disparity in efficiency that equates to 1000 more passing yards if both QBs were to throw 600 passes in a year. Tua will never be able to up his game to a level equal to Mahomes.

  66. Accuracy should be judged under game conditions when large, strong defensive ends are trying to kill the QB.
    Accuracy on the practice field means little…

  67. Tua is an elite rabbit. Mahomes is an apex wolf. Apples, oranges…

  68. One thing we know is Tyreek is never going back to KC. Why wouldn’t he talk up his current QB?

  69. Tyreek complained, on his podcast, that one of the reasons he left KC was because they didn’t give him the ball often enough. I checked the data and Hill was Mahomes #1 target on the team.

    I can’t wait for Hill to start complaining that Tua isn’t throwing the ball to him often enough.

  70. “One thing we know is Tyreek is never going back to KC. Why wouldn’t he talk up his current QB?”

    IT’s fine for Hill to talk up his new QB, but he did it by insulting his former QB….the guy that helped Hill get a Super Bowl ring and made him the #1 target on the Chiefs.

  71. Overall last season, Tyreek was third in drops but 6th in targets. Mahomes numbers would have been better if Tyreek would actually catch better.

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