Kyle Shanahan: I think Trey Lance is going to be able to overcome adversity

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The 49ers left little doubt about their assessment of quarterback Trey Lance‘s talent when they traded up to take him with the third overall pick in the 2021 draft, but talent alone isn’t always enough to make it in the NFL.

Lance’s rookie appearances showed that all of the components for success had not come together for him right out of the gate. At a recent State of the Franchise event, 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan acknowledged that those things don’t always come together while also explaining why the team believes the pieces will all fit for Lance.

“I think the biggest thing on Trey that everyone’s got to realize is he is younger,” Shanahan said, via 49ersWebzone.com. “Trey’s got more horsepower inside of him than I think he even knows of, just from the whole talent, but also what he’s made of, how intelligent he is. I think he’s going to be able to overcome adversity. I do believe he’s going to be able to handle this pressure. It’s going to be hard, but that’s what the position is. There’s only so many people in this world that have the talent to be put in that spot, and there might be 32 of them, but there’s definitely not 32 of them who have the talent and who have the stuff inside that allows you to handle that position through the ups and downs and everything. I don’t care how good you are, people are going to come after you.”

The only test for Shanahan’s hypothesis about Lance’s ability to handle everything a successful NFL starter needs to handle is going to come on the field and the answer will go a long way toward whether 2022 is a successful year or not for the 49ers.

41 responses to “Kyle Shanahan: I think Trey Lance is going to be able to overcome adversity

  1. Something tells me if the 49ers had a do over, they would not make that same trade to move up and draft Trey Lance.

  2. Never a good sign when your coach has to temper expectations this early in the year.

  3. When they start trotting out the “we really believe in this kid” narrative after just one year, things are worse than they appear.

  4. Worked well for NE. With Lance gone they got Jones for free at 15. If SF picked Jones then NE would either have to put up with another year of Cant Newton or reach terribly for Mills, or give up some badly needed draft assets to move up for Fields. None of those were appealing options.

  5. Lots of concern here and apologies for this poor kid who was clearly over-drafted for whatever their reasons.

    He got hurt because he runs. And, because he came from a Div 2 school as a QB trying to make a huge leap into the NFL.

    Why this person would be deemed a #3 overall pick that a team trades up for is the question of the century in sports.

    Lynch and Shanahan have high opinions of themselves. I am sure they were thinking they fleeced BB in the JimmyG deal, but look at it now? They twisted themselves into a pretzel, and the irony is, Shanahan blew the SB vs the swiss cheese Chiefs D by not continuing to run the ball at 6YPC by each RB. How do you have each RB running at 6YPC and you stop running the ball with a lead, when you’re facing a high octane offense?

    He did the same thing vs the PAts in the SB with Atlanta.

    Yet, for some reason, all the blame and pressure goes to JimmyG and now to Trey Lance.

    I mean, I am sorry, but if this appears not to work in 2022, Lynch and Shanahan have got to go on an immediate hotseat.

    You can’t keep acting like all the decisions YOU make somehow are other peoples’ decisions.

  6. What exactly is the adversity? What is it? He was drafted very high. The team made a ridiculous trade to get him, or get someone. Is that the adversity? Is being expected to perform in the NFL now considered adversity???

  7. This year will tell us a lot of what they really think of Lance.

    I don’t think sitting behind someone like Jimmy is that productive for him. Jimmy is not Montana or Young. If he’s still sitting for most of the season then that’s not ideal.

  8. Why this person would be deemed a #3 overall pick that a team trades up for is the question of the century in sports.
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    If Lance turns out to be an absolute stud then nobody is going to question this move again.

    But if we see he’s spending time on the bench to “learn” from Jimmy then that probably says the 49ers might not be all that confident that’s going to happen.

  9. “Adversity” isn’t usually a term applied to a #3 draft pick going to a team overflowing with high-end talent and solid coaching.

    Zach Wilson, Sam Darnold, Tua Tagovailoa, Drew Lock, they can be said to have faced adversity. Lance got a free ticket to a seat that probably most QBs in the league would happily trade for their own, and has had a year to take it all in. “Challenge”, of course. But “adversity”?

  10. GoodellMustGo says:
    June 17, 2022 at 10:32 am
    Why this person would be deemed a #3 overall pick that a team trades up for is the question of the century in sports.
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    If Lance turns out to be an absolute stud then nobody is going to question this move again.

    But if we see he’s spending time on the bench to “learn” from Jimmy then that probably says the 49ers might not be all that confident that’s going to happen.

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    Yes, but based on what reasoning? A big arm, he’s big and athletic? Where have we seen this before? It’s not enough. That’s why these QBs end up running all the time. Sure, it’s great if you need your size, speed and athleticism to get out of a broken play on 3rd and 7, and it’s fun to watch like Favre or Mahomes, but you need more than that, especially with the speed and complexity of today’s defenses.

    He faced Div 2 level competition. The second I looked at his gametape I saw a guy who chucked the ball downfield to wide open WRS on broken plays. That’s literally all his highlight films are.

    This will not happen in the NFL. That’s the point. His skill set is a bonus, not the prime skills a pro QB needs.

    Get it?

    The odds of him making it a pro QB aren’t great, and the fact he was traded up for like that, is mindboggling.

    So, no, it’s unlikely he will be a stud like you are suggesting.

    Every year, there are 2-3 names that get this weird late hype going into the draft where word spreads and people who aren’t good talent evaluators start talking to one another and this momentum of propaganda spreads, and some team takes the cheese, and here we are.

    There is no rhyme or reason why Lance should have gone #3 overall, let alone traded up for like that.

  11. So Shanahan is basically saying the kid is immature and can’t handle the pressure but that Trey Lance can overcome these self inflicted personal defects. That’s pretty interesting. Shanahan appears to be applying some heat to the kid while preparing the 49er fan base for a bad outcome.

  12. When you trade up for a QB and don’t start him his first year, and he doesn’t earn the starting job his second year – you have a serious problem.

    Just start him, and if he’s a bust, let the next GM draft a QB.
    Find out now.

  13. Adversity? Adversity? Are we talking about Adversity? Kyle Shanahan has lost his marbles.

  14. Hes already a bust if you have to keep making these kind of statements, Why did they draft this kid when they have Jimmi G. All he did was win games for you. Not his fault that he got hurt in a game.

  15. What kind of adversity are we talking about here? The kind of adversity that allows you to be the starting quarterback of a college football team? The kind of adversity that you experience when you’re the number three overall draft pick in the NFL draft? Is it the adversity of signing a contract that makes you wealthy in comparison to most people on the planet at the age of 21 without actually having to complete an serious educational program, or put in time as an apprentice, or climb the corporate ladder? Are we talking about the kind of adversity you experience when you’re vaulted all the way to the top of the pyramid without having to put in decades worth of work? Yeah, my heart bleeds for these people. It’s not fair that they have to be made wealthy as part of the circus that is the NFL. Lynch and Shanahan are just the carnival barkers trying to assure you that Trey Lance is worth the price of admission. They’re trying to speak this whole thing into existence. What the 49ers are banking on is that Trey Lance will become Mac Jones with Trey Lance’s physical skills. If that happens, well, jackpot. That’s a tall climb though. Jones is way ahead of Lance. If reports from minicamp about Jones having more pop on the ball and accuracy throwing long, and he could actually bring that to a real game, it’s going to make the narrative about the 49ers overpaying to pick Lance sound even louder. I don’t wish him any ill will, and a lot of great quarterbacks have sat their first year. There’s no need to panic. The press is just doing what the press does. Maybe Shanahan is just trying to relieve some of that pressure off of Lance. That’s not unusual. Time will tell.

  16. I would defend any persons right to their own opinion/conclusions whatever. So while I do not question them, I do admit being puzzled by some. I guess what it comes down to is, either you believe that the Jed/John/Kyle trio indeed knows what they are doing – or they do not. Roughly ninety six percent of the time, I believe they do.

    I do 100 percent believe that Trey hooking up with Kyle will blow a lot of people’s minds this season. But that’s just my opinion/conclusion.

  17. Let’s see if his play can match the media blitz the 9ers feel obligated to cram down our throats.

  18. Most people here don’t get it. Adversity and pressure will come from him occasionally stumbling and throwing an INT or two in a game. How he handles failure will determine how he’ll succeed.

    I think we don’t think we know that yet. But I also won’t be critical of him if he does not perform well in some games. It’s called growth.
    He was allowed the luxury of sitting behind Jimmy because unlike Wilson, Lawrence and Fields, Lance is on a Super Bowl caliber team.

  19. DrewSports says:
    June 17, 2022 at 11:33 am
    They should stayed out and drafted Mac Jones.

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    The point of replacing Jimmy G and taking Lance was to draft a young QB with star potential who is a clear upgrade if he hits. Not to take someone whose ceiling may very well be Jimmy G or Kirk Cousins.

  20. When coaches constantly brag about their players being great, it puts a ton of pressure on them to meet those expectations. The veterans can handle it, but the rookies can’t.

    Shanahan is taking pressure off of his young QB

  21. These comments from fans of teams who have not been in the Super Bowl two of the last three years are pretty funny. The funniest ones are those that talk about Lance possibly sitting another year behind Jimmy and those that somehow claim as fact that Shanahan doesn’t trust Lance. If you follow the 49ers you’d know that Jimmy will be gone from the roster on opening day, and that Kyle and the coaches are beside themselves thrilled with Lance.

  22. Hilarious reading all these comments.
    Kyle Shanahan made Nick Mullens a competent WB. there is no reason to doubt he will scheme Lance into some degree of success. How far Lance takes it is of course, up to him.
    Time will tell, but it’s hilarious reading about the doomsday comments this early.
    Armchair GMs. Always keeps life interesting

  23. Lynch is Jeff Fisher all over again. Accomplish nothing while avoiding media pressure for years. Dude has to go.

  24. Trey Lance could be the next Mahomes or the next Vince Young. Only time will tell. Mac Jones comp to me is a younger Matt Ryan who Shanahan turned into a league’s MVP and almost won a SB. So imagine what Shanahan could have done with Mac Jones.

  25. There is no rhyme or reason why Lance should have gone #3 overall, let alone traded up for like that.
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    My point was it’s one thing to ask a young QB to sit on the bench for a while to learn from a great QB like say Montana. Rodgers did it and he learned a lot from Favre.

    What can Lance possibly learn on the bench from someone like Jimmy? That’s not productive for his development. He’s raw and he needs to play. The Buffalo Bills didn’t keep Josh Allen on the bench behind Tyrod Taylor they let him play and learn from his struggles and it paid off.

    That’s why I say we’ll find out a lot this year about what the Niners really think of Lance. If they think he’s all that he’ll play.

  26. mongonation says:
    June 17, 2022 at 11:46 am
    DrewSports says:
    June 17, 2022 at 11:33 am
    They should stayed out and drafted Mac Jones.

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    The point of replacing Jimmy G and taking Lance was to draft a young QB with star potential who is a clear upgrade if he hits. Not to take someone whose ceiling may very well be Jimmy G or Kirk Cousins.

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    Riddle me this:

    How is Joe Burrow, a consensus the #1 overall pick out of LSU with the senior year he had, the national title, etc, in 2020, yet somehow Mac Jones with the same kind of trajectory, production and peformance, somehow not seen in the same light in 2021 after being coached by Saban at Bama?

    You know why?

    Because too many teams try to get too cute and think they’re the smartest people in the league, patting each other on the back as the media wants to talk about them, sick of talking about the Patriots. That’s why.

    That’s why 3-4 inferior franchises, outside of Jax with the consensus #1 pick in Trevor Lawrence, all passed on Mac Jones. Even Denver passed on Jones and is now paying an aging, chubby QB 37 million per year and losing future drafts in the process. Hmm.

    Why would a kid who beat out a 5 star recruit in Bryce Jones, coached by Saban, do what he did, somehow be seen as someone who won’t ascend at the NFL level, somehow Trey Lance from Div 2 or Zach Wilson, a small QB with a DIv 2 schedule from BYU, or even the mechanically flawed and slow to process Justin Fields, all magically be deemed superior?

    Are we sure the analysis is correct? Hmm?

    Or, is it that some NFL franchises are dumb and twist themselves into a pretzel, thinking they’re smart, when they’re really not?

    I think it’s the latter.

  27. Shanahan/Lynch have gotten the 49ers to the NFC Championship game 2 times in 3 years. Anyone calling for their heads or bashing Shanahan has some other motive for saying such things.

    Shanahan has said all along that he wanted to start Jimmy last year to give their young QB a year to learn. That’s very normal and I think a smart move. No one knows how Trey will turn out, not even Trey himself. But I would 1 million percent trust Shanahan/Lynch to evaluate talent over any random fan making anonymous comments on the internet.

    Regarding Mac Jones, it’s actually a sign of how poorly the Patriots have been playing that Mac Jones had to start last year. He could have benefited sitting behind, eh Cam Newton? The Belichick genius label has looked more and more like it was Brady all along. Mac Jones looks nothing like a long term answer. He is no Joe Burrow or Justin Herbert who flashed potential right away. No, you Patriot fans will be wanting a new QB in a few years and will most likely be picking early again.

  28. Very obvious that 99% of the commenters here didn’t even listen to the interview and just want to hate on someone that has hardly played.

  29. Wow! This subject made for some VERY interesting comments: “Cut to the chase – Trey can’t play” … blah, blah played in place of Tyrod” which apparently was pure brilliance from that team – “…sit him…” should not have got him…” “… draft move of the century…” etc., etc. “Very obvious… commenters here didn’t even listen to the interview and just want to hate on someone that has hardly played” may have a valid point. The ONLY thing I do get from all this is there are more negative vibes than good for some unknown reason. Oh well.

    Sitting here in Trey’s backyard, watching his every public move, I actually feel he CAN play. How well – who is to say.

  30. People talking about Mac Jones need to stop being hypocritical and add Tua to the same conversation. It’s the same thing. You can’t pick and choose

  31. Jimmypinthe416 says:
    June 17, 2022 at 5:35 pm
    People talking about Mac Jones need to stop being hypocritical and add Tua to the same conversation. It’s the same thing. You can’t pick and choose

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    Poor comprehension again.

    Tua is injury prone and his own teammates at Bama said Mac was better.

    Try again.

  32. Lance is a great athlete. Can make every throw. Has the legs to get out of trouble. When I saw him in college, I thought he reminded me of a young Joe Montana (athletically). Montana was a phenomenal athlete, not just a smart guy. Shanahan is a great coach. I had my doubts about Lance as an NFL QB, but I look forward to seeing what a great coach can do with a great talent. I’m also willing to wait 3 years to start evaluating. If you’re waiting for week 1 to make an instant evaluation on a young NFL QB, perhaps you’re rushing things a bit. Just sit back and be patient. Enjoy the progress. Teams that draft young QB’s, and then pull the plug before they ever mature, never get to the finish line. See John Elway.

  33. I love how Christian Watson made Lance who he was at NDSU and got the 49ers to bite and give up all those draft locks. And now let’s sit back and watch Watson become a stud.

  34. Jimmy is an insurance policy and after a few starts with Trey, they will be glad Jimmy had his surgery. If Trey turns out to be a bust, things will get really interesting in San Francisco.

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