Packers can overtake Bears as NFL’s all-time winningest franchise in Week Two

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The Bears have been the NFL’s winningest franchise since before the team was called the Bears and before the league was called the NFL: In 1920, the inaugural season of the American Professional Football Association, the Decatur Staleys won a league-high 10 games. The APFA became the NFL, the Decatur Staleys became the Chicago Bears, and the franchise has always maintained its lead as the team with the most wins.

That can change soon.

The Bears currently have 783 wins, and the Packers are one behind at 782. That means that if the Packers beat the Vikings and the Bears lose to the 49ers in Week One, they’ll be tied at 783 wins. And then the Packers and Bears face off on Sunday night in Week Two, with the Packers having the chance to surpass the Bears for the first time ever.

As noted by NFL researcher Jack Andrade, the Packers have gained a huge amount of ground on the Bears in the last 30 years: Chicago entered the 1992 season with 85 more wins than Green Bay, but since 1992 the Packers have won 84 more games than the Bears. 1992 was Brett Favre’s first season as the Packers’ starting quarterback; they’ve had 30 years of first-ballot Hall of Fame quarterbacks with Favre and Aaron Rodgers since then.

The Vegas oddsmakers think the Packers will win about five more games than the Bears this year: The Packers’ over/under win total is 11.5, while the Bears’ is 6.5. So it’s highly likely that the Packers will surpass the Bears for the franchise win title. Perhaps in a nationally televised prime time game in Week Two.

56 responses to “Packers can overtake Bears as NFL’s all-time winningest franchise in Week Two

  1. Another decade of dominance will follow with Jordan Love at the helm…. Right Gutekunst? That’s why you used a 1st round pick on a Backup QB after ending one game short of the super bowl? Right Gute?

  2. Good over the pick Packers Fans and Aaron Rodgers. It maybe a bad pick, because he’s not a great QB. But the logic of having a good inexpensive backup QB is sound, especially since AR always wants to be highest paid. You need to balance the cap hit.

  3. There will be a big gap between those records at the end of the season.

  4. In addition to having Favre and Rodgers in recent years Green Bay has done a better job of making their players understand the importance of the rivalry. Save all the smart ass comments about it being easier to do when you have the more talented players, I know the Bears have been a pathetic football organization for a while but the Packer players seem to treat it as a big game, the Bears players rarely do. All the Rodgers owns the Bears comments prove my point. After he made that comment, in the next game they played, where was the Bears defensive player who knocked Rodgers on his ass and stood over him and said ‘You don’t own anybody in Chicago b&*%#!’ Yes it would have resulted in a fine and suspension but that is the kind of toughness the Bears used to have and sorely need again. It’s been absent since the Payton era, even Urlacher and that group didn’t quite get it.

  5. Rodgers does “own” the Bears beating them soundly 23 times and the best one, in my opinion, January 23rd, 2011!

  6. That will be short lived.

    When Aaron retires, Justin Fields should have a much better roster to hammer Jordan Love’s team with.

    For now though, GB should still cruise through the NFCN.

  7. We could add the Minneapolis Marines and Red Jackets victories to the Vikings’ total wins, but no – it wouldn’t help much because they weren’t good either. Six total wins in six seasons. Oh well.

  8. 14 teams in 1920….269 wins prior to 1961, lets put an asterisk next to those wins for lack of competition. From 1961 and on the Pittsburgh Steelers have the most wins

  9. We play the Vikings week 1 and week 16. That means if we somehow manage to loose our first game, we will have to listen to Viking fans for 16 weeks. That’s a must win game now.

  10. Can overtake the Bears? WILL overtake the Bears. As a Packer fan growing up in the 70s and 80s and having had to survive the insufferable and overrrated Ditka Bears, it’s going to be sweet. Frankly, these franchises have been on dramatically different paths for more than 30 years. The Bears are and have been an utter mess for a long time. Favre and Rodgers put a punctuation on the imbalance, but it’s much more than that. The Packers are a quality well run solid franchise….bettter drafting, bettter coaching, better players better teams. The Bears have been mostly adrift for almost 40 years, to the point where I no longer feel scorn, but pity. Good luck this season “monsters of the midway”….soon to add Justin Fields to the endless list of Bears QB blunders.

  11. Rodgers owns the Bears, except for the in the playoffs. He threw two interceptions and no touchdown passes back in that NFC championship game. Keep in mind, Jay Cutler left the game and Todd Collins took over. That’s the only reason Aaron has a ring right now.

  12. 60ftlesbianoctopus says:

    Another decade of dominance will follow with Jordan Love at the helm…. Right Gutekunst?
    +++++
    First Aaron – whose currently 50-50 – seems committed to another season in the Green and Gold.

    Packer fan hopes for health behind an offensive line with injury uncertainty, but Nijman was adequate on the left and will prove an asset on the Right whenever/if Jenkins or Bak return.

    As for Gute wish he’d taken Patrick Queen, Tee Higgins or Pittman at 26. But for perspective Tennessee took Wilson at 29 (who’s played FOUR snaps), and Gladney went at 31. RIP to all.

  13. Big deal. The Bears and Packers have the most wins because they were around decades before most other teams. They got a 20 – 30 year head start over the other teams.

  14. It was and is bound to happen according to all the annalists ‘.The lines in Vegas only have the Bears winning 6.5 games this year. But, with a new coach and a new game plan I think the Bears will surprise some people. Fields is going light it up. #Surprise.

  15. How long ’till the Vikings overtake the Packers as the NFL’s winningest team? We hear they’re on the cusp of their dynasty. All the time. Year after year.

  16. The Vikings are the only team in the NFC Central that can compete against the Packers.

  17. The Steelers were founded in 1933, Paul. Since there was a “lack of competition” then, surely they piled up a ton of wins and championships before 1961.

  18. I get a kick out of Bears fans locking on to one questionable pick, Jordan Love, on whom the jury is still out….whereas Justin Fields is only the latest questionable QB 1st round picks from a list that includes “talents” like Cade McKnown, Mitch Trubisky and a dozen other forgettable bums. With the Bears you have to go back the leather helmets to find Sammy Baugh to even name an EVEN average QB. The Packers won two Super Bowls before the Bears and two since the Bears 85 fluke. Bears fans have been sucking GB fumes for decades!

  19. The Bears have squandered so many 1st and 2nd round draft picks trying to make the HEADLINE MAKING TRADES that never seem to work out for them. And wasted salary cap with huge contracts on players that never performed to that level. There’s your difference over the past 20+ years.

  20. Meaningless stat seeing as both teams have been around about 30 years longer than most of the others.

  21. radar773 says:
    July 9, 2022 at 12:15 pm

    Big deal. The Bears and Packers have the most wins because they were around decades before most other teams. They got a 20 – 30 year head start over the other teams.
    **********
    Not on everyone, there are a number of legacy teams that have been around almost as long.
    It matters.

    But what’s truly amazing is the fact that the Green Bay Packers have posted a .572 winning percentage, the best in NFL history.
    That means that throughout the decades, despite the numerous ways the game and rules have changed, the Packers have always adapted.
    Adapted quite well, and won.

    Truly remarkable, especially when you factor in Green Bay’s small town stature against all of the well-heeled big cities they’ve battled against though the ages.
    Obviously, it’s a completely different situation today, especially with free agency and t.v. contracts, but this David vs. Goliath story is no less amazing.
    And that, is a big deal. 😉

  22. Meaningless stat seeing as both teams have been around about 30 years longer than most of the others.——Not meaningless, as that negates the history of the league. But yes, you can grade on a curve and look at franchise winning percentage in the regular season instead. I understand that viewpoint.

    Oh, looky there. Packers are #1 with a .572, following by Cowboys, Patriots and Bears. The Packers already are #1.

  23. radar773 says:
    July 9, 2022 at 1:43 pm
    The Vikings are the only team in the NFC Central that can compete against the Packers.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    The Vikings are the only team in the NFCN that considers the Packer game their SuperBowl.

  24. The nfl central/ nfc central/ nfc north started in 1967. As much as GB has dominated in the last 20 years, Minnesota dominated the 1st 35 seasons.

  25. As long as Aaron Rodgers is there the packers are the most disliked team in the nfl. Self smitten lying jerk

  26. Kabasaman says:
    It was and is bound to happen according to all the annalists ‘.The lines in Vegas only have the Bears winning 6.5 games this year. But, with a new coach and a new game plan I think the Bears will surprise some people. Fields is going light it up. #Surprise.

    ———-

    The Bears are going to #Surprise a lot of over-optimistic Bears homers who wouldn’t know a quality team even if they saw one beat up on their team while wearing green and gold twice a year.

  27. jameshodges says:

    Rodgers … “threw two interceptions and no touchdown passes….Keep in mind, Jay Cutler left the game and Todd Collins took over. That’s the only reason Aaron has a ring right now.”

    +++++

    Jay Cutler was 6-14 for 80 yards (1 Pick) and left the game one series after half-time.
    Bears were scoreless. Collins went 0-4. Caleb Hanie relieved with 30 seconds left in the 3rd quarter, and led 2 td drives in just under 15 minutes of play.

    So I don’t think Cutler leaving had anything to do with it.

    Now had you said the only reason Aaron Rodgers has a ring right now is because of Desean Jackson’s insane punt return vs the Giants in Week 15….Full Agreement.

  28. Little known fact that the Bears founder George Halas helped out the Packers in the 1950’s several times to help keep the franchise in Green Bay(as per Chicago Tribune). It’s true without Papa Bears help, the Packers might well have been located elsewhere.

  29. There is no doubt that George Halas helped the Packers with loans, stadium fundraising to build Lambeau during 1956 referendum. He was the NFL’s founder, but he helped the Pack survive their darkest hours. Most Packers fans know this history, I hope. Always respect the Bears rivalry. Go Pack!

  30. One more. Virginia McCaskey could not have been more gracious in her comments to the crowd as she handed the Halas trophy to the Packers after the 2010 Championship game in Chicago. As I said, always respect the Bears rivalry.

  31. stellarperformance says:
    July 9, 2022 at 3:12 pm
    radar773 says:
    July 9, 2022 at 1:43 pm
    The Vikings are the only team in the NFC Central that can compete against the Packers.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    The Vikings are the only team in the NFCN that considers the Packer game their SuperBowl.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You keep saying this, but you are plagiarizing Bud Grant who said this in the 70s about the packers. “The packers always try and win their games against us, because it is their Super Bowl”. Get your own material.

  32. isitfootballseasonyet says:
    July 9, 2022 at 5:59 says:
    You keep saying this, but you are plagiarizing Bud Grant who said this in the 70s about the packers. “The packers always try and win their games against us, because it is their Super Bowl”. Get your own material.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

    You’re forgetting your grandpa is a also a lifelong frustrated Viking fan, just like you. That’s where you heard that story.

  33. As the most successful franchise in NFL history with a record 13 World Championships, the Packers are on the cusp of setting a well deserved new record cementing our status as the gold standard of the NFL that every other team looks up to.

    So much love. So much respect. It truly is humbling to be a fan of this amazing team.

  34. Bud Grant choked 4 Super bowls. Why bring this loser up in the comment section about a Packer/Bear article.

  35. Halas never loaned the Packers money, it was the other way around. Halas couldn’t make payroll and was about to fold up until Curly Lambeau and the Packers stepped in. Go look it up.

    The two teams helped each other out quite a few times in the early years which we should ALL be thankful for. There would BE no NFL without them. Mostly Halas. He was the driving force that made this league work but he never would have made it without Lambeau and the Packers.

  36. stellarperformance says:
    July 9, 2022 at 6:21 pm
    isitfootballseasonyet says:
    July 9, 2022 at 5:59 says:
    You keep saying this, but you are plagiarizing Bud Grant who said this in the 70s about the packers. “The packers always try and win their games against us, because it is their Super Bowl”. Get your own material.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

    You’re forgetting your grandpa is a also a lifelong frustrated Viking fan, just like you. That’s where you heard that story.

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What? “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser” BTW my grandfather was born in 1899.

  37. If the Vikings were to win the next 2 Super Bowls (IKR?) the Packers would hold the championship edge 13-2. Let that sink in.

  38. “….started in 1967. As much as GB has dominated in the last 20 years, Minnesota dominated the 1st 35 seasons.”

    +++++

    Minnesota won 11 of the first 14 titles. DOMINATION.

    Minnesota has 9 titles in the subsequent 41 years since 1980 (22%). Near smack dab average.

    Green Bay has won 15 of the last 27 titles since 1995 (56%). Minnesota has won 6 of the last 27 titles since ’95 (22%).

    Seems like Green Bay has been in the driver’s seat for 27 years, not 20.

  39. Packerlies… you can break it down several different ways. I was actually breaking it down from the old central and the north. I didn’t specify that… my bad there. One thing the Vikes do have is 6 straight. I know it was awhile back but neither the bears or pack have done that since the division started.

  40. The 1920 Akron Pros finished the season undefeated, with an 8-0-3 record. While the Decatur Staleys had two more wins than the Akron Pros, their 10-1-2 record included a loss. Because the Akron Pros had an undefeated season, they were considered the very first league champions of what is now the NFL.

  41. We like to talk about division championships in Minnesota, not super bowl wins . . .

  42. As long as Aaron Rodgers is there the packers are the most disliked team in the nfl. Self smitten lying jerk
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    Hi

    – Patriots, Cowboys

  43. Rodgers owns the Bears, except for the in the playoffs. He threw two interceptions and no touchdown passes back in that NFC championship game. Keep in mind, Jay Cutler left the game and Todd Collins took over. That’s the only reason Aaron has a ring right now.
    ==========

    Keep in mind they had the #2 defense.

    … the ONLY time Rodgers has played with a top 5 defense.

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