Report: Jessie Bates has no intention to report to training camp or play on franchise tag

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The Bengals and franchise-tagged safety Jessie Bates are not expected to come to a long-term contract agreement before the 4 p.m. ET deadline on Friday, according to multiple reports.

And now he may miss time in training camp and beyond.

Per NFL Media’s Ian Rapoport, the Bengals’ final offer guaranteed Bates only $4 million more on a five-year contract than the $12.91 million he is slated to make on the one-year franchise tender in 2022.

But Bates has not yet signed his franchise tender. And according to Josina Anderson of CBS Sports, Bates has no intention to report to training camp or play on the franchise tag in 2022.

That would set up Bates for a Le’Veon Bell-type season, where he’d sit out the year and become a free agent in 2023. But as Bell noted this week, that strategy comes with its share of risk.

Bates, 25, has been a critical piece of Cincinnati’s defense since the club selected him in the second round of the 2018 draft. He’s started all 63 games that he’s played, recording 10 interceptions, 35 passes defensed, a pair of forced fumbles, and a pair of fumble recoveries in the regular season.

He also had two interceptions and six passes defensed in the postseason for last year’s AFC Champions.

Cincinnati drafted safety Daxton Hill and defensive back Cam Taylor-Britt in the first two rounds before adding safety Tycen Anderson at No. 166 overall this year.

59 responses to “Report: Jessie Bates has no intention to report to training camp or play on franchise tag

  1. Good for him, that’s a horrible proposal from the Bengals in terms of guarantees for a great player.

  2. They all say this. Once the game checks start coming he will be there. The only one I can remember to follow through with this threat was Leveon Bell and he completely ruined his career by doing so.

  3. Bates done. Brown won’t move. We’ll see how good their drafting has been. They passed on Dugger.

  4. This is only the beginning. Just wait till it comes time for Joe Burrow. They will low-ball him too.

  5. As good as the Bengals were last year (mind blowing, actually), things like this remind you why they aren’t a top flight team. You have a really good, durable player, and he’s talking about sitting because you can’t give him a respectable offer. I’m sure a deal will get done, but other players around the league watch this stuff happening and think, “Do I want to play for them?”

  6. I’d show up but only physically. It sounds insane to us, but $12m guaranteed for the rest of his life isn’t worth it if he’s permanently injured this season. Show up, slog your way through things until you get a deal. If you don’t, they’ll pay $12m for a guy whose playing safe, not safety. Then sign a guaranteed deal next year with a new team.

    It sucks and as a fan i’d want to hate on it, but the truth is I’d rather not risk it too because a billionaire doesn’t want to give you a few more million guaranteed

  7. So, he turned down a 5 year contract paying him roughly $13 million per season? WOW. Dude should sign that contract and RUN. He’s getting some really bad advice in my opinion.

  8. He’ll never make up he money by sitting out a year..and he’s not taking the pounding of a running back so he will sit out training camp and sign right before he season..then he will pull a hamstring have a terrible season and sign a 5M prove it deal next year

  9. touchback6 says:
    July 15, 2022 at 2:22 pm
    Bates done. Brown won’t move. We’ll see how good their drafting has been

    ———

    Let’s compare drafting. They selected Ja’Marr Chase. BB selected N’Keal Harry. Any questions?

  10. Apparently he heard all those stories about how Mike Brown was suddenly a big spender and lighting cigars with $100 bills.

  11. Safety isn’t a critical position like edge rusher, LOT, QB or shut down corner. Take the money fool.

  12. I will miss The Bates that plays when he’s motivated, I won’t miss the Bates who misses open field tackles and gets beat on deep coverages. He’s a good not great safety looking for elite money who is a legend in his own mind thanks to the gassing up of his agent. The Bengals have already made plans to move on with Dax Hill and or Tycen Anderson. If he wants to sit out the season that’s on him, although I can’t see how that is going to help him score a top contract next year.

  13. $13M to play one year st Safety? Sounds about right. Cash those checks and hit the market next year. He’ll be fine.

  14. Bates was made a fair proposal. He is hurting himself far more than he is hurting the Bengals. He really didn’t have a great year in 2021. If his play was better he would have had a better argument. He’s not Joe Borrow, Bates can be replaced fairly easily. Some players never seem to understand that sitting out a year over money is a guaranteed loser.

  15. With the Burrow contract looming next off season and Jamarr the year after, I don’t blame the Bengals on this one. Priorities my man. You can’t sign everyone.

  16. Not going to play? You might consult Le’veon Bell first. Ask him how that worked out for him.

  17. I know that players want to get what “everyone else” is getting at their position, but I have trouble feeling sorry for a guy that turns down $12M a year to play football.

    Even if he only plays for one year, $12 Million dollars is more than 95% of us will make in our entire working lifetimes. That’s $266,000 a year, assuming he retires at 65.

  18. Players get paid very little for playoff games. I wonder if any soon to be free agents pull a hammy to avoid injury in a low compensation game? College players are opting out of bowl games. Could happen soon.

  19. bmorepositive123 says:
    July 15, 2022 at 2:42 pm
    I’d show up but only physically…Show up, slog your way through things until you get a deal. If you don’t, they’ll pay $12m for a guy whose playing safe, not safety. Then sign a guaranteed deal next year with a new team.
    ———–
    What kind of guaranteed deal is the guy going to get next year if he’s just mailing it in this year?

  20. Ronnie Lott made one million dollars in 1992 for the first time in his career. Bates won’t step on the field for $13 million. Bates is no Ronnie Lott. This is why I’m growing to hate the NFL.

  21. “msc4realeagles says: July 15, 2022 at 2:47 pm So, he turned down a 5 year contract paying him roughly $13 million per season? WOW. Dude should sign that contract and RUN. He’s getting some really bad advice in my opinion.”…………………………………………..
    You clearly don’t get it. He has $13 Million for one season in 2022 on the tag. The Bengals offered him $17 Million Guaranteed instead of the $13 Million he already is guaranteed for the pleasure of controlling his rights as a player for 2022-2026. If at any time they felt like cutting him or he injures himself they cut him and owe him next to nothing. That offer was a slap in the face.

  22. I hate the franchise tag. I have hated it ever since it came out. To me it gives leverage, whatever level it might be, to the team. Fearing injury during a franchise year with no future contract in hand, meaning no guaranteed money now, can cause a player to take a lesser deal just to not risk the guarantee in hand. If no franchise tag existed, the player can truly get a true free market deal.

    The franchise tag’s name should be changed to the “I want you on my team but don’t want to pay you” tag.

  23. As a Bengals fan I can say during the regular season the play I saw from Bates was below average backed up by his sub 60 PFT rating. He turned it on in the playoffs but he isn’t elite if he can’t bring it game in and game out. He played like the 10th best safety in the league and is getting paid the 10th highest salary for 2022. Sounds fair to me. I would take any of the 9 guys getting paid more over him all day every day.

  24. pkrlvr says:
    July 15, 2022 at 5:02 pm

    Ronnie Lott made one million dollars in 1992 for the first time in his career. Bates won’t step on the field for $13 million. Bates is no Ronnie Lott. This is why I’m growing to hate the NFL
    ____________________

    Stop it. Comparing a salary from 30 years ago? Really? Bates is easily right according to his play on the field and current DB salaries. Pay up, Bengals. Haha, first chink in your mystical SB run. Lucky don’t strike twice unless your name is Tom Brady.

  25. I’ve read the rumors of the offers, bates sounds greedy honestly. They offered a top 5 contract but he wanted more guarantees. The bengals are smart, why would you guarantee money with no production guarantees? Sorry but bates is looking to cash in and not be a team player. Lost all respect because I thought he was THE team player. Sorry bates.

  26. “things like this remind you why they aren’t a top flight team”
    __________

    Counterpoint: How many top flight teams overpay for safeties?

  27. my3cents says:
    July 15, 2022 at 4:57 pm
    bmorepositive123 says:
    July 15, 2022 at 2:42 pm
    I’d show up but only physically…Show up, slog your way through things until you get a deal. If you don’t, they’ll pay $12m for a guy whose playing safe, not safety. Then sign a guaranteed deal next year with a new team.
    ———–
    What kind of guaranteed deal is the guy going to get next year if he’s just mailing it in this year?
    _______________________________

    it worked out for Emmitt Smith and darrelle revis. it’s worked out for a number of guys. Show up to the pre-season stuff but only “sort of” participate. don’t go in tackling guys hard. show up, but don’t go the extra yard. make sure you’re in shape and there. don’t take days off, but be smart about what you do and how you do it. The nfl is a business and plenty of teams need safety help. This guys just gotta get through this year without being injured but still getting credit for a year of service

  28. Quick, someone hold those mens head under a cold faucet until they get their senses back.

  29. So weird to see so many people in these comments siding with a billionaire over a millionaire.

  30. This is where the Bengals shoot themselves in the foot and come off as cheap. They offer a competitive yearly salary but always lowball the guaranteed portion. Being a family owned team they don’t have the billionaire pockets to write that full guarantee check amount the CNA requires.

  31. Cincinnati is as cheap as Pittsburgh is in terms of paying top talent of a certain persuasion. Bates won’t get paid until he hits the open market.

  32. Eagles beat the GOAT says:
    July 15, 2022 at 5:26 pm
    I hate the franchise tag. I have hated it ever since it came out. To me it gives leverage, whatever level it might be, to the team. Fearing injury during a franchise year with no future contract in hand, meaning no guaranteed money now, can cause a player to take a lesser deal just to not risk the guarantee in hand. If no franchise tag existed, the player can truly get a true free market deal.

    The franchise tag’s name should be changed to the “I want you on my team but don’t want to pay you” tag.

    ———

    Actually they are paying the player as top 5 at the position. It’s more like paying on a 1-year contract.

  33. All of you would take a deal that didn’t value you properly, apparently. You’ve got to stop looking at these situations through the lens of, “I make $20 an hour so these guys are greedy.” It’s all relative. The guy low-balling the players is making money hand over fist on the backs of their labor.

  34. This whole narrative about the Bengals being cheap is just tired and lazy. As much as us Bengals fans love Bates, we can’t overpay for a safety, when we have upcoming contracts due for Higgins, Burrow and Chase. While Bates is certainly very good, he is not consistently elite, whereas Higgins, Burrow and Chase are and will be paid as such.

  35. This franchise tag stuff is fairly ridiculous. If I was a player I would welcome it. You get paid like one of the best even though you may not be. Yes it may not serve the player in the long run if they suffer a significant injury but that’s why these guys should be insured out of their own pockets. Kirk Cousins made a boat load of money signing the tags. A lot of the times this is generational wealth type of money if the player can count 10 fingers and 10 toes. The problem is a lot of them can’t.

  36. Smart move passing on 12 million just kidding. How did sitting out a year work for Bell?

  37. Everyone is so caught up in the moment. The Bengals are planning to be good for years. They have Dax as a replacement, and are going to have to pay Burrow and Chase in a couple years. It’s not greed, it’s smart salary cap planning.

  38. Pedantic Weasel says:
    July 15, 2022 at 8:48 pm

    All of you would take a deal that didn’t value you properly, apparently. You’ve got to stop looking at these situations through the lens of, “I make $20 an hour so these guys are greedy.” It’s all relative. The guy low-balling the players is making money hand over fist on the backs of their labor.
    _______________________

    Exactly. And when a player takes a cheap deal, that hurts the other players. But you guys don’t bat eye when Tom Cruise won’t do a movie for less than 40 mil.

  39. Dax Hill – $2.9m/yr. for 4 yrs. $5.7m guaranteed.
    That’s how you keep cap for Burrow & Chase.

  40. He’s right not to sign the contract. A five-year deal just means he’s tied up for five years where he won’t be getting a raise if he’s good, and he gets cut if he doesn’t play to expectations. A player who’s 25 needs to be able to sign his third contract at 28 or 29, not 30.

    At the same time, as a second-round pick, he has been paid peanuts his first four seasons. I’d really like to see him sign the tender, get the $12.9 million, then get aggressive next year when he’s got some coin in the bank.

  41. This “ only $4 million more” is what’s wrong with professional sports.

  42. Terrible choice by this guy the Bengals don’t mess with salaries like any other team. The owner is very frugal, it wasn’t very long ago they had to pay for extra towels and didn’t have a good practice field. His agent better tell the kid

  43. nhpats2011 says:
    July 15, 2022 at 3:02 pm
    touchback6 says:
    July 15, 2022 at 2:22 pm
    Bates done. Brown won’t move. We’ll see how good their drafting has been

    ———

    Let’s compare drafting. They selected Ja’Marr Chase. BB selected N’Keal Harry. Any questions?

    ——————————————————————————–

    I have a question why are you comparing a #6 overall pick with a guy that was drafted at the end of the first round??? Typical fan logfic of a losing franchise. FYI not a Patriots fan.

  44. nhpats2011 says:
    July 15, 2022 at 3:02 pm
    touchback6 says:
    July 15, 2022 at 2:22 pm
    Bates done. Brown won’t move. We’ll see how good their drafting has been

    ———

    Let’s compare drafting. They selected Ja’Marr Chase. BB selected N’Keal Harry. Any
    questions?

    ——————————————————————————————Another question why do you believe the Bengals brass are good at drafting all of a sudden?

    They drafted Burrow #1 no brainer and Jamaar the top WR the next year who was Burrow’s college teammate another no brainer….I have a rock it would have done the same thing.

  45. The Bengals are a cheap loser organization. Still no indoor facility?? Have to bus to a campus at the north end of the city!!!!

  46. ———Another question why do you believe the Bengals brass are good at drafting all of a sudden?

    They drafted Burrow #1 no brainer and Jamaar the top WR the next year who was Burrow’s college teammate another no brainer….I have a rock it would have done the same thing.

    —————————————-
    They drafted Burrow
    They drafted Chase
    They drafted Higgins
    They drafted Boyd
    They drafted Mixon
    They drafted Huber
    They drafted McPherson
    THEY DRAFTED BATES
    They drafted many others still playing in the league.

    You can sit down now.

  47. trentdilfer08 says:

    July 16, 2022 at 10:51 am

    nhpats2011 says:
    July 15, 2022 at 3:02 pm
    touchback6 says:
    July 15, 2022 at 2:22 pm
    Bates done. Brown won’t move. We’ll see how good their drafting has been

    ———

    Let’s compare drafting. They selected Ja’Marr Chase. BB selected N’Keal Harry. Any
    questions?

    ——————————————————————————————Another question why do you believe the Bengals brass are good at drafting all of a sudden?

    They drafted Burrow #1 no brainer and Jamaar the top WR the next year who was Burrow’s college teammate another no brainer….I have a rock it would have done the same thing
    ———
    Hmmmmm looks like another of touchback6 burners has been spotted, what a troll

  48. Bates wants top 3 safety money which would be in the $16-$19 mil per range. While he may be a good player, he is definitely not an elite play maker worth that kind of money. Bates is a good system player whom you can usually count on to make the right read and be where he’s supposed to be. He is not a center field play making type of safety with a lot of range like Minkah Fitzpatrick or the type of guy you can walk down to the line and use to get after the QB or make stops in the run game like Jamal Adams. Having said all that, you all can call the Bengals cheap or say its a slap in the face to offer him what they did, but with 2nd contracts coming up for guys like Burrow, Higgins, and Chase, I’ll call it being smart. This isn’t baseball, there’s a hard salary cap in the NFL and that sometimes forces teams to make a hard decision, but I don’t think this one in particular was. This one was more common sense.

  49. The bengals may undervalue safety like they do guard, but it does not make them cheap. They’ll spend to the cap and joe burrow will be the highest paid QB in the league next year if he wants to be. There’s a cap, bates isn’t worth too high of a percentage of it.

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