With one week until camp opens, no news on a new Kyler Murray deal

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It’s been an awkward, at times, offseason for the Cardinals and quarterback Kyler Murray. As of today, the offseason has one week left.

The Cardinals’ veterans report for training camp next Tuesday. On Monday, they found out that apparently disgruntled center Rodney Hudson has returned to regular, normal gruntled status, and will be present for camp. That’s good news. The better news would be a new deal with Murray.

The silence from both sides suggests that they’re talking, and that they’ve agreed to talk only to each other. No leaks, no grandstanding, no social-media messages.

It nevertheless remains to be seen whether they’ll get a deal done. It won’t be easy. The range for the highest-paid quarterbacks keeps stretching. The salary cap keeps increasing. Murray keeps presenting real questions regarding how and where he fits in the broader franchise-quarterback analysis.

Yes, the team has been better with him. But how good will it be? What’s the ceiling? It’s hard to forget the fact that, every year, the team slides down the stretch. It’s impossible to forget last year’s playoff loss to the Rams, in which Murray looked somewhat less than ordinary.

The other question is whether that even matters. For most teams, it’s enough to contend on an annual basis. Only one team wins the Super Bowl. The others hope to merely be in the conversation. Murray has brought that to the Cardinals, and there’s no reason to believe it won’t continue.

That reality is balanced by the fact that, when it was obvious that he wasn’t thrilled with the situation in Arizona, no other team made an aggressive push at trading for him. The Broncos made a beeline for Russell Wilson, not Murray. The Browns went all in for Deshaun Watson. Neither the Seahawks nor the Texans tried to backfill their losses at the position by trading for Murray.

Murray has two seasons to go before commencing the franchise-tag dance. He surely wants, and deserves, security against serious or cumulative injury.

And that’s where the pressure point will be. Beyond the annual average that Murray eventually will secure, how much of the deal will be guaranteed at signing?

That’s where the Watson deal becomes a major complication for the Cardinals. They have a quarterback who isn’t necessarily injury prone but, given his size, he’s more prone to being injured than other quarterbacks. Would the Cardinals be willing to guarantee four or five years of salary given the possibility that Murray will lose a step or two of his uncanny speed and acceleration?

He suffered an ankle injury in Week Eight last year against the Packers. He missed several weeks. When he returned, he still seemed to be bothered by it. A fully-guaranteed deal therefore requires the Cardinals to take a more significant risk, one that most teams don’t take with more traditional quarterbacks who: (1) are larger; and (2) don’t rely so much on running and the threat of running.

So the talks presumably continue. If a deal is coming, it should come this week. Otherwise, the question becomes whether Murray would hold out of camp — or whether he’ll show up and hold in, declining to practice until he has his second contract.

Either way, answers are coming soon. Maybe this week. Maybe next week. Maybe at some point before Week One.

35 responses to “With one week until camp opens, no news on a new Kyler Murray deal

  1. The Watson deal, rather than resetting market, is bursting the QB bubble. The high-end players want what Watson got, but teams are balking (for good reason).

  2. Every pass play is a busted play scramble drill. How is that worth a big money extension?

  3. Okay, Russel Wilson 5ft 11in 215 lbs. Kyler Murray 5ft 10in 207 lbs and both running QB’s. Not much of a difference in physical size. The difference is skills and abilities, that’s why Denver made a move to get Wilson and no team made a move to get Murray. Tough situation for the Cardinals, with that meltdown in the playoffs last year, hard to say franchise QB.

  4. They should wait toward the end the year, before making any decision on a contract extension.

  5. QBs extended after 3 years for big money:

    Carson Wentz

    Jarod Goff

    How did that work out?

  6. covid19 says:
    July 19, 2022 at 9:43 am
    Okay, Russel Wilson 5ft 11in 215 lbs. Kyler Murray 5ft 10in 207 lbs and both running QB’s. Not much of a difference in physical size. The difference is skills and abilities, that’s why Denver made a move to get Wilson and no team made a move to get Murray. Tough situation for the Cardinals, with that meltdown in the playoffs last year, hard to say franchise QB

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    Murray is closer to 5’7” than he is 5’10”

  7. roughingthepasser says:
    July 19, 2022 at 9:52 am

    QBs extended after 3 years for big money:

    Carson Wentz

    Jarod Goff

    How did that work out?
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    I guess these GMs are suppose to be able to predict the future? Both QBs were playing pretty good ball at the time of their deal and QBs get paid big money because that is the market. Hindsight is 20/20. What do guys expect from these QBs? They all can’t make the playoffs or the Super Bowl. Kyler and Lamar made playoffs and pro bowls. If you don’t pay them, who the heck are you gonna pay or play? Tier 2 QBs don’t grow on trees.

  8. His playoff game performance was Lamar Jacksonesque — 11 points / 19 of 34 for 137 yards (7.2 yard av.) / ZERO TDs / TWO interceptions so Arizona would be wise to break the bank for him just like the Ravens are doing for Jackson. Wait.

  9. Kyler better pull all his Cardinals references from his social media links again. Let them know he really means business. Or he can just show up to camp and pout.

  10. The smart move, and Arizona is not known for that, is let him prove it this year as of right now he has shown over the entire season he is only an average QB and not a playoff QB. Especially since ped/cheater receiver will be out for 6 games it will be a good measure if he can win all six of those games and that should be the expectation to meet to get a new contract; losing which leads to his pouting, walking off the field early, poor body language etc would be a good measure to walk away. He is going to cost $50 to $60 million fully guaranteed (depending on how much Russ will reset the market before the 2022 season year is over in march 2023) might as well make sure he can win at least a playoff game in the five years.

  11. I don’t think it’s wise to pay a Running QB in the same fashion as a top Pocket Passer. The risk has to be 3 or 4 times higher for injury,.. and quite honestly running QB’s don’t measure up to the upper echelon QB’s passing statistics. I’d be cautious. His attitude doesn’t impress me either.

  12. His skill set aside, he’s very immature. he doesn’t command the team, he throws the ball. Watch him in the huddle vs Mahomes or Allen.

  13. Murray is going to lead the Cards to the super bowl. Then the A’s are going to make. Run at him.

  14. Tony Awesome says:
    July 19, 2022 at 11:12 am

    I don’t think it’s wise to pay a Running QB in the same fashion as a top Pocket Passer. The risk has to be 3 or 4 times higher for injury,.. and quite honestly running QB’s don’t measure up to the upper echelon QB’s passing statistics. I’d be cautious. His attitude doesn’t impress me either.
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    I’m sure the actual injury data doesn’t support your argument. This is probably the biggest fallacy in football. Most QB injuries come when they are in the pocket regardless if they are runners or not. Lamar finally got an injury in his fourth year and wasn’t from running the football. Not sure why RG3 has to be the poster child for injured running QBs. He is one guy, who else got hurt running the ball? Jimmy G foolishy got injured running the ball near the sideline and taking on a defender. Can you imagine the uproar, if that happened to Lamar? Fallacies…

  15. It’s odd how perceptions differ between players. Mayfield got the woeful Browns to the divisional round, Garoppolo got the 49ers to the Super Bowl, but they’re problems to be remedied. Murray hasn’t even won a playoff game and has looked awful when the lights are brightest, but the talk is about whether he’ll be the highest-paid ever or just very highly paid.

    Guys now expect to be the highest paid before they accomplish anything. Mahomes, Wilson, Rodgers, those guys won a Super Bowl before getting their big contracts. Josh Allen had already won a couple playoff games when he got his and hasn’t slowed down since. Joe Burrow has already been to the Super Bowl.

    Murray? What’s he done?

  16. He has qualities but he still has to show he can put together a full season and he hasnt done that. As far as I’m concerned if I was the gm, it’s wait and see this year.

  17. Unless you are a pocket QB, you will never succeed in this lead. His stats and declining just as Lamar’s did.

  18. The Watson contract didn’t reset the market, it blew the lid off it. Their are many angry owners and G.M’s who now have to deal with their “divas under center” who want his type of contract.

  19. Little Kyler is a big zero when it comes to leadership. He could have handled all this a dozen different ways … and all of them would have been better.

  20. How on earth is this still a thing? In no way shape or form does he deserve a new deal. How about finishing the season winning instead of losing? How about winning a few playoff games first? How about being a leader? Every single play is a broken play and he takes off running. The AZ Cards are making huge mistake IF they re-sign this kid to another deal.

  21. The sooner the Cardinals get rid of him, the better off they will be in the long run.

  22. He’s looks like he is playing in pajamas. But hey. Get your money bro. After all who are they going to replace you with? But then think again. Go for guaranteed money but how big does the pile really have to be? If you keep a secret and really LOVE IT ! in AZ. Then don’t leave because if you go somewhere else and it’s not cool. No amount of $$$,$$$,$$$.00 will make you happier. Just something to think about. Your either going to be the foundation or another brick of the franchise.

  23. No dog in this, but if anyone in the Cards football management watched the GB-AZ game this past year they learned all they needed to know. Murray had the game on his racquet, so to speak, and threw an INT on a throw the elite QB’s make, and cost his team the game. You can blame the receiver all you want, but it’s up to the QB to command the huddle, make sure everyone is on the same page, and then execute at the most critical times. The elite QBs do so time and again, and their records prove it.

  24. “Murray is closer to 5’7” than he is 5’10””

    Somebody at the combine should be fired for being off 3 inches then.

  25. Murray is taller than Thomas Cruise Mapother therefore should make more money than him. Lol

  26. This is BS. How hard is it to get a deal done. Just add 10% to the Browns/Watson deal. Easy

  27. insightfulcomments says:
    July 19, 2022 at 5:09 pm
    “Murray is closer to 5’7” than he is 5’10””

    Somebody at the combine should be fired for being off 3 inches then

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    Perhaps they measured him with his cleats and helmet on. Only then is he 5’10”

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