Chiefs are reportedly frustrated with Orlando Brown Jr. for not taking long-term deal

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Last week, the Chiefs and left tackle Orlando Brown Jr. tried to work out a long-term deal before the window closed on multi-year contracts for franchise-tagged players. The effort failed, and the team reportedly isn’t happy about it.

Via Pete Grathoff of the Kansas City Star, Jeff Chadiha recently explained on NFL Network that the Chiefs are frustrated with Brown’s refusal to take the last, best offer.

“There was frustration and there was disappointment,” Chadiha said, according to Grathoff. “They really like Orlando Brown Jr., they love having him be a part of this team, but the money he was asking for was too high for them. They feel like they don’t want to not have stability at left tackle here, but they also don’t want to pay top-of-the-market money for a player that they don’t think is the best player at his position in the NFL.”

When it comes to converting the franchise tag into a long-term deal, historically it’s been not about making the player the highest paid at his position. It’s been about ensuring that the player gets two years of the franchise tag fully guaranteed at signing. And that’s what the Chiefs tried to do.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the final offer to Brown included $38 million fully guaranteed at signing. That’s more than the two-year tag amount for Brown; he’ll make $16.662 million this year and $19.99 million in 2023, for a total of $36.65 million.

The deal also included another $14.25 million in injury guarantees, which would have converted to a full guarantee in 2024.

Brown wanted, we’re told, a $40 million signing bonus and full guarantees at signing beyond that, along with a real annual average of $25 million.

“One front office person said, ‘This isn’t the same guy that we traded for,'” Chadiha said, via Grathoff. “The feeling there is that when they got him from Baltimore is that he was going to be a team player and work with them on a team-friendly type of deal. That was not the case. Right now we’re looking at a situation where Orlando Brown probably won’t be there for training camp and may not be there for Week One.”

That’s the risk, frankly, of trading for a player without doing a new deal on the way through the door. It has happened multiple times in recent years; Laremy Tunsil went to the Texans without a new deal, Jalen Ramsey went to the Rams without a new deal, and Jamal Adams went to the Seahawks without a new deal. The passage of time after the trade, if the player remains healthy and effective, will drive the final price up. By waiting, the Texans, Rams, and Seahawks all paid more than they would have, if they’d done the deal at the time of the trade.

Although Brown’s refusal to accept the best offer represents a departure from the usual formula for turning a franchise tag into a long-term deal, the circumstances could be changing. The tag for tackles, at $16.665 million in 2022, lags behind the top of the market, which has crossed $23 million. Also, the cap is poised to keep going up and up. Brown’s deal, if he’d taken it, possibly would have been obsolete by next year.

Through it all, it’s important to remember that the Chiefs decided to use the franchise tag in order to keep Brown from becoming an unrestricted free agent in March. The team initiated a process that gives Brown the right, if he so chooses, to make $36.65 million over the next two years and then become an unrestricted free agent, at the age of 28.

For any franchise-tagged player, here’s the question. Will the team make an offer to the player that gets him to give up his ability to go year-to-year for two years, before becoming a free agent? (As explained in Playmakers, any player who is willing and able to go year-to-year for two years can turn the tables on his team, and possibly break the bank.) Brown has opted to reject the final offer of the Chiefs and take $36.65 million over the next two years, and then to enter the open market on the first day of the 2024 spending spree — when the cap may be $30 million or $40 million (or more) higher than it currently is.

The Chiefs may not be happy about that, but Brown has every right to not be happy about being tagged. Once the Chiefs choose to take things in that direction, he acquires the right to say, “I’ll just put in two more years and go.”

54 responses to “Chiefs are reportedly frustrated with Orlando Brown Jr. for not taking long-term deal

  1. Chiefs will be fine, the Raiders offensive line is the worst in the division, possibly the entire league.

  2. I heard the Browns love to hand out ridiculously expensive contracts to players … maybe Brown should check them out. With his name he’d fit right in!!

  3. This is absolutely foolish on Browns part…you turned down 38 mil guaranteed…2 yrs of franchise tag is more than a million less, and there are no guarantees to get that 2nd tag…you blow a knee this year…20 mill passes you by. Just dumb. Chiefs will probably be glad of the outcome once all the dust settles.

  4. When you get into cap hells like this one, which is a doozy in KC, Hill dealt, Mathieu and Sorensen gone, amongst others, and you’d have an insane amount of money like this going to the OL alone with Thuney and Brown.

    Well, that’s just horrendous management and salary allocation because you TRADED for Brown. Brown had all the leverage like Jamal Adams did, when players like that who aren’t even top 5 at their position, shouldn’t have such leverage.

    Veach has really gotten a big head along with all the other players there, where their in house talent is thin. Outside of Mahomes, Jones and Kelce, everything was imported from somewhere else.

  5. He can go now as far as I’m concerned. He was not good last year, possibly below average and the Chiefs made the right move in not over-paying for him.

  6. “The feeling there is that when they got him from Baltimore is that he was going to be a team player and work with them on a team-friendly type of deal. “
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    Lol that’s literally every employer in the country now, “ we thought you’d work for less”.

  7. Why didn’t they just ask Mahomes to make up the difference? That’s chump change to him. The last thing on earth I’d want is my left tackle to be disgruntled while guarding my blind side.

  8. The Chiefs made a big mistake by not having him signed when they made the trade with the Ravens. Having said that 25 million a year for this guy is ridiculous and is not close to his current value. The Chiefs have him tied up for 36 million for 2 years if they want and can trade him any time to someone who is willing to take a chance and set the market on this slightly above average left tackle. Personally I hope they move on and draft a tackle next season. By the way regarding the “Chiefs are in Cap Hell” that will invariably follow, The Chiefs are currently 12 million UNDER the cap.

  9. So they want to keep the guy but to cover their posteriors they leak a bunch of self-serving mumbo jumbo to get the fans all riled up against him? Yeah, that’ll work.

  10. I am frustrated with him too. His name reminds me he isn’t his father and that i am old.

  11. ‘Two more years and go’… Assuming he doesn’t shred a knee or some other career altering injury that limits what he’d make on the open market. Play with fire and you might just get burned.

  12. “The feeling there is that when they got him from Baltimore is that he was going to be a team player and work with them on a team-friendly type of deal.” The reason they got him is because he was pouting about being a RT in Baltimore. How did they think he was going to be a team player?

  13. Them be the rules.

    Also keep in mind Orlando Brown Jr. might foster some resentment towards the whole league for what transpired with his father. The kid is going to make sure he gets his money and some for his dad too.

    Play your cards Jr.

  14. Boohooo, they’re upset because he didn’t take a “team friendly” deal. How many people want to work for less than their fair market value, or would be happy working for an employer that was “frustrated” because you weren’t thrilled to work for less than you’re worth?

  15. He is exhibiting the exact same behavior as he did with the Ravens and why they chose not to bother with him, but the Ravens were smart enough to find the idiot GM and Coach that think they are miracle workers and can easily change a players behavior…everybody but the Chiefs easily saw this coming. Left Tackles even average will always get a premium in free agency he was always going to cost more than $20 million a year with a good amount fully guaranteed. Maybe Mahomes should lead by example and take a 30 or 40 percent pay cut as example of working for less to help out the team, which is basically what they are asking Orlando to do (and also was the expectation of Tyreek).

  16. Lol that’s literally every employer in the country now, “ we thought you’d work for less”.
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    Yes, but unlike every normal employer the NFL has to work with a salary cap. While there millions going around there is a limit that can be spent.

    Chiefs will be fine, the Raiders offensive line is the worst in the division, possibly the entire league.

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    Umm…huh? Didn’t know Offensive Lines went against each other. Which Chandler Jones and Maxx Crosby they have one of the best duos in the league now off the edge.

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    He can go now as far as I’m concerned. He was not good last year, possibly below average and the Chiefs made the right move in not over-paying for him.

    He started off slow yes, but by the end of the year was one of the better tackles in the league.

  17. I don’t fault the player for trying to get the best deal for himself, however he needs to keep in mind what he told the Chiefs in that he was a team player and would welcome working together on a deal, hence the 1st round pick they surrendered to get him. The Chiefs made him a strong offer considering he has limited experience on the left side. I really think this was more about a green agent looking to not look foolish instead of looking out for his client. That is a good deal for Brown and even if the Chiefs wanted the chance to opt of his final year (44 million I beleive) Brown still would bank 95 million over four years and he is still young enough to warrant another multi year extension on the free agent market. He better hope his play doesn’t slip this year because if there is another LT who hits the market and is interested in protecting Mahomes, Brown may have squandered a good thing.

  18. They’ll cut him and learn from the mistake about restructuring at the time of trade . Oh the rest of the league is watching and sure will follow the procedure if they make a big trade.

  19. Where money is important, there are other things that go into consideration with jobs. 1. How is the work environment? Some places will always pay more, but they might not be a great place to work. 2. In regards to sports, how important is winning to you? Like it or not, you play a salary capped sport. Which means each dollar they pay to one player, is one dollar less than available to others. Tom Brady never looked to break the bank in New England, and they had a tradition of winning. (Same with Jordan in Chicago). Do you want to be a high paid player on a team that doesn’t play in the post season? Or is it ok to make a lot of money, but a little less than you could potentially make elsewhere?

  20. If the Chiefs had a QB who played the position correctly — ie, snap, read, throw — instead of all this fiddling & diddling around looking for highlight show plays, any borderline competent LT would do & they wouldn’t find themselves in this mess.

    2023 should be a good draft for QBs. It’s time to dump the most overrated QB in the world and start anew.

  21. touchback6 says:
    July 22, 2022 at 11:00 am

    When you get into cap hells like this one, ….
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    Where did you come up with that? Chiefs are NOT in salary cap hell. They’re estimated at around 15 mill of space. And that includes what Brown’s 2022 salary. That put’s them in the middle of the pack.

  22. Considering that the offer seems perfectly reasonable and far from any low ball, the pressure and risk will now all be on Brown. If he suffers a major injury and/or drop in performance this year, he’ll regret passing on the offer that was presented. That isn’t a good enough motivation to accept a low ball deal, but a fair one?

  23. Show up and play on tag. Yeah it’s risky, but look what it did for cousins. Tag is good money.

  24. Every player wants to be top now if they are at lest top 10. You can blame QB’s and Gm’s for giving it for that happening. Hopefully someone will step up and trade the next QB who is top 10 but wanting number one pay. Cardinals are screwed now that they paid up for a player who does not even have the heart to stay on the field with his team as they lose. The guy who is a choker and has said football is not even his favorite sport. That will bite them for the next 6 years or so.

  25. This seems odd to me. Yes, you want the player to play for a certain price. If that player says no, you can’t cry about it, Chiefs. Yeesh.

  26. From my perspective, the Chiefs did their part. They offered an Overly Fair contract to Brown. Brown played like an average left tackle last year. He does not deserve to be the highest paid left tackle in the league, not by far. Brown was foolish to pass on the offer. If He is smart (which is questionable), he will play on the tag and try to have a Big year. Wouldn’t surprise me if Brown does something foolish like holding out.

  27. Rusty Nale says:
    July 22, 2022 at 11:53 am
    touchback6 says:
    July 22, 2022 at 11:00 am

    When you get into cap hells like this one, ….
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    Where did you come up with that? Chiefs are NOT in salary cap hell. They’re estimated at around 15 mill of space. And that includes what Brown’s 2022 salary. That put’s them in the middle of the pack.

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    Why was Hill dealt then? Why was Mathieu ditched along with Sorensen, your TWO starting Safeties?

    Why wasn’t Brown offered a deal before being acquired? Answer: Cap hell. They had to clear out space to even negotiate! Man, you people are clueless.

    15 million is nothing. You need 7 million for rookies alone. 15 million is why you’re in cap hell, because this contract isn;t done and you were just forced to deal Hill, while losing key starters for what your team has known in recent years.

  28. Cap hell or not, the Chiefs still easily win that division and go deep into the playoffs.

    Chiefs 14-3
    Chargers 12-5
    Broncos 10-7
    Raiders 5-12

  29. You Just Watch,……
    After the 1st or 2nd exhibition game has been played,… he’ll report to camp and sign this same deal or something very similar.
    HE’s BAILING OUT of training camp. These guys don’t want to be at training camp. They only want to play the games and get paid.

  30. You’re too nice to the Raiders dude!

    Chiefs 14-3
    Chargers 12-5
    Broncos 10-7
    *Raiders 3-14

  31. The Chiefs are gonna win the division easily, despite the fact they got significantly worse?Mostly because they couldn’t afford to sign key players. Being in cap hell is not all about where you stand in the pecking order. It’s about who you can retain and who you can afford to go get. And the rest of the division got significantly better. And the Vegas win totals for the Chargers and the Broncos are the same as the Chiefs. I’ll take that bet. IF the Chiefs win the division, a BIG if, It won’t be by much.

  32. To say, “Brown’s deal, if he’d taken it, possibly would have been obsolete by next year.” is called life in the NFL and this players, and this sentiment she was complete lack of perspective and silly greed. Julio Jones would sign the largest WR’s deals and then sulk when others made a dollar more. Arron Donald’s deal before this one made him the highest paid for a few weeks until Khalil Mack got an even bigger deak and you didn’t hear Donald whine.

  33. Baltimore thanks you for Odafe Oweh who could’ve helped that Swiss cheese defense last year. Instead y on have a one year malcontent rental and a lingering contract dispute. Safe to say EDC fleeced the chiefs. Don’t mess (trade) with the bull or you get the horns. Cheers!

  34. When he left my Ravens he said it wasn’t about the money, but about keeping a promise to his dad to play left tackle.

    Phooey

    Excuse my language.

  35. Clearly the Ravens off-loaded this future problem and got a decent return. He’s good, but not good enough to warrant the headache.

  36. “The Kansas City football teams window is closing fast!!”…incorrect! The window already closed at one SB win. Discount Dollar-store Dynasty.

  37. thatravenguy says:
    July 22, 2022 at 2:35 pm
    Baltimore thanks you for Odafe Oweh who could’ve helped that Swiss cheese defense last year. Instead y on have a one year malcontent rental and a lingering contract dispute. Safe to say EDC fleeced the chiefs. Don’t mess (trade) with the bull or you get the horns. Cheers!

    We thank you for Nick Bolton and a minimum of 3 years of control of Brown! The Chiefs were far from fleeced. Cheers!

  38. I laugh when the Chiefs claim they’re not happy with the situation.

    They’re the ones controlling the situation.

    Now you have a player that might not show up for training camp, and part of the season.

    If you don’t think he’s good enough, trade him away and get someone else. Or release him.

    Oh, but they don’t want to do that, he’s good enough to be their starter, they just don’t want to pay him like he’s their starter.

  39. This is how Orlando Brown(Little Zeus) operates. He plays the nice guy routine with Baltimore and then starts whining about he’s a LT. Fact is he’s an average LT but with his style he could be an outstanding RT. Started talking some nonsense about his dad telling him to be a LT and get his money. Ravens had a LT coming off injury last year and still unloaded this guy cause they knew he’d be nothing but a headache and his stock would never be higher than it was at that time. He should have jumped on that offer from KC.

  40. Get paid while you can. Teams don’t give a crap about you if they don’t need you, and will cut dedicated players to save money. No sympathy

  41. I was regretting the loss of Brown when Stanley got hurt. Now, not so much.

  42. If the Chiefs only get 3 years out of Brown the trade will still be acceptable. They sent a late first rounder for Brown and a late second. That is not remotely close to idiocy of the Texans and Seahawks.

  43. Top tackles make approx $25M a year. OB was offered about $19M, 76% of the top tier. I am no judge of talent, but I understand why he could see it as a low offer. KC did a great rebuild of the O line after the SB loss. Now they are letting good players go. Sometimes you have to go elsewhere.

  44. touchback6
    Why was Hill dealt then? Why was Mathieu ditched along with Sorensen, your TWO starting Safeties?

    Why wasn’t Brown offered a deal before being acquired? Answer: Cap hell. They had to clear out space to even negotiate! Man, you people are clueless.

    15 million is nothing. You need 7 million for rookies alone. 15 million is why you’re in cap hell, because this contract isn;t done and you were just forced to deal Hill, while losing key starters for what your team has known in recent years
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    You really need some new material outside of cap hell and one year dynasty.
    Let me help you out:
    Hill – a deal was essentially in place until the Raiders backed up the Brinks truck for Adams. Also, Hill wanted to be in Miami where he just built a new house and be close to family . Lastly, the Chiefs did not want to set the WR for a soon to be 30 speedster. Hill is a game changer, but the WR room is improved from top to bottom.

    Brown – didn’t sign to a long-term since they were offering a ton to Hill. Also, COVID cap – cap is going up next year. Brown waited until a few weeks ago to get a new agent who never negotiated an NFL contract before. Over evaluated his worth and good for Veach not resetting the LT market for a guy outside the top 5 LT’s in the league.

    Honey Badger/Sorenson- haha! Did you see the secondary last year? That was not $ – that was 2 aging players who lost a step .Used the picks from Hill to rebuild the secondary along with Justin Reid in FA.

    The “Patriot” way – not breaking the bank for aging players – you should be familiar with that.

    But, yeah – we are the clueless ones.

  45. touchback6…..do us all a huge favor and check the facts before spouting off. The Chiefs have over $14M+ in space for 2022 right now. That’s 18th in the NFL. Meanwhile, your beloved, now-an-afterthought Patriots, are 31st with $2.7M per OverTheCap.com

  46. Can’t start complaining when a guy uses the leverage you gave him. Teams use every bit of leverage they have against players when negotiating contracts. Nobody should be surprised or upset when players do the same. It’s a business.

  47. The offer looks fair enough but if Brown doesnt like like it he doesnt have to take it. IF he stays healthy he will make more doing this way. Hindsight’s 20/20 but clearly the Chiefs should have got a deal done when they traded for him instead of tagging him and assuming he would fall in line and take a team friendly deal when they were ready to do it.

  48. “If the Chiefs had a QB who played the position correctly — ie, snap, read, throw…”

    Ah, the “Johnny-Unitas-Style-Was-Good-Enough-For-My Grandpa-It’s-Good-Enough-For-Me” contingent makes their voice heard. There are about about two dozen NFL QB’s who play the position “correctly” sitting on their couch watching Mahomes play in January every year.

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