NFLPA files reply brief to NFL appeal of Deshaun Watson

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Another step toward the hearing of the NFL’s appeal of the six-game suspension given to Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson took place on Friday afternoon.

The NFL Players Association announced that it has filed a brief replying to the league’s appeal. Friday was the deadline for the NFLPA to file that brief.

The NFL is believed to be looking for an indefinite suspension of at least one year as well as a fine. The initial ruling by Sue L. Robinson did not include any monetary penalty for Watson.

Former New Jersey Attorney General Peter Harvey was selected to hear the appeal by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. Harvey has served on advisory committees for the league and consulted with the league on the Personal Conduct Policy that was used to suspend Watson.

The policy calls for an expedited decision on appeal, so Harvey’s ruling should come in the near future and provide the Browns with clarity about when they might have their big acquisition of the year in the lineup.

39 responses to “NFLPA files reply brief to NFL appeal of Deshaun Watson

  1. It will be settled at 10 and 10. Ten Games and $10 million. Should happen by Monday morning the latest…

  2. When a union contract is negotiated, it is supposed to be bargained in ‘good faith’. In this case, it is inherently evident that the NFL had no desire to adhere to a neutral arbitration process in respect to player discipline. Whether or not the discipline imposed seems appropriate or not, an appeal to yourself on the 1st case is certainly inappropriate – SCREW the NFL. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A GROUP OF LIARS and CROOKS !!

  3. If it was up to the NFL Watson would be fired. Its this NFLPA that lets behavior such as this stay in the league.

    Why is nobody holding the NFLPA responsible??

  4. The guy that helped design the PCP gets to rule on it. Gee, doesn’t sound unbiased at all…

  5. whateverworks77 says:
    August 5, 2022 at 5:15 pm
    When a union contract is negotiated, it is supposed to be bargained in ‘good faith’. In this case, it is inherently evident that the NFL had no desire to adhere to a neutral arbitration process in respect to player discipline. Whether or not the discipline imposed seems appropriate or not, an appeal to yourself on the 1st case is certainly inappropriate – SCREW the NFL. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A GROUP OF LIARS and CROOKS !!

    Do you understand that this entire process was approved by the NFLPA in the collective bargaining agreement? All the legal eagles commenting on here about the lawsuits coming over this must not know this. No matter what a sham the process may be, the players agreed to be bound by it.

  6. where all the supposed “activists” who are terrorizing Supreme Court Justices when it comes to terrorizing a Union is defending a sexual miscreant?

  7. What a charade… in reading Judge Robinsons decision it’s clear that this guy needs banned from the league forever. The Browns should be ashamed of themselves for not cutting him immediately. Also a disgrace he’s not in prison. 24 women.

  8. pftpro says:
    August 5, 2022 at 5:12 pm
    It will be settled at 10 and 10. Ten Games and $10 million. Should happen by Monday morning the latest…
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    Wow, I admire your optimism (assuming you would like this outcome). I do not agree, however. I believe it will play out along the lines of the Brady and Zeke Elliott cases, long, drawn out and appealed to the federal court. Could they settle, sure at any point along that timeline but I’m not betting on it.

  9. There is a comment in this thread by whateverworks77 that feels so impassioned and accusatory towards the NFL… and I wanted to acknowledge it. Mainly because there is no mention of the commenter being a Cleveland Browns fan, or a fan of Deshaun Watson. Unless there is a financial component involved – such as a large wager based on Watson’s playing or Browns win, etc., it seems the commenter is responding directly to the perceived injustice of a legal agreement between the NFL and the NFLPA. Unless the commenter is an NFL athlete, I would love for the commenter to share more about why they feel the way they do. Because it’s a question for all of us. Why are we experiencing such powerful feelings… and directing them towards professional sports institutions? Why do these professional sports corporations such as the NFL or NBA, for example, affect us so much emotionally? I think it’s a legitimate question for our times.

  10. Colin Cowherd pointed out that many owners are pissed at Cleveland giving that fully guaranteed contract to someone deserving real punishment (Watson). Goodell is doing what many owners want him to do: stick it to Cleveland…

  11. mrbigass says:
    August 5, 2022 at 5:26 pm
    The guy that helped design the PCP gets to rule on it. Gee, doesn’t sound unbiased at all…
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    consider the alternative – it’s less biased than goodell

  12. CBA states owners will be held to a higher standard. They need to abide by the CBA.

  13. whateverworks77…

    Hypothetically, your daughter is a LICENSED Massage Therapist, while she is going to university for her Nursing Degree…

    Would you drive her to Watson’s hotel room & go sit in the lobby for an hour, while she treated him ???

  14. Would you want this guy (Watson) to be the face of your company? I don’t understand why the league didn’t use the 24 known cases and only four of them for all those arguing the league is against the dude. The judge said he was guilty and a liar. The AG in the Texas county must be beyond incompetent or corrupt to not indict twice.

  15. It will be settled at 10 and 10. Ten Games and $10 million. Should happen by Monday morning the latest…

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    I would be happy with that right now

  16. SCREW the NFL. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A GROUP OF LIARS and CROOKS !!
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    Yeah … screw the NFL … let that sexual predator play!! it is not fair.
    (That is sarcasm in case you didn’t figure that out)

  17. hard to think Emperor Rodger didnt have all this map out weeks if not months ago..

  18. toon2388 says:
    August 5, 2022 at 5:39 pm
    where all the supposed “activists” who are terrorizing Supreme Court Justices when it comes to terrorizing a Union is defending a sexual miscreant?

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    He is part of the most privileged class in America so he gets a free pass.

  19. I’m sorry when you are allegedly assaulted you go to your employer, you go to the authorities, you confront the individual there and then. You don’t go to a lawyer months and years later when the gravy train seems to be rolling in (or in fact wait until a lawyer contacts you).

  20. Watson is a predator and that habit never ends, good luck Cleveland when he gets busted with his new scheme preying on women

  21. kohila says:
    August 5, 2022 at 6:18 pm
    Would you want this guy (Watson) to be the face of your company? I don’t understand why the league didn’t use the 24 known cases and only four of them for all those arguing the league is against the dude. The judge said he was guilty and a liar. The AG in the Texas county must be beyond incompetent or corrupt to not indict twice

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    Because they knew a lot of the claims weren’t all genuine. One accuser who settled, based her claim on media reporting. Imagine how many others?

  22. Not going to lie this seems legit compared to the way the nfl first handled these types of cases… I’m sure they hate it!

  23. In case you didn’t realize, (former) Judge Sue, L. Robinson did not make her determination in a court of law. The new collectively bargained process, was for both sides to present their cases and supporting evidence and that is what she would use to determine her recommendation. Not ruling or decision, but recommendation. Then both sides, yes both sides had the right to appeal.

    If you don’t know her determination about Watson and why she made the recommendation she did, you haven’t been paying attention. But let’s try and make it easy for those complaining how unfair this all is. Let’s say she comes back with a recommendation of a year long suspension and a $10 million fine. Both the NFLPA and the NFL have the right to appeal. Chances are the NFL won’t, but Watson and the NFLPA might. What makes the situation impossible for the NFLPA, is that she found based, on the evidence presented, that Watson is a sexual predator, used his status as an NFL quarterback to secure massages, which he tried to turn into sexual encounters, etc. He also lied in his (under oath) testimony with her.

    That is why the NFLPA and the Browns were willing to accept a 6 game suspension. Both knew, they had no leg to stand on and their only hope was for the NFL not exercise their right of appeal.

  24. 50Stars says:
    August 5, 2022 at 5:23 pm
    If it was up to the NFL Watson would be fired. Its this NFLPA that lets behavior such as this stay in the league.

    Why is nobody holding the NFLPA responsible??
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    Why did nobody explain to you what a union’s contractual responsibility was before you posted?

  25. donbat67 says:
    August 5, 2022 at 6:40 pm
    Watson needs win 10 Superbowls to justify all this drama .
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    Justify it to who?
    Interesting that you think winning some Superbowls would balance this out somehow.

  26. Iv been in a few unions myself. A union rep once. The truth about unions is 95% of their purpose is to defend the bad apples of the company. It’s not labor negotiations. It’s not getting better wages or better working conditions. It’s mostly keeping workers, union members, from being fired.

  27. The only bump in the road for the NFL getting a year-long suspension is the “Owners held to a higher standard” clause. They will probably ignore that and do whatever they want.

  28. Michael Vick is like damn, all I had to do was non violently let the dogs fight and all would have been good.

  29. If it was up to the NFL Watson would be fired. Its this NFLPA that lets behavior such as this stay in the league. Why is nobody holding the NFLPA responsible??

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    Maybe you’re a little confused on what the acronym stands for. Hold them responsible for what? Advocating for the player??

  30. theoriginalsurferbob says:
    August 5, 2022 at 7:34 pm
    Iv been in a few unions myself. A union rep once. The truth about unions is 95% of their purpose is to defend the bad apples of the company. It’s not labor negotiations. It’s not getting better wages or better working conditions. It’s mostly keeping workers, union members, from being fired.

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    sad but true. Which is why they are outdated and especially not needed for pro athletes earning millions. They do not closely resembled the people 100 years ago earning pennies that actually needed a Union.

  31. The NFL was obviously motivated to appeal Sue L Robinson’s decision by the amount of public outcry. That’s okay by me,as long as Watson gets what he deserves, which is at least a year and having to apply for reinstatement,plus a hefty fine. The league is doing the right thing,regardless of the reasons.

  32. I agree with the top poster suggesting 10 and 10. 10 games and $10 million seems like a pretty reasonable number all things considered. Let’s not forget, the reason the NFL is appealing isn’t because they care about how many games he is suspended. They care about how it LOOKS to the public. By appealing and utilizing someone other than Roger, they can come back and say they did everything in their power to punish Watson as much as possible while still remaining as neutral and fair as possible under the CBA. Had Roger led the appeal and said 1 Full Season, the players and the union would squawk that it was a kangaroo-court. Had the NFL not appealed the public would say the NFL didn’t care about women. This appeal is for appearance and nothing more.

  33. I have been in management of a unionized co.oany for 25 years. I have now been a union member at a different company for three years. Unions definitely still have there place in today’s society. Like when uooer management decided to make us pay for part of our healthcare premiums. The contract kept them from doing the same to the union members. Or when the company merged two facilities. All the managers of one facility were laid off. All the union members got to keep their jobs. Do yes, unions have to fight for the bad eggs, but they do far more than just that.

  34. Where is the input from all the quality players that represent their teams, not a word from them on union standing up against the actions of Watson toward so many women. They are supposed to be the best yet secretly they are saying it is fine for the union to sue for this character that is a big black eye to the NFL

  35. The NFLPA AGREED to the personal conduct policy. They agreed to allow Goodell to have the last say if he wanted. Why are they acting so surprised that Goodell is using the power that they, the NFLPA, gave to him?

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