Lamar Jackson chimes in on contract negotiations with Ravens

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As the Ravens and quarterback Lamar Jackson close in on his Week One deadline for doing a long-term deal, Jackson has peeled back the curtain, a bit, on social media.

Responding to Twitter users who made comments about his status, Jackson dropped a few hints about what he may be looking for. And he seems to be looking for a Deshaun Watson-style fully-guaranteed deal.

After one user said the Ravens should give Jackson $250 million guaranteed and another responded by saying that “they already offered that” and Jackson wants more, Jackson said this: “No they didn’t.”

Then, after another user said, “As much as I love Lamar, a fully guaranteed deal would be bad business,” Jackson replied, “You don’t love Lamar.”

Clearly, the Ravens haven’t offered $250 million fully guaranteed to Jackson. The Browns gave $230 million to Watson, and that was enough to get Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti to publicly grouse about the development.

Although Jackson didn’t come out and say it, his two tweets strongly imply that, to Bisciotti’s dismay, Jackson wants a fully-guaranteed contract.

Frankly, he should. Although contracts for franchise quarterbacks rarely are ripped up prematurely, Jackson plays the position in a more dangerous way than other quarterbacks. The physical risk for him is real. Without guarantees, he’s at risk of being released.

And while the Ravens can try to dismiss the Watson deal as an aberration, it also can be called a new high-water mark. Which is what groundbreaking contracts typically are. The people pulling the purse strings always want to disregard a market-changing contract as an accident, not a trend. Because of course they do. And the Ravens may be inclined to hold firm with Jackson because the Cardinals successfully did it with Kyler Murray.

Lamar has every right to push for a fully-guaranteed deal, if he’s willing to assume the risk of walking away from whatever the Ravens are willing to do and play for $23 million this year with no guarantees for 2023 and beyond. And if he’s willing to do that, there will be no new contract this year, or possibly ever, in Baltimore.

Eventually, that contract could come from another team. In response to a comment thatLamar, who grew up in South Florida, possibly wants to play for the Dolphins the same way a Baltimore native would want to play for the Ravens, Jackson said, “I grew up a Dallas fan but Dolphins were second no doubt.”

He could have said something like, “I’m a Raven for life.” He didn’t. And all that that possibly implies.

82 responses to “Lamar Jackson chimes in on contract negotiations with Ravens

  1. That’s a lot for a running back. But Jerry Jones might be all for it Make his Zeke deal look way better.

  2. Lamar Jackson will never get a fully guaranteed contract from the Ravens. Book it.

  3. They’re nuts if they give him a contract guaranteed for big bucks. As he ages and the young bucks can match or exceed his speed, he’s going to have to be a consistent passer. Don’t see it.

  4. They should’ve already shipped him out to the highest bidder. They have a backup that is probably just as good.

  5. You set your franchise back a decade resigning him. Give the ball to Huntley, not this running back.

  6. Lame is an average running back and a subpar QB. He should be paid as such. How about $2 million per year with an injury rider that cuts out any bonuses if he is hurt while running.

  7. While Lamar should definitely ask for a full guarantee, the Ravens should definitely decline. Both sides will be making business decisions but most of the risk is on L.J. as only the most desperate, downtrodden teams are likely to jump off that guaranteed contract cliff. Especially if Watson underwhelms in Cleveland.

  8. The browns are a poorly run organization, the ravens aren’t. Jackson won’t see a fully guaranteed contract.

  9. You just don’t guarantee a running back big bucks. Let him play out the year, tag him if he’s not too banged up. Let him go the year after…. unless he actually wins a few playoff games… hahahahaha. What was I thinking?

  10. This is very likely Lamar’s last season with the Ravens, by design by the team. He’s a restricted free agent after this season. If another team signs him, the Raven’s won’t match (on purpose), collecting two first round draft picks (Apr’23 and the following year). They’ll then use whatever draft picks necessary to move up and get one of the highly regarded QBs coming out next April. I luv Lamar, but he can’t throw, with accuracy, in the red zone, and that is a MUST if you want to win titles (and consistently compete for them). As soon as Lamar’s legs aren’t what they were he’s done, running QBs are fine but there’s a reason we don’t see them lasting into their early never mind late 30’s. No chance a team as smart as the Raven’s are going to tie and anchor to their legs and jump into the Chesapeake Bay with Lamar. If someone doesn’t offer him a contract, the Ravens will franchise him and wait things out. They won’t (smartly, as much as I luv the guy) be signing him to a long-term deal. Never mind, you should rightfully wonder about the leadership abilities of a guy who’s agent is his mother. Luv my mother too, but she’s not negotiating my contract for me. I hire a pro to do that.

  11. Weird situation, in college he was the predicted #1 pick, than after another year of college he got drafted where he was by the Ravens. He excels at running, and throwing at TE because he can get it in there radius with a good amount of throw power. But dude can’t throw to receivers at all, not accurate at all. The Raven’s are in a tough spot, because he runs so much he could get hurt bad on every play. And at the same time he can’t throw well. But hes a superstar. Hard situation.

  12. After one user said the Ravens should give Jackson $250 million guaranteed and another responded by saying that “they already offered that” and Jackson wants more, Jackson said this: “No they didn’t.”
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    A good agent would tell him to not discuss the contract on social media.

  13. He gets traded to Miami during the next off-season for two #1s and a #4. Win-win. Go Huntley!

  14. Referring to himself in 3rd person – not a good sign. Definitely a case of AB-ego disease. No known cure.

  15. This is a contract year. Ravens are patient to wait it out. Just because the Haslams were dumb enough to give Watson that contract doesn’t mean “naturally” everyone else gets one too. Ravens will have Jackson play out his contract, then either tag him or trade him. An exemplary post-season might bring home a contract, but it still won’t be fully guaranteed. The owners as one animal (minus Haslam) will see to that across the league.

  16. Herbert, Murray, Watson, Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, are all guys who should be able to play 5+ more years and are better than Jackson. Rogers, Stafford, Wilson, and maybe Brady are better than Jackson this year, and Fields, Lance, maybe Mac Jones have a real chance at being better than Jackson soon. Jackson should definitely get paid, but you would probably screw up your franchise if you gave him what he is asking for.

  17. I would trade him to Houston for 3 first round picks and use Anthony Brown and Huntley and go after some top defense players

  18. I wonder what a Quarterback who has actually won something is going to want. Deshaun Watson and Lamar Jackson have ZERO Super Bowl appearances between them, limited postseason success, and a ridiculously high opinion of themselves.

  19. If Jackson keeps this up, Twitter will be within their rights to ask for a percentage of his new deal.
    He certainly would be the first athlete to negotiate his contract on Twitter.

  20. Classic case of overplaying your hand. Lamar is a fool if he thinks he’s getting Watson’s contract or better.

  21. Another diva. He hasn’t proved himself, hasn’t earned it. Hasn’t even sniffed a Conf title.

  22. Now wouldn’t that be something if the Ravens cut him tomorrow, to send a message this organization will not be held hostage.

  23. Introducing the 2023 starting QB for the Cleveland Browns! This stuff just writes itself!

  24. This guy’s production has decreased every year…they’d be crazy to do a big, fully guaranteed deal. The rest of the league can’t let that insane Cleveland deal set the bar…it would cause chaos…

  25. Garapolo understood his worth, Lamar does not. He’s gonna wish he took what he could a couple years from now.

  26. Interesting scenario developing here. If they don’t sign him this by Friday he misses week 1. If Huntley plays and does well they just may see how far Lamar wants to push this. If he holds out two or three weeks they will move him. I see him going to Seattle. Problem with any trade is if the guaranteed contract is something owner decide is just too crazy for them and collude to keep it from happening.

  27. Man, I bet Bisciotti and the other owners are cursing the Haslams. Every upcoming QB contract renewal is going to pry more and more money out of their greedy little hands. Must drive them nuts.

  28. If I was the Ravens there is no way I would give him a fully guaranteed contract. Robert Griffin III should be on everyone’s mind in regards to that. Exciting player who relied a lot on his feet got hurt and was never the same again and is out of the league now.

  29. What a joke. The Browns couldn’t just ruin their own franchise. They had to set a ridiculously high bar for every clown in the league moving forward with contract negotiations.

    This is the start of the end of the NFL.

  30. He should ask for it. And the Ravens would be nuts to give it to him. They can lose in the first round just as well without him.

  31. It’s hard for regular people to imagine the the sort of malignant narcissism that demands being paid not just $46.1 million per year but $46.2 million because he simply MUST be known as the highest paid player, ever, even if only for a week or a month. The kind of person who considers being made merely one of the 5 highest paid athletes, in any sport to be a disrespectful and unforgivable insult by his team.

    We may not understand it, but we can see it.

  32. With a few exceptions, running backs are a dime a dozen. Lamar is not an exception.

  33. allthingshudson says:
    August 29, 2022 at 8:40 pm

    Lamar Jackson will never get a fully guaranteed contract from the Ravens. Book it.
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    Of course, the Ravens don’t want to, DeCosta already expressed his pain right after the Watson deal. The Browns severely reset the market, so if not from the Ravens, there will be takers. Fully guaranteed will soon be the norm for top echelon QBs. Book it.

  34. As a fan of another team I hope they give him that contract. But honestly the delta between him and Huntley is not worth that considering how much that counts toward the cap and the additional players that would be lost paying Lamar that much. Huntley + $45M. > just Lamar. And it’s not even close.

  35. Jimmy Haslam turned out to be Lamar’s best unofficial agent and Lamar won’t have to give him a cut of his contract.

  36. I find it amazing what todays athlete complains about as far as what is “disrespectful” or “unnacceptable”. They really need to go out and work a regular 40 hour a week job, building something that actually impacts the country, and see how the average American toils in every day lack of respect.

  37. Giving him a long term guarantee would be risky. So what if the cards and browns are foolish. Long term for Jackson a runner like Murray is not wise.

  38. As a Pats fan, I’m loving this. Baltimore (historical Pats rival) is in a no-win position: They can either pay LJ an insane amount of money and sink the franchise as result (I won’t say he’s a RB like other commenters but he’s not winning a SB; I don’t care about his MVP votes) OR they can let him walk and restart the search for a viable QB1.

    Honestly, if they can trade him – that’s a win. Some team will give up multiple 1s for him and QB’s are objectively getting easier to scout/draft with the rule changes that favor the passing game.

    There is no chance Baltimore trades LJ so I’m hoping they mortgage the future now or he bets on himself and plays well enough to cripple the franchise even more.

    Ultimately, though I just hope that whichever team LJ wins his ransom, they’re also a Pats rival.

  39. Lol look at every football “genius” in the comments thinking that the Ravens wudn’t and shudn’t give Lamar the Deshaun contract. Trust me there are a lot of teams that would give Lamar that contract right now and Lamar duznt have the option of playing until he is 45 so he needs to make as much as he can in his first 3 contracts and this is his second and only real chance to sign a big deal because if he makes it to his third deal without any falloff he is still going to be 30 years old and his making it to 35 without his running ability falling off pretty hard sounds impossible so this third contract will prolly have a bunch of outs for the team even if it is market value. He cud be good enough as a passer to change his game to be more of a pocket passer by then but all the hits he is taking now will affect him eventually, but for now Lamar(who is way better than Huntley even tho I like Huntley) is one of the top 8 qb’s in the league and not even all of them can make an offense better without great players around them like Lamar and I’m not a Kyler believer so in my mind comparing the two makes no sense

  40. Saying “that’s a lot for a running back” is like wearing a big sign around your neck that says “Idiot”.

  41. “…the Ravens may be inclined to hold firm with Jackson because the Cardinals successfully did it with Kyler Murray.”

    Lamar should be offered more than Murray simply based upon the fact that he is in the final year of his rookie deal.

    Play out the contract. Get franchised. Get franchised a second time. Then walk to free agency.

  42. Jimmy Haslam vindictiveness set owners back big time. There is no getting around the fact that the $ and guarantees are way out of line with what the market was. Qb’s can now say “well if Watson got it”. The Browns didn’t do the NFL owners any favors. Most of the people I talk to are still rooting for Baker Mayfield.

  43. All the fans calling for Huntley, let’s revisit that outcome in two years. Jackson can ball, I think people forget this a little too quickly.

  44. Ravens in a tough spot. While they have a guy who clearly is a top 10 QB, the ceiling of the guy definitely falls short of the Super Bowl. He simply doesn’t have the passing ability to bring a team back from deficits. Although Watson is clearly a creep, he at least has a better arm & arsenal, than Jackson.

  45. He plays this year under his existing deal and gets franchised next season. No way the Ravens are guaranteeing his contract. They’ve already offered him more than Murray which is more than than enough. There is looking out for yourself and then there is greed that sets the entire team back.

  46. As far as the “Fully Guaranteed Contract” just because the Browns were desperate and foolish doesn’t mean other teams are going to follow suit. When I was a kid and my argument was that all the other kids were doing something, why can’t I ? My Mom would say, If all the other kids were jumping over Niagara Falls, would you do it ? (This may have been a geographical thing because of our proximity to the Falls but I’m sure other Moms had similar logic, Empire State Building, Sears Tower etc ) Why does Lamar Jackson have to be the highest paid QB ? I don’t think anyone would rate him as the best young QB. His contract should place his salary below QBs like Mahommes and Allen.

  47. I’ve long said that all contracts should be guaranteed in football or at least a much more significant portion than is now.

    But, they’re not except for one anomaly. and as long as they are not, there is no way I’m handing one to Jackson.

  48. Regardless of what Lamar gets, I’d love it if someone can direct me to any evidence that proves mobile QBs are at more risk of injury than the prototypical pocket QB. FYI, his injury last year was in the pocket.

  49. There is a reason he doesnt get a contract like the Browns one. The RAvens arent that dumb to do that. Hes a running back not a qb.

  50. Love Lamar, but with his playing style any team would be crazy to guarantee him even one cent.

  51. Funny how you guys instantly think you can be an NFL GM with all this prove it stuff, which makes absolutely no sense. So, every NFL QB has to have a great playoff record to be paid? Where does that happen? Stafford was 0-3 in 13 years, got 40 a million year from the Rams and Lamar will still be in the league after Stafford is gone. That’s 2 of your ridiculous arguments shot down right there. Poor playoffs just like 55 mil Cousins and Stafford does have not much time left in the NFL. Lamar would sign no more than 5 years anyway, so what’s all this talk about longevity? After 5 years, you come to the table again, duh. Lamar is more accomplished than Watson, Murray and many others, so he will get his money as he brings A LOT to the table. Prove it? They used to give QBs 50 mil coming out of college. What did they prove?

  52. The social media aspect of this will sour Lamar to many fans. Especially while he isn’t using a professional to negotiate. I wouldn’t guarantee more than 3 years. The team will make money off of him no matter what happens but, paying top dollar to an unhealthy or declined player means they won’t win.

  53. grant35 says:
    August 30, 2022 at 5:48 am

    Ravens in a tough spot. While they have a guy who clearly is a top 10 QB, the ceiling of the guy definitely falls short of the Super Bowl. He simply doesn’t have the passing ability to bring a team back from deficits. Although Watson is clearly a creep, he at least has a better arm & arsenal, than Jackson.
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    Huh? He led the league in 4th quarter comebacks last year at the time of injury. Why do people just make up stuff and predict silly things why it comes to this guy? One injury in 4 years and you’d think he’d a multitude of injuries they way people talk. Allen had almost 800 yards rushing last year, not one person mentioned him being injured. This stuff makes no sense.

  54. The other thing is this; Lamar Jackson wants to be THE GUY that tested Free Agency and wins big. He likes the $$$, he likes the fame, and he will do this. Watch.

  55. Let me ask this question, with Jackson’s style of play and injury history why would the Ravens fully guarantee his deal? Jackson needs to face reality, he will never get a fully guaranteed deal. Jackson has some options. One is signing a deal that gets him the most guaranteed money the Ravens are willing to pay. Another choice is take all the risk for this year playing on his fifth year option for $23M which is obviously a good amount but substantially less then the guaranteed amount he would get from signing a new deal. Considering his recent history of injury and inconsistent play this falls into high risk territory. Thinking it’s time to put his ego aside and if the Ravens offer is in the same range as other recent QB deals with similar guaranteed money he needs to sign it. Watson signed for $230M guaranteed and Murray signed for $160M guaranteed. If the Ravens offer is similar to or slightly exceeding Murray’s then he’s risking at least $140M but probably more in guaranteed money by playing without a contract extension. Not a smart play by Jackson putting ego in front of smart decision making.

  56. And Jimmy g is thrown out with the garbage, what is the nfl world coming to. A predator and mid level qb wi5h 1 playoff game gets 230M guaranteed and an in accurate, not very good at reading d’s qb who runs better then he throws wants 250M guaranteed? Crazy I say just crazy, he’ll wr’s don’t even want to play with him cause he has trouble getting them the ball. What is there offense going to be like the old Tecmo Bowl where you ran Bo Jackson sweep left/ right and it couldn’t be stopped, qb keeper sweep left next play qb keeper sweep right. What a joke

  57. Do y’all remember that kid that would flip the board game upside down and ruin it for everybody else because they weren’t winning? That kid is the Cleveland Browns. They just ruined it for everybody else trying to sign their Quarterback. If you can’t win, just screw it up for everybody.

  58. guitarkevin says:
    August 30, 2022 at 8:27 am
    Regardless of what Lamar gets, I’d love it if someone can direct me to any evidence that proves mobile QBs are at more risk of injury than the prototypical pocket QB. FYI, his injury last year was in the pocket

    getting tackled more simply opens you up to more injury chances, and certainly shortens a career.

    I think the biggest concern w running qbs is long term durability. When you factor in his physical running style, I think it’s a legitimate concern.

    I think a pretty good example is Cam Newton. Similar size and body type to Lamar, Similar running style, similar playing style. CN was one of the best players in the league, and suddenly the bottom dropped out FAST. The Wear and tear caught up, and it caught up hard

    That is my concern- he is going to have a short shelf life , and it’s not going to be a gradual drop.

  59. chue says:
    August 30, 2022 at 9:56 am
    Do y’all remember that kid that would flip the board game upside down and ruin it for everybody else because they weren’t winning? That kid is the Cleveland Browns. They just ruined it for everybody else trying to sign their Quarterback. If you can’t win, just screw it up for everybody.

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    Ironically, the Ozzie Newsome decision to wait to pay Flacco spiked the market 10 years ago. To this very day, it’s the main reason why Newsome lost his job, sent the team into a cap hell to miss the playoffs 3 years in a row, and they’ve been a fake good team ever since.

  60. Offer him 1 year, fully guaranteed, for 38 Million (more than he deserves for a QBR of 50.7 for 2021 and 67.3 for 2020). He’s been trending in the wrong direction since 2019. Also, he has never started every game in any season since joining the NFL. As the saying goes, the best ability is availability.

  61. Tag him next year with the nonexclusive. Either he won’t get the offer he wants and he stays or they get he picks. Lamar is 100% not a top 10 QB even with his running ability. He just isn’t. Any team that does not draft a new QB every year or so and be ready when their guy hits the 2nd tag is going to go down the tubes in the future. Need to put a stop to these contracts now. Spend the money building a great team around a good to better QB and changing him out every 5 to 6 years.

  62. Why would Baltimore ever guarantee all that money? They can play him this year, Franchise him next year, and the year after. Get 3 more years. Don’t break the bank. Baltimore is a factor of 10 smarter than Cleveland ever will be.

  63. Stop blaming Cleveland and the haslams. If the browns didn’t pay the money, another team would have. Not to mention the owners have more money than they know what to do with. If you don’t want to pay someone, then don’t. But don’t blame someone else, because you don’t want to pony up the money.

  64. All contracts should be guaranteed and evenly divided over the years. Stop the cap gymnastics teams are doing. If Watson is worth 230 then Lamar is easily worth 250.

  65. After this season, the Ravens are happy to pay/use him for 2 more years under the franchise tag (with no long-term cap risk) and then either sign him to what he wants or get significant first round compensation for him. Ravens hold all the cards here.

  66. Haha, Lamar is an idiot, yet he is doing exactly what an agent would do, wanting for a bigger money offer.

  67. One of the things that the Ravens seem to do well is patience. Same head coach for 15 years. Quiet, unobtrusive owner. Lamar can create all the hubbub he wants, but Father Tims is on the Ravens’ side. As another poster pointed out, Cam Newton is the modern day model and when the bottom dropped for Cam, it dropped FAST. The only two running QBs in the history of the league that were hugely successful were Staubach and Tarkenton (Randall Cunningham only won one playoff game in his career), and both Staubach and Tarkenton had great arms from what today would be considered undersized QBs. Ravens will simply let Lamar play out the year, franchise him once if he is healthy, and see what happens.

  68. Stop blaming Cleveland and the haslams. If the browns didn’t pay the money, another team would have.

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    This is not true. Watson is only in Cleveland because Cleveland was willing to pay him money that no one else would. Watson did not want to play for Cleveland. He was about to go to Atlanta.

  69. I kinda get it if you think that the Ravens should give Lamar a ton of money (he certainly shouldn’t be given a fully-guaranteed deal), but anyone who thinks that Huntley is a better option or anywhere near as good as Lamar doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Huntley is a backup QB.

    I have no idea why people always fall in love with players after a few good games. Anyone remember Matt Cassel? Or Matt Flynn?

  70. Watson didn’t deserve that kind of money, no way no how! The Browns will regret it if they haven’t already. Jackson is one hit away from his season ending. He runs to much because he can’t throw a good ball consistency and can’t read a defense. Jackson doesn’t deserve that kind of money guaranteed.

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