Josh Allen outduels Patrick Mahomes as Bills top Chiefs

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In the latest installment of the great Bills-Chiefs rivalry, it was Josh Allen who came out on top, and Patrick Mahomes who sealed his team’s fate with a surprising interception.

Allen engineered an incredible drive that culminated in a 14-yard touchdown pass to Dawson Knox with 1:04 remaining. That gave the Bills the 24-20 winning score, but the game wasn’t over just yet.

Mahomes and the Chiefs’ offense still had a chance to drive down the field and score, and the Bills know all too well that Mahomes is more than capable of doing that. Instead, Mahomes threw into coverage and Taron Johnson made a leaping interception to seal the win for the Bills.

Allen completed 27 of 40 passes for 329 yards, with three touchdowns, no interceptions, one sack and 32 rushing yards. His favorite receiver was Stefon Diggs, who had 10 catches for 148 yards and a touchdown.

Mahomes was not as good, completing 25 of 40 passes for 338 yards with two touchdowns, two interceptions, three sacks and 21 rushing yards. JuJu Smith-Schuster had his biggest game as a Chief, with five catches for 113 yards and a touchdown.

The Bills are now 5-1 and the overwhelming favorite to earn home-field advantage throughout the AFC playoffs. The Chiefs fall to 4-2, and while they’re still the favorites to win the AFC West, a playoff rematch between the two teams will likely be in Buffalo.

87 responses to “Josh Allen outduels Patrick Mahomes as Bills top Chiefs

  1. Vin Miller was a brilliant acquisition. Didn’t our resident expert tell us he was washed up?

  2. nhpats2011 says:
    October 16, 2022 at 7:36 pm
    Vin Miller was a brilliant acquisition. Didn’t our resident expert tell us he was washed up?

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    By “resident expert” I’m sure you mean “the useless troll that should have been banned many months ago”.

    By the way, good game by Buffalo.

  3. silentphart says:
    October 16, 2022 at 7:39 pm
    nhpats2011 says:
    October 16, 2022 at 7:36 pm
    Vin Miller was a brilliant acquisition. Didn’t our resident expert tell us he was washed up?

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    By “resident expert” I’m sure you mean “the useless troll that should have been banned many months ago”.

    By the way, good game by Buffalo

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    I’m talking about the guy who lost a bet and refused to leave per the terms of the bet.

    That was a great game to watch!

  4. Josh Allen is undoubtably the NFL MVP now. That game winning drive says it all. 5-1.. BY week to get healthy, this could be the year all Bills fans have been waiting their entire lives for. ey ey ey ey, LET’s GO BUFFALO!

  5. silentphart says:
    October 16, 2022 at 7:39 pm
    nhpats2011 says:
    October 16, 2022 at 7:36 pm
    Vin Miller was a brilliant acquisition. Didn’t our resident expert tell us he was washed up?

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    By “resident expert” I’m sure you mean “the useless troll that should have been banned many months ago”.

    By the way, good game by Buffalo.

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    Should’ve kept his word and left long time ago

  6. As a fan of the NFL, the league is better when you can argue who’s the better of. Glad to be apart of this argument for the 10+ years between Mahomes/Allen. I enjoy watching both of them play. Great game, nice win for the Bills

  7. This is a PSA for those in Chiefs kingdom who refuse to show Josh Allen any respect because if he’s not better than Mahomes he has to be terrible. No fan base in the league has shown more disrespect to Allen than Chiefs nation and even more than the rest of the AFC East combined.

    2017, Mahomes gets drafted as a luxury pick by a great team that is loaded with talent on offense with an all-time offensive genius at HC. His rookie year he sits and learns behind a pro bowl Alex Smith. With Alex Smith at the helm Kelce, Hill and Hunt are already pro bowl talents and KC has a top 12 O-Line.

    2018, his rookie season roster.
    HC: Andy Reid, Top 5 Offensive GOAT
    RB: Kareem Hunt, PB
    WR1: Tyreek Hill, PB
    WR2: Sammy Watkins, former top 5 pick
    WR3: Chris Conley
    TE: Travis Kelce, PB
    LT: Eric Fisher, PB
    LG: Cameron Erving
    C: Mitch Morse, very good
    RG: Andrew Wylie
    RT: Mitchell Schwartz, AP

    Has any QB in NFL history come into a better situation on offense than Mahomes?

    Sitting a full year behind a ridiculously good offense, a top 5 All-Time TE in his prime, pro bowlers at every position and the 2nd best RT-LT duo in the league? The only flaw would be less than elite guards.

    How many 1st round QBs that busted because they went to awful franchises with dysfunction everywhere, no offensive line and bad weapons, thrown in their first game?

    I would argue many of them could have ended up with long pro bowl careers had they gotten what Mahomes got.

    In no way am I discrediting Mahomes as a ridiculous freak all-world talent but Chiefs fans seem to have lost all perspective on his development versus most everyone else’s.

    Josh Allen was a project that couldn’t be started his first year; “it would ruin him” because he had bad mechanics and decision making from being at Juco and Wyoming with no talent and less than average coaching.

    He was thrust into starting immediately due to injuries. His rookie year McBeane were carrying $50 Million in deadcap from clearing bad contracts from the previous regime. $50 million in salary cap less of talent around him.

    2018 Bills Roster:

    RB: Lesean McCoy, 500 yards and past his prime.
    FB: Patrick DiMarco, because we had no O-line and needed an extra blocker every play
    WR: Kelvin Benjamin, 315lbs and stone hands.
    WR: Zay Jones
    TE: Charles Clay, 184 yards and stealing a check.
    LT: Dion Dawkins- Rookie and was okay.
    LG: Vlad Ducasse, turnstile
    C: Russell Bodine, turnstile
    RG: Jordan Miller, turnstile
    RT: Jordan Mills, turnstile

    Just look at the difference; zero weapons, one of the worst O-lines in the league and not a single pro bowler to be seen.
    Josh had to run for his life the second the ball was snapped.

    You swap their draft situations and no way is Mahomes coming out of the gate like he did if he was in Josh’s situation; you better believe Josh would have been absolutely berserk on the Kansas City offense in Mahomes’s shoes.

    Every year passes and Bills fans have to deal with everyone comparing their QBs stats to Josh Allen’s first year and saying how much better their QB was and is going to be.

    No, none of you were watching Bills games in 2018 after 17 years of sucking. Allen was scrambling for dear life, no one could get separation, no one could catch the ball and every pass rush was getting through the line at the snap.

    We are talking 5-6 drops every game and zero clean pockets.

    In Summation, Chiefs nation need to chill out and acknowledge how ridiculously blessed Mahomes was to be drafted into the situation he was. Mahomes might eventually be the player he is today had he gone elsewhere or maybe he might have been ruined. I can think of a list of quarterbacks who busted solely due to the team that drafted them.

    People compare Mahomes and Allen all the time now, what’s the biggest different between the two? Having All-world Travis Kelce at TE.

    Chiefs fans say Kelce is the best pass catching TE in NFL history.

    Then when you bring up how good Mahomes is because of Kelce and all of a sudden Kelce goes from being “the best pass catching TE in NFL history” to “he’s only good because Mahomes is the GOAT”.

    Chiefs nation has become unbearable nation.

  8. Yeah Von MilLer gives the Bills pass rush the edge now in the AFC. These two teams clearly the best in the conference, and Mahomes & Allen clear frontrunners for MVP. Lamar Jackson had yet another brutal fumble – reverting to his multiple turnover ways as the Ravens coughed up yet another 4th quarter lead.

  9. Shame these guys can’t meet in the SB. So what happened to the bills can’t win close games crowd. Every time the haters make up new line, Allen keeps proving them wrong. How many times do you have to be wrong before you admit you’re wrong?

  10. Bills fans waited through 20 years of terrible football for this. Screw the refs, screw the Kingdom & their chant, screw Pat Mahomes. The best player in the world is on our team. Thank God for Josh Allen

  11. Guess what teams are currently looking up at the Jets.
    Fans of those teams should probably be low profile in the comments. Or at least show a bit of humility.

  12. Chiefs fan here, but got to hand it to the Bills. Will be a tough out this year. Solid in all aspects. Hopefully my Chiefs will get their secondary healthy and have a chance to play ya in January. No doubt it will be fun, regardless where it is played. But looking like in Buffalo. Good luck rest of season.

  13. Exciting game. Buffalo basically had to win it twice after the ref 2 feet from the play somehow missed the obvious tripping call that would have kept that drive alive.

  14. Tough loss. Not many clean pockets for Mahomes; got to get that cleaned up. KC defense getting some guys back on D soon. They’ll be ok. Buffalo obviously best team in the league right now.

  15. Allen/Mahomes is now officially this generation’s Manning/Brady. Good for the game

  16. 6burgh says:
    October 16, 2022 at 7:43 pm
    As a fan of the NFL, the league is better when you can argue who’s the better of. Glad to be apart of this argument for the 10+ years between Mahomes/Allen. I enjoy watching both of them play. Great game, nice win for the Bills

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    Very well said. Watching Mahomes and Allen battle each other is definitely something football fans enjoy to see. Both QBs are extremely talented and fun to watch.

  17. Chiefs are still the better team and will dispose of Buffalo in the post season, we all know it’s coming!

  18. Dude above wrote a dang book that coulda just been summarized with “I’m not gonna disrespect Mahomes but let me write a novel about how anyone coulda done what he’s done”

  19. “Chiefs nation has become unbearable nation”
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    Whew! That’s one of the most passionate rants I’ve ever seen.

  20. Another week of TAKE THE POINTS YOU HAVE!!

    I’m all about trying to extend the play, but Mahomes’ first half end zone INT, changed the outcome. If they had just taken the points, you have a minute with 2 time outs to go 40….not 75 yards.

    Stuff happens, but come on

  21. Great game between two great teams. It’s unfortunate that this game, like almost every game this season, was marred once again by poor officiating. The uncalled trip by Chris Jones was undoubtedly the marquee missed or phantom call of this game, but there were several others that the officials botched.

    It’s bad now that in every game each team not only has to overcome their opponent, but also has to overcome shoddy and downright dangerous officiating.

  22. Regarding the “This is a PSA…’ from 60ftlesbianoctopus: There honestly may be Books of the Bible’ that used up less space. I want those 20 minutes of my life, back.

  23. Bills pulled it off by making Mahomes look dumb twice. Von Miller should get just as much credit as Josh Allen.

  24. navyvandal says:
    October 16, 2022 at 7:57 pm
    Another week of TAKE THE POINTS YOU HAVE!!

    I’m all about trying to extend the play, but Mahomes’ first half end zone INT, changed the outcome. If they had just taken the points, you have a minute with 2 time outs to go 40….not 75 yards.

    Stuff happens, but come on

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    Did you miss all the points Buffalo left on the board?

  25. doctorrumack says:
    October 16, 2022 at 8:06 pm
    Great game,great teams, Bengals will beat either one when they have to. #peaktooearly

    Apparently the Bengals peaked too early last season too, when they embarrassed the AFC in the Super Bowl. KC or Buffalo would not have lost to that Rams team, but Bengals gifted them the Lombardi Trophy.

  26. That was a classic game. It’s exciting to be a fan of a team that’s in one of these back & forth rivalries.

    KC still has the upper hand, because they’ve shown they can do it in the playoffs. But the Bills got a big advantage today – it will be tougher for KC to get homefield now.

    I feel like these teams are destined to meet again this season. I’ll celebrate today, but it’s onto the next as of tomorrow.

  27. Both of these teams already lost to incredibly bad teams. Wouldn’t write either one in to the Super Bowl yet!

  28. That last pick Mahomes threw was about as ugly as anything, very uncharacteristic of him. I doubt you’ll see that same mistake twice from him in a game like today. Credit to the Chiefs defense, holding the Bills off for as long as they did.

    This is the new Brady/Manning and I can’t wait for January. Great game Bills mafia!

  29. Great battle, so many incredible plays from both teams. Too much involvement from the refs. Looking forward to the rematch in the playoffs.

  30. Ummmm , this was a regular season game Bills Mafia. Chiefs lost to Bills in regular season last yr and everyone knows what happened in the playoffs. Get your ring Buffalo and then talk

  31. Mahomes 2nd late game losing INT this season notwithstanding, Spagnolo continues to strand his DB’s one-on-one inexplicably. It cost us the AFC championship against Jamarr Chase who burned us over-and-over the same way the Bills did twice today. This is a glitch in the coaching of Spagnolo and makes no sense that he won’t adjust and continues to get beat.

  32. How come there’s so many Bills fans complaining that KC fans are disrespecting them? I have never heard anything other than respect and admiration for Allen and the Bills. Of course when you get into the stadium and the game is on, obviously they are going to fully support their own team. With chants, cheers, jeers. As it should be.

  33. peaktooearly

    Apparently the Bengals peaked too early last season too, when they embarrassed the AFC in the Super Bowl. KC or Buffalo would not have lost to that Rams team, but Bengals gifted them the Lombardi Trophy.

    –_

    Wut? Mahomes lost the game tonight the same way that he lost The Bengals last year, a week after he beat Bills.

  34. Very interesting and entertaining game. Bills won (and covered) as I expected but call me impressed with the Chiefs defense.

    They were starting a bunch of unknown and unproven Day 3 corners and I thought they held up alright. Spagnuolo does a really nice job with that unit. Hopefully their secondary will be a lot healthier when these 2 teams next meet.

  35. Funny watching Chiefs fans grasp at straws. Blaming Mahomes for the pick? That was just a great play by Taron Johnson after solid pressure was applied by Von and the Bills d-line.

    Blaming Steve Spagnuolo for blitzing too much? That’s who he is.

    There’s nothing wrong with this Chiefs team. You just got beat by a slightly better squad.

  36. Chiefs fan here, I was kind of expecting a loss with Buffalo playing so well and KC so up and down recently. I know no Chiefs fans that bash Allen, sure we have some trolls but I think they’re 1B and 1B. Mahomes is probably better on the fly, Allen is a better runner and better deep ball.b I’d take either to build a team. This has to be the championship game. Or it should be the super bowl, just like it wa last year. Good work Buffalo! We got to improve a lot to keep up with you, especially if it’s at your place! Go small markets!

  37. Backyard Patrick – congrats! Great commitment to the run as per usual coaches. Well-deserved loss.

  38. Just as the Jest’s were feeling pretty good about themselves & POOF – reality is their division rolls thru Buffalo!

  39. Correct me if I am wrong….didn’t the Bill’s beat the Chiefs last year during the regular season? Remind me….how did the playoffs go? Great game today …by two very talented teams !

  40. The chiefs got the ball back with 7 minutes left up 3 and you would think they would then be aggressive to try and go put the game away… But NO!! They sent out play calls that would make you think they are up 17 or have this shut down defense where they proceeded to give the ball back with 5 mins left. We see once again Coaching NOT TO WIN cost this team.
    The Chiefs had no business putting Mahomes in the position of 1 minute to try and go get a touchdown to win when all that could have been sorted out in their previous possessions. The chiefs did the same thing last week when the raiders miss the 2 point conversion which left the chiefs up by one point. The chiefs proceeded to go call plays like they were up 10 points and was lucky the raiders receivers ran into each other.

    As long as Andy Reid remains coach with this mentality of COACHING NOT TO LOSE you will see alot more L’s like this. This chiefs team currently doesn’t have an aggressive and the right Coach for this Quarterback.

  41. To the Chiefs fans saying “Buffalo won the reg season last year, how did the playoffs go”?

    Umm you needed a miracle to beat Buffalo at home and then gave up a huge comeback to Cincy in your own house?

  42. Chalk this Bills win to just being a better coached & better disciplined team. Andy Reed had 7 minutes & change with a 3 point lead AND the ball & they go conservative. It wasn’t until the Chiefs were down by 4 with a little over a minute to go & he uncorked a reckless Mahomes to seal the loss.

  43. 2 best qbs in the game and it’s not really close…while mahomes was lights out the minute he started, and Allen struggled, they really are neck and neck.

    Like I said, the 2 best in the league and it’s
    Not close

  44. I keep telling ya…that backyard football sidearm junk from Mahomes will be his undoing.

  45. What a game. No skin in the game for me beyond watching two great QB’s on the field.

    I felt that these were the two best teams in the league going into the game and nothing has changed in my mind after the game. Should be one hell of an AFC title game.

  46. Keep telling us, that sidearm “junk” will be his undoing…. 4 consecutive championship games, winning two of them, going to the SB 2 times in last 4 years, winning one of them…. I’ll trust what he’s proven and accomplished over whatever you’re telling us…

  47. I also have to chuckle …

    Bills scored their final TD with 64 seconds left.
    Mahomes threw the interception with 51 seconds left on the clock…

    13 seconds strikes again…

  48. This is a PSA for those in Chiefs kingdom who refuse to show Josh Allen any respect because if he’s not better than Mahomes he has to be terrible. No fan base in the league has shown more disrespect to Allen than Chiefs nation and even more than the rest of the AFC East combined.

    2017, Mahomes gets drafted as a luxury pick by a great team that is loaded with talent on offense with an all-time offensive genius at HC. His rookie year he sits and learns behind a pro bowl Alex Smith. With Alex Smith at the helm Kelce, Hill and Hunt are already pro bowl talents and KC has a top 12 O-Line.

    2018, his rookie season roster.
    HC: Andy Reid, Top 5 Offensive GOAT
    RB: Kareem Hunt, PB
    WR1: Tyreek Hill, PB
    WR2: Sammy Watkins, former top 5 pick
    WR3: Chris Conley
    TE: Travis Kelce, PB
    LT: Eric Fisher, PB
    LG: Cameron Erving
    C: Mitch Morse, very good
    RG: Andrew Wylie
    RT: Mitchell Schwartz, AP

    Has any QB in NFL history come into a better situation on offense than Mahomes?

    Sitting a full year behind a ridiculously good offense, a top 5 All-Time TE in his prime, pro bowlers at every position and the 2nd best RT-LT duo in the league? The only flaw would be less than elite guards.

    How many 1st round QBs that busted because they went to awful franchises with dysfunction everywhere, no offensive line and bad weapons, thrown in their first game?

    I would argue many of them could have ended up with long pro bowl careers had they gotten what Mahomes got.

    In no way am I discrediting Mahomes as a ridiculous freak all-world talent but Chiefs fans seem to have lost all perspective on his development versus most everyone else’s.

    Josh Allen was a project that couldn’t be started his first year; “it would ruin him” because he had bad mechanics and decision making from being at Juco and Wyoming with no talent and less than average coaching.

    He was thrust into starting immediately due to injuries. His rookie year McBeane were carrying $50 Million in deadcap from clearing bad contracts from the previous regime. $50 million in salary cap less of talent around him.

    2018 Bills Roster:

    RB: Lesean McCoy, 500 yards and past his prime.
    FB: Patrick DiMarco, because we had no O-line and needed an extra blocker every play
    WR: Kelvin Benjamin, 315lbs and stone hands.
    WR: Zay Jones
    TE: Charles Clay, 184 yards and stealing a check.
    LT: Dion Dawkins- Rookie and was okay.
    LG: Vlad Ducasse, turnstile
    C: Russell Bodine, turnstile
    RG: Jordan Miller, turnstile
    RT: Jordan Mills, turnstile

    Just look at the difference; zero weapons, one of the worst O-lines in the league and not a single pro bowler to be seen.
    Josh had to run for his life the second the ball was snapped.

    You swap their draft situations and no way is Mahomes coming out of the gate like he did if he was in Josh’s situation; you better believe Josh would have been absolutely berserk on the Kansas City offense in Mahomes’s shoes.

    Every year passes and Bills fans have to deal with everyone comparing their QBs stats to Josh Allen’s first year and saying how much better their QB was and is going to be.

    No, none of you were watching Bills games in 2018 after 17 years of sucking. Allen was scrambling for dear life, no one could get separation, no one could catch the ball and every pass rush was getting through the line at the snap.

    We are talking 5-6 drops every game and zero clean pockets.

    In Summation, Chiefs nation need to chill out and acknowledge how ridiculously blessed Mahomes was to be drafted into the situation he was. Mahomes might eventually be the player he is today had he gone elsewhere or maybe he might have been ruined. I can think of a list of quarterbacks who busted solely due to the team that drafted them.

    People compare Mahomes and Allen all the time now, what’s the biggest different between the two? Having All-world Travis Kelce at TE.

    Chiefs fans say Kelce is the best pass catching TE in NFL history.

    Then when you bring up how good Mahomes is because of Kelce and all of a sudden Kelce goes from being “the best pass catching TE in NFL history” to “he’s only good because Mahomes is the GOAT”.

    Chiefs nation has become unbearable nation.

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    13 seconds bro, breath.
    We play for championships but good game though.

  49. BB is the greatest of all time for a REASON.

    Wait until he gets his hands on a game plan for Allen.

    You’ll see…

  50. The Bills adding Von Miller and KC losing Tyreek Hill has shifted the talent slightly to Buffalo. Still, you have the best two QB’s on the planet out there…it is like the game is never out of reach for either team.

  51. pittsburghdamned says:
    October 16, 2022 at 10:17 pm
    It helps that Allen doesn’t throw sidearm junk like a HS quarterback.

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    Has Allen won a super bowl, MVP, or come from behind wins? Talk to me when he does…

  52. As a Jets fan I have to say the best thing about Allen and Mahomes is that we get to see 2 truly likable guys duel it out for the next 10 or so years on the field while making two storied old AFL franchises relevant again.

    Unlike watching a couple of truly unlikable guys who gloat when they win and whine when they lose say for the past 15 or so years……..

  53. slick says:
    October 16, 2022 at 8:00 pm

    This game proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Allen > Mahomes.
    ___________________

    Ok and what do you get for that? MVP trophy, fine. How about Bills better than Chiefs? Too much made of these individual QBs. Team sport at the end of the day and what the other players and coaches do does matter.

  54. Josh Allen is the best QB in the world. To say otherwise is only kidding yourself. Everyone knows it. Some just don’t want to admit it.

  55. The Bills has a stout OLine on top of Allen grown into a decent QB. That’s a winning combo.

  56. MortimerInMiami says:
    October 16, 2022 at 7:55 pm
    Chiefs are still the better team and will dispose of Buffalo in the post season, we all know it’s coming!

    36333Rate This

    Mort. Maybe you should focus on your horrible 3-3 Fins team.

  57. pittsburghdamned says:
    October 16, 2022 at 10:17 pm
    It helps that Allen doesn’t throw sidearm junk like a HS quarterback

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    Then why had he never even made it to an AFCCG?

  58. Andy Reid made a critical error that cost the Cheifs. Calling a timeout before the completion out of the endzone that ended in a TD for Buffalo.

  59. tj12205 says:
    October 16, 2022 at 8:49 pm
    Correct me if I am wrong….didn’t the Bill’s beat the Chiefs last year during the regular season? Remind me….how did the playoffs go? Great game today …by two very talented teams !

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    Stop living in the past. New year, new season. And IF they meet again in the playoffs, it will be here in Buffalo. It’s not the same.

  60. Tony Romo ~ “Only a couple of guys can make that throw, and they’re both on this field today.”

  61. Not sure what all the hate is about. It was a great game and will continue to be for the next decade.

  62. If the Bills don’t lose to a bottom feeder team like they did last year in the Jaguars then The #1 seed will be theirs just like it would have been last year.

  63. I’m a die hard Bills Fan and love Josh Allen for the player he is and the person he is. But I can’t understand why we have to declare who is the better quarterback, Allen or Mahommes. Let’s just watch 2 elite quarterbacks in their primes play great football.

  64. I think at one point in the game (near the end), Allen and Mahomes had nearly identical stats – same # of completions, attempts and the yardage was within 20.

    I don’t really plan to get too involved w/ a “who is better” debate while they’re at center stage for the next decade or so. They’re both amazing to watch. I think given a choice, Bills fans would take Allen all day, every day, and KC would do the same for Mahomes.

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